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tajrish

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I have lived in both the US and in Europe for many years. In my opinion, US is a good place to build a career and to live when you are younger and still single or having no children. As one grows older, other priorities become more important, such as security, health insurance, kids, peace of mind, retirement and so on.
I am at a stage in my life where I am contemplating a move back to Europe. The rat race here in US gets kind of old after a while. Europeans know how to enjoy life. Americans know how to enjoy things. That to me is one of the main differences between them.
I can highly recommend everyone to watch the new documentary by Michael Moore (You can watch it for free, if you have Amazon Prime). It is called "Where to invade next.". Pretty much talking about the most positive aspects of life in Europe and why America is so far behind on basic stuff such as dealing with drug abuse, free education, health care, prison systems, minimum wages and so on.
Obviously, this is just my personal observations. Ultimately, it comes down to how you define "quality" in life.
 
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Obama was a populist, who won on a liberal populist ticket: helping the minorities, blacks, under privileged etc. He made lost of promises he could not keep.

His legacy will be the ISIS and Syria and of course the rise of Trump.
Monsieur Brexit fan,

I have never heard anyone refer to Obama as a populist, particularly when juxtaposed against "leader of the populist revolution" Trump!

I thought the criticism of Obama was that he is an elitist?
 

TeamMeli

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I have lived in both the US and in Europe for many years. In my opinion, US is a good place to build a career and to live when you are younger and still single or having no children. As one grows older, other priorities become more important, such as security, health insurance, kids, peace of mind, retirement and so on.
I am at a stage in my life where I am contemplating a move back to Europe. The rat race here in US gets kind of old after a while. Europeans know how to enjoy life. Americans know how to enjoy things. That to me is one of the main differences between them.
I can highly recommend everyone to watch the new documentary by Michael Moore (You can watch it for free, if you have Amazon Prime). It is called "Where to invade next.". Pretty much talking about the most positive aspects of life in Europe and why America is so far behind on basic stuff such as dealing with drug abuse, free education, health care, prison systems, minimum wages and so on.
Obviously, this is just my personal observations. Ultimately, it comes down to how you define "quality" in life.
Although I have not lived in France, I visited several times and I agree 100%. The USA is a great place to get your start, go to a good university and begin your career. However, US is not the best country in the world for retirement because there are no Social programs, like they have in Europe. When you retire, your SS is usually 10% of your salary so if you made $200,000 a year, you are going to live off of $2,000. In Europe I know it is much better. As you get older, your priorities shift and change, that is when your view of the US will change as well. I think the USA is a great place to live but this country is NOT FOR EVERYONE.
 

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social liberalism is not socialism. social liberalism is liberal laws in society not socialism. like..

nevermind




don't need the eden that is Australia
@Mahdi I KNOW that Social Liberalism and Socialism are not the same, I was just trying to make a point. You do not have to cut me short and never mind me, we can have an intellectual discussion on the topic. BTW Nevermind is an album by Nirvana, never mind means do not bother me.
I The main difference between the two is socialism is political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole." It's related to, but not synonymous with, "communism".Social liberalism is a political ideology generally associated with the center-left, in keeping with the predominantly European usage of the term. The term 'social liberal' is also commonly used in North American contexts to describe those favorable to the preservation or furthering of human rights, social rights, civil rights and civil liberties, in contrast to 'social conservative'.
 
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I have lived in both the US and in Europe for many years. In my opinion, US is a good place to build a career and to live when you are younger and still single or having no children. As one grows older, other priorities become more important, such as security, health insurance, kids, peace of mind, retirement and so on.
I am at a stage in my life where I am contemplating a move back to Europe. The rat race here in US gets kind of old after a while. Europeans know how to enjoy life. Americans know how to enjoy things. That to me is one of the main differences between them.
I can highly recommend everyone to watch the new documentary by Michael Moore (You can watch it for free, if you have Amazon Prime). It is called "Where to invade next.". Pretty much talking about the most positive aspects of life in Europe and why America is so far behind on basic stuff such as dealing with drug abuse, free education, health care, prison systems, minimum wages and so on.
Obviously, this is just my personal observations. Ultimately, it comes down to how you define "quality" in life.
... or you just cut your losses and live in Canada which is kinda in between.

i have lived on both sides of the atlantic and i would say that i would never live anywhere in US or in Europe. If i absolutely have to i would live in rural northern california in the US or if i have to live in Europe i would live in a Village in Sweden.

other than that once you get used to the Zeitgeist in Canada it is hard to live anywhere else.

having babbled all of that, it all depends what you want out of life. If you are a typical hasood, competitive, 'no one is better than me' kind of Iranian then US And London is definitely the city for you.

If you are a couch potato or one of those who lose their balls as soon as there is a health issue or death in the family again Europe is good for you because you can hide in your obscure corner and not be bothered by anyone.

if you are a person like me and a few others from my time that i know which left IR because they 'couldn't' live there then you learn that you will 'never' have your own country anymore and so you make the best of 'wherever' you are.

as long as you understand that nothing is 'owed' to you in life and you have to get it (if you want it). and also while you are getting it try to pull up people who are 'below' you and encourage people who are 'above' you to do the same thing.
 

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... or you just cut your losses and live in Canada which is kinda in between.

i have lived on both sides of the atlantic and i would say that i would never live anywhere in US or in Europe. If i absolutely have to i would live in rural northern california in the US or if i have to live in Europe i would live in a Village in Sweden.

other than that once you get used to the Zeitgeist in Canada it is hard to live anywhere else.

having babbled all of that, it all depends what you want out of life. If you are a typical hasood, competitive, 'no one is better than me' kind of Iranian then US And London is definitely the city for you.

If you are a couch potato or one of those who lose their balls as soon as there is a health issue or death in the family again Europe is good for you because you can hide in your obscure corner and not be bothered by anyone.

if you are a person like me and a few others from my time that i know which left IR because they 'couldn't' live there then you learn that you will 'never' have your own country anymore and so you make the best of 'wherever' you are.

as long as you understand that nothing is 'owed' to you in life and you have to get it (if you want it). and also while you are getting it try to pull up people who are 'below' you and encourage people who are 'above' you to do the same thing.
@Keyvan jan I worked in Calgary for six months and happen to agree with you about what you said, in regards to Canada. It is somewhere in between the USA and Europe. However, I would say Canada is politically and socially much closer to Europe(Hell in Quebec they speak French Canadian) than the USA. Your analogy of USA/London and Canada is spot on, we can now throw Germany in as another Canada. If you want to be a multi millionaire and crush it in the business world, if you have a killer mentality then go to USA or London. If you are more of a pacifistic or have a couch potato mentality, then go to Canada or Germany because you can always depend on social programs. Furthermore, I believe where you grow up shapes your political ideology and your mentality. Since I was born and raised in the USA, that American spirit is apart of me. BTW I must say if I had to pick ANY other country to live, it would be Canada for several reasons. Oh and by the way your nothing is owed to you in life is very much American/English thinking or mentality. Asking for handouts is European or I am sorry to say this but the black mans mentality. Now there are exceptions to the rule but the exception proves that the rule exists.
1-I do not mind the cold as much as others
2-The people are wonderful, very nice. I did not bump into one CANADIAN asshole and even your foreigners are nicer than ours.
3-There is ALWAYS work in Canada. Canada is the one country that when I lived there, there was always work for me.
4-I like Ice Hockey and Maple syrup.....A!
 

tajrish

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... or you just cut your losses and live in Canada which is kinda in between.

i have lived on both sides of the atlantic and i would say that i would never live anywhere in US or in Europe. If i absolutely have to i would live in rural northern california in the US or if i have to live in Europe i would live in a Village in Sweden.

other than that once you get used to the Zeitgeist in Canada it is hard to live anywhere else.

having babbled all of that, it all depends what you want out of life. If you are a typical hasood, competitive, 'no one is better than me' kind of Iranian then US And London is definitely the city for you.

If you are a couch potato or one of those who lose their balls as soon as there is a health issue or death in the family again Europe is good for you because you can hide in your obscure corner and not be bothered by anyone.

if you are a person like me and a few others from my time that i know which left IR because they 'couldn't' live there then you learn that you will 'never' have your own country anymore and so you make the best of 'wherever' you are.

as long as you understand that nothing is 'owed' to you in life and you have to get it (if you want it). and also while you are getting it try to pull up people who are 'below' you and encourage people who are 'above' you to do the same thing.
I would live in Canada it it weren't so damn cold. After living in S.Cal. your bones get warm and there is no way you can migrate to a climate such as Canada. Australia is a great option as well, but it is so far from everything and everyone that any travel outside the continent requires 5 years of advanced planning.
 

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I would live in Canada it it weren't so damn cold. After living in S.Cal. your bones get warm and there is no way you can migrate to a climate such as Canada. Australia is a great option as well, but it is so far from everything and everyone that any travel outside the continent requires 5 years of advanced planning.
Not only it is far from everywhere, Australia is also very warm. I understand how you feel about So Cal and when I retire, I will get a nice place there. For now I am fine in LV but I have been in some of the coldest, hottest and most humid places in the world. The one that I really cannot tolerate is humid. I do not mind the cold but what I mind is the taxes in California and Canada. For now it is good to save up and not pay much in state taxes. Later on I would not mind paying a bit more. For me, I still want to stay within driving distance to So Cal, four hour drive, with no traffic to see my friends in LA. If i want to visit family in SD, 5 hrs. I picked LV because I am going to have something secure and long term hopefully set up in a year and I will pay next to nothing in taxes. Once I do my full twenty years and get my pension, THEN I can head back to So Cal, in my mid 50s.
 
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Trudeau just wrote this on his fb page:

Senior officials have been working to seek clarity for Canadians from the US Department of Homeland Security and ‎US Department of Transportation, amongst other counterparts. I instructed our National Security Advisor, Daniel Jean, who was in touch over the course of the day with NSA Flynn to seek further clarification.
NSA Flynn confirmed that holders of Canadian passports, including dual citizens, will not be affected by the ban.
We have been assured that Canadian citizens travelling on Canadian passport will be dealt with ‎in the usual process.
As we receive new information, we will continue to share on this and other channels.
i think mr. trudeau does not understand the previous sanctions on iran that were imposed and
were not totally enforced by the obama regime.but trump's regime is making a point of enforcing
them in full.if you used your canadian passport to travel to iran you will be subject to questioning
at the minimum.

Former Norway PM held at Washington airport over 2014 visit to Iran

A former prime minister of Norway has spoken of his shock after he was held and questioned at Washington Dulles airport because of a visit to Iran three years ago.

Kjell Magne Bondevik, who served as prime minister of Norway from 1997-2000 and 2001-05, flew into the US from Europe on Tuesday afternoon to attend this week’s National Prayer Breakfast.

He was held for an hour after customs agents saw in his diplomatic passport that he had been to Iran in 2014. Bondevik said his passport also clearly indicated that he was the former PM of Norway.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...eld-washington-dulles-airport-2014-visit-iran
 
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@Keyvan jan I worked in Calgary for six months and happen to agree with you about what you said, in regards to Canada. It is somewhere in between the USA and Europe. However, I would say Canada is politically and socially much closer to Europe(Hell in Quebec they speak French Canadian) than the USA. Your analogy of USA/London and Canada is spot on, we can now throw Germany in as another Canada. If you want to be a multi millionaire and crush it in the business world, if you have a killer mentality then go to USA or London. If you are more of a pacifistic or have a couch potato mentality, then go to Canada or Germany because you can always depend on social programs. Furthermore, I believe where you grow up shapes your political ideology and your mentality. Since I was born and raised in the USA, that American spirit is apart of me. BTW I must say if I had to pick ANY other country to live, it would be Canada for several reasons. Oh and by the way your nothing is owed to you in life is very much American/English thinking or mentality. Asking for handouts is European or I am sorry to say this but the black mans mentality. Now there are exceptions to the rule but the exception proves that the rule exists.
1-I do not mind the cold as much as others
2-The people are wonderful, very nice. I did not bump into one CANADIAN asshole and even your foreigners are nicer than ours.
3-There is ALWAYS work in Canada. Canada is the one country that when I lived there, there was always work for me.
4-I like Ice Hockey and Maple syrup.....A!
the government here fluctuates between mild conservatism to left socialism. Traditionally the pacific side of the country and the prairie provinces above montana and dakota are more conservative than the maritimes and quebec.

about the weather, british columbia is not that cold. it does sometimes snow there but summertime temperatures soar up 30. in montreal where i live temperatures up to 44 degrees in the summer but the humidity kills. it is the country of extreme climate and that is for sure.

however, after living in IR, England and california it seems like it is the place where you can most live a semi mentally healthy life and not get cancer of stress at the age of 45 or a stroke at the age of 30 or don't become 300 lbs overweight because all you eat is double portioned.

the bad points (for some people), you cannot become a millionaire without stealing money because of high taxes and small population. Doctors don't get 3 million dollars as they do in the US or IR. The oil boom in alberta seems to be over so we are expecting harsh economic times. There is discrimination in English Canada against the French because every 20 something years they referendum to break up the confederation. so there is some political uncertainty if you live in Quebec.


I cannot imagine even 1% percent of the Americans i met in california would be able to live in Canada. It is just not 'quick' enough for them. Americans tend to want everything 'quickly' and 'now'. life doesn't work like that in real.

on the other side of the coin i met many IR people here that keep nagging and complaining about how shitty things are and it must be heaven in california.
i keep telling them fuck off back to wherever you came from so i don't have to pay for your fucking free medicare when you are old and dying. no one fucking requested you to move to canada. they all came here to get money from the government and freeload. fine. then stop bitching and shut the hell up
 

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Here is for people who have wrong perceptions about Sweden:

Facts about migration and crime in Sweden


Claim: "Sweden had its first islamic terrorist attack not so long ago"


Facts: The only known attempt at such an attack was in 2010. No one was harmed but the attacker.

Claim: "There has been a major increase in gun violence in Sweden."

Facts: In general terms, violence has decreased in Sweden in the last 20 years. At the same time, surveys repeatedly show that people in Sweden and in other Western countries have a perception that violence is actually increasing. Perceptions of increased violence have been linked to the number of immigrants in Sweden. Nonetheless, research shows that there is no evidence to indicate that immigration leads to increased crime. Despite the fact that the number of immigrants in Sweden has increased since the 1990s, exposure to violent crimes has declined.

Data from the Swedish Crime Survey shows that in terms of lethal violence, there has generally been a downward trend over the past 25 years. Nonetheless, the level in 2015 – when a total of 112 cases of lethal violence were reported – was higher than for many years.

Studies conducted by the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention show that lethal violence using firearms has increased within the context of criminal conflicts. The number of confirmed or suspected shootings was 20 per cent higher in 2014 than in 2006. The statistics also show that 17 people were killed with firearms in 2011, while the corresponding figure in 2015 was 33.

Figures from the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) show that in 2012, 0.7 murders were committed in Sweden per 100 000 inhabitants.


Source: https://www.unodc.org/gsh/en/data.html

Claim: "There has been a major increase in the number of rapes in Sweden."

Facts: The number of reported rapes in Sweden has risen. But the definition of rape has broadened over time, which makes it difficult to compare the figures. It is also misleading to compare the figures with other countries, as many acts that are considered rape under Swedish law are not considered rape in many other countries.

For example: If a woman in Sweden reports that she has been raped by her husband every night for a year, that is counted as 365 separate offences; in most other countries this would be registered as a single offence, or would not be registered as an offence at all.

Willingness to report such offences also differs dramatically between countries. A culture in which these crimes are talked about openly, and victims are not blamed, will also have more cases reported. Sweden has made a conscious effort to encourage women to report any offence.

Read more about the legal implications of the term 'rape' (in Swedish):


http://www.notisum.se/rnp/sls/lag/19620700.htm#K6

https://www.bra.se/download/18.3717...1_Nationella_trygghetsundersokningen_2016.pdf

Claim: "Refugees are behind the increase in crime, but the authorities are covering it up."

Facts: According to the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention's Swedish Crime Survey, some 13 per cent of the population were the victim of an offence against them personally in 2015. This is an increase on preceding years, although it is roughly the same level as in 2005.

The Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention has conducted two studies into the representation of people from foreign backgrounds among crime suspects, the most recent in 2005. The studies show that the majority of those suspected of crimes were born in Sweden to two Swedish-born parents. The studies also show that the vast majority of people from foreign backgrounds are not suspected of any crimes.

People from foreign backgrounds are suspected of crimes more often than people from a Swedish background. According to the most recent study, people from foreign backgrounds are 2.5 times more likely to be suspected of crimes than people born in Sweden to Swedish-born parents. In a later study, researchers at Stockholm University showed that the main difference in terms of criminal activity between immigrants and others in the population was due to differences in the socioeconomic conditions in which they grew up in Sweden. This means factors such as parents' incomes, and the social circumstances in the area in which an individual grew up.

Swedish government agencies have nothing to gain from covering up statistics and facts; they seek an open and fact-based dialogue. Sweden is an open society governed by a principle of public access to official documents. This means that members of the public, e.g. private individuals and media representatives, have the right to insight into and access to information about the activities of central and local government.


Claim: "In Sweden there are a number of 'no-go zones' where criminality and gangs have taken over and where the emergency services do not dare to go."

Facts: No. In a report published in February 2016, the Swedish Police Authority identified 53 residential areas around the country that have become increasingly marred by crime, social unrest and insecurity. These places have been incorrectly labelled 'no-go zones'. What is true, however, is that in several of these areas the police have experienced difficulties fulfilling their duties; but it is not the case that the police do not go to them or that Swedish law does not apply there.

The causes of the problems in these areas are complex and multifaceted. To reverse the trend, more initiatives are required from all of society, at all levels.


https://polisen.se/Global/www och I...A5ga och o%C3%B6nskade h%C3%A4ndelser (2).pdf (In Swedish)

Claim: "The high level of immigration means that the system in Sweden is on the verge of collapse."

Facts: No. The Swedish economy is strong. Despite the high costs of immigration, Sweden recorded a public finance surplus in 2015, and the forecasts indicate that the surplus is set to grow until 2020.

Moreover, Sweden has had one of the highest rates of growth in Europe over the last two years. Youth unemployment has declined considerably and is now at its lowest level for 13 years, and long-term unemployment (12 months or longer) is the lowest in the EU.

In addition, the World Economic Forum has identified Sweden as being among the top countries in many international rankings.

Source: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017...ost-other-countries-at-just-about-everything/

A large number of people have sought protection in Sweden. In 2015, almost 163 000 people sought asylum here. The measures subsequently taken by the Government, including temporary ID checks and border controls, and the new temporary asylum legislation, have led to fewer people now seeking asylum in Sweden.

Read more: https://www.migrationsverket.se/English/About-the-Migration-Agency/New-laws-in-2016.html

Sweden needs immigration to compensate for the decline in numbers of babies being born here.

Read more: https://sweden.se/migration/

Claim: "Muslims will soon be in the majority in Sweden."

Facts: No. It is estimated that there are a few hundred thousand people in Sweden whose roots are in predominantly Muslim countries. But this figure says nothing about how many are religious or not.

The Muslim faith communities have approximately 140 000 members. This is about 1.5 per cent of Sweden's population. The largest faith communities are the Church of Sweden, the Pentecostal Movement and the Roman Catholic Church. Of Sweden's ten million inhabitants, 6.2 million are members of the Church of Sweden.

Prejudices and negative attitudes towards Muslims exist in many areas of society. A report published by the Equality Ombudsman in 2015 shows that Islamophobia is manifested in threats, violence, verbal abuse, media attacks, harassment in schools, unfavourable opportunities for finding a job, and in other ways.


Source: http://www.government.se/articles/2017/02/facts-about-migration-and-crime-in-sweden/
 

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First of all, you bloody AKHOOND AGENT in this site " pesar baaz " go and fuck yourself .

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