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TeamMeli

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@Pooya I would rather install a true democracy. Forget about Socialism, Iranians won't receive that message well, even if it is democratic socialism. They are not ready for that but they are ready for a true democracy.
 

rahim

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Behrooz said :

“Money will poor in so you can steal it and spend it in Lebanon and Syria. Congratulations :)

Watch out buddy and stay in your lane.
No need to make it personal and resort to accusations and insults.
Yes , calling me a pro IRI person is as big of insult that one can deliver.
Equating being anti trump with pro IRI, only is production of a naive mind. I have explained in the past that perspectives of Iranians living and raising children in US may be different from those living abroad and only focusing on Iran ( on the surface).
I do appreciate your anti IRI sentiments and I also recognize that phenomenon should not be viewed as black and white .
I don’t know how old you are, but chances are that I was an anti IRI person when you were a juvenile. Just saying.....
 
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TeamMeli

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Well I never called you a Pro IR and i don't debate taht way I think that is low class- You got to maek sure someone is IR for SURE
that would be a fight if someone called me Pro IR. Rahim i am with you on that man, we don't see eye to eye on a lot of issues
but ill back you on that.
 
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Behrooz_C

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Behrooz said :

“Money will poor in so you can steal it and spend it in Lebanon and Syria. Congratulations :)

Watch out buddy and stay in your lane.
No need to make it personal and resort to accusations and insults.
Yes , calling me a pro IRI person is as big of insult that one can deliver.
Equating being anti trump with pro IRI, only is production of a naive mind. I have explained in the past that perspectives of Iranians living and raising children in US may be different from those living abroad and only focusing on Iran ( on the surface).
I do appreciate your anti IRI sentiments and I also recognize that phenomenon should not be viewed as black and white .
I don’t know how old you are, but chances are that I was an anti IRI person when you were a juvenile. Just saying.....
My post was not directed at you or any specific individual here. I know you are not an IR supporter. Apart from one or maybe two people, no one is an IR supporter here.

My point was to stand on its own. There is no doubt that opening the flow of cash to IR will please those in charge and will make no difference to the lives of Iranian people. I just hope Biden doesn't go down that rout.
 

Zob Ahan

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The show is over.

A breezing moment of relief for world.
This excitement on this board about this new administration reminds me of an old aunt I had (khoda rahmatesh koneh). One of the girls of the family was getting married and she kept bragging about the groom to be and their family. Ameh joon had enough and with her heavy Isfahani accent said "اینقدر نمی خواد چسشون بدی پس فردا دهنت میگوزدا."
And sure enough the same happened.
 

ChaharMahal

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This excitement on this board about this new administration reminds me of an old aunt I had (khoda rahmatesh koneh). One of the girls of the family was getting married and she kept bragging about the groom to be and their family. Ameh joon had enough and with her heavy Isfahani accent said "اینقدر نمی خواد چسشون بدی پس فردا دهنت میگوزدا."
And sure enough the same happened.
Nobody on this board has any illusions about Biden. virtually everyone knows at best he will be mediocre.

But it is kind of rich for a Trump partisan to be preaching others on not to ass-kiss a politician.
 

Sly

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And for IR and its supporters. Money will poor in so you can steal it and spend it in Lebanon and Syria. Congratulations :)
As if things looked so rosy under Trump. The country was/is being sold to China. Behrooz_C jan, I am really not saying this in a bad way and hopefully you wont take it in a bad way either because it's not but you really need to wake up from that dream of yours. The reality is not what you hope to be.
 

Sly

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@Sly Question: Would you rather keep the things since you see improvement, or throw Akhoonds out of power and install a true democracy?
I would rather see a true democracy in Iran but not by throwing akhunds out (as much as I like to) and install it with force. Anything done with force will only backfire and that has been proven over and over again in our history. Things need to be changed step by step from within and slowly, without outside interference. Yes it will take time but in a long run it will make things better permanently so be it.
 

Behrooz_C

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As if things looked so rosy under Trump. The country was/is being sold to China. Behrooz_C jan, I am really not saying this in a bad way and hopefully you wont take it in a bad way either because it's not but you really need to wake up from that dream of yours. The reality is not what you hope to be.
The fact that the country is being sold to China is not because of Trump. He is not the one who did it. My dream is not different to yours. The difference is that I have woken up and understood what this regime is all about. You still haven't. You think appeasing them will work in the long run. I believe appeasing this regime will do more harm in the long run and the short run.
 

rahim

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My concern about Biden is when do the hawks aligned with him are going to start asking for pay back!

The immediate affect of Biden’s victory has been popping some bubbles:
Dollar is at around 22k, and even no one is buying
Car prices are sky diving , two weeks ago pride was at 130 million now at 100 million and no buyers
Mobile telephone prices down by 20 percent compared to a week ago

But my main concern is medical supplies.
Particularly for cancer patients.
Since “ maximum pressure” , doses of chemo application drugs, have jumped up from Average of around a million to upwards 3.5 million

Hopefully we will see some relief for people that have been caught between two anti humanity forces, trump and IRI
 

ChaharMahal

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My concern about Biden is when do the hawks aligned with him are going to start asking for pay back!

The immediate affect of Biden’s victory has been popping some bubbles:
Dollar is at around 22k, and even no one is buying
Car prices are sky diving , two weeks ago pride was at 130 million now at 100 million and no buyers
Mobile telephone prices down by 20 percent compared to a week ago

But my main concern is medical supplies.
Particularly for cancer patients.
Since “ maximum pressure” , doses of chemo application drugs, have jumped up from Average of around a million to upwards 3.5 million

Hopefully we will see some relief for people that have been caught between two anti humanity forces, trump and IRI
The senate is owned by Republicans. (99% chance). Biden will probably not get the Secretary of state he wants and that person probably wont get confirmed until end of January (if that).

Biden is surrounded by ex-republicans, he will be quite tough on iran. dollar will shoot back up in iran. when people realize the reality and when people realize Khamenie is not interested in a $hitty deal like last time around.
 

Behrooz_C

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My concern about Biden is when do the hawks aligned with him are going to start asking for pay back!

The immediate affect of Biden’s victory has been popping some bubbles:
Dollar is at around 22k, and even no one is buying
Car prices are sky diving , two weeks ago pride was at 130 million now at 100 million and no buyers
Mobile telephone prices down by 20 percent compared to a week ago

But my main concern is medical supplies.
Particularly for cancer patients.
Since “ maximum pressure” , doses of chemo application drugs, have jumped up from Average of around a million to upwards 3.5 million

Hopefully we will see some relief for people that have been caught between two anti humanity forces, trump and IRI
I think what is most interesting aside from all this, is that despite all their propaganda IR is so dependent on the US. No other country in the world has an economy so dependent on what happens in America. Shah was not the US stooge that IR wants us to believe. It's the current regime that has enslaved itself (perhaps inadvertently) to the events in America.

So much for IR independence.
 

rahim

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4mahal:
Agree with most of what you said.
Trump was a different Nut case. Most Incoming presidents do not radically change the existing foreign policy Quickly.
Trump’s foreign policy maneuvering was Like steering a speed boat as it is done in the third word countries, most incoming presidents realize that they are in charge of steering A cargo ship. Very slow and gradual variance from the course.
In political observation sense, the Lincoln project people and ex republicans in Biden’s coalition, are going to seek his help in taking control of their party back from trumpets. It will be amusing to watch how that shapes out against trumpets and his gang of neo fascists , evangelicals and extreme right White supremacists.
 
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Sly

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The fact that the country is being sold to China is not because of Trump. He is not the one who did it. My dream is not different to yours. The difference is that I have woken up and understood what this regime is all about. You still haven't. You think appeasing them will work in the long run. I believe appeasing this regime will do more harm in the long run and the short run.
Well you said now under Biden the IRI will send money to Syria and Lebanon and I was only implying that under Trump nothing was better either. The only difference is, at least the pressure on the people will be a bit less under Biden.
 

ChaharMahal

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I think he wants it back actually. Eagerly too. but he can not show it in public.
He cannot get it back! Iran's obligations were all front-loaded. Many any of them irreversible.

Biden and EU will be intersted to give iran something to lessen the chance of war, but over all it a much shittier deal than they had in 2015
 
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