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    Ancient Aliens

    Has any one watched this TV series? I would enjoy reading about your opinion. Here is the link to one episode.
    The amount of evidence presented in the show is just overwhelming. One day we will know the truth behind the whole creation, God(s), etc.
    Here is the link to one episode:
    http://www.history.com/shows/ancient...tuals-archived

    Link to the show's home page: http://www.history.com/shows/ancient-aliens

    Thanks for your time.

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    دوست عزیز
    من نتوانستم این ویدئو را ببینم ولی بسیاری در این مورد دیده ام و خوانده ام
    دلایلی که وجود دارد کافی نیست
    وجود چند شکل پا پرنده ای چوبی به شکل گلایدر نمی تواند دلیل بر ان باشد که موجوداتی که ملیونها سال نوری از ما دور هستند ما را ملاقات کرده اند
    شکل ها یا داستانهایی مانند ویمانا هندی و تخت پرنده کیکاوس یا عباس ابن فرناس و قالیچه حضرت سلیمان به نظر من تنها و تنها خواست و تفکر انسان در مورد پرواز و فکر کردن در مورد ان بوده نه دیدن و لمس کردن واقعی انها
    زیرا اگر اینطور بود حداقل تاریخی مکتوب در این مورد داشتیم
    اگر موجوداتی از ملیاردها کیلومتر انطرف تر به زمین سفر کرده بودند دلایلی محکمتر و بیشتری از چند تا پرنده فلزی ودر این جا وانجا و داستانهای پرواز افسانه ای که ارزوی انسان از بدو تاریخ دور بوده است بر جای می گذاشتند
    البته من کاملا این موضوع یعنی امکان اینکه موجودات کرات دیگر ما را زیارت کرده باشند را رد نمیکنم ولی دلایل بسیار ناچیز و قابل رد است
    اگر موجوداتی قادر به زیارت ما بوده باشند منطقی است که رفت امد انها در طی تاریخ در اماکن مختلف بیشتر و بیشتر شده باشد
    ولی می بینیم که اینطور نیست
    پرواز از زمانی انسان نخستین که پرندگان را می دیده تا زمان لئوناردو داوینچی و بعد برادران رایت ارزوی دیرینه انسان بوده
    اشکالی که داوینچی در رسوماتش توضیح داده را نمی توان گفت که از موجودات سیارات دیگر اموخته
    این انسان بوده که پرندگان را می دیده و فکر می کرده که چطور ممکن است پرواز کند
    در این مورد افسانه هایی می ساخته شاید اشکالی می ساخته
    ولی اینکه موجوداتی امده باشند و تنها ارمغانشان چند شکل اینجا و انجا باشد برای بنده دلیل محکمی نیست
    ما می توانیم در مورد هر چیزی به گونه ای که دوست داریم فکر کنیم
    کلود ویلهورن در این مورد زیاد نوشته و ایین جدیدش بنا بر این افسانه ها و تخیلات بوجود امده
    حتی خود شما می توانید در مورد اشیا گونانگون پیرامون خود افسانه هایی بسازید که ممکن است نزدیک به منطق باشد
    ولی به نظر من اگر موجوداتی از سیارات دیگر می توانستند به زمین بیایند و امده اند و تنها در یک نقاشی در قرن دوازده میلادی و یک مقبره در مصر و یک افسانه در هند و ایران و مکزیک جای گرفته اند
    به نظر می رسد این دیدار پوچ و بی معنی بوده انهم برای موجودات پیشرفته ای که قادر به سفر از این کهکشان به ان کهکشان هستند
    وقت خودشان را تلف کرده اند که بیایند و مثلا در مصر یک پرنده چونی که شباهت به گلایدر دارد بسازند یا افسانه ای در هند ؟

    متشکرم

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    Yes I have watched many of the series. but they are lying about some things and as usual want to hide the truth and the facts and force you to believe in some BS that it their fantasies.
    They are not gods or creators, (dont they ever ask where the aliens came from then?) I Mean they couldn't have created themselves you know.

    In any case I am familiar with one type of Aliens who come from Zeta Reticuli which is about 40 light years away from the earth and is a binary system (they have 2 suns).
    I know the case of the Hills was true and they did get abducted and tested on by the Aliens in New Hampshire back in 1961.

    I am not so sure about the case of Billy Meyers (or whatever his real name is, in Switzerland), the blue eyed and blond aliens from some place which starts with P I think (pelaidens??)lol....etc. I think the gy is a nut and a hoaxer, many of his pictures of the UFOs turn out to be cake pan and other stuff.

    but barney and betty hill did get abducted and the book "interrupted journey" is a very good and true book about their adventure.
    I have heard the actual tapes of the psychologist (dr. Benjamin Simon) and their hypnosis sessions and it is true they said things which did not exist at the time and even the star system zeta reticuli was not even discovered then and was not even visible anywhere in north america.
    the government has put a super top secret mark on the issue and has managed to brainwash the ppl into ridiculing anyone who even speaks about the subject but these brainwashed ppl can go watch The Project Disclosure which was a news conference conducted in Washington DC and many top news agencies were there to ask questions etc, like Reuters or UPI etc. (if that makes them feel good, but personally I dont give a damn about those lying buzzards like CNN etc.)

    I have spent many years researching this topic (not the alien gods as they say) but the UFO phenomenon and have found a lot of truth mixed in with a lot of lies so to discredit the whole issue.
    It is very hard to obtain any truth when you have the bloody government involved.
    I also know it is true many of our inventions came from the crash UFOs and scientists worked on them trying to back-engineer the aliens technology which is said to be maybe 1 million years ahead of us!
    Another person which I trust in saying the truth is Bob Lazar whom I have talked to via email and know he is all right despite the fact that the media makes him look as if he is a liar. he is Not.
    Bob worked on UFOs for about 6 months when he was so excited and angry about the fact that this is the most amazing thing happened in all of humanity's history yet been kept quite and so he blew the whistle and almost got killed for it.

    Anyway these aliens have been coming to earth for a long time and the proof is everywhere if ppl looked.
    I know that we humans are more blessed than any other beings in fact the aliens also worship the same God and follow the same prophets, in fact they would come and talk to our Imams and Prophet and ask questions and seek guidance from them. Our 6th Imam (Saadegh A.S) has talked about them and amazing thing is that He said that these beings from other worlds are from Bargh (electricity) and their clothes is made from lightening/bargh/electricity.
    these stupid goofy ppl can laugh all they want but I read this in the ancient books. And according to Bob Lazar the Ship runs on a very high voltage electricity which makes a small hissing noise at first but then become quite with no noise at all.
    This has inspired many physicist like this canadian (homemade) guy John Hutchinson (to use high voltage to do weird things like lifting heavy objects etc.)
    Remember:
    Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence!

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    General jaan salaam;
    sorry i didnt see your post.
    for a long time I didnt believe in them either then I thought may be these are the humans who in many 1000s of years in future they have learned how to travel in time so they come back and visit us, but then that idea went away because there are many types of aliens like the ones who look similar to us and the ones who are called reptilians who are like khazandeh ha (soosmar, etc.) but have a different skin etc, etc, and look very scary to ppl .

    There are a lot of evidence here and there but you cannot find 1 single place to trust cuz they try to hide this whole issue from ppl.
    This girl who was abducted a long ago (in the 1980's) said that she saw here laying on the table and these creatures were sticking long needles in her body ad taking hair and skin samples off her but she said she saw this huge color TV which was as thin as paper above her head....etc..

    This was on Unsolved Mysteries on the TV back in the 80's and I uploaded the tape on google videos back then. but this girl could not have even imagined that 1 day we will have thin Television sets. Not as thin as paper yet but we are getting there...
    how could see have made it up when she was a dancing instructor and the best TVs we had back then all had the tube (CTR) ''cathode ray tube'' i mean. we didnt even have the cell or mobile phones as we know today, back in the 80s.(there were wireless from the 40s but not like cell phones).

    anyway like I said they put so much lies and crap in the subject that the whole issue becomes nonsense soon. that is the problem.
    but I trust the credible witnesses like NATO chief under Eisenhower whose name I forgot (ruso?) AND MANY ON PROJECT DISCLOSURE .
    shoot i am late got to go bye
    Remember:
    Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence!

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    Thanks GP for sharing.
    I understand that the evidence might not be full proof but I'd like to be open minded. This TV series belongs to History Channel in US. If you have access to Netflix you can watch the season 1 and 2. You can try Netflix for 1 month for free. I am not sure if it can be accessed in all countries though.
    The first few episodes focus on ancient evidence. I can imagine the glider can be easily made by mimicking the birds. But how did they know to maintain the aerodynamic in the artifact with engineering precision? They made an scaled up version of it and it flies (they added an engine to it but the geometry is identical but scaled up). There was another small golden artifact which has no resemblance to any known fly or bird except a modern aircraft. It even has the vertical piece on the tail which is not part of any bird, wow. I will try to take the snap shut of these items and share with you.
    There was another artifact which looks like a man in space suite. I guess my question is that how can you dream up something which does not exist unless you have seen a version of it? At any rate, the TV program becomes controversial when it claims biblical stories are also related to aliens who were trying to shape the future of mankind. They even claim the creation of man on earth was done through genetic manipulation to create their own. The ancient alien theorists claim that God or Gods were the aliens who were misunderstood by man.
    I think mankind doesn't know the whole truth but he is trying to put together a puzzle keeping in mind that there is a logical explanation for everything.
    You might say that they make these theories because they want to reject religion.
    What do you think about the crop circles? are they hoax? How about UFO sightings? Are we being monitored by aliens? Are we their guinea pigs?
    Thanks for your time.

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    Thanks Meyti for sharing.
    Very informative. You have researched the topic in great detail. I agree with you that not everything they say is 100% truth. I would not say they are lying but they are hypothesizing/theorizing to reach the truth. I can remind ourselves of the story of elephant in the dark and people who are trying to describe it. I don't remember who said it though. Each person has an understanding of one part that can be touched. We can only see the whole truth if we shed some light on it.
    Thanks again.
    by the way, I also heard that Imam Ali has a saying on the existence of people like us in other planets, have you read it somewhere?
    Last edited by Kal_Ali; 10-01-2012 at 04:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meyti View Post
    General jaan salaam;
    sorry i didnt see your post.
    for a long time I didnt believe in them either then I thought may be these are the humans who in many 1000s of years in future they have learned how to travel in time so they come back and visit us, but then that idea went away because there are many types of aliens like the ones who look similar to us and the ones who are called reptilians who are like khazandeh ha (soosmar, etc.) but have a different skin etc, etc, and look very scary to ppl .

    There are a lot of evidence here and there but you cannot find 1 single place to trust cuz they try to hide this whole issue from ppl.
    This girl who was abducted a long ago (in the 1980's) said that she saw here laying on the table and these creatures were sticking long needles in her body ad taking hair and skin samples off her but she said she saw this huge color TV which was as thin as paper above her head....etc..

    This was on Unsolved Mysteries on the TV back in the 80's and I uploaded the tape on google videos back then. but this girl could not have even imagined that 1 day we will have thin Television sets. Not as thin as paper yet but we are getting there...
    how could see have made it up when she was a dancing instructor and the best TVs we had back then all had the tube (CTR) ''cathode ray tube'' i mean. we didnt even have the cell or mobile phones as we know today, back in the 80s.(there were wireless from the 40s but not like cell phones).

    anyway like I said they put so much lies and crap in the subject that the whole issue becomes nonsense soon. that is the problem.
    but I trust the credible witnesses like NATO chief under Eisenhower whose name I forgot (ruso?) AND MANY ON PROJECT DISCLOSURE .
    shoot i am late got to go bye
    سلام مهدی جان
    البته من نمی گویم چنین چیزی امکان پذیر نیست ولی سئوالهای زیادی است که در این مورد از خودم می پرسم و می بینم
    امکان وجود چنین چیزی از نبود ان کمتر است
    انزمان می گفتند که کسی دید و خبر داد بعضی ها تکذیب میکردند و میگفتند برای شهرت این حرفها را زده اند
    الان صدها ملیون نفر هر کدام یک دوربین همرا ه دارد
    چرا کسی یک فیلم البته بجز این فوتشوپ هایی که در یوتیوب می زنند از یکی از این موجوداتی که به ما سرمی زنند نگرفته اند؟
    یا مثلا یک اتفاقی که در جلوی چشمان هزاران نفر در یک شهر یا جایی رخ نداده؟
    چرا همیشه یک نفر دو نفر و حداکثر سه تا دوست یک چینین حادثه هایی را دیده اند ؟
    اگر بشقاب پرنده ها به ما سر می زنند ایا سعی میکنند که خودشان را از ما پنهان کنند به همین خاطر مثلا در یک جایی پر جمعیت فرود نمی ایند ؟
    چرا اکثر این اتفاقات در امریکا رخ می دهد هرچند که برخی اوقات در این سو ان سوی دنیا هم خبر می دهند که یکی دو نفر دیده اند ولی چرا همیشه برنامه در مورد یک امریکایی است که این چیزها را دیده ؟
    چرا تنها یک حادثه ان هم در روزول رخ میدهد ان هم زمانی که اوج پژوهش های نظامی امریکا است اتفاق می افتد
    و عجیب تر انکه این موجوداتی که صدها و شاید هزاران سال از ما پیشرفته تر هستند قادر نبودند که جسد همجنسان خود را از دست این انسان عقب افتاده پس بگیرند
    چرا مثلا یک بار بشقاب پرنده ای در یک کشور جهان سوم نیافتاده
    این سئولات است که بنده را وادار میکند که در این مورد شک کنم
    و به نظر می رسد که خود بشر در اینگونه امور دست دارد اگر بشقاب پرنده ها هستند و موجوداتی از انطرف کهکشان ما را زیارت میکنند حداقل می بایستی جایی در تاریخ عده ای بیش از صد دویست نفر شاهد در یک مکان وجود داشته باشد
    ولی شما بروید و بگردید
    یا یک نفر بوده
    یا دو نفر یا سه نفر
    ان هم بسیار مبهم البته باز تکرار میکنم من نمی گویم که چنین چیزی امکان ندارد ولی بنده در مورد ان شکوک زیادی دارم

    متشکرم

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    Thanks for the reply Kal_Ali.
    I am going to find out more about the religious leaders comments soon. I dont have any books in here.
    The hypnosis sessions were designed to remember the part of memory which was erased by the aliens. They (the hills) heard 2 beeps while driving the 1st one they heard they went into some kind of deep relaxation mode but drive some 34 miles (they didnt know how they drove that distance either) the 2nd beep kind of woke them up. I dont know how they put them in the state but there were magnetic circles in the truck of their car which made the compass spin. they noticed them bcs they were shiny circles on the truck lid.

    That dr. Simon did a lot of hypnosis ad was used by holeywood to make a movie and anyway was well known in his field. If you hear the tapes they are real the man barney Hill at one point is scared to death and asks the doctor "can I please wake up? would you please wake me up" the doctor says not right now , you are safe here nothing is going to happen to you and gives him assurances but then he panics and starts to scream as he sees the aliens in the window of their spaceship, the leader of the aliens looks at him and from distance kind of hypnotizes him and says to him stay right there and just look through your binoculars (barney was looking thru binoculars) then barney freaks out and tries hard to get away but he cant he is like frozen..
    he finally yanks and breaks the leather straps off his binoculars and later when he has a mark on his neck and it hurts he does not know how it got there.

    anyway the details are very interesting and I believe it to be the absolute truth. The Hills did not want this to get out and wanted to keep it private but then (someone at their church leakeed it out to e reporter)
    The hills also started to have similar dreams about abduction and aliens and that took a toll on them and made Barney really ill with his ulcers and other mental things he had to go see a psychologist that is when they referred them to Simon.
    the aliens can wipe a segment of our memory but then the dreams bring part of that memory back. I think this (the Hil;;s case) is why they do not come any more and they send down these EBEs or biological robots the famous Grays are I think robots bcs the real aliens almost look like us except they dont have ears and their moth is a slit and have no teeth, they are short and their color is gray, they are said to feed thru their skins? I dont know They say a lot of BS which is fantasy and not real.

    Betty Hill had a statue made from her hypnosis sessions, and the leader\s head almost look like a human head.
    in fact she is the one who drew the map the leader had shown her and some lady astronomer discovered the Zeta system a few years after that.
    while it is impossible to know such system even exists from north america as said b4. the aliens pregnancy test also was not developed in this fashion at that time. Many other things like the 3D imaging or the map of the stars etc, etc, This was a true case of abduction, she even almost got away with an alien book! The leader gave it to her but then the rest of the aliens protested and so they took it back and said they dont wish for her to know she had been abducted.

    I know a lot of ppl have claimed they have been abducted and now they call themselves Contactees that is pure BS and I dont believe any of them. they lie. there are no such thing as contactee period. and ppl like John Lear (his father made the famous lear jets) he is a nut and a liar, he worked for cia and BSes a lot and saiys outlandish things like they are monitoring us or they are going to attack us this and that.
    These creatures are a million years ahead of us they could have took us over a long ago but they do not want to interfere (just like th Star Trek the show) lol but they are serious about not interfering and not helping either. They just come harvest egg and sperm from ppl and leave and God knows what the hell they do with it, I think there are many humans up in the space who were born and raised by aliens but dont know how to talk or anything else like us. I also believe the case of this man by the name of Travis Walton who got too close to a UFO and got hurt from the intense electromagnetic radiation so the aliens came back and picked him up and nursed him back to health up in the space.
    he woke up and found some of the Grays along with some blond headed humans who did not talk at all.
    They made a movie called Fire in The Sky from his story...I believe it is true bcs 4 people almost got convicted of murder cuz the police did not believe the UFO story....and one thing about these ppl who tell the truth is that over the years they Never change their stories and it always stays the same Walton's story has been the same.
    Remember:
    Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kal_Ali View Post
    Thanks GP for sharing.
    I understand that the evidence might not be full proof but I'd like to be open minded. This TV series belongs to History Channel in US. If you have access to Netflix you can watch the season 1 and 2. You can try Netflix for 1 month for free. I am not sure if it can be accessed in all countries though.
    The first few episodes focus on ancient evidence. I can imagine the glider can be easily made by mimicking the birds. But how did they know to maintain the aerodynamic in the artifact with engineering precision? They made an scaled up version of it and it flies (they added an engine to it but the geometry is identical but scaled up). There was another small golden artifact which has no resemblance to any known fly or bird except a modern aircraft. It even has the vertical piece on the tail which is not part of any bird, wow. I will try to take the snap shut of these items and share with you.
    There was another artifact which looks like a man in space suite. I guess my question is that how can you dream up something which does not exist unless you have seen a version of it? At any rate, the TV program becomes controversial when it claims biblical stories are also related to aliens who were trying to shape the future of mankind. They even claim the creation of man on earth was done through genetic manipulation to create their own. The ancient alien theorists claim that God or Gods were the aliens who were misunderstood by man.
    I think mankind doesn't know the whole truth but he is trying to put together a puzzle keeping in mind that there is a logical explanation for everything.
    You might say that they make these theories because they want to reject religion.
    What do you think about the crop circles? are they hoax? How about UFO sightings? Are we being monitored by aliens? Are we their guinea pigs?
    Thanks for your time.
    دوست عزیز
    من سالها پیش همه کتاب ها و مصادر و مستندات کلود ویلهورن را خواندم و به پوچی گفته او و رائیلیان پی بردم
    حتی با برخی از اعضای بلند پایه رائیلیان هم صحبت کردم و انها را چنان سر کار گذاشتم که در اخر من را تهدید هم کردند
    در مورد ربط ادیان با مخلوقاتی که ملیونها سال پیش به زمین امدند هم خواندم و نقدهایی کردم که نتوانستند جواب بدهند
    اخر کارهم چه شد؟؟؟
    گفتند بله بنی اسرائیل رابطه مستقیم با یهوه که همان فرمانده این زیارت ها به زمین بوده دارند و تنها انها هستند که فرزندان خلف او هستند و بقیه مخلوطی از ایلینزها و موجودات زمین هستند !!!آ
    و یهوه یعنی فرمانده بشقاب پرنده ها اسرائیل و تحدیدا بین المقدس را مکان نزول خود در اینده قرار داده و باید انجا را برای او مهیا کنیم !!!آ
    بفرمایید این هم اخر این برنامه
    اینها را که شما می فرمایید من ده سال پیش خواندم
    خودم برای یکی از انها فیلمی بازی کردم که به پوچی گفتار خود پی بردند
    الیاس رائیل وقتی امد که تمام دنیا را داستان های یوفو و فیلم ها و سریال های مربوط به ان پر کرده بود
    او هم بسیار خیالپرداز و واقعا می بایستی یک داستان سرای و کارگردان فیلمهای تخیلی خوب می شد ولی از این راه کارگردان و نویسنده نشد بلکه ادعای پیامبری کرد
    من هم به همان سادگی می توانستم این ادعا را کنم چنانکه در مقابل عده ای از انها چنین ادعایی را کردم !!!ا
    اینجا یک نقاشی از لئوناردو داوینچی برای شما پست کرده ام نگاه کنید بی شباهت به بشقاب پرنده نیست
    ولی منظور داوینچی از این رسم یک سپر حفاظتی که دائره شکل است و افراد در ان بتوانند از هر سو دفاع کنند بوده نه یک بشقاب پرنده
    حالا اگر کسی چنین چیزی را در معابد انکا یا مصر یا هند پیدا میکرد و منظور نقاش یا طراح ان را نمی توانست بفهمد
    می امدند و میگفتند بشقاب پرنده یوده و تصویرش را کشیده اند و هزار داستان وکتاب دیگر

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    Dear GP and meyti:
    Thanks for your time sharing your findings. I am looking forward to hear more about this topic from your and other members. I think this is a fundamental question that how we came here. One theory claims that intelligent human was created by aliens on this planet through genetic manipulation a similar animal. But my question would be why would they do that. What did they want to acomplish? I guess it would take a long time to find the truth. Here are a couple of artifacts I captured from the show that I thought were interesing.



    This one is from 2000 years ago, don't know the location. Note that there is no insect similar to that and pay attention to the vertical tail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kal_Ali View Post
    Dear GP and meyti:
    Thanks for your time sharing your findings. I am looking forward to hear more about this topic from your and other members. I think this is a fundamental question that how we came here. One theory claims that intelligent human was created by aliens on this planet through genetic manipulation a similar animal. But my question would be why would they do that. What did they want to acomplish? I guess it would take a long time to find the truth. Here are a couple of artifacts I captured from the show that I thought were interesing.



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    علی جان
    من این عکس ها را دیده ام و در مورد انها خوانده ام
    اولی به نظر من یک توتم است که روی سطحی مسطح نصب می شده و به نظر من ربطی به هواپیما و فضانورد ندارد
    دومی هم بزرگان انکا به همین شکل سعی می کردند خود را به شکل حیوانات تزیین کنند
    معقول نیست که مجسمه سری مانند سر یک فضا نورد داشته باشد و در دست او نیزه باشد اگر انکاها این همه پیشرفت کرده بودند یا با این چیزها رابطه داشتند اسپانیایی ها به این اسانی انها را قتل عام نمی کردند
    شکلها برخی اوقات به نظر مثلا بشقاب پرنده یا فضانود یا هواپیما می رسد ولی این شکلها در واقع یا مثلا سر یک حیوان افسانه ای یا شیر است
    چنانکه در تصویری مربوط به لئوناردو داوینچی شکلی که او رسم کرده درست مثل یک بشقاب پرنده است
    در اینجا اگر به شکلی که با علامت قرمز مشخص کرده ام توجه کنید به نظر می رسد که یک کلاه خود پیشرفته با بی سیم یا گوشی که مجسمه در گوش دارد مجهز است در صورتی که منظور مجسمه ساز چیز دیگری بوده
    یعنی تصاویر بعدی که با ضربدر ابی مشخص کرده ام
    همچنین توتمی که در اینجا پست کرده ام هم بی شباهت به ان شکل گلایدر نیست


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    General jaan;

    I understand and agree with what you are saying. As I said there are lot of fakes out there. The all powerful government is also on the said of the fakers so that if anyone had a Real experience, people would put them off as fake too,

    We have NASA video and audio feeds that proves something is going on but then NASA started to scramble All their transmission so no one would know whats going on.
    I saw a NASA video which a spaceship came toward the earth, then you see a flash of light (assuming the rocket was fired from our military satellite) but at the same time the spaceship takes a 90 degree turn and flies away in an amazing speed! then you see the rocket shooting straight to the top right of the screen.

    they say it was a meteor or sang-e fazaei, heh the rock does not know how to dodge rockets and turn 90 degrees.

    but I know what you mean about photo-shopping pics and videos, there are a lot of them out there.
    in any case what I am saying is that there is a possibility that these aliens exist but we do not have all the info. because we are not allowed to know.

    Remember:
    Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence!

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    there is a longer version of the same video in which this ex nasa scientist explains whats going on...it may be in the related videos/?
    oh never mind it was about this tether that snapped in space...

    let me see: (they were pulling a satellite when the cord broke and went into space then all these huge ships came to check it out lol


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuFBUS0kiSA
    Remember:
    Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence!

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    BTW Gordon Cooper who is a well known astronaut and before that a test pilot for USAF wrote a letter to UN about the UFO subject bcs he witnessed so many both on the ground and in space.
    Also secretary of defence under Eisenhower by the name of Philip Corso came forwarrd and said a lot of things about UFOs and before he died he confessed that they took a lot of technologies from crashed UFOs and gave it to private sector to figure them out (back engineer to see how they worked).
    anyway these people are credible witnesses that we know of there was this other guy who was secretary of defense James Forrestal whom CIA killed and threw him out of hospital's 6th floor, he wanted to blow the whistle so they said he was crazy and put him in the hospital then killed him.






    Philip Corso:

    Remember:
    Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence!

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    Quote Originally Posted by meyti View Post
    General jaan;

    I understand and agree with what you are saying. As I said there are lot of fakes out there. The all powerful government is also on the said of the fakers so that if anyone had a Real experience, people would put them off as fake too,

    We have NASA video and audio feeds that proves something is going on but then NASA started to scramble All their transmission so no one would know whats going on.
    I saw a NASA video which a spaceship came toward the earth, then you see a flash of light (assuming the rocket was fired from our military satellite) but at the same time the spaceship takes a 90 degree turn and flies away in an amazing speed! then you see the rocket shooting straight to the top right of the screen.

    they say it was a meteor or sang-e fazaei, heh the rock does not know how to dodge rockets and turn 90 degrees.

    but I know what you mean about photo-shopping pics and videos, there are a lot of them out there.
    in any case what I am saying is that there is a possibility that these aliens exist but we do not have all the info. because we are not allowed to know.

    مهدی جان
    البته به نظرر من امکان ندارد که ما تنها موجودات باهوش بین این همه کهکشان و ملیاردها کره و سیارهه
    باشیم
    ولی من این دلایلی را که دلیل زیارت انها از کره خاکی ما می دانند را دلایلی محکم نمی دانم
    والا خود قران هم می گوید که بشر تنها موجود با هوش این عالم نیست

    متشکرم

 

 

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