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    Ferdosi jan thank you for posting this.
    Behzadb, Hossein Fardoust was one of the dirtiest scumbags to be known in history of Iran. He was the head of SAVAK for years and yet he ended up staying in Iran and was not even arrested after revolution!!!! he basically grew up with shah and was one of his oldest friends. during the eighties he came out publicly and talked about corruption in Shah's Era and how it was under the control of western countries. he also claimed that most of the oil money was stolen by shah and his relatives. he went to hell a few weeks later after these claims
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zob Ahan View Post
    He spent most of his youth in Switzerlands best private schools with the same Fardoost he was mentioning.
    He did not learn English to his later abilities there. In fact his English was rather weak when he first became Shah. He later chose to learn English and did exceptionally well. And it was not just his English, easily one of the best speakers among the heads of state. He was and still is the best dressed head of state ever. What is sadly amusing is that on both counts it is a total 180 degree for Iran. I am sure you've seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYdRBOJFUwY

    And there is really no need for comments on the way AN dresses.

    I do not think this is an accident. As I've said several times this revolution was won over by those who are ugly, a revenge for what was in the Shah's.

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    his french was better than his english , all saying he spoke a very good english way better than many iranians living here for 30 years lol
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    This is a quite one-sided documentary. Sadly, On one side we have IR's brainwashing against Pahalavi regime. On the other side we have these attempts by royalists to wipe out their past mistakes. I believe the interviewer is Raha Etemadi who does not hide his liking for the former regime (refer to his facebook page). That is why these royalists hate people like Masih Alinejad because she does not throw soft balls at anyone. Shah, even he was a good person, was a despot and a dictator, period. He did many good things for Iran but one of his legacies is also helping to bring about IR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardesheer View Post
    Chi bood va chi shod. Khak bar sareh har ki raft too khiyaboon va roof tops. Reedam beh Khomeini va har ki tarafdaresh bood.
    were we really advance? what did we have? didnt the same "ADVANCE" people go the roof to see Imam pic on the moon? didnt the same "Advance" people hooray the Frozen meat ban and got fooled by free housing and electricity? Shah failed to educate people, failed to show them what true Islam is, if ONE thing the IR did like no other, showed people what Islam is capable of.
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    Some find their Mecca in Saudi Arabia, Some in Palestine and some in Vatican, I find mine in Madrid and I call it “The Estadio Santiago Bernabéu”

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    I always said, whatever mess we got into with IR came out of Shah's regime. I really think he lived in a cocoon where he thought people loved him so much that he was untouchable. You can see it from the various interviews. He though most people would be behind him all the way and he naively believed he had many friends internationally too. But when push came to shove, most people he trusted shafted him!

    But his biggest mistake in my view was to ban this and that. Khomeini's book was banned, but why? Why not let people read this shit, in fact, he should have handed it out for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feyenoord View Post
    This is a quite one-sided documentary. Sadly, On one side we have IR's brainwashing against Pahalavi regime. On the other side we have these attempts by royalists to wipe out their past mistakes. I believe the interviewer is Raha Etemadi who does not hide his liking for the former regime (refer to his facebook page). That is why these royalists hate people like Masih Alinejad because she does not throw soft balls at anyone. Shah, even he was a good person, was a despot and a dictator, period. He did many good things for Iran but one of his legacies is also helping to bring about IR.
    Typical, predictable, impotent and useless vacant comments.

    people like you would like to see iranians roll in ashed and dust and suffering from famine so that you can back pedal to 40 years ago and blame it on the previous regime.
    As a human being you need to free yourself from this religiously biased tunnel vision or else you cannot hop over the last step of evolution from ape to man.
    holiness is in the right action not in god .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Behrooz_C View Post
    I always said, whatever mess we got into with IR came out of Shah's regime. I really think he lived in a cocoon where he thought people loved him so much that he was untouchable. You can see it from the various interviews. He though most people would be behind him all the way and he naively believed he had many friends internationally too. But when push came to shove, most people he trusted shafted him!

    But his biggest mistake in my view was to ban this and that. Khomeini's book was banned, but why? Why not let people read this shit, in fact, he should have handed it out for free.
    Again wrong.
    His action for his time were the best for that society.

    we saw what happened when the bans were briefly lifted after the islamic rape of Iran. thousands of kids getting brain washed by different left and muslim sects and presented by their leaders to their deaths either during the iraq war or internal civil war of MKO.

    since we needed another ten or fifteen years to be able to use critical thinking and science Shah's solutions, however imperfect, were the best for us
    holiness is in the right action not in god .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pooya View Post
    were we really advance? what did we have? didnt the same "ADVANCE" people go the roof to see Imam pic on the moon? didnt the same "Advance" people hooray the Frozen meat ban and got fooled by free housing and electricity? Shah failed to educate people, failed to show them what true Islam is, if ONE thing the IR did like no other, showed people what Islam is capable of.
    my friend you should not need a daddy in the sky to educate you.
    may it be allah, shah, mamad rapist, molaye motaghiyan ali e adam kosh, mossadegh or bakhtiar.

    you ( i mean a rhetorical you) need books and reading. and thousands and thousands of books were available during shah's regime. All banned books were available a plenty in tehran, tabriz, mash had and esphahan. The problem was and is and always will be that IRanians as a race are not READERS. they are APERS yani copiers and followers of X,Y,Z.

    you expected shah's people to come and put a mikh in everyone's ass every morning to force them to read books ??? be practical.

    be ghole khode shoma khoda parasta:
    az to harekat
    az khoda barekat

    our motto is:

    az everyone else harekat
    i want to sit on my ass and do nothing and get barekat.

    therefore:

    hezb faghat hezbollah
    dokhtar 14 sale virgin baraye rooh ollah
    holiness is in the right action not in god .

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyvan_pars View Post
    Typical, predictable, impotent and useless vacant comments.

    people like you would like to see iranians roll in ashed and dust and suffering from famine so that you can back pedal to 40 years ago and blame it on the previous regime.
    As a human being you need to free yourself from this religiously biased tunnel vision or else you cannot hop over the last step of evolution from ape to man.
    LOL as well as a typical comments from you. Did I hit a nerve there? You need to free yourself from dogmatism and a mind resulting from 2500 years oppression. I can understand that this would be hard for you specially coming from a background of supporting torture (having family members in SAVAK).

    No seriously, to mesle inke waghean fekr mikoni Iran behesht boode oon moghe na?

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyvan_pars View Post
    my friend you should not need a daddy in the sky to educate you.
    may it be allah, shah, mamad rapist, molaye motaghiyan ali e adam kosh, mossadegh or bakhtiar.

    you ( i mean a rhetorical you) need books and reading. and thousands and thousands of books were available during shah's regime. All banned books were available a plenty in tehran, tabriz, mash had and esphahan. The problem was and is and always will be that IRanians as a race are not READERS. they are APERS yani copiers and followers of X,Y,Z.

    you expected shah's people to come and put a mikh in everyone's ass every morning to force them to read books ??? be practical.

    be ghole khode shoma khoda parasta:
    az to harekat
    az khoda barekat

    our motto is:

    az everyone else harekat
    i want to sit on my ass and do nothing and get barekat.

    therefore:

    hezb faghat hezbollah
    dokhtar 14 sale virgin baraye rooh ollah
    You know what the interesting part is? In my teenager years I was actually a shah supporter. Hearing the typical non-sense from the older generation Iranians. As soon as i started to educate myself and read, I realized how redicilous my views are. Everything in history points to the direction of Shah's despotism and dictatorship. Maybe it is you who is reading the wrong books. But again you might choose to, because you do not care about democracy in the country and you know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyvan_pars View Post
    Again wrong.
    His action for his time were the best for that society.
    Oh yes, that old chestnut!

    I have heard this line uttered by the supporters of the current regime too. IR behaves the way it does because of the current circumstances of the time. They are surrounded by enemies, everyone is there to destroy Islamic Iran and everyone is an enemy......etc etc. so they oppress, rape, torture, kill etc. all because this is best for the time!

    But BULLSHIT!

    Fact is Shah was paranoid. He was paranoid about leftists and communists but there is always an alternative. He was not without choice but he followed the wrong path as he later himself admitted. He should have listened to his advisers 3 years earlier.

    Unfortunately the only people he wasn't paranoid about were the akhounds, because he respected them!!!!!! He was a self proclaimed religious person who didn't want to oppose the clergy. I mean what the fuck?
    And in the end it was the same clergy he mistakenly respected that cut his legs off! so whichever way you look at it, he made mistakes, big mistakes that cost him and Iran dearly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BehzadB View Post
    Shah talks about a guy named "Fardoost"!

    Anyone knows what happened to this guy and if in fact it was him who had Shah's nephew killed?
    Arteshbod Fardoost was Shah's childhood friend, the friendship started when Shah was 5 years old and Hussein Fardoost was seven. They were classmates through elementary school and often played together in different palaces and later on Reza Shah asked him to move in and stay in Saa'd Abaad.

    They went to Swiss and studied there and upon return they both enrolled in Military Academy (Daaneshgaah Afsari) and graduated as 2nd lieutenant. Later on Fardoost was sent to UK for intelligence training by MI6 that is where he was snatched by MI6 and transformed to immensely valuable British agent in high level of Iranian government. As a matter of fact I believe he was nominated for being a British Intelligent agent the first day he arrived in Switzerland. According to his own book which he wrote after revolution Shah and him had an old guy who had British nationality working for them as house keeper, whom Fadoost claimed was too educated and intelligent for being a house keeper.

    He returned to Iran and established the infamous Savak and acted as the first Head of the agency and he continued feeding Britons with all kind of sensitive and highly classified information. Some how he knew about the Islamists in Iran preparing for revolution and decided to collaborate with Islamists, so during the last 2 or 3 years of Shah's rein he was actually a triple agent, Iranian, British and Islamist intelligent agent.

    After the revolution while entire high ranking Iranian army officers were facing firing squad by bunch every day Fardoost was bz at work establishing SAVAMA (nowadays VIVAK). He died of natural causes in 1988 (?).

    Not long before the revolution he also managed to have Ghareh Baaghi join into his camp, and that is how they both skipped the firing squad. Since they acted and depicted themselves as closest and highest confidants of Shah in front of other high ranking military officers I have no doubt in my mind that they influenced other generals to declare neutrality at 10 AM 22 Bahman 1357 and not later than 5 hours after, Bakhtyar's gov. collapsed and Islamists took over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by feyenoord View Post
    You know what the interesting part is? In my teenager years I was actually a shah supporter. Hearing the typical non-sense from the older generation Iranians. As soon as i started to educate myself and read, I realized how redicilous my views are. Everything in history points to the direction of Shah's despotism and dictatorship. Maybe it is you who is reading the wrong books. But again you might choose to, because you do not care about democracy in the country and you know it.
    I’m going to wager a guess that you did not educate yourself properly. It seems your as well as my education started and was highly influenced by western media campaign against Shah in early 70s.

    You see he was not a despot or at least not to that level which western and eastern (USSR) operatives wanted us to believe until his interview in which he openly mentioned “When our present contracts with oil companies expires we will not sign a contract with the same implementation. We will not sell crud anymore. We will refine our own oil and oil companies will buy our finished product as various fuels and petrochemical material”.

    He was not a dictator until he openly accused US financial institution and majority of western media being under direct influence of Jewish community.

    He was not a despot until he decided (contrary to public belief) to back Egypt during Yum Kippur war. The main reason for his such a close friendship with Saadaat.

    He was not a dictator until western govs and media branded him as staunch element for raising crud prices from $2 a barrel to $12, and wanted to steer western public opinion to “Yes our suffering b/c of high oil prices is Shah’s fault”. They bombarded public minds that he is guilty as charged

    He was not a dictator until he openly declared that “British people posses the expertise and have the means to produce more, but they are lazy and don’t want to work. Why don’t you (Brits) work half an hour a day more, instead of expecting us to sell you our oil which is majority of our national income for peanuts?”.

    NO!! History does point every thing toward Shah’s despotism, history points majority of the blame twd Iranians themselves for being so gullible and asleep while anti-Iranian perpetrators were working over time to derail our progress and transform a 3000 years old vibrant culture to a pariah state.

    He was a reformable Leader but NO! We did not want that, we wanted to burn every thing, wipe out the traces of dictatorship (ha ha) and bring about a situation we are in today in our quest for democracy. Ha ha again.
    There is only one way to look at this world and that is my way.

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    This was great info Motori. That SOB Fardoost was a traitor that caused the signing that would bring one of the darkest time in the history of Iran.

    We can go and blame Shah and Khominie, but at the end, it is the Iranian people that are the problem. You can look at the backwardness and narrow mindness of majority of them and realize Shah perhaps is the best they can get. Their obsession with the most backward religion at this time in history, Islam, says it all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Motori View Post
    Arteshbod Fardoost was Shah's childhood friend, the friendship started when Shah was 5 years old and Hussein Fardoost was seven. They were classmates through elementary school and often played together in different palaces and later on Reza Shah asked him to move in and stay in Saa'd Abaad.

    They went to Swiss and studied there and upon return they both enrolled in Military Academy (Daaneshgaah Afsari) and graduated as 2nd lieutenant. Later on Fardoost was sent to UK for intelligence training by MI6 that is where he was snatched by MI6 and transformed to immensely valuable British agent in high level of Iranian government. As a matter of fact I believe he was nominated for being a British Intelligent agent the first day he arrived in Switzerland. According to his own book which he wrote after revolution Shah and him had an old guy who had British nationality working for them as house keeper, whom Fadoost claimed was too educated and intelligent for being a house keeper.

    He returned to Iran and established the infamous Savak and acted as the first Head of the agency and he continued feeding Britons with all kind of sensitive and highly classified information. Some how he knew about the Islamists in Iran preparing for revolution and decided to collaborate with Islamists, so during the last 2 or 3 years of Shah's rein he was actually a triple agent, Iranian, British and Islamist intelligent agent.

    After the revolution while entire high ranking Iranian army officers were facing firing squad by bunch every day Fardoost was bz at work establishing SAVAMA (nowadays VIVAK). He died of natural causes in 1988 (?).

    Not long before the revolution he also managed to have Ghareh Baaghi join into his camp, and that is how they both skipped the firing squad. Since they acted and depicted themselves as closest and highest confidants of Shah in front of other high ranking military officers I have no doubt in my mind that they influenced other generals to declare neutrality at 10 AM 22 Bahman 1357 and not later than 5 hours after, Bakhtyar's gov. collapsed and Islamists took over.
    It is doomed a country whose creator declared the first laws of Human right, yet, its people worship the history of those who invaded them .

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