[Video]: released today to Alarabiya. Iranian Sepah members arrested by free syrian army

[#8]

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وزیر امور خارجه ایران : تعدادي از زائران ربوده شده در سوريه از بازنشستگان سپاه و ارتش هستند


به گزارش خبرنگار سياسي خارجي خبرگزاري دانشجويان ايران (ايسنا)، علي اكبر صالحي، وزیر امور خارجه ایران، كه پس از ديدارش با احمد داوود اوغلو، وزير امور خارجه تركيه و در مسير بازگشت به تهران با خبرنگاران سخن مي گفت، در مورد موضوعات مورد مذاكره در اين سفر گفت:

بسيار صريح و واضح در مورد وضعيت اين افراد صحبت كرديم و اخبار منتشر شده در مورد وابستگي اين افراد به سپاه را تكذيب كرديم و شرح داديم كه براي مدتي بود كه زائرين به سوريه نمي رفتند، اما از زماني كه دمشق آرام شد(!) مجددا آغاز به اعزام زائرين كرديم و بازنشستگان ادارات مختلف از سپاه و وزارتخانه هاي ديگر به نوبت در ليست زائران قرار گرفتند و عشق و شور ايراني ها به اهل بيت آنقدر زياد است كه ما نمي توانيم مانع اقبال مردم به زيارت عتبات شويم. به هر حال تعدادي از اين عزيزان از بازنشستگان سپاه و ارتش بوده اند، البته افرادي نيز از ادارات مختلف ديگر بوده اند و حتي قرار بود در مرحله بعد بازنشستگان ادارات ديگر نيز اعزام شوند كه آرام آرام راه براي زيارت ساير مردم و شهروندان نيز باز شود.

[lordofmordor]

If you are military man, especially of Sepah of the Muslim government of Iran, and in Syria, during a time they are going through massacres, worst form of tortures, rapes, etc, you deserve whatever happens to you. Still, I like to request Syrians to just put a bullet in their head and not beat, torture, nor do anything else to them. Although, these animals Islamic republic resprentative would do the worst kind of toruture and killing if situation was reversed. They have no shame doing it to unarmed Iranian men and women who all they ask for is freedom.

This is not different from what people of Iran would do to SOB Islamic regime leaders and all their supporters, once Iranians rescue the country from these reef raf garbage.

AghAyoon..doostane aziz....Moshkele ma to Iran ye chiz dige ast...moshkel khodemoonim in Short, otherwise I dare say 99% of sepahis etc az khodemoonan...I know if U ask a friend or relative in Iran most of the time Jav gir mishan va baraye khosh sohbati be zamin o zaman fohsh midan dar soratike..they meaning us are the big part of the problem...when we will be ready..syria ke addadi nist..khode nato ham nemitone jeloye mA ro begire...tA oon zaman just be a bit patient..its not that far..

This is not to say..West's mistakes in the area..their savagery in doin' what ever the hell they intend to do...Doostie khAle khersi emrica...all of those factors have not hurt us and our movement toward true good governance...they have..

for example....ask a high ranking u.s. military about events in iraq,especially...hamin sepah...hamin Ghods brigade helped them hell of a lot more than hurt them...but at least on the paper..in media..emricayea namard hastand...va hamin sepah ke led them to Iraq meaning helping secure the entry route...and then helped them secure the exit corridor few months ago....now at least , zAheran...they call them terrorists and bs like that..conspiracy gang of course rationalize all of this in a different way as u know well...

So..coming back to events in Syria...ye mosht kesAfat az arabestan ba ye seri ahmagh to torkeye o qatar..va be sar kardegi ye seri dayoos to west darand jeniat ajib o ghrib mikonan va call it " syrian regime not wanting to grant " freedom"..trust me on this....they r the evil doers themselves..and u know..these same gang..al keyda whatever will be knocking on their door soon...for real...not as a made up 9/11 crap....just look at egypt..

[artavile]

Beystr jan, I have noticed how drastically your perspective on Iran in general and Iranian regime in particular has changed over the past couple of years that I am not sure you are the same person anymore!
Back to the subject ….I initially gave these people “zavar” the benefit of the doubt and presumed they are only guilty of very low IQ syndrome (typical among pilgrims) but when you notice how IRR is actively trying to secure the release of “Zavars” through Turkey/Qatar and others, you’ll know this is not a typical IRR behavior looking after well being of its citizens.
If these guys (ironically no old ladies or female zavars among them) are in fact part of sepah mercenaries they did not come to enlighten Syrian citizens….and I do not think they’ll ever leave Syria again, at least not in one piece.

[lordofmordor]

I will add there is a very good possibility these same Sepah people were very active in putting down the demonstrations, arresting, rape and Torture during post election in Iran and therefore were send to do the same successfully in Syria.

Beystr jan, I have noticed how drastically your perspective on Iran in general and Iranian regime in particular has changed over the past couple of years that I am not sure you are the same person anymore!
Back to the subject ….I initially gave these people “zavar” the benefit of the doubt and presumed they are only guilty of very low IQ syndrome (typical among pilgrims) but when you notice how IRR is actively trying to secure the release of “Zavars” through Turkey/Qatar and others, you’ll know this is not a typical IRR behavior looking after well being of its citizens.
If these guys (ironically no old ladies or female zavars among them) are in fact part of sepah mercenaries they did not come to enlighten Syrian citizens….and I do not think they’ll ever leave Syria again, at least not in one piece.

[beystr 2.0]

Arti jon…. I don’t think your assessment is really correct or even fair…let me ask u…how do u read my avatar..?...If it’s not conveying the meaning I intended…perhaps I should explain :

It is an edited version of the poster of the movie..ShAzde EhtejAb…more importantly..it tries to portray the suicidal nature of our embedded religious and rigid fanatical traditional ideologies .. and in short.. estehAle Kamel e yek no’e tafakkor where it’s gonna finish you…

should I say more..?

Arti jon..I believe in certain principles and hope to better serve it with time and knowledge …that being in summary IRAN..I’d think in fact if I say the same things I said 6 or 10 yrs ago..it shows my lack of dynamic mentality and more or less a type of person who sits in his room all the time…does not engage in the society …and basically ejaculates on his or her own one -time version of what is right/true and indeed what is really going on around him….( a good description of many of my own friends and colleges)

I believe there are ( here on ISP and elsewhere in the Media) enough showing of the things most of us agree or at least are exposed to…I would hope to better serve the our decision making process by showing or at least putting in perspective the side that I have better view of and not become “ javgir” as much as possible…I am aware of the price I’d have to pay doing this..infact being scolded by both side is the bitter side of this….but , what the heck!

If saying “pro Monarchy “ out loud in my environment..is not keeping of old principles ( right or wrong) while taking a lot of” khatar” .. and ultimately is not good enough for you dear Arti….then you are just being “bi ensAf”…

[artavile]

Beystr jan, thanks for taking the time and offering your perspective on my comment, I wasn’t really expecting an explanation. As for your avatar, I didn’t understand what it represents and even after you explained it, I still don’t, thought it was a King from our “glorious” past history.
Beystr jan, I agree with you that over the years we evolve and change, I certainly don’t expect you or anyone else taking “Khatar” on my behalf. I just did not understand your logic against Syrian fighters, while no one has a crystal ball to see how they will turn out but there is no misunderstanding what ass-ad and his cronies are doing to their own country! How can anyone justify that?

[beystr 2.0]

Well..Arti jon...U did say I had a drastic change of attitude toward IRI..?..U are not alone..so I had to say what I did...

btw- If u get a chance ..see that movie..ShAzade ehtejAb..by Bahman e FarmAn Ara..made right before 79 revolution and did not even receive the public screening permit before the revolution...it does show the hypocritical nature of some of our old tired traditions which has roots in our religion...and how it ultimately becomes a game of I-ranian roulette..that's what I called this poster after I edited it for my avatar...

reg. Syria...The question from my Point of view is this...is this a popular uprising or is it fishing in muddy waters by the Bad people?..trying to take advantage of Arab Spring..so to speak.. and get rid of whoever don't agree with them whole heartily...

Nobody..not certainly me is denying the Syria Military's brutality....but ..hey...what would any government would or should do when its attacked so viciously..?..It is an absolute criminal act by the Sunni's of this region and the western backers and more importantly & for my sake...it could make whole area into a ball of fire....if u r mid east resident...U have to question the wisdom of this kind of Crap....but then again...wisdom is something we have not seen from those who claim a thing or 2 about it..
this foolish play of raising a worst monster to get rid of another must end one of these times....how much more should we continue pay for U.S.'s fucked up foreign policy.?....I tell u..no matter who wins in this ( syrian) affair...we in Iran are the immediate losers....and for that...thanks alot Amoo Sam and the accommodating whores..!

[Behrooz_C]

Nobody..not certainly me is denying the Syria Military's brutality....but ..hey...what would any government would or should do when its attacked so viciously..?

Actually the uprising was not a vicious attack to begin with. The images showed they were peaceful demonstrations which turned bloody by Assad. Much like our own post election uprising where people demonstrated in the streets and were beaten up, arrested and taken away. This was worse however.

If you oppress people and quash their voice you will turn them more violent, not less. This is what happened in Syria.

[Motori]

Nobody..not certainly me is denying the Syria Military's brutality....but ..hey...what would any government would or should do when its attacked so viciously..?..It is an absolute criminal act by the Sunni's of this region and the western backers and more importantly & for my sake...it could make whole area into a ball of fire....if u r mid east resident...U have to question the wisdom of this kind of Crap....but then again...wisdom is something we have not seen from those who claim a thing or 2 about it..
this foolish play of raising a worst monster to get rid of another must end one of these times....how much more should we continue pay for U.S.'s fucked up foreign policy.?....I tell u..no matter who wins in this ( syrian) affair...we in Iran are the immediate losers....and for that...thanks alot Amoo Sam and the accommodating whores..!

Beystr,

It is obvious you are a staunch critique of "ill fated" U.S foreign policies and against U.S intervention and meddling in other nation's internal affair but reading your posts in this thread (and many previous posts as well) I'm coming to this conclusion that some how you are trying to justify IRR's clandestine and many times overt intervention not just in Syria but Iraq, Afghanistan, Bahrain and as far as Yemen internal affairs. Why double standard?

A vicious group of rebels are fighting a bloodsucking regime's murderous army, let them continue until scores are settled. Oh yes many innocent lives will be lost in cross fire which will not be lessened by other nations interference (U.N interference excluded). A government (IRR in this case) who is incapable of providing its people's basic need like food and carries a terrible baggage of human rights track record is not and should not be in a position of interfering in another nation's internal affair.

IRR's foreign policies has put our nation in a dangerous and frightening path which makes it a national sin to even hint an agreement with what ever this monster is doing inside and outside of Iran.

[Motori]

Isn't strange that all these "zavar" are men ??????????

Zob and Motori, Most IRIGC animals look fake in real life. They have hard time disguising their animal nature....

And if they were just pilgrims, Amniyati part of IRI would not have become so "dast pache" , traveling to turkey to beg for mediation. That should have been function of FM.

There is more into this than IRI admits.

Mr, A.
I meant just the 2nd video not the whole group of all male military age "ZavvArs".

[beystr 2.0]

Motori jon..with all due respect u r sounding much the same as popular tabloid media..ofcourse we know about the IRI’s weak diplomacy and everything else..….but..C’mon..

Are u saying…our gov. should sit back and just watch the next door neighbors just do what they r told or basically let their insecure environment come to us.? Hell ..no… how do u think we have managed to stay relatively and incomparably ( gooshe sheytone kar) secure…when there is mayhem going on in Iraq..Pakistan..Afghanistan..U name it.?.

And yes..u r repeating the ol’ tired line about IRI’s interference causing the mayhem…wrong..u know it..and Amoo Sam knows it as well, even if their tabloid media keeps saying the same bs forever…their problems are caused by insecurities from War..Civil war… U.S. …and basically West’s “ NashiAne” policies… but of course..what's easier than just blame it all on the bad ol' IRI..can always do that..right?..its much like bombarding an entire body with Chemical and radiation therapy..u kill all the appropriate defenses’… the problem is, these guys do their “therapy” thing and when their money or patience runs out they leave and guess who is left with the mess..it’s us dude..and when it comes to a country..and specifically our neighbors we have to keep footin’ the bill..for terrorists sent to our borders…refugees..u name it… u r just talking much like somebody looking from far away….understandable… can’t blame u for that…

[masoudA]

Interesting Reads - all over....
I just want to add:

Arti jaan - don't worry about bey - he is no fake.

There is (has been) a serious Islamization move taking place in the ME replacing any government remotly nationalist. This movement has been planned and devised in Europe - and as you all can see is being implemented with a defused Obama run USA looking like fools. Does it remind you of another era when The Euros were calling foreign policy shots in USA????? Carter era? The idiot Euros think because Ebn Saud are their dogs.....this Islamic Khalifeh Gari the Arabs are interested in will always remain their dog. Huge gamble that will eat them alive.

As for the whole concept of Ziarat.......Those of you who have not been to Iran in the last few decades should know.......amongst hezis, a trip abroad is limited to ziarat. A hezi can never come out and say I am traveling to say Italy to see the world....this SOB's must always say I am going Ziarat.....by deceit there always has to be a religious purpose involved. The richer Hezis will of-course change face and do visit all tourist attractions.....but when it comes to the poorer and less educated hezis - a trip abroad means Karbala or Shaam (syria)......

[masoudA]

Amoo bey -
Your point about the media in USA is an understatement.........you have no idea how ridiculous things are looking here these days. The propaganda campaign has become so intense (on both side) that one can no longer vent them off no matter what.
The other day CNN aired a so called "News" segment - a dramatic story about a hispanic guy in LA who had lost his job and was almost homeless till he found a part time job in LAX. I was watching in amazement since CNN tries never to get into issues relating to unemployment and people suffering from lack of employment......until the last part of the "News" segment when the hispanic was asked: Who will you vote for on the next election....and of-course he replied: Obama.....and added something like we must all sarcrifice and finish the job.........the social engineering taking place here is unbelievable......and having learned all the lessons of the past from their leftist commrads...our so called leftists are about to break all barriers.........journalism is all but dead in AMerica.

[parham79]

It's obvious as daylight that to supress the Syrian people so kill them all.

[parham79]

Motori jon..with all due respect u r sounding much the same as popular tabloid media..ofcourse we know about the IRI’s weak diplomacy and everything else..….but..C’mon..

Are u saying…our gov. should sit back and just watch the next door neighbors just do what they r told or basically let their insecure environment come to us.? Hell ..no… how do u think we have managed to stay relatively and incomparably ( gooshe sheytone kar) secure…when there is mayhem going on in Iraq..Pakistan..Afghanistan..U name it.?.

And yes..u r repeating the ol’ tired line about IRI’s interference causing the mayhem…wrong..u know it..and Amoo Sam knows it as well, even if their tabloid media keeps saying the same bs forever…their problems are caused by insecurities from War..Civil war… U.S. …and basically West’s “ NashiAne” policies… but of course..what's easier than just blame it all on the bad ol' IRI..can always do that..right?..its much like bombarding an entire body with Chemical and radiation therapy..u kill all the appropriate defenses’… the problem is, these guys do their “therapy” thing and when their money or patience runs out they leave and guess who is left with the mess..it’s us dude..and when it comes to a country..and specifically our neighbors we have to keep footin’ the bill..for terrorists sent to our borders…refugees..u name it… u r just talking much like somebody looking from far away….understandable… can’t blame u for that…

So arming Shias in Saudis to attack and cause trouble in Saudi which in tern has made Saudis lashout or Sepah aming it's elments to hijack the bahrain revloution, causing a civil war in Yemn is good foreign policey?