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    Quote Originally Posted by Playboy View Post
    or just invest in camels for it's great fuel economy.
    a350 landing at merabad this week.beats a camel any day.


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    Now this is very good news, Boeing Co. is finally open for business in Iran.

    Boeing Cleared for Iran Talks After $27 Billion Airbus Haul
    The U.S. government cleared the manufacturer to begin talking with approved Iranian carriers about their fleet needs, a first step toward entering the country’s resurgent aircraft market, Boeing said Friday. The planemaker will still need a separate license to complete any commercial jetliner sales.


    Ardavan Amir-Aslani, a French-Iranian lawyer who is negotiating deals with Tehran for French companies says the Airbus deal isn't set in stone.
    "The agreements that have been signed are not definite, final documents," he says.

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    Interesting...for some people in this thread, its clearly more important that the american Boeing earns a few milliards of their own rather than the needs and problems of Iran and Iran Air. Its like hey, if Iran is about to get milked, why shouldnt our american Boeing have a share? Its really sad to see people with dubious loyalties and preferences roam on an iranian site and gang up true iranians.

    Regarding the issue, well Iran Air needs new planes. However in this deal, once again milliards of iranian peoples money will be redirected on privat bank accounts of agha zadeh haa, many people will take bribes to favor Airbus vs. Boeing and vice versa....business as usual. Iranians have given up tracking those huge losses of financial resources or stopping the bleeding. They steal and people dont care. Every single of those Airbuses or Boeings will cost iranian people 1000 times of its actual cost but we dong care
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tehol Beddict View Post
    Interesting...for some people in this thread, its clearly more important that the american Boeing earns a few milliards of their own rather than the needs and problems of Iran and Iran Air. Its like hey, if Iran is about to get milked, why shouldnt our american Boeing have a share? Its really sad to see people with dubious loyalties and preferences roam on an iranian site and gang up true iranians.

    Regarding the issue, well Iran Air needs new planes. However in this deal, once again milliards of iranian peoples money will be redirected on privat bank accounts of agha zadeh haa, many people will take bribes to favor Airbus vs. Boeing and vice versa....business as usual. Iranians have given up tracking those huge losses of financial resources or stopping the bleeding. They steal and people dont care. Every single of those Airbuses or Boeings will cost iranian people 1000 times of its actual cost but we dong care
    Those dodgy dealing happen anyway. If they don't buy planes they buy something else that diverts money for agha zaadeh ha. We already know this.

    But at the very least let's our people feel some safety when they fly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Behrooz_C View Post
    Those dodgy dealing happen anyway. If they don't buy planes they buy something else that diverts money for agha zaadeh ha. We already know this.

    But at the very least let's our people feel some safety when they fly.
    I agree with that safety part but not with the first part of your post. Those dodgy dealings do not happen everywhere, they do happen in countries like Iran and only because it also happens in Pakistan, it doesnt mean we have to accept it. I for my one, wont fly with IranAir anyway, not even with these new planes because i know where that money will go to. However for those iranians who have to take national flies within Iran, i absolutely support the idea to completely change the fleet. Those people dont have any other choice than to make use of IranAir and they do deserve better than 45 years old Tupolevs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tehol Beddict View Post
    I agree with that safety part but not with the first part of your post. Those dodgy dealings do not happen everywhere, they do happen in countries like Iran and only because it also happens in Pakistan, it doesnt mean we have to accept it. I for my one, wont fly with IranAir anyway, not even with these new planes because i know where that money will go to. However for those iranians who have to take national flies within Iran, i absolutely support the idea to completely change the fleet. Those people dont have any other choice than to make use of IranAir and they do deserve better than 45 years old Tupolevs.
    You misunderstood. I never said they happen everywhere. I said they happen anyway. and I meant in Iran. The regime's dogs have been milking the business deals mafia style for years now.
    In fact during the sanctions some of these parasites made millions from ghachagh.
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    You are right, my bad. However its still hard to swallow. To know they will steal milliards of dollars in process and to not be able to do anything against it. The only thing i can do is to be true to my own standards and principals and not fly IranAir when i have other options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tehol Beddict View Post
    Interesting...for some people in this thread, its clearly more important that the american Boeing earns a few milliards of their own rather than the needs and problems of Iran and Iran Air. Its like hey, if Iran is about to get milked, why shouldnt our american Boeing have a share? Its really sad to see people with dubious loyalties and preferences roam on an iranian site and gang up true iranians.

    Regarding the issue, well Iran Air needs new planes. However in this deal, once again milliards of iranian peoples money will be redirected on privat bank accounts of agha zadeh haa, many people will take bribes to favor Airbus vs. Boeing and vice versa....business as usual. Iranians have given up tracking those huge losses of financial resources or stopping the bleeding. They steal and people dont care. Every single of those Airbuses or Boeings will cost iranian people 1000 times of its actual cost but we dong care
    What exactly do you propose we should do? I live in the States. If I want to travel to Iran in the next few years and have the option of travelling with Iran Air or Turkish, which airline should I choose?
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    Its your decision not mine pal. My experience with iranians tells me they are no people of principals so most of them would keep insulting the regime and still fly with IranAir although we all know where that money is gonna go to

    If you dont mind the system, take the IranAir, it will probably be cheaper and its gonna be a direct flight i guess. I for my one will keep flying foreign airlines although its a little more expensive and indirect too. I have taken Turkish, Air France and Lufthansa for the flight to Tehran and never had a problem with neither of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tehol Beddict View Post
    Its your decision not mine pal. My experience with iranians tells me they are no people of principals so most of them would keep insulting the regime and still fly with IranAir although we all know where that money is gonna go to

    If you dont mind the system, take the IranAir, it will probably be cheaper and its gonna be a direct flight i guess. I for my one will keep flying foreign airlines although its a little more expensive and indirect too. I have taken Turkish, Air France and Lufthansa for the flight to Tehran and never had a problem with neither of them.
    I have taken Iran Air in the past and have traveled with Turkish as well. I have heard of number complaints from Iranian passengers taking turkish airlines anywhere from losing their luggage, items being stolen from their bags... You are probably right, being Iran Air an airline run by the gov't... you are after all putting money in their pocket if you fly with them. However, flying with other airlines does not guarantee honesty either... Airlines, perhaps with the exception of Iran Air other few, are corporation seeking profit. They will do whatever possible to maximize their profit. Therefore, honesty is out the window. I guess what I am trying to say is that there is not much of a difference by putting money in the private organizations' pockets or Iran Air.
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    I fly Turkish to Iran. Twice they have damaged my suitcase beyond repair. Complaints have met with excuses.
    I have no idea what the baggage handlers do to cause so much damage.

    Anyway, I still prefer Turkish to IranAir. At least when you ask for a glass of water they give it to you! And they don'tr serve you dinner with resentment.
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    Most of my Turkish flights went smoothly, i only had once case as they couldnt find one piece of my luggage so i went to their office at the airport and had to fill out a formular and application but fortunately they brought that baggage to my house 2 days later. Otherwise, i actually enjoy flying turkish, i understand the crew, they are friendly their fleet is a young fleet, last time i flew a brand new airbus and their landings are smoother than Lufthansa with all their so called greatness. Air France has been absolutely ok too. To me Lufthansas service can not keep up with their excellent reputation. I have never been impressed and the food on turkish is way better too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shahin2000 View Post
    They will do whatever possible to maximize their profit. Therefore, honesty is out the window. I guess what I am trying to say is that there is not much of a difference by putting money in the private organizations' pockets or Iran Air.
    Well from the Iranian perspective there is a huge difference here. Those other non iranian airlines are not involved in milking iranian people. I have no problem with them trying to make profit. After all there is no point flying people all around the world for free and without making profit but their profit doesnt go into iranian regimes pockets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shahin2000 View Post
    I have taken Iran Air in the past and have traveled with Turkish as well. I have heard of number complaints from Iranian passengers taking turkish airlines anywhere from losing their luggage, items being stolen from their bags... You are probably right, being Iran Air an airline run by the gov't... you are after all putting money in their pocket if you fly with them. However, flying with other airlines does not guarantee honesty either... Airlines, perhaps with the exception of Iran Air other few, are corporation seeking profit. They will do whatever possible to maximize their profit. Therefore, honesty is out the window. I guess what I am trying to say is that there is not much of a difference by putting money in the private organizations' pockets or Iran Air.
    Iran air has not made any profits in years ,so whatever money you spend on tickets with them helps them lose less money , it is the government bail out that has kept it it going without going bankrupt .

    Maintaining and keeping 30 plus years old planes in the air cost a lot of money ,also not having enough planes to fly ,apart from that they have the technical and tactical know how and expertise ,once they get their new planes they will start getting their well deserved old place back among top airlines .

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    Quote Originally Posted by oghabealborz View Post
    once they get their new planes they will start getting their well deserved old place back among top airlines .
    and I think that's what they plan too! It shows not only from the number of the planes they've ordered, but also from the types.

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