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    this is the difference between IR and the US.

    trump issues an executive order about nations who have hurt or have advocated death to the US and its people and the people of United States go to the airports to provide support for people from those countries.

    countries such as IR have propogated hate towards US and its government for nearly four decades and the people in IR have done nothing. Neither in Sudan, Somalia etc etc ...

    this is why leyaaghat e oona hamoon ali mafool o rohani o khatami hamin kos keshaast.

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    It's funny....clearly Trump thinks citizens of countries who's governments are only verbally hostile to the US, are worse than citizens of countries who've actually done the action of killing American people!

    and clearly Trump supporters have the same logic and reasoning! Well.... hope they are all satisfied!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bache Tehroon View Post
    They're openly speaking about military dominance and spreading of Islam via militaristic means.
    When and where? The last time I heard them talk about it, they were saying the military expenditure was only for defensive means!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bache Tehroon View Post
    Both should be on the list. However, the official governments of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are not (and haven't been) hostile towards the USA. That might play a factor as it should.

    In other words, the people of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are not free or encouraged to take a hostile position against the United States. Can't say the same about Iran.

    Iraq and Syria are exceptional situations because there is no rule of law in either country. I guess Somalia is the same.
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    Wrong. any countries Trump do personal business with not on the list.

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    personal business with Trump means American Jobs instead of American 'lives'.
    So from a businessman point of view it makes sense.

    China has made 'Business' its politics disregarding human rights, human lives, environment, democracy for the last 30 years and they are swallowing the world up.

    everything from your iPhone to your viagra, dildo, bookshelf, BBQ stand is made in China. Trump as a businessman wants to put America back in 'business'.

    Now, if he stops bombing Syria and changes US policy in Iraq (allowing shit es to do whatever the fuck they want and at the same time indirectly arming ISIS and jende-islam, etc etc to the teeth then really really hats off to him.

    if he ends up being an impotent cunt like obama that only created fake american jobs by selling arms worth of trillions of dollars to the persian gulf states and exposed his ass to the akhounds in IR then i will call him an asshole too.

    i think i wait and see.


    As far as the wall goes. I completely hate his rhetoric and bullshit about hispanic immigrants. yes, he needs to deport the criminal element. Yes he needs more ATF, FED presence to kill the drug trade but lets not forget many Americans some of them high up support his drug trade.

    so far:
    border policy in the south = bullshit
    blocking people from middle east to enter = excellent
    keeping his word = so far so good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyvan_pars View Post
    so far:
    border policy in the south = bullshit
    blocking people from middle east to enter = excellent
    keeping his word = so far so good.
    Wait until he starts to deport Iranians with American citizenship, then I'd like to see you say excellent or so far so good!

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    Good morning, cold and mostly cloudy here. Thanks god, the coffee is on!

    Incredibly beautiful to read how some Eyanians are hit by the famous so-called "The Mystery of Loving an Abuser" Syndrome!
    Let me repeat myself once again, the hell with the IRI and those fucking nasty mullahs but the clear part here is this;
    All the regimes that have stood up to the US are either taken out, their countries invaded, or now ravaged by civil war. IRIran has endured all that and still remains strong some-bloody-how!

    Dont ask me how?
    .... And please, do not start coming up with various explanation, I have heard all of these endless explanations and rationalizations!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sly View Post
    Wait until he starts to deport Iranians with American citizenship, then I'd like to see you say excellent or so far so good!
    never going to happen unless the Citizen has spent the last 20 years in IR in that case i say strip him/her off the citizenship.

    what you people need to understand is moving from that toilet to Europe, US, Canada and Australia is not something they 'OWE' us. forget about this old mentality that 'they' made the revolution and they 'owe' us oil money. i don't know why you left iran but i left because of persecution and because as an iranian citizen i had no rights on my own soil. First UK and then Canada 'allowed' me to stay on their soil and canada said:

    'hey we know you are not from here and we know your parents have not paid taxes here or contributed anything but since you guys are all here now and living in safety and respecting the rights of 'OTHER HUMAN BEINGS' we will, in time, grant you to have exactly the same rights as those who have been here for generations.'

    this is citizenship not piece of fucking paper that helps you hop over security lines at airports.

    My sister became an internal medicine specialist in this country. In fucking IR she was being harrased in grade school because of her family name. Now dual citizenship ...

    I saw make it CRIMINAL to have dual citizenship of IR and canada. But dual citizenship of Canada and Sweden, well why not. you call that racism i call that humane and logical

    nobody owes you shit in life. you fucking have to get it.

    our older generations, either, took part, or stood by, when a bunch of joojeh communist and bache kooni akhound took over in Iran. It became IR and everyone in the world was happy maybe except richard nixon and anvar sadaat because they believed Shah was good human.

    everyone started getting khar savaari from our oil and resources and on the outside AHMAGHs like president AN pretended IR is fighting zionism while half the akounds running IR are jews if you go three generations back.

    what we need to do, if we can, is to wake up and smell the coffee. politics aside, socially , we as individuals have to stop thinking everyone owes us shit.

    our parents and grand parents let this abomination happen and somehow we are paying for it. i know it is unfair but hey the world is not fucking fair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keyvan_pars View Post
    never going to happen unless the Citizen has spent the last 20 years in IR in that case i say strip him/her off the citizenship.

    what you people need to understand is moving from that toilet to Europe, US, Canada and Australia is not something they 'OWE' us. forget about this old mentality that 'they' made the revolution and they 'owe' us oil money. i don't know why you left iran but i left because of persecution and because as an iranian citizen i had no rights on my own soil. First UK and then Canada 'allowed' me to stay on their soil and canada said:

    'hey we know you are not from here and we know your parents have not paid taxes here or contributed anything but since you guys are all here now and living in safety and respecting the rights of 'OTHER HUMAN BEINGS' we will, in time, grant you to have exactly the same rights as those who have been here for generations.'

    this is citizenship not piece of fucking paper that helps you hop over security lines at airports.

    My sister became an internal medicine specialist in this country. In fucking IR she was being harrased in grade school because of her family name. Now dual citizenship ...

    I saw make it CRIMINAL to have dual citizenship of IR and canada. But dual citizenship of Canada and Sweden, well why not. you call that racism i call that humane and logical

    nobody owes you shit in life. you fucking have to get it.

    our older generations, either, took part, or stood by, when a bunch of joojeh communist and bache kooni akhound took over in Iran. It became IR and everyone in the world was happy maybe except richard nixon and anvar sadaat because they believed Shah was good human.

    everyone started getting khar savaari from our oil and resources and on the outside AHMAGHs like president AN pretended IR is fighting zionism while half the akounds running IR are jews if you go three generations back.

    what we need to do, if we can, is to wake up and smell the coffee. politics aside, socially , we as individuals have to stop thinking everyone owes us shit.

    our parents and grand parents let this abomination happen and somehow we are paying for it. i know it is unfair but hey the world is not fucking fair.
    You left Iran because of not getting fair and equal rights! You left to countries where they provided that! Sorry to say but what Trump is doing, is taking away that equal rights that you were seeking back then! What he's doing to certain citizens is what IR did to you! It has nothing to do with them owing or not owing us anything! It's simply lack of basic human rights!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arash_Tombangir View Post
    Good morning, cold and mostly cloudy here. Thanks god, the coffee is on!

    Incredibly beautiful to read how some Eyanians are hit by the famous so-called "The Mystery of Loving an Abuser" Syndrome!
    Let me repeat myself once again, the hell with the IRI and those fucking nasty mullahs but the clear part here is this;
    All the regimes that have stood up to the US are either taken out, their countries invaded, or now ravaged by civil war. IRIran has endured all that and still remains strong some-bloody-how!

    Dont ask me how?
    .... And please, do not start coming up with various explanation, I have heard all of these endless explanations and rationalizations!
    The only problem I have is DurkaSaudi and DuraPakistan got a free pass. @Sly again I basically said the same thing as you a few posts ago. The more I think about it people are saying "Oh Americans are finally waking up." Well the way I see it, "Americans are getting conned by a conman.? Now I am not saying the Hildabeast is good but Americans are going to wake up and it is going to be too dam late. His Presidency is going to be about as productive and good as a degree from Trump University. BTW I am not saying you I am saying in general and ya nobody likes the IR, I have been pretty vocal about that, more than most Don't say I didn't warn you my fellow Americans! His Presidency is going to be about as legit and productive as a degree from Trump University.

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    IR (goozhalic republic) won't be able to believe their luck. Trump and his supporters need a bogeyman, and nothing is more full of bogey than IR.

    Trump and Bibi will consolidate the more shitty (Dr An) "nationalistic" IR cogs into the siege mentality that backwards regimes thrive in, the slow erosion of IR will reverse with newly nationalised "youth", and we will get a new global attrition war to occupy internet message boards, alt-right, gooz-chap etc...

    "Educated" people who voted Trump for "something different" to "shake up the system" are espousing the same logic as "educated" iranians who wanted khomeini in to "shake up the system". Except with Trump, they're going to get a lot more status quo. What did Freud say about masochism in humans...?
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    akhe, I'm just wondering, what were you guys expecting?

    The US has been a nation moving towards fascism since Nixon. Reagan was a fascist, Trump is just Reagan on Steroids. The US doesn't give a damn about its own people, case in point white working class forgotten about in Michigan, Wisconin etc. for years unemployed and left towards rotting in shitty areas and black people left to rot in prisons or from drugs. They don't care about their own people, why should they care about fucking immigrants?


    Check this part:

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1182

    and go to 10) (miscellaneous) and then section f)

    (f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President
    Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.
    What Trump has been doing has been part of the U.S. Code. and he is allowed to do it. You don't like it? Well, this is the country. You have been sleepwalking.

    The point is nothing Trump has passed so far is in any form or shape new, out of this world, un-American or whatever. It is perfectly within the framework and totally just a continuation of where the US has been moving towards.

    Except now Trump is the true face of America, and neither a charismatic black guy, nor a charismatic southern white guy, nor a former actor, nor a dumbwit from Texas. Trump is the bully from New York who doesn't give a shit because he feels like he shouldn't.

    Live with it for the next 8 years and have fun.

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    and I'm seriously outraged that Canadian-Iranians are not affected by the ban. This is a joke! You need to fart in Canada once to get a passport.

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    For the holier than thous and the antarlectuals - you're all still kaleh siahs. I'm sure bannon and his like give a Fuck that you made a joke about Khomeini once and pretend to be socialists when going out of your way to pay no tax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatso View Post
    For the holier than thous and the antarlectuals - you're all still kaleh siahs.
    It reminds of the movie Pianist i watched. where I think in Hungary or Czech republic jews were partitioned off into their own ghetto with a wall by the Nazzies.

    a group of Jews who were appointed as internal cops thought it is something wrong their people had done. and were in many cases more aggressive than Nazzi officers against their own people.

    the comparison is not entirely accurate. but believe I have lived in the American south. it does not matter what you think. people who are prejudiced, do not care if you dress in a western fashion; you bleed red white and blue. they look at your facial structure.

    they are like this guys looks that indian guy who took my job; he looks like that dangerous guy on TV 8000 miles away that shouts something threatening into the camera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaharMahal View Post
    It reminds of the movie Pianist i watched. where I think in Hungary or Czech republic jews were partitioned off into their own ghetto with a wall by the Nazzies.

    a group of Jews who were appointed as internal cops thought it is something wrong their people had done. and were in many cases more aggressive than Nazzi officers against their own people.

    the comparison is not entirely accurate. but believe I have lived in the American south. it does not matter what you think. people who are prejudiced, do not care if you dress in a western fashion; you bleed red white and blue. they look at your facial structure.

    they are like this guys looks that indian guy who took my job; he looks like that dangerous guy on TV 8000 miles away that shouts something threatening into the camera.
    I guess that's what you are talking about.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judenrat

    Hannah Arendt called them Hitler's willing unwilling helpers in the Holocaust. They thought if only they would cooperate with Nazis, their life will be spared while everyone else will be killed.

    Take this as a parabola for anything you like with regards to the current situation.

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