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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahdi View Post
    Couple of things:

    1) The UK could have decided on who comes in and who goes out with or without the EU. Same way Austria and Germany decide who comes into the country from outside of the EU, the UK could have done the same and was actually doing the same. Bright talents were never hindered to come to the UK from anywhere, and if anything, the UK will become now less attractive due to not being part of Europe.

    The fact that Polish and Romanian workers came to the UK and had rights like other EU citizens, is something you might complain about as a Pakistani or Iranian, but then again, there was a reason they came to the UK in the first place, which is that the UK had a demand for these workers. And frankly, Polish workers for construction, carpenters, truck drivers are simply better educated than say Pakistani ones.
    Same way, lots of Eastern German citizens are currently working in Switzerland as they get paid much more than in Germany. It's a give and take. The only thing Polish workers did to the UK was pay taxes. It was a non-zero-sum-game.

    2) The main reason UK was attractive over the past 20-30 years for big banks was being part of the EU. Whether you like it or not, the UK will lose some banks as they will not be able to trade and clear Euro denominated bonds in the UK anymore. No one knows how many will leave, but there will be people leaving. Brexit will have a toll on the UK housing market, which has been a big part of the wealth for British citizens.
    Bro THANK you so much and I agree with you 100% and DR JAN great sources about the UK's economy so I WAS right. I just wanted to let everyone know, I arrived home safely from Mexico and enjoyed speinding time with my Babooskha for a couple of days. UK is going to lose it's attractiveness because good workers are going to no longer be in the UK. The East German or GDR situation was also different, they were leaving CCCP 2.0 aka DDR. The UK is going to lose some of it's luster, bright minds and another nation will get the BRAIN DRAIN affect. Polish German, Iranian, Indian etc will all now go elsewhere and other nations will be the beneficiary of smart and educated workers. Also, as Doctor pointed out it does not matter if you are East German/Polish or Iranian/Indian, the English are equal opportunity BIGOTS! If you are not from a certain part of UK or have a title, from a well to do fam, then you are fighting an uphill battle. I got this information FROM people in the UK and I visited there multiple times. I JUST SPOKE with a lovely young UK couple on a flight to Mexico about this and they basically said the same thing. BTW Yes the reason why Germans and Polish came to the UK was because of COMMUNISM. Indians and Iranians, different story. Iranians because of the IR and Indians because India is a shithole. BTW Indians are successful in EVERY part of the world, except for INDIA, with the exception of a few big dogs.

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    @Mahdi jan like I mentioned before, UK is being stupid because they are losing great minds. Countries like Poland, Germany(well back then DDR), Iran and India would educate their people for free. Those people would head west to the UK because one can make more money, especially in those countries I mentioned. Dr jan pointed this out and so did I, it is English bigotry but what do you expect with a system which has a House of Lords and a House of Commons. I was just discussing this topic with a lovely young couple, from the UK, they were from Surry so we had a bond. Anyways, the UK is going to lose on it's consumer based economy and it is not as big as people think. I poisted before that the BP is already down from 1.7 to 1.29 to the USD. I say those racist teabaggers have everything coming to them and then some: for everything they did in the past, what they are doing today and what they PLAN to do in the future. Obrytz tu Menya UK! Oh and you are right about Deutschland, Australia and UK btw came back from Aust and NZ 6 months ago, talk about a HAJJI PROBLEM, well same thing with DE. UK, DE can allow anyone they want to come in, regardless of what the poosy socialist EU thinks. However, I sort of saw this coming I saw the anti foreigner rhetoric and it does not matter if you are German or Indian, the English are equal opportunity racists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Strangemoosh View Post
    My point is that you are basing nothing on evidence. It is all fairytales and "faith" and "hope". It is a very simple point and you have ignored it completely, concentrating on my simile instead of the content of my post (i.e. deflecting the argument). You haven't answered a single point with proper evidence and then you concentrate on my simile and have the chutzpah to call my argument "intellectually inept"....!?

    Bankers are already leaving and banks are already moving, what do you mean " that is not going to happen." It is ALREADY HAPPENING. Where is your evidence to the contrary? I don't want vague comments, I don't want "believe in this". What is this fairytale Britain that you're describing?
    Let me flip this around. What evidence do you have that in the long run the EU will not be a disaster? Why are you any more knowledgable about the future than I am? I often hear arrogant Remoaners say: "Brexiteers didn't know what they were voting for". What a load of shlt. I ask the opposite question, did the Remoaners know what they were voting for? Do they know what the EU has in store for them in the future? What makes you less ignorant than me?

    Sure there might be some short-term pain of Brexit, but in the long term I am sure my children will be much better off.
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    Keyvan.
    You tried but did a terrible job of connecting gooz and shaghigheh.

    Why should someone from Slovenia or Poland walk in here and have an advantage over someone from Iran or India or Australia, simply because he/she belongs to an arbitrary political and economic Union? Whatever happened to merit? Contrary to how they like to advertise the EU, is not an open market. It's a restrictive market, limited to citizens of member states.

    The EU reminds me of the line in George Orwell's Animal Farm: "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".
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    well bruv,
    i guess we are at a little bit of a deadlock here.

    lets wait a few years and see how you guys fare now that you are free of the shackles of Euro.

    selling weapons to bullshit middle eastern camels does not count as exports. i am saying that ahead of time.

    as well as, licking trumps balls to throw a half eaten bone.

    i guess we ll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keyvan_pars View Post
    well bruv,

    as well as, licking trumps balls to throw a half eaten bone.

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    Absolutely correct on the middle east part, that's the only way forward now for this country to have relevance.


    From speaking to American bankers on both sides of the political spectrum, they don't give a shit about the UK any more. UK's geopolitical strength has been powered by America's general view of UK as the rational, pragmatic Europeans they want to do business with.

    Losing banks, bankers and industries as a direct consequence of UK leaving the EU doesn't give them the best sign. Now they see us as backward, regressive, not the "open for trade" pipedream that the Brexiters thought they would see us as. Trump is keeping up appearances at the moment because he wants to have the UK's military power available in case of a war, but beyond that I think they are getting their french and german phrasebooks out, and learning a bit of gaelic too perhaps.

    It's like England deciding to leave FIFA because of it's corruption and backwardness. Outstanding, you are free from Fifa's shackles! But who the fuck would want to play you now?

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    To say Britain is "not open for trade" because of Brexit is stupid and irrelevant. If anything, Britain will no longer be restricted by the EU and can go out and make its own deals with everyone.

    Don't forget, there are plenty of European companies that have a lot at stake here too. They want a good deal because they don't want their trade with Britain to be damaged.

    I guess we just have to wait and see. But I am confident Britain will come out of this better than most people think.
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    Today's banking news:

    https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/35480957...-brexit/#page1


    The largest global banks in London plan to move about 9,000 jobs to the continent in the next two years, public statements and information from sources show, as the exodus of finance jobs starts to take shape.

    Last week Standard Chartered and JPMorgan were the latest global banks to outline plans for their European operations after Brexit. They are among a growing number of lenders pushing ahead with plans to move operations from London. Goldman Sachs chief executive Lloyd Blankfein said in an interview on Friday that London's growth as a financial centre could "stall" as a result of the upheaval caused by Brexit.

    Thirteen major banks including Goldman Sachs, UBS, and Citigroup have indicated of how they would bulk up their operations in Europe to secure market access to the European Union's single market when Britain leaves the bloc. Talks with financial authorities in Europe have been underway for several months, but banks are increasingly firming up plans to move staff and operations.

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    Bank of America this week:
    https://www.americanbanker.com/artic...e-after-brexit

    "B of A views Dublin as its default destination for a new hub inside the European Union if Brexit means the U.K. loses easy access to the single market, according to one of the firm's top executives in Germany. The bank will likely move some jobs to other cities across the EU, including Frankfurt, Madrid, Luxembourg and Amsterdam

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    Frankfurt lays claims to banks fleeing the UK post-Brexit:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-br...-idUSKBN1811GA

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    Mostly scare tactics to make Brexit look like a mistake (to prevent others from going their own way).

    UK will not lose its significance. No sane American or Chinese bank is going to put its eggs in a French, German or Italian basket. Sure, a few reorgs and personnel moves will happen, but major capital will not flow out of England to go to EU.

    Having more bank buildings is not a sign of economical prosperity. The 100,000 or so people employed by these banks and their related ventures are pretty much irrelevant. England is still a far superior immigration destination for most investors and workers than places like France, Germany or Italy. Culture, language and history play a part too. There's more to desirability of a place than tall bank buildings and finance operations, otherwise, Panama would be the #1 destination for immigration.

    England will be fine. EU won't be.


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    For now we can only speculate but I understand UK history and Dr jan is filling me in on tabloid racism, thank you Dr jan. It is going to get worse and they have everything coming to them, fooking teabaggers. Like I said UK's economy/GDP is consumer driven and the BP already took a hit plus Brasil just passed them up. As for Mahdi jan's point I mentioned people from Europe, Iran and India would used to go to UK even Germans but mainly Eastern Europeaners like Polish. Countries like Poland, Iran and India would educate them and UK used to get FREE educated people. Those days are GONE now but time will tell what LONG TERM impacts this Brixx fiasco will have. My prediction is not good and God Shave the Queen, nice Germanic Royal Family

 

 
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