Are Assad's days numbered?

ME

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Looks like his end as a leader is pretty close. After him, hezbollah won't be able to sustain its logistical needs anymore. It won't take more than 6 months before they degenerate into something of much less significance. At that point they will be eliminated or more likely bought by some political incentives.

IRI should be shitting in their pants now. In summary, they have now a failed diplomacy, no allies, the nuclear mess, a nose-diving economy, public discordance and hate, frozen income, military threat from all 4 corners, sworn enemies in Israel and SA and other arab states, ethnic agitation, and more importantly a failed doctorine. That is maybe why they are bringing out their reformist cards to play everyone once again. I doubt it will work this time though.
 
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Looks like his end as a leader is pretty close. After him, hezbollah won't be able to sustain its logistical needs anymore. It won't take more than 6 months before they degenerate into something of much less significance. At that point they will be eliminated or more likely bought by some political incentives.

IRI should be shitting in their pants now. In summary, they have now a failed diplomacy, no allies, the nuclear mess, a nose-diving economy, public discordance and hate, frozen income, military threat from all 4 corners, sworn enemies in Israel and SA and other arab states, ethnic agitation, and more importantly a failed doctorine. That is maybe why they are bringing out their reformist cards to play everyone once again. I doubt it will work this time though.
به نظر من با سقوط اسد
حزب الله تنها برای مدت محدودی تا پیدا کردن راه های دیگری برای دریافت سلاح تحت فشار قرار خواهد گرفت
ولی ایران یکی از حلفای مهم خود در منطقه را از دست خواهد داد
البته در طی این چند سال می توان گفت عراق جایگزین خوبی بوده
البته این باز در صورت سقوط بشار اسد است
که فکر نکنم به این زودی ها این امر واقع شود زیرا هنوز ارتش سوریه از اسد پیروی میکند و به نظر نمی رسد که در اینده نزدیک سرپیچی کند
ممکن است یک کودتاه رخ رهد یا بشار اسد را ترور کنند
ولی باز فکر نکنم ارتش با مخالفان رژیم کنار بیاید زیرا ارتش سوریه کاملا با عقاید مخالفان اسد مخالف است
به نظر می رسد تا یک ارتش خارجی مثل ناتو وارد کار نشود همین اش و همین کاسه است
ولی ناتو هم جرات انرا ندارد که الان دست به کار شود
شاید اگر در ارتش سوریه خللی ایجاد شود انوقت ناتو دست بکار شود ولی الان ممکن نیست
چون هم چین و هم روسیه هنوز از اسد طرفداری میکنند و از طرف دیگر اگر کار به جایی برسد که اسد واقعا تحت فشار قرار بگیرد فکر میکنم ایران و حزب الله مستقیما دخالت خواهند کرد
 
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Maybe what Intellectual older Iranian say is true. That when US decides that it is to their economic and other interests and act on it, they get rid of a government. And they have preserved Iranian regime as they need it as enemy in the region to sell weapons, and control the masses of muslims who think through a book rather than the reality of the universe in front of them.

You want to control the masses of muslims and get them more controlled under clerics, burn a book, make a cartoon. Like Sheep they will follow.

Looks like his end as a leader is pretty close. After him, hezbollah won't be able to sustain its logistical needs anymore. It won't take more than 6 months before they degenerate into something of much less significance. At that point they will be eliminated or more likely bought by some political incentives.

IRI should be shitting in their pants now. In summary, they have now a failed diplomacy, no allies, the nuclear mess, a nose-diving economy, public discordance and hate, frozen income, military threat from all 4 corners, sworn enemies in Israel and SA and other arab states, ethnic agitation, and more importantly a failed doctorine. That is maybe why they are bringing out their reformist cards to play everyone once again. I doubt it will work this time though.
 

Behrooz_C

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این اسد و رژیم سوریه هم مثل جمهوری اسلامی زورش فقط به مردم بدبخت خودش میرسه. الان چند دهه است که اسراییل بلندی های گولان را اشغال کرده و ساختو پاخت کرده و سوریه و اسد هیچ گهی نتونستند بخورند. ولی تا مردم خودشون جیکشون در امد زدند قتل عام کردند. میگم که درست مثل جمهوری اسلامی.
از طرفی هم ناگفته نماند که دلیل اصلی این شورش همان بود که موجب شورش در تونس شد. حال ان چه بود؟ عاقلان دانند
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LOL. Hitting the General back with his own font and style. Like it.

این اسد و رژیم سوریه هم مثل جمهوری اسلامی زورش فقط به ملت خودش میرسه. الان چند دهه است که اسراییل بلندی های گولان را اشغال کرده و ساختو پاخت کرده و سوریه و اسد هیچ گهی نتونستند بخورند. ولی تا مردم خودشون جیکشون در امد زدند قتل عام کردند. میگم که درست مثل جمهوری اسلامی.
از طرفی هم ناگفته نماند که دلیل اصلی این شورش همان بود که موجب شورش در تونس شد. حال ان چه بود؟ عاقلان دانند
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Behrooz_C

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لرد جان. باور کنید من میتوانم بیشترهم بگم ولی میترسم رژیم های منطقه یکی یکی سقوط کنند. آنوقت جواب رهبر را چه کسی باید بدهد؟
اشکالی نداره، الان خود رهبر میاد و براتون توضیح میده که چطور اسراییل از دست حزب الله بیچاره شده و اینکه هنوز گولان اشغال است یک تصمیم استراتژیک رژیم قدرتمند ایران و سوریه است.
بله جانم.
 
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I don't think "Assad's days are numbered" is sufficient to describe the fast crumbling of card-board palace of the assad dynasty, "Assad's hours are numbered" is more likely. ;D

The situation in Syria is so grim that assad regime can not even protect its own regime high ranking officials any more. Yesterday Syrian Defense minister general Dawoud Rajeh, Deputy Defense minister Asef Shawkat (Bashaar's brother inlaw) and former Defence minister, present day head of the "Crisis Cell" major general Hassan Al-Turkmani who also was assistant/adviser in domestic crisis affair to Vice president Farou Al-Sharia were all killed in a blast right in the heart of central Damascus located short distance away from presidential palace.

This is a full blown civil war which only Russia, China and IRI have their heads in their rectum and stubbornly refuse to accept the word civil war. There are 3 requirements for any party to win a civil war and they are "people, guns and money". assad has lost majority of the people, money is running out pretty fast and now only has the guns and to what extent he will use them is yet to be seen.

There is a serious concern regarding Syrian crisis which many people unknowingly overlook and Russia, China and IRI knowingly and selfishly remain oblivious toward it and that is Syria's massive stockpile of chemical weapons. People around the world (specially in Middle East), UN particularly, EU or even Nato should be actively concern about this danger and make sure this WMD does not fall into wrong hands, otherwise a (or more) future ugly and major catastrophe will be inevitable.

Unsubstantiated report are surfacing now that assad is moving his inner-circle figures and his CW to Homs, do you think he may be thinking about and anticipating a near future independent Alewite State?
 

ME

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^^^

Sure, an Alawite state is what he might agree on now, but because he is labled with war crimes I doubt they will let him go once he loses any power.
 

artavile

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I am surprised that rebels within the Syrian liberation army have not yet targeted Ass-ad's backers inside Syria. One would think there must be many political and military "advisors" (AKA mercenaries) from Russia, China and IR are directly or indirectly involved with crushing the uprising.

I have a feeling Ass-ad will become a major liability to Russia (maybe the only place he can go to) since there are not that many places he can go to and will end up assasinated by someone to contain the situation. I love to see him captured though and brought to justice but don't see that happening at all...in any case good luck to Syrian people.

Our turn will come again......
 

beystr 2.0

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Some say.....Turkey provided the inteligence and logistic for this latest bombing of the HQ.....suppose a quick pay back for the shooting of the F4.....oh well...Asad the Arabian Marie Antoinette.. lol....aka...Loui the (16 -14 )th ..
 
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I don't think "Assad's days are numbered" is sufficient to describe the fast crumbling of card-board palace of the assad dynasty, "Assad's hours are numbered" is more likely. ;D

The situation in Syria is so grim that assad regime can not even protect its own regime high ranking officials any more. Yesterday Syrian Defense minister general Dawoud Rajeh, Deputy Defense minister Asef Shawkat (Bashaar's brother inlaw) and former Defence minister, present day head of the "Crisis Cell" major general Hassan Al-Turkmani who also was assistant/adviser in domestic crisis affair to Vice president Farou Al-Sharia were all killed in a blast right in the heart of central Damascus located short distance away from presidential palace.

This is a full blown civil war which only Russia, China and IRI have their heads in their rectum and stubbornly refuse to accept the word civil war. There are 3 requirements for any party to win a civil war and they are "people, guns and money". assad has lost majority of the people, money is running out pretty fast and now only has the guns and to what extent he will use them is yet to be seen.

There is a serious concern regarding Syrian crisis which many people unknowingly overlook and Russia, China and IRI knowingly and selfishly remain oblivious toward it and that is Syria's massive stockpile of chemical weapons. People around the world (specially in Middle East), UN particularly, EU or even Nato should be actively concern about this danger and make sure this WMD does not fall into wrong hands, otherwise a (or more) future ugly and major catastrophe will be inevitable.

Unsubstantiated report are surfacing now that assad is moving his inner-circle figures and his CW to Homs, do you think he may be thinking about and anticipating a near future independent Alewite State?
He's a monster but not really much of a sectarian.
 

Zob Ahan

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If Assad's removal wouldn't help the toppling of IR I would have preferred him over the Salafis that are likely to replace him. However since his removal almost guarantees IR's demise I can't wait for him getting the boot. I have a feeling it won't be as quick as most think.
 
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china and russia vetoed again at the un today.3rd time slapping nato resolutions.iran & russia have drawn a line in the sand in syria and are daring nato to cross it.i doubt they will do it.costs too much in blood and treasure.
 

beystr 2.0

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I'd say..... NaATO had asked China & Russia to Veto....This will serve both of them..NATO bikAr nist ke for free get involve in some nasty thing...Hich kas hAzer nist be Andaze Qaddafi pool bezAre vasat.....so on goes the bloodshed for a while...tA Qatari hA sar keessaro shol konan....don't be fooled by Chinese or Ruski's shAmote bAzi...eenA har dooshoon khaili karkose tar az inan ke vAse Bashar Asad yek ham chi gherti bAzi rA bendAzan....
 
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به نظر من با سقوط اسد
حزب الله تنها برای مدت محدودی تا پیدا کردن راه های دیگری برای دریافت سلاح تحت فشار قرار خواهد گرفت
ولی ایران یکی از حلفای مهم خود در منطقه را از دست خواهد داد
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Maybe hezbollah will move to Iran to help IRI against internal thread. Where else could they stay? In that case US will ask UN to help- Russia or china would avoid direct confrontation with US.
 

khodam

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I don't think Assad would go this easily. And if he is removed, soon most will be wishing he wasn't. Syria is a completely different country than Egypt or Iraq or even Libya. If Assad is gone the country will burn in a way that these days will look like peaceful times.
 
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این حمله ارتش ازاد سوریه به دمشق می تواند دو علت داشته باشد
یک یا اینکه این ارتش انقدر قدرت دارد که می تواند قسمت هایی از شهر دمشق را تصرف کند که به نظر من بعید به نظر می رسد چون ارتش سوریه هلیکوپتر دارد و برای انها بسیار سخت است که این کار را انجام دهند
دو شاید بخاطر اینکه جلسه سازمان ملل بوده عده ای از انها به دمشق امده اند تا شکلی نشان دهدن که به نظر برسد اخرین روزهایی بشار اسد است و روسیه و چین وتو نکنند
البته روزهای اینده روشن خواهد کرد که کدام از این دو دلیل بوده که ارتش ازاد سوریه به دمشق حمله کرده
اگر دلیل شماره یک باشد بشار اسد بزودی سقوط خواهد کرد منظور از بزودی چند ساعت یا چند روز نیست ولی ممکن است در ند هفته اینده همه چیز بر ضد او عوض شود
اگر دلیل دوم باشد باید گفت که ارتش ازاد سوریه به بن بست رسیده است و کم کم نابود خواهد شد
 
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Maybe hezbollah will move to Iran to help IRI against internal thread. Where else could they stay? In that case US will ask UN to help- Russia or china would avoid direct confrontation with US.
جناب
حزب الله که یک نفر دو نفر نیستند
بیش از نیمی از مردم لبنان حزب الله هستند البته اگر منظورتان افراد رزمی انها است خود ایران انقدر بسیجی و موتوری و چماقی دارد که اینها در بین انها گم می شوند
 
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Khalayegh har che layegh


[h=3]منبع حکومتی: موقعیت ناگوار ایرانیان مقیم دمشق[/h]جمهوری اسلامی اتباع خود را از سوریه خارج نکرده است
دیگربان: سایت محافظه***کار «پارسینه» نسبت به موقعیت «ناگوار» ایرانیان مقیم دمشق هشدار داد و اعلام کرد مقام***های جمهوری اسلامی و سوریه به درخواست***های این افراد برای بازگشت به ایران بی***اعتنایی می***کنند.
این سایت روز پنجشنبه (۲۹ تیر) نوشته که مخالفان بشار اسد در مساجد سوریه اعلام «جهاد» کرده*** و به تهدید «علویان» و «شیعیان» مقیم دمشق روی آورده***اند.
«پارسینه» نوشته است: «شیعیان ایرانی مقیم دمشق به خاطر این تهدید با مراجعه به فرودگاه بین***المللی دمشق خواستار بازگشت به ایران شده***اند، اما این درخواست پاسخی جدی دریافت نکرده است.»
آن***طور که این سایت نوشته است٬ مسئولان فرودگاه دمشق به ایرانی***ها اعلام کرده***اند «در صورتی که هر یک از آن***ها ۳۰۰ دلار پرداخت کنند»٬ احتمال دارد در روز***های آینده پروازی به سمت ایران در نظر گرفته شود.
«پارسینه» گزارش کرده است: «تا این لحظه هواپیمایی از سوی ایران برای بازگرداندن ایرانیان به دمشق عازم نشده است و هم***اکنون ایرانیان به همراه خانواده***های خود در فرودگاه دمشق بلاتکلیف مانده***اند.»
اوضاع سوریه به خصوص دمشق پس از انفجار مهیب روز گذشته در این شهر که منجر به کشته شدن وزیر دفاع این کشور شد٬ بحرانی گزارش می***شود.
برخی رسانه***ها نیز از خروج مردم از دمشق خبر می***دهند٬ اما سایت «پارسینه» تنها سایت محافظه***کاری است که به بی***اعتنایی مقام***های جمهوری اسلامی در خصوص جان ایرانیان مقیم این سوریه انتقاد می***کند.
مقام***های جمهوری اسلامی با آغاز درگیری***ها در سوریه از این کشور با عنوان «خط مقاومت» یاد کرده و فرماندهان سپاه قدس نیز حضور نیرو***های خود در درگیری***های این کشور را تائید کرده***اند.