Argentina vs Iran against British Royal Navy

ashtar

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On April 2, 1982 Argentina invaded and occupied the Falkland Islands, followed by the invasion of South Georgia the next day. On 5 April, the British government dispatched a naval task force to engage the Argentine Navy and Air Force before making an amphibious assault on the islands. The conflict lasted 74 days and ended with the Argentine surrender on 14 June, returning the islands to British control.

While there were many reasons for Argentina's defeat one of the main reasons provided by many experts was Argentinian military's reliance on France and their betrayal of the Argentinians in favor of the British:

French president François Mitterrand gave full support to the UK in the Falklands war. As a large part of Argentina's military equipment was French-made, French support was crucial. France provided aircraft, identical to the ones it supplied to Argentina, for British pilots to train against. France provided intelligence to help sabotage the Exocet missiles it sold to Argentina. In her memoirs, Margaret Thatcher remarked of Mitterrand that "I never forgot the debt we owed him for his personal support … throughout the Falklands Crisis." Sir John Nott, who was UK Secretary of State for Defense during the conflict later acknowledged: "In so many ways Mitterrand and the French were our greatest allies." https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Falklands_War

The conflict against Iran is an entirely different challenge for the "great" British Royal Navy given Iranian military, both in defense and offense, is almost completely independent of any possible betraying foreign power and that's not to mention Iran's extensive, lethal and cutting edge anti-ship missiles:

In 2014, Iran also unveiled a a faster (Mach 4) anti-radiation variant of the Khalij Fars called the Hormuz-1 and -2 designed to home-in on land- and sea-based radars respectively—possibly the world’s first anti-radiation ballistic missiles. An anti-radiation missile turns a warship’s greatest defensive advantage—it’s powerful radars—into a vulnerability by homing in on it for guidance. A ship can de-activate its radar to break the lock, but then leave itself exposed to other threats.
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/b...rans-missiles-they-could-strike-us-navy-57832

While the British navy or indeed any a coalition of foreign navies may be able to overwhelm, destroy and sink Iranian vessels in the Persian Gulf their defenses will still be dwarfed and pale compared to Iran's nearly 1500 mile coastal line and offensive power nearly 400 miles deep which essentially turns Iran into a stationary yet unsinkable and un-destroyable destroyer compared to the vulnerable and sinkable vessels floating in the waters of Persian Gulf. While an aircraft carrier and its fleet may seem like a giant compared to even the largest Iranian vessel, compared to the Iranian coastline and its fire power it is merely an unimpressive midget.


 
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British naval capability has been seriously underfunded and depleted over the last 20 years. Many of the battleships were decommissioned and never replaced following the Falklands War.

Britain doesn't rule the waves like it used to do.

As for the Falklands, they are over 400 miles away from the Argentina coast. They have always been British and will remain British. It was British before Argentina even existed.

As for Iran, of course Iran has the upper hand in its own backyard. It's not like Argentina and the Falklands.
 
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the Comparison is uncalled for. yet the article is correct to point out that iran does have the unique advantage that its supply chain is sourced locally.

that said, defending a position is always easier than attacking one.

so the comparison is not at all apple to apples.

Argentina needs to project power at seat nearly 250 miles off their coast. while iran does not need to project power at sea.

but if it did it would be merely 150 km across the Persian Gulf.
 
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I guess the real measure of power for Iran is to do what US and Britain have done: station battleships to the North Sea or the Gulf of Mexico and patrol the area for years, then come back to brag.
Even China and Russia can't quite yet project power via their navies. it will be always a stupid idea for a country like iran with it's resources to seek power projection via a blue water navy.
 

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I guess the real measure of power for Iran is to do what US and Britain have done: station battleships to the North Sea or the Gulf of Mexico and patrol the area for years, then come back to brag.
very funny :LOL:
how else can that miserable rainy little island project power?
they can't get jiggy with anything without getting wet.
same with the usa unless they only want to invade canada or mexico:giggle:
iran can get to most of asia and europe on horses and they did back
when they wanted to do so.
 
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very funny :LOL:
how else can that miserable rainy little island project power?
they can't get jiggy with anything without getting wet.
same with the usa unless they only want to invade canada or mexico:giggle:
iran can get to most of asia and europe on horses and they did back
when they wanted to do so.
Haha....this is the same rainy little island that whiny little kids like you complain about all the time. Your Dae jan Napoleon complex comes from this little island you buffoon.

Britain has given democracy to over 40 countries, while your beloved Mullahs have only ever exported bloodshed, death, murder and war.

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Iksanihc

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IR against UK navy? What a joke. Britts are a nation of pirates, even their dead corpses are excellent sailors and shipmen. They will defeat that joke of an IR navy (if we can call it one at all) with their trash and old ships alone. They are still one of the biggest naval forces on earth. I tell you what, lets not talk about jokes like this, lets come down to earth. Saudi Air Force is the biggest and most powerful and modern Air Force of the region and their naval forces backed by that air force will destroy the IR naval forces within half a year. This is the level IR fans should be playing on. They are not even able to beat the Saudis anything else is way above their heads.
 
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rahim

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سفراى محترم جمهورى اسلامى در سايت وزين اى اس پى

توجه داشته باشيد كه بايد اول إمارات و سعودى ها رو تو مقدماتى بزنين كه برسيين يك چهارم با انگليس

تا اون موقع هم چندين محروم و مصدوم داديد و گلايه از نبود امكانات و داورى و دريا كج بود و انگليس از بيرون هدايت ميشد و .... اثرى نخواهند داشت
 
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