Catholic Church buries limbo after centuries

Makaveli

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anyone hear about this? after centuries the catholic church seems to have changed its mind saying that babies go to heaven instead of limbo

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Catholic Church buries limbo after centuries By Philip Pullella


VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - The Roman Catholic Church has effectively buried the concept of limbo, the place where centuries of tradition and teaching held that babies who die without baptism went.
In a long-awaited document, the Church's International Theological Commission said limbo reflected an "unduly restrictive view of salvation," according to the U.S.-based Catholic News Service, which obtained a copy on Friday.

The thumbs-down verdict on limbo had been expected for years and the document, called "The Hope of Salvation for Infants Who Die Without Being Baptised," was seen as most likely to be final since limbo was never formally part of Church doctrine.

Pope Benedict authorized the publication of the document.

According to the CNS report, the 41-page document says the theologians advising the Pope concluded that since God is merciful he "wants all human beings to be saved."

It says grace has priority over sin, and the exclusion of innocent babies from heaven does not seem to reflect Christ's special love for children, CNS, which is owned by the U.S. Catholic Bishops Conference, quoted the document as saying.

Limbo, which comes from the Latin word meaning "border" or "edge," was considered by medieval theologians to be a state or place reserved for the unbaptised dead, including good people who lived before the coming of Christ.

"Our conclusion is that the many factors that we have considered ... give serious theological and liturgical grounds for hope that unbaptised infants who die will be saved and enjoy the beatific vision (of God)," the document said, according to CNS which is part of the U.S. Catholic Bishops Conference.

The Church teaches that baptism removes original sin which stained all souls since the fall from grace in the Garden of Eden.

The commission has been working on the document for some time and members have said in the past that it would recommend that the concept of limbo be scrapped.

In writings before his election as Pope in 2005, the then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger made it clear he believed the concept of limbo should be abandoned because it was "only a theological hypothesis" and "never a defined truth of faith."

The Catholic Church's official catechism, issued in 1992 after decades of work, dropped the mention of limbo.

In his Divine Comedy, Dante placed virtuous pagans and great classical philosophers, including Plato and Socrates, in limbo.
 

AliMR

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lol... so since according to xtianity we are all sinful from birth, what happens to the kids who are born and then die in infancy? they go to hell? what a cruel god these xtians have... if the babies dont go to hell, then there isnt an original sin... if one is true, the other can tbe, thus, there is no logic behind this way of thinking.
 
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LOL of course the mentally ill and children go to a better place than politicians and criminals...
But I think this "heaven" that they are talking about is a good place in the Limbo. because no one will enter the heaven Before the day of Judgement and that is clear...
the limob can be made looking like hell or heaven depending who we're talking about but not the real heaven and hell ...

Also I recently learned that there is no such thing as ghost. these are jens who can change forms and make themselves look like any thing thety want...ghost or the ppl's spirit is not like loose and can go places they are kept in limbo until the J Day!


ah.. one more thing..there are those who have elevated to higher state of spirituality who have total control over their spirit. they can take their spirit out of their bodies and go places far beyong our univers (even) while their lifeless boies lays some place, but they have the God given power to come back to it at will.

these ppl's bodies do not decay after their death! Therre has been so many discoveries of bodies which have been dead for years may be even centuries but the bodies were intact.
I know of one catholic priest who died some 90 yeas ago bvut his body was exhumed and he look like he just died.. no decay or any thing...(I saw it on the tv show ''unsolved mysteries'')!
dont get me wrong, he was not recognized by the catholic business center to become a bishop bcs he had learning disabilities and couldnt learn latin...so the poor guy was sent to a remote village and so he was broken hearted that is wy God raised him to that level not bcs of his religion but faith along with broken heart.... that does it ever time lo l ;)