From Independent.
"One has to remember, that on a fundamental level, the revolt in Egypt isn't only an attempt to throw off the Mubarak dictatorship, it is also a direct challenge to Egypt's role as a vassal state inside the American Empire, a state that is 'stable', under control, and harmless to US interests in the region.
The Egyptian elite are really surrogates for US imperial power, the local, Egyptian face, of imperialism, Mubarak is, in essence, merely a brutal mask hiding the real face of Obama, so Obama can smile and make pretty, meaningless speeches - propaganda - whilst Mubarak is left to do the dirty work.
So, a defeat for Mubarak is a colossal defeat for US imperial strategy as well, and this is why the stakes are so high. Loose Egypt and, eventually, the rest of the region will follow, including the Gulf States, which would be a massive setback for imperialism.
The Egyptian people understand this too well. The Egyptians who hold up teargas cannisters stamped with the words 'made in the USA' can see where, ultimately, their oppression is coming from. Even their army isn't really an independent Egyptian army, it's an army designed to control them and defend US interests inside Egypt, defending the social order from the Egyptian people, not from any outside threat, but from the enemy within, the Egyptian people.
The reason this revolution could turn into a bloody civil war is because the Americans cannot allow freedom and democracy in Egypt to take hold. The US elite fears freedom and democracy, at home, and in the world. A country that is independent of the US empire and pursues its own national interests first, is automatically characterized as an enemy of the United States.
But will ordinary Egyptian soldiers obey their masters and openly oppress their own people, will they fire on their brothers and sisters? Will they go down fighting for Mubarak and his American masters? I doubt it very much. I think Mubarak has lost control of Egypt, and the longer he clings to power and the longer the United States supports him, the closer the Americans will come to loosing everything, and not just in Egypt."
"One has to remember, that on a fundamental level, the revolt in Egypt isn't only an attempt to throw off the Mubarak dictatorship, it is also a direct challenge to Egypt's role as a vassal state inside the American Empire, a state that is 'stable', under control, and harmless to US interests in the region.
The Egyptian elite are really surrogates for US imperial power, the local, Egyptian face, of imperialism, Mubarak is, in essence, merely a brutal mask hiding the real face of Obama, so Obama can smile and make pretty, meaningless speeches - propaganda - whilst Mubarak is left to do the dirty work.
So, a defeat for Mubarak is a colossal defeat for US imperial strategy as well, and this is why the stakes are so high. Loose Egypt and, eventually, the rest of the region will follow, including the Gulf States, which would be a massive setback for imperialism.
The Egyptian people understand this too well. The Egyptians who hold up teargas cannisters stamped with the words 'made in the USA' can see where, ultimately, their oppression is coming from. Even their army isn't really an independent Egyptian army, it's an army designed to control them and defend US interests inside Egypt, defending the social order from the Egyptian people, not from any outside threat, but from the enemy within, the Egyptian people.
The reason this revolution could turn into a bloody civil war is because the Americans cannot allow freedom and democracy in Egypt to take hold. The US elite fears freedom and democracy, at home, and in the world. A country that is independent of the US empire and pursues its own national interests first, is automatically characterized as an enemy of the United States.
But will ordinary Egyptian soldiers obey their masters and openly oppress their own people, will they fire on their brothers and sisters? Will they go down fighting for Mubarak and his American masters? I doubt it very much. I think Mubarak has lost control of Egypt, and the longer he clings to power and the longer the United States supports him, the closer the Americans will come to loosing everything, and not just in Egypt."
Anyone else catch on to this AFRIRAN character? 
Showed up out of the blue a few months ago, posting up a storm. Insists on writing in Farsi, and his broken English seems oddly familiar. Tries way too hard to present a distinct personality, referring to everyone as daash this and daash that. Usually posts a few words here and there against the regime for tactical purposes, but saves all of his venom for the reformers and takes every opportunity to "remind" us of their previous crimes. Strangely, he's not nearly as sensitive to the crimes presently committed by others.
On the recent execution:
Coincidentally, this is the same obsession with discrediting the Greens we saw in Sardar Ghandali's posts when the protests were going on.
He's even selling the exact same line on AN's election as a certain member, saying it was all legit because too many "simple-minded" villagers voted for him:
Note that this is exactly what a certain someone was saying in 2009. Just click on this name and read the post history. He even does the trademark brief one-line argument with his other account to throw people off.
khodeti aziz, khodeti.:hau:
Jenab ghandali, Sardar IQ, baba marizi boro doktor! akhe in site cheghadr moheme ke tow badbakht 24 saa'ate inja mashghoole anjam ma'mooriaate balatar az khatari? natars baba ISP gharar nist regimo sarnegoon koneh! nazdik khoone mahdekoodaki chizi nist beri did bezani haal koni?
Showed up out of the blue a few months ago, posting up a storm. Insists on writing in Farsi, and his broken English seems oddly familiar. Tries way too hard to present a distinct personality, referring to everyone as daash this and daash that. Usually posts a few words here and there against the regime for tactical purposes, but saves all of his venom for the reformers and takes every opportunity to "remind" us of their previous crimes. Strangely, he's not nearly as sensitive to the crimes presently committed by others.
On the recent execution:
Coincidentally, this is the same obsession with discrediting the Greens we saw in Sardar Ghandali's posts when the protests were going on.
He's even selling the exact same line on AN's election as a certain member, saying it was all legit because too many "simple-minded" villagers voted for him:
Note that this is exactly what a certain someone was saying in 2009.
Just click on this name and read the post history. He even does the trademark brief one-line argument with his other account to throw people off. khodeti aziz, khodeti.:hau:
Jenab ghandali, Sardar IQ, baba marizi boro doktor! akhe in site cheghadr moheme ke tow badbakht 24 saa'ate inja mashghoole anjam ma'mooriaate balatar az khatari? natars baba ISP gharar nist regimo sarnegoon koneh! nazdik khoone mahdekoodaki chizi nist beri did bezani haal koni?
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By Tarek El-Tablawy, The Associated Press
CAIRO - An official at Cairo airport says 19 private jets carrying families of wealthy Egyptian and Arab businessmen have flown out of the capital.
The official said the jets left Saturday carrying dozens of family members of Egypt's business elite. He said most of the planes were headed for Dubai.
The passengers included the families of telecom mogul Naguib Sawiris, the executive chairman of Orascom Telecom, and Hussein Salem, a hotel tycoon and close confidant of President Hosni Mubarak.
The exodus of the families comes as Egypt enters its sixth day of mass unrest directed against Mubarak and what they say have been policies that further enrich the wealthy at the average citizen's expense.
The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to brief the media.
CAIRO - An official at Cairo airport says 19 private jets carrying families of wealthy Egyptian and Arab businessmen have flown out of the capital.
The official said the jets left Saturday carrying dozens of family members of Egypt's business elite. He said most of the planes were headed for Dubai.
The passengers included the families of telecom mogul Naguib Sawiris, the executive chairman of Orascom Telecom, and Hussein Salem, a hotel tycoon and close confidant of President Hosni Mubarak.
The exodus of the families comes as Egypt enters its sixth day of mass unrest directed against Mubarak and what they say have been policies that further enrich the wealthy at the average citizen's expense.
The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to brief the media.
From BBC updates:
In many neighbourhoods, residents have formed committees to protect their properties from looting.
Looters rampaged through a number of wealthy neighbourhoods in Cairo, while in Alexandria there were reports of widespread looting of supermarket chains.
Isn't it ironic that all this started happening literally hours after a certain camel compared Green protests to Rodney King riots?
In many neighbourhoods, residents have formed committees to protect their properties from looting.
Looters rampaged through a number of wealthy neighbourhoods in Cairo, while in Alexandria there were reports of widespread looting of supermarket chains.
Isn't it ironic that all this started happening literally hours after a certain camel compared Green protests to Rodney King riots?
جناب
شما می فرمایید شجاعت ان است که انسان حرف حق را بزند
اول باید حرف حق را مشخص کرد که چیست!!!
به نظر شما شاید مبارک نا حق باشد چون 30 سال بر مسند قدرت تکیه زده
در صورتی که به نظر خود ایشان بر حق هستند
به نظر فلسطینیان اسرائیل بر حق نیست و حرف حق را نمی زند
در صورتی که به نظر اکثر اسرائیلی ها نیتنیاهو بر حق است و حرف حق را می زند
خوب پس اینکه بگوییم مبارک حرف حق را نمی زند و برادعی یا اخوان المسلمین حرف حق را می زنند
یکجانبه نگریست
وقتی که من می گویم حسنی مبارک شجاع است منظور این است که از ارمانهای خود از نظام و عقیده خود حالا یک عقیده وارمان دیکتاتوری یا پوچ هم که باشد دفاع می کند
منظور من این بود وقتی گفتم ایشان شجاعت انرا دارند که تا اخر روی حرف خودش بایستند
متشکرم
شما می فرمایید شجاعت ان است که انسان حرف حق را بزند
اول باید حرف حق را مشخص کرد که چیست!!!
به نظر شما شاید مبارک نا حق باشد چون 30 سال بر مسند قدرت تکیه زده
در صورتی که به نظر خود ایشان بر حق هستند
به نظر فلسطینیان اسرائیل بر حق نیست و حرف حق را نمی زند
در صورتی که به نظر اکثر اسرائیلی ها نیتنیاهو بر حق است و حرف حق را می زند
خوب پس اینکه بگوییم مبارک حرف حق را نمی زند و برادعی یا اخوان المسلمین حرف حق را می زنند
یکجانبه نگریست
وقتی که من می گویم حسنی مبارک شجاع است منظور این است که از ارمانهای خود از نظام و عقیده خود حالا یک عقیده وارمان دیکتاتوری یا پوچ هم که باشد دفاع می کند
منظور من این بود وقتی گفتم ایشان شجاعت انرا دارند که تا اخر روی حرف خودش بایستند
متشکرم
Anyone else catch on to this AFRIRAN character?
Showed up out of the blue a few months ago, posting up a storm. Insists on writing in Farsi, and his broken English seems oddly familiar. Tries way too hard to present a distinct personality, referring to everyone as daash this and daash that. Usually posts a few words here and there against the regime for tactical purposes, but saves all of his venom for the reformers and takes every opportunity to "remind" us of their previous crimes. Strangely, he's not nearly as sensitive to the crimes presently committed by others.
On the recent execution:
Coincidentally, this is the same obsession with discrediting the Greens we saw in Sardar Ghandali's posts when the protests were going on.
He's even selling the exact same line on AN's election as a certain member, saying it was all legit because too many "simple-minded" villagers voted for him:
Note that this is exactly what a certain someone was saying in 2009. Just click on this name and read the post history. He even does the trademark brief one-line argument with his other account to throw people off.
khodeti aziz, khodeti.:hau:
Jenab ghandali, Sardar IQ, baba marizi boro doktor! akhe in site cheghadr moheme ke tow badbakht 24 saa'ate inja mashghoole anjam ma'mooriaate balatar az khatari? natars baba ISP gharar nist regimo sarnegoon koneh! nazdik khoone mahdekoodaki chizi nist beri did bezani haal koni?
Showed up out of the blue a few months ago, posting up a storm. Insists on writing in Farsi, and his broken English seems oddly familiar. Tries way too hard to present a distinct personality, referring to everyone as daash this and daash that. Usually posts a few words here and there against the regime for tactical purposes, but saves all of his venom for the reformers and takes every opportunity to "remind" us of their previous crimes. Strangely, he's not nearly as sensitive to the crimes presently committed by others.
On the recent execution:
Coincidentally, this is the same obsession with discrediting the Greens we saw in Sardar Ghandali's posts when the protests were going on.
He's even selling the exact same line on AN's election as a certain member, saying it was all legit because too many "simple-minded" villagers voted for him:
Note that this is exactly what a certain someone was saying in 2009.
Just click on this name and read the post history. He even does the trademark brief one-line argument with his other account to throw people off. khodeti aziz, khodeti.:hau:
Jenab ghandali, Sardar IQ, baba marizi boro doktor! akhe in site cheghadr moheme ke tow badbakht 24 saa'ate inja mashghoole anjam ma'mooriaate balatar az khatari? natars baba ISP gharar nist regimo sarnegoon koneh! nazdik khoone mahdekoodaki chizi nist beri did bezani haal koni?
شوخی نمیکنم واقعا می گویم
به نظر من شما مریض هستید تو باید بروی دکتر نه من
حالا افرایران هم شد ژنرال
:hau:
بعضی ها خودشان هم نمی دانند چه می خواهند
ایا می دانید اگر رژیم حسنی مبارک سقوط کند اسلامگرایان روی کار می ایند ؟
دیر یا زود البرادعی و دیگران را مثل اب خوردن کنار می زنند
و بر مسند قدرت می نشینند
البرادعی فقط پل عبوری است که اخوان المسلمین از روی ان عبور خواهند کرد و تایید انها اکنون از البرادعی به ای جهت است که تظاهرات پشتیبانی بین المللی داشته باشد
حسنی مبارک از منطقه برود جمهوری اسلامی و حزب الله قدرت دوچندانی خواهند گرفت هم در خاورمیانه هم در شمال افریقا
هر چند که من فکر نکنم حسنی مبارک و سران ارتش تا این اندازه نادان باشند که ندانند چه می گذرد
و بازی پنجاه ساله را به اخوان ببازند
ایا می دانید اگر رژیم حسنی مبارک سقوط کند اسلامگرایان روی کار می ایند ؟
دیر یا زود البرادعی و دیگران را مثل اب خوردن کنار می زنند
و بر مسند قدرت می نشینند
البرادعی فقط پل عبوری است که اخوان المسلمین از روی ان عبور خواهند کرد و تایید انها اکنون از البرادعی به ای جهت است که تظاهرات پشتیبانی بین المللی داشته باشد
حسنی مبارک از منطقه برود جمهوری اسلامی و حزب الله قدرت دوچندانی خواهند گرفت هم در خاورمیانه هم در شمال افریقا
هر چند که من فکر نکنم حسنی مبارک و سران ارتش تا این اندازه نادان باشند که ندانند چه می گذرد
و بازی پنجاه ساله را به اخوان ببازند
دوست گرامی، اين چه حرفهاييست که ميزنيد؟ من و افريران چه شباهتی با هم
داريم؟ بنده فوقش 99 درصد اوقات با جمهوری اسلامی موافقم، ايشون فقط 97 درصد.
من ميگم دهاتی های ساده لوح احمدينژاد را انتخاب کردند،ايشون ميگه دهاتی های
شپشو بودند. بنده به همه ميگم جناب، ايشون به همه ميگه داش. اين يکی ديگه کاملاً
ثابت ميکنه که ما دو نفر متفاوت هستيم. تازه هر وقت اسم موسوی مياد من داد ميزنم
ولی ايشون جيغ ميزنه. خوب فرق رو دقت کنيد عزيز من.
اصلاً همهٔ اين حرفها زير سر اون موسوی جنايتکاره که تمام قتل و آدمکشی سی سال
اخير در زمان اون انجام شد و تازه همين هفته دستور داد يک خانوم بی گناه رو اعدام کنند.
يکی نمياد بهش بگه آخه آدمکش، به خاطر روستايی های شريف شپشو انتخابات رو که باختی،
حالا چرا مردم رو اعدام ميکنی؟؟
داريم؟ بنده فوقش 99 درصد اوقات با جمهوری اسلامی موافقم، ايشون فقط 97 درصد.
من ميگم دهاتی های ساده لوح احمدينژاد را انتخاب کردند،ايشون ميگه دهاتی های
شپشو بودند. بنده به همه ميگم جناب، ايشون به همه ميگه داش. اين يکی ديگه کاملاً
ثابت ميکنه که ما دو نفر متفاوت هستيم. تازه هر وقت اسم موسوی مياد من داد ميزنم
ولی ايشون جيغ ميزنه. خوب فرق رو دقت کنيد عزيز من.
اصلاً همهٔ اين حرفها زير سر اون موسوی جنايتکاره که تمام قتل و آدمکشی سی سال
اخير در زمان اون انجام شد و تازه همين هفته دستور داد يک خانوم بی گناه رو اعدام کنند.
يکی نمياد بهش بگه آخه آدمکش، به خاطر روستايی های شريف شپشو انتخابات رو که باختی،
حالا چرا مردم رو اعدام ميکنی؟؟
