Coverage from foreign media

Oct 18, 2002
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So far very disappointed with Guardian, especially the very ignorant editorial they put out this morning claiming antari had real support.
BBC also sucks but at least they are the only media reaching out to people inside Iran. They might be trying to be cautious.
Conservative blogs I have read are probably the worst. They politicizing our pain for their own gains. Andrew Sullivan is the lone exception. He's been on top of things since yesterday. We might wanna send him thank yous later.
Huffingtonpost and liberal blogs all mostly good coverage.
NYtimes and LAtimes have been good.
I haven't been watching American TV at all. Perhaps someone could write an evaluation if you've been following events on TV.
 
Oct 16, 2002
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DarvAze DoolAb
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Actually CNN started very disappointing but once Amanpour's report came, they switched their tone and started talking about the fraud more than AN's victory.

Amanpour is a heavyweight. Her tone was clearly in favor of Mousavi supporters and that affected CNN's tone as a whole. Damesh garm.
 

JazzedUp

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Dec 1, 2002
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Almost all western media have been very disappointing. I don't know it seems they either are being very cautious or just they don't have access to what is really happening there. As mentioned before I have been very disappointed with The Guardian. It's usually my main source western media news but so far not so good.

BBC has been pretty poor even CNN is doing a better job.
 

Niloufar

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Oct 19, 2002
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I just barely skimmed through foreign media today, as just like always they are just being "reactionists" to imp incidents happening hrs earlier around the world.

CNN had a good coverage. Amanpour gave an excellent report from Tehran and CNN host(young Black guy) also extensively showed the violence pics and demonstrations posted on twitters and other websites.
 
Aug 21, 2005
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yahoo now has a report on US not accepting AN's landslide win, also i think if the demonstrations go on for few more days, they have no choice but to cover it, wall to wall, i am really hope TM wins this wednesday to add fuel to the fire!!!
 
Oct 18, 2002
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Guys, I was was watching Press TV and I noticed they have some foreign reporters. Cynthia McKinney who is a former house rep was on talking about the black plight. For some reason I was really offended given what's happening in Iran. She seems to have her own show on there. I know there are other foreign reporters that work for IRIB and press TV. I was just thinking maybe we should start a campaign to have these guys resign. IRI is not extending the visas for any foreign media reporters and forcing them to leave Iran. At the same time some of their head quarters have been attacked, some of them have reportedly been jailed. It's even worse for Iranian reporters. I think it's really offensive that any foreign reporter would be working for IRI.
 

ardy

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Nov 25, 2004
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I personally think the foreign media have done a decent coverage so far. Remember that a lot of stuff happened during the weekend and the US media don't cover much of politics during the weekend on TV.

Guys, I was was watching Press TV and I noticed they have some foreign reporters. Cynthia McKinney who is a former house rep was on talking about the black plight. For some reason I was really offended given what's happening in Iran. She seems to have her own show on there. I know there are other foreign reporters that work for IRIB and press TV. I was just thinking maybe we should start a campaign to have these guys resign. IRI is not extending the visas for any foreign media reporters and forcing them to leave Iran. At the same time some of their head quarters have been attacked, some of them have reportedly been jailed. It's even worse for Iranian reporters. I think it's really offensive that any foreign reporter would be working for IRI.
It's a great idea Shahin.
 

westwienmaskulin

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Oct 18, 2002
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So far very disappointed with Guardian, especially the very ignorant editorial they put out this morning claiming antari had real support.
BBC also sucks but at least they are the only media reaching out to people inside Iran. They might be trying to be cautious.
Conservative blogs I have read are probably the worst. They politicizing our pain for their own gains. Andrew Sullivan is the lone exception. He's been on top of things since yesterday. We might wanna send him thank yous later.
Huffingtonpost and liberal blogs all mostly good coverage.
NYtimes and LAtimes have been good.
I haven't been watching American TV at all. Perhaps someone could write an evaluation if you've been following events on TV.
Guardian when it comes to news on Iran is a mullah paper. They get funds and some type of payola to allow editorials. I only check their stuff for football but for news on Iran, they are just rubbish.

Blogs are killing it...andrew sullivan, juan cole, huffington post, ABC, NYTimes, LA Times was excellent, made me forget about their BS about Biggie...

Anyway...you can see friends and foes...keep it up!
 

Farzad-USA

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Apr 4, 2007
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For two decades, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has remained a shadowy presence at the pinnacle of power in Iran, sparing in his public appearances and comments. Through his control of the military, the judiciary and all public broadcasts, the supreme leader controlled the levers he needed to maintain an iron if discreet grip on the Islamic republic.

But in a rare break from a long history of cautious moves, he rushed to bless President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for winning the election, calling on Iranians to line up behind the incumbent even before the standard three days required to certify the results had passed.

Then angry crowds swelled in cities around Iran, and he backpedaled, announcing Monday that the 12-member Council of Guardians, which vets elections and new laws, would investigate the vote.

“After congratulating the nation for having a sacred victory, to say now that there is a possibility that it was rigged is a big step backward for him,” said Abbas Milani, the director of Stanford University’s Iranian studies program.

Few suggest yet that Ayatollah Khamenei’s hold on power is at risk. But, analysts say, he has opened a serious fissure in the face of Islamic rule and one that may prove impossible to patch over, particularly given the fierce dispute over the election that has erupted amid the elite veterans of the 1979 revolution. Even his strong links to the powerful Revolutionary Guards — long his insurance policy — may not be decisive as the confrontation in Iran unfolds.

“Khamenei would always come and say, ‘Shut up; what I say goes,’ ” said Azar Nafisi, the author of two memoirs about Iran, including “Reading Lolita in Tehran.” “Everyone would say, ‘O.K., it is the word of the leader.’ Now the myth that there is a leader up there whose power is unquestionable is broken.”

Those sensing that important change may be afoot are quick to caution that Ayatollah Khamenei, as a student of the revolution that swept the shah from power, could still resort to overwhelming force to crush the demonstrations.

In calling for the Guardian Council to investigate the vote, he has bought himself a 10-day grace period for the anger to subside, experts note. The outcome is not likely to be a surprise. Ayatollah Ahmed Jannati, the council’s chairman, is one of Ayatollah Khamenei’s few staunch allies among powerful clerics. In addition, Ayatollah Khamenei appoints half the members, while the other half are nominated by the head of the judiciary, another appointee of the supreme leader.

“It is simply a faux investigation to quell the protests,” said Karim Sadjadpour, an Iran specialist at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

Ayatollah Khamenei was an unlikely successor to the patriarch of the revolution, the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, and his elevation to the post of supreme leader in 1989 might have sown the seeds for the political crisis the country is facing today.

The son of a cleric from the holy city of Mashhad, Ayatollah Khamenei was known as something of an open-minded mullah, if not exactly liberal. He had a good singing voice; played the tar, a traditional Iranian stringed instrument; and wrote poetry. His circle of friends included some of the country’s most accomplished poets.

In the violence right after the overthrow of Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi, a bomb hidden in a tape recorder permanently crippled his right arm, and he was elevated to president in 1981 after another bomb killed the incumbent. He managed to attract the ire of Ayatollah Khomeini himself once, ironically, by publicly questioning some aspects of having a vilayat-e-faqih, or supreme leader system.

He also clashed repeatedly with Mir Hussein Moussavi, the powerful prime minister at the time. After being trounced in the official election results by Mr. Ahmadinejad, Mr. Moussavi, the reformist presidential candidate, challenged Ayatollah Khamenei in the one area where he has always been vulnerable: his religious credentials.

Mr. Moussavi wrote an open letter to the clergy in the holy city of Qom about the election results. By appealing to the grand clerics, he was effectively saying Ayatollah Khamenei’s word as supreme leader lacked sufficient weight.

Ayatollah Khamenei was elevated from the middle clerical rank, hojatolislam, to ayatollah overnight in what was essentially a political rather than a religious decision. He earned undying scorn from many keepers of Shiite tradition, even though Iran’s myth-making machinery cranked up, with a witness professing he saw a light pass from Ayatollah Khomeini to Ayatollah Khamenei much the way the imams of centuries past were anointed.

Still, lacking a political base of his own, he set about creating one in the military. It was the end of the Iran-Iraq war, and many senior officers returning from the front demanded a role in politics or the economy for their sacrifices. Ayatollah Khamenei became a source of patronage for them, giving them important posts in broadcasting or as leaders of the vast foundations that had confiscated much of the pre-revolution private sector.


“By empowering them, he got power,” said Mehdi Khalaji of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.

In the wake of the election debacle, questions are being raised about who controls whom. But over the years, Ayatollah Khamenei gradually surmounted expectations that he would be eclipsed.

“He is a weak leader, who is extremely smart in allying himself, or in maneuvering between centers of power,” said one expert at New York University, declining to use his name because he travels to Iran frequently. “Because of the factionalism of the state, he seems to be the most powerful person.”

But many analysts say the differences between factions have never been quite so pronounced nor public as in the past few days. Former President Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, once a close Khamenei ally who helped him become supreme leader, sent an open letter to him in the days before the election warning that any fraud would backfire, Mr. Milani noted. If he allowed the military to ignore the public will and to destroy senior revolutionary veterans, the decision would haunt him, Mr. Rafsanjani warned: “Tomorrow it is going to be you.”

Everyone speaking of Ayatollah Khamenei tends to use the word “cautious,” a man who never gambles. But he now faces a nearly impossible choice. If he lets the demonstrations swell, it could well change the system of clerical rule. If he uses violence to stamp them out, the myth of a popular mandate for the Islamic revolution will die.

“The Iranian leadership is caught in a paradox,” said Ms. Nafisi, the author of memoirs about Iran.

Source: The New York Times
 

mowj

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May 14, 2005
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Farzad-USA what forced Vali Vaghih rush to certify the Coup D'etat was the brilliant move by Mousavi declaring himself the winner as he won the night of election, finding out the Coup D'etat underway.

Dorood bar Mousavi,
If Khatami had a fraction of Mousavi's courage in committment to people's right we would have been in far better situation now.

The militarist religous fascists coup d'etat of 22 Khordad 1388 failed, and regim's days are numbered.
 

Farzad-USA

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Apr 4, 2007
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We're told that a young and restless Facebook generation has arisen in Iran, text-messaging and Twittering away at the fabric of a conservative clerical rule that it is no longer willing to accept. Ranged against it are the dogged defenders of a decrepit regime that has outlived its purpose, surviving only through brute force and its ability to convince the unsophisticated, mostly rural poor folk in their ragged suits and black chadors that President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is their champion against corrupt politicians and the treacherous intellectuals and amoral rich kids who support them.

Obviously these are stereotypes — and highly misleading ones at that. The schism in Iran is not reducible to social class, ethnicity, region or generation. A simple glance at the crowds over the past week reveals women in black chadors on both sides of the divide, and women in makeup too. Many kids whose parents were poor have themselves managed to get university degrees as a result of the revolution's largesse — Ahmadinejad may be a populist, and he may emphasize his humble origins, but he's proud of his Ph.D. (His supporters call him "the Doctor.") And many children of rural poverty who are now educated and living in the cities, though still of limited means, don't necessarily share the outlook of their parents. Absent a proper tabulation of the actual vote on June 12, we'll never know the exact distribution of political support to each candidate across the regions, social classes and age groups. But even in the rallies in support of the candidates before and after the election, it's plain that the country can't be neatly divided along the lines of those categories.

Ahmadinejad clearly has a political base. He may have won votes from as many as 10 million people motivated by alienation from the political establishment and a belief that they have been cut out of the spoils of the Islamic revolution. The President has assiduously courted these constituencies by recklessly throwing money at them through unvetted infrastructure projects and social spending. Some government employees have doubled their income on Ahmadinejad's watch. And, of course, many Iranians are so resentful that they've enjoyed Ahmadinejad's naming and shaming of members of the political establishment he accuses of corruption. Many feel that most of the leaders of the Islamic Republic have betrayed the revolution that propelled them to power and made it harder for its foot soldiers to get ahead. In opposition candidate Mir-Hossein Mousavi, Ahmadinejad's supporters see the epitome of the parasitic political class the President has railed against.

But Mousavi's support ranges from the urban middle class, students and the intellectuals who previously brought the reform movement to power to many people of humble backgrounds, for whom Ahmadinejad's triumphalist economic claims simply don't ring true. They know the economy has gotten worse on his watch because they have been the most vulnerable to its downturn. Ahmadinejad may go on TV and cite statistics to prove that things are getting better, but they're the ones who are unable to marry because they can never afford to get their own homes. So there's no easy demographic breakdown between the two sides.

What's often forgotten amid the genuinely awe-inspiring spectacle of hundreds of thousands of long-suppressed people risking their lives on the streets to demand change is the fact that the political contest playing out in the election is, in fact, among rival factions of the same regime. Ahmadinejad represents a conservative element, backed by the Supreme Leader, that believes the established political class has hijacked the revolution and enriched themselves and is fearful that the faction's more pragmatic inclination toward engagement with the West could lead to a normalization of relations that will "pollute" Iran's culture and weaken the regime. Mousavi is not really a reformer so much as a pragmatic, moderate conservative who has campaigned with the backing of the reform movement because it recognizes that he has a better chance of unseating Ahmadinejad than one of their own would have. (The reformists' own economic performance, during their eight years in power from 1997 to 2005, unfortunately also left much to be desired, and was a key reason for Ahmadinejad's election to the presidency.)

Trita Parsi, Time