Don’t strike deal with Ahmadinejad, pleads leader of Iran’s Green movement

Farzad-USA

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A leading opposition figure has expressed fears that the West will abandon Iran’s pro-democracy movement and strike a deal with the Tehran regime over its nuclear programme.

“We are concerned that the West will betray us — and its own principles of liberty, democracy and human rights,” said the man, an Iranian academic and a leader of an underground cell. He cannot be identified for fear of retribution.

Speaking to The Times in a European capital, having recently slipped out of Iran, the senior member of the country’s “Green” movement warned that Iran’s apparent nuclear concessions were merely a ruse to ease international pressure while it sought to crush domestic dissent. “How can you rely on any promises and pledges made by a government that not only stole the June election, has not only killed and raped its own citizens, but also has consistently hidden major parts of the nuclear programme?” he asked.

His concerns were heightened by the presence of the British Ambassador at President Ahmadinejad’s inauguration in August, after the hotly contested elections in June. “This was a slap in the face of the families who had lost loved ones at the hands of Ahmadinejad. We expected the Russians and the Chinese to do something like this, as they have authoritarian governments. But the country that has ‘the mother of all parliaments’ should hold itself to higher standards,” he said.


A growing economic crisis and an uncrushable opposition will destroy President Ahmadinejad’s illegitimate government within four years, he said. “We are confident that Ahmadinejad will not be able to finish his term,”
He described in detail how the opposition flourishes, despite the regime’s brutal crackdown on any form of dissent. In Tehran it consists of half a dozen organising cells that co-ordinate with each other but work independently of Mir Hossein Mousavi and Mehdi Karoubi, the defeated presidential candidates who have become figureheads of the “Green” movement.

Cell leaders meet in tea houses and restaurants to develop plans and directions. They use internet “trees” to disseminate information about meetings, procedures and slogans, the latest activities of the opposition’s political leaders and articles from foreign media. “We try to avoid mass mailing or even mass text-messaging in order to lessen the possibility of detection,” he said, adding that three recent articles in The Times describing the systematic rape of opposition detainees were translated into Farsi within hours of publication and widely circulated in a country whose independent media has been largely extinguished.

Cell leaders had been astonished by the public’s response, he said. Iranians had begun spontaneously defacing officials’ portraits, motorway signs and walls with green paintballs, or with slogans painted in green. He described how people sat in restaurants writing anti-government slogans on banknotes before paying their bills; how individuals used their own money to have 50 or 100 flyers printed and how he once found a young man putting leaflets under the windscreen wipers of parked cars on his own initiative.

“He and his friends had decided that if the movement was to succeed everyone had to do his or her own thing...It is this activity which is driving the regime mad because it can’t control it. It thought that by arresting so many leaders of the reformist movement, the leaderless popular opposition would simply go away. They failed to understand that this is a bottom-up grassroots movement.” The regime’s attempts to stiffle dissent were making it look increasingly ridiculous, he contended.

A recent football match at Tehran’s Azadi stadium was broadcast in black and white, and without sound, because most of the 70,000 fans were wearing green and chanting anti-Ahmadinejad slogans.

The cell leader said that an important turning point occured last month when as many as a million people defied the regime’s warnings and turned the annual Qods Day rally in support of the Palestinian cause into a huge protest against their own repression.

“We never in our wildest dreams believed this many people would turn up. . . We hoped at best for 100,000 people,” he said. “It showed people were no longer scared of the regime, and that the movement is not only alive but growing. It was a huge morale boost.” Similiar demonstrations are planned for November 4, the day Iranians celebrate the seizure of the US Embassy in 1979.

The activist said university students were mobilising now the new academic year was under way, and that there had already been large, angry demonstrations at the University of Tehran and the capital’s Sahrif and Azad universities. He said there was active opposition in many other cities across Iran including Siraz, Isfahan, Mashad, Kermanshad and Rasht. He claimed that the elite Republican Guard on which the regime depends for its survival was “not as united as it seems, and there is growing discontent over the competency of Ahmadinejad”.

As great a threat to the regime, however was a collapsing economy that was destroying its support amongst poorer Iranians.

Largely as a result of Mr Ahmadinjad’s first-term profligacy inflation and unemployment are rising, property prices slumping and construction stagnating. Only 30 per cent of factories are operating at more than 50 per cent capacity, and within six months another 3,000 are expected to close or switch to a two- or three-day week. Private companies, including almost the entire pharmaceutical and engineering sectors, are owed huge amounts of money by the government. Irankhodro, the Middle East’s largest car manufacturer, is effectively bankrupt. There have been strikes in Tehran, Arak and Masahd. “The economic crisis is becoming catastrophic . . . It will help finish the regime,” the activist claimed.

He e said that the West had grown used to swift “velvet revolutions” like those that toppled former Soviet regimes, but the struggle in Iran would take longer. However, there was now a widespread belief that the regime was “raftani” — heading for the rubbish bin of history.

“We had believed it was for ever, but now we realise it is no more,” he said. The one disappointment, he said, was the failure of Iran’s leading clerics to join the opposition. With a few notable exceptions “the Grand Ayatollahs have not acted in defence of the people against tyranny and the regime’s use of violence and rape. The people looked to them as a class and were disappointed.”
 
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Kas nakhaarad poshte to joz nakhon e angoshte to.

People have been hoping for the west, east, center, koreye merikh, Takaavaran e LORD OF THE RINGS to save them from velaayat.

not going to happen. The west would much prefer to make a deal with an abomination such as AN which would sell his own mother to the ORTHODOX CHURCH OF cocaine dealers for the right price.

Why would any western country want to see a powerful, independent, democratic Iran where economy flourishes and oil will be sold at low quantity and a high price.

Why would west want to see an Iran that EXPORTS PETROL instead of crude oil ...think about it.

Obama is as much as a prostitute as Bush was just he comes in technicolor.
 

Niloufar

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fair pleads but as Darth said, its about time we dont look forward to a favour by Western power to save us. Afterall, everytime they tried, it hurt our ppl most. they just dont consider our ppl's benefits..naturally ofcourse..
The massive/popular Green Movement will lead us to democracy much better than foreign helps/coups/strategies.
 

Jahel

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Friendship between the west and the IR will have drastic effects on people's struggle for freedom and will make things much more difficult for Iranians. This should not be under-estimated. Yes, foreigners will not scratch my back but at least should not put a stick into my wheel. These bastard foreign governments MUST be given disapproval of Iranians, so that they know that Iranians 'will remember'. I believe this move by the green movement was a good one. We should say NO to any kind of inactions.
 

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Amazing how the great leader of the "democratic green" movement does NOT release his identity to his followers even though, according to the article, he has managed to slip out of the country!!!!!!!!

Can we stop being dupes and demand more of these leaders. How can an educated person follow a "leader" who won't identify himself!!!!!!

Pick up a book on leadership so you can make better assessments about your leaders.
 
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Amazing how the great leader of the "democratic green" movement does NOT release his identity to his followers even though, according to the article, he has managed to slip out of the country!!!!!!!!

Can we stop being dupes and demand more of these leaders. How can an educated person follow a "leader" who won't identify himself!!!!!!

Pick up a book on leadership so you can make better assessments about your leaders.

He cannot be identified for fear of retribution.




 

Niloufar

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Amazing how the great leader of the "democratic green" movement does NOT release his identity to his followers even though, according to the article, he has managed to slip out of the country!!!!!!!!

Can we stop being dupes and demand more of these leaders. How can an educated person follow a "leader" who won't identify himself!!!!!!

Pick up a book on leadership so you can make better assessments about your leaders.
no educated person 'follows' a leader. that leader follows educated ppl..thats clear in Green movement. which is the clear difference bn other movements such as 1979 Revolution!;)
 
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Bauvafa

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He cannot be identified for fear of retribution.
Sounds like the MSM releasing major breaking news from sources unidentified for `fear of retribution`.
How can I as a follower of this leader know that he is real?

well, the message from all of us is clear to this leader:

hey tough guy, come forth and show your face and then we do the talkin and see who does the leading.
 
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Amazing how the great leader of the "democratic green" movement does NOT release his identity to his followers even though, according to the article, he has managed to slip out of the country!!!!!!!!

Can we stop being dupes and demand more of these leaders. How can an educated person follow a "leader" who won't identify himself!!!!!!

Pick up a book on leadership so you can make better assessments about your leaders.
If your family didn't rape every single prisoner, then maybe this leader would allow himself to be identified.

Pick up a book on humanity, so you can make better assessments about species different from yours. Thanks.
 

Bauvafa

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no education person 'follows' a leader. that leader follows educated ppl..thats clear in Green movement. which is the clear difference bn other movements such as 1979 Revolution!;)
akhe abji twitter (formerly known as abji nilou):pooya2:


yani shoma loghmaro doreh saretoon micharkhoonin??:looti:
 

alborz

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AN alone , single handedly, is doing a great job keeping the green movement alive. Few months ago, if some one told me there will be a green movement, people asking for fundamental changes, the fake supreme leader deservedly and openly being criticized , the marg bar dictator would be as common as it is now, I would`ve said impossible. But thanks to AN and and his illegitimate government we are on track to take Iran back.
 

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Amazing how the great leader of the "democratic green" movement does NOT release his identity to his followers even though, according to the article, he has managed to slip out of the country!!!!!!!!

Can we stop being dupes and demand more of these leaders. How can an educated person follow a "leader" who won't identify himself!!!!!!

Pick up a book on leadership so you can make better assessments about your leaders.
in the meantime, why don't you start with posting an actual picture of yourself, rather than the one you currently have, oh brave one .....
 

Flint

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Make up your mind people. Wasn't that long ago that the whole world seemed to ask for negotiations and diplomacy. Well, be careful what you wish for. What I see developing is that Obama is desperate to show his new approach is working so he will sign on to any deal to make it appear he has broken a 10 year logjam. The idea that IR will send their fuel abroad, Russia of all places, and get it enriched there, is laughable.
 
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no educated person 'follows' a leader. that leader follows educated ppl..thats clear in Green movement. which is the clear difference bn other movements such as 1979 Revolution!;)
Which educated ppl ??!!! As you can clearly see, there is wide range of ppl who consider themself Sabzi Now.

1) Group that support a military attack on Iran
2) Group who support terrorist attacks on Iranian and Iranian hero who the "Leaders" of green consider heros of 8 year war.
3) Group which insults Imam (RA) which again, the "leaders" of Sabzi, inside and outside of iran, consier themself his follower.


I think the problem with green in the " NO" leader and lots of hype and nothing to back it up.
 
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no educated person 'follows' a leader. that leader follows educated ppl..
one of the most enlightened sentences i have ever heard.

Once in a while I learn from another human being in such an extent that erases a lot of stupidities put forward by other human beings.

people please, I implore you, please read the quoted sentence and if you can think about it for a few minutes. Think about it and think back 1400 years.
 
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Why doesn't this person have a name? "A leader" of the green movement!

This guy cares for the movement but a leader I doubt he is.

Or if he is leader for typing things online then so is everyone else on the internet.

Americans and Israel have always prefered having an extremist leading IR so that they can make more money from building more bombs and weaponry and justify their actions in other places.

The Green movement does not and will not need US help. They have never cared for Iranian people and only for their own benefits. AN has only proved his treacherous nature by working in Isreal's favor and destroying Iranian credibility around the world and filling the pockets of his cousins who are the masters of the black market with the help of their Chinese and Russian masters. Over importing of Chinese products have pretty much killed all home grown industries not owned by the DARO DASTEH.
 
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این امریکایها و پنج به علاوه یک که قبلا می گفتند ایران باید نیروگاهای اتمی را ببندد
و غنی سازی را متوقف کند چه و چه
حالا چطور شده که قبول کردند اورانیوم پنج در صد را بدهد و بیست درصد تحویل بگیرد؟!!!!آ