i concur.which is why i don't understand why all these bahai extremist/militants try to shove their 'healing balm'
on other people when at best bahaism can be described as islam version 1.00001.it's all in arabic as well and their
initial scammers were all from arabic origin if we go by their titles.
btw,the guy who is doing the expose on bahaism was on trial in iran after the 2009 riots and spent time in jail.he is
not an iri supporter but a true pan-iranist who despite his disdain for religion supports the irgc and it's leaders for
their defense of the integrity of iran against all foreign and domestic enemies.he describes his transformation in this
clip.you can see the video of his trial starting around 26:00 minute mark.
[video=youtube;763xlwIaYNw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=763xlwIaYNw[/video]
on other people when at best bahaism can be described as islam version 1.00001.it's all in arabic as well and their
initial scammers were all from arabic origin if we go by their titles.
btw,the guy who is doing the expose on bahaism was on trial in iran after the 2009 riots and spent time in jail.he is
not an iri supporter but a true pan-iranist who despite his disdain for religion supports the irgc and it's leaders for
their defense of the integrity of iran against all foreign and domestic enemies.he describes his transformation in this
clip.you can see the video of his trial starting around 26:00 minute mark.
[video=youtube;763xlwIaYNw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=763xlwIaYNw[/video]
This misses the point that the major issue in Iran is Islam, and in particular Shie Islam. Bahism is just another religion, and its followers have been victims of the Islamic government. You are ignoring the religion that has been and is the source of all the problems in Iran, and focusing on a non-issue. Even, as you say, Bahism is based on Islam. So, go to the root, which is Islam. Once you show Islam is BS, and its followers have ruined the country, any off shoot of Islam is also gone.
doost nadaram.
be har haal merci az daav talab shodanet.
agar dalilesho ham mikhahi bedooni man mikham een soal ro az yek kasi bokonam ke taraf dare jomoorhi e eslami ye. shoma farmoodin zed e jomhoori e eslami hastin.
hala playboy:
please tell us when and where shit-e religion started. I am all ears.
be har haal merci az daav talab shodanet.
agar dalilesho ham mikhahi bedooni man mikham een soal ro az yek kasi bokonam ke taraf dare jomoorhi e eslami ye. shoma farmoodin zed e jomhoori e eslami hastin.
hala playboy:
please tell us when and where shit-e religion started. I am all ears.
my point is bahai, shit-e, sunni, esmaili, sufi, catholic, protestant, etc are all tentacles of the same octopus.
take iraq, when sunnis were in power they prosecuted and tortured shit-e and other ethnics such as kurds.
then shit-e s took over instead of reconciliation and building the country, what is the first thing they do, they prosecuted and killed sunnis which gave paki and saudi assholes grouds to supply and create ISIS.
it is just the matter of who is in power. bahais are the same.
my mother is bahai and he persuaded my father many years ago to invest with a bahai woman into some businesses. My dad being an engineer all his life did not have much experience in financial fields and the bahai woman managed to embezzle a lot of money out of my dad causing his eventual bankruptcy.
I know bahai wife beaters.
about 25 years ago where i live some bahais used to distribute heroin using a cab company as a cover.
i mentioned the above examples because i feel that some bahais somewhat feel that they are above everyone else for some strange reason. nothing special just like other segments of this religion if they are religious and if they are in positions of power they will cause hurt, torture and probably death to others directly because of their religions beliefs OR in most cases using those religious beliefs as a platform to fill their own pockets.
shit-es are doing it in IR,
sunnis are doing it ksa, kuwait, hemarat e olaagh, qatar
esmailis are doing it in pakistan
bahais are doing it in israel.
flush them all down the toilet and live your life as a HUMANIST. after all i am supposing we are all humans.
take iraq, when sunnis were in power they prosecuted and tortured shit-e and other ethnics such as kurds.
then shit-e s took over instead of reconciliation and building the country, what is the first thing they do, they prosecuted and killed sunnis which gave paki and saudi assholes grouds to supply and create ISIS.
it is just the matter of who is in power. bahais are the same.
my mother is bahai and he persuaded my father many years ago to invest with a bahai woman into some businesses. My dad being an engineer all his life did not have much experience in financial fields and the bahai woman managed to embezzle a lot of money out of my dad causing his eventual bankruptcy.
I know bahai wife beaters.
about 25 years ago where i live some bahais used to distribute heroin using a cab company as a cover.
i mentioned the above examples because i feel that some bahais somewhat feel that they are above everyone else for some strange reason. nothing special just like other segments of this religion if they are religious and if they are in positions of power they will cause hurt, torture and probably death to others directly because of their religions beliefs OR in most cases using those religious beliefs as a platform to fill their own pockets.
shit-es are doing it in IR,
sunnis are doing it ksa, kuwait, hemarat e olaagh, qatar
esmailis are doing it in pakistan
bahais are doing it in israel.
flush them all down the toilet and live your life as a HUMANIST. after all i am supposing we are all humans.
I don't know exactly what you mean by saying that the Baha'i faith is based on Islam, but religions do not grow out of nothingness and in a vacuum. Some take religions to be COMPETING ideologies offering different solutions, whereas they are COMPLEMENTARY such as chapters of a book that share a fundamental spiritual core, but necessarily bring new social teachings speaking to the challenges of the time.
Such sweeping statements that they are all the same are not founded in facts, conducive to meaningful dialogue and growth or helpful.
Such sweeping statements that they are all the same are not founded in facts, conducive to meaningful dialogue and growth or helpful.
Baha'is believe in all past dispensations including Islam, Christianity, Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc. one not more than the other, in the context of their time and that they all brought guidance relevant to its challenges. Baha'is also believe that all humans have received divine guidance in one shape or form including the aboriginals. At the same time, Baha'is believe that Islam and its teachings have been abrogated by the coming of the Báb and then Baha'u'llah. This is why it is an independent "religion" with its own teachings and principles. Baha'i teachings are the reason for the persecution of its followers in its birthplace more than anywhere else. Those who paint the Baha'i faith with the same brush as they do the clerical cast that has persecuted it for centuries, only do so to their own detriment, detriment of being deprived the truth. This is the tool of the mullahs: fallacies, suspicions, mistrust and prejudice to condition the people against investigating the truth for themselves.
you are absolutely wrong.
Religions are UTTERLY based on nothingness and vacuum.
why does bahai god allow his children to be persecuted by shit-e s ?
when i was a child in tehran and i went grocery shopping with my mom the idiot grocer used to wipe the fruit after my mom touched it because they believed bahais like my mom are untouchable. why did your god allow innocent bahais to be persecuted and in many cases killed ?
i pose the same question to any other people who believe in religion and god ? what the fuck is your god while your people suffer ? does he / she like seeing his flock getting tortured and persecuted ? is it like a show for him ?
come on pull the other one ...
just another racket. like christians, jews, muslims, etc etc ... another money making machines for some people to get fat on money donated by monkeys. wake up people.
Religions are UTTERLY based on nothingness and vacuum.
why does bahai god allow his children to be persecuted by shit-e s ?
when i was a child in tehran and i went grocery shopping with my mom the idiot grocer used to wipe the fruit after my mom touched it because they believed bahais like my mom are untouchable. why did your god allow innocent bahais to be persecuted and in many cases killed ?
i pose the same question to any other people who believe in religion and god ? what the fuck is your god while your people suffer ? does he / she like seeing his flock getting tortured and persecuted ? is it like a show for him ?
come on pull the other one ...
just another racket. like christians, jews, muslims, etc etc ... another money making machines for some people to get fat on money donated by monkeys. wake up people.
reconciliation means no civil war. no anarchy. try to keep whatever of the infrastructure that is left.
it doesn't mean that a single guilty person should go free.
having said that just because someone is a member of IRGC and/or bassij he cannot be summarily persecuted and punished. they are iranians like the rest of us.
Any person that based on evidence (oral, written, media, fb) has harmed any iranians should be put on trial with public being allowed to attend and be prosecuted to the letter of the law. Secular law not islamic.
and ABSOLUTELY NO DEATH PENALTY. They need to sit in prison cells and talk to psychiatrists and the results of these sessions should be published in journals so the nation of iran will never forget what islamic revolution did to them.
it doesn't mean that a single guilty person should go free.
having said that just because someone is a member of IRGC and/or bassij he cannot be summarily persecuted and punished. they are iranians like the rest of us.
Any person that based on evidence (oral, written, media, fb) has harmed any iranians should be put on trial with public being allowed to attend and be prosecuted to the letter of the law. Secular law not islamic.
and ABSOLUTELY NO DEATH PENALTY. They need to sit in prison cells and talk to psychiatrists and the results of these sessions should be published in journals so the nation of iran will never forget what islamic revolution did to them.
Baha'is of the world have paid to gradually buy the lands and build those buildings. As a matter of general practice, Baha'is do not accept donations from Non-Baha'is. Surely you know that Baha'is were forced there in exile into that area by the Islamic rulers of the time...
As for persecution, it is not God that causes persecution rather angry mobs who follow their mullahs blindly with prejudice, as they still do. The thing about prejudice is that it makes the person blind to reason that for instance long after they have stopped following the mullahs, they still seem to be influenced on a sub-conscious level by the same shibboleth and incantations that have been breathed into them by the same clerical cast.
For instance, mullahs for long have fed people about Baha'is being spies of this and that, and now they say the same things about the people that have risen to claim their freedom and dignity, yet some still believe it.
The other sad thing is that if some finally have discovered that mullahs are religious charlatans, then all religions must be bad, even those that for nearly two centuries mullahs have tried to keep a secret from the people. If Baha'is were so bad and their teachings were so bad, wouldn't it make sense to let them speak it so people can see it once and for all, for themselves?
Now, never mind what your mother believed and what happened to her, she made that choice for herself. You clearly are not a Baha'i and do not espouse its beliefs and teachings and use every opportunity to vent your anger at the world and whatever that crosses your path, what has that accomplished? Reflect on that.
As for persecution, it is not God that causes persecution rather angry mobs who follow their mullahs blindly with prejudice, as they still do. The thing about prejudice is that it makes the person blind to reason that for instance long after they have stopped following the mullahs, they still seem to be influenced on a sub-conscious level by the same shibboleth and incantations that have been breathed into them by the same clerical cast.
For instance, mullahs for long have fed people about Baha'is being spies of this and that, and now they say the same things about the people that have risen to claim their freedom and dignity, yet some still believe it.
The other sad thing is that if some finally have discovered that mullahs are religious charlatans, then all religions must be bad, even those that for nearly two centuries mullahs have tried to keep a secret from the people. If Baha'is were so bad and their teachings were so bad, wouldn't it make sense to let them speak it so people can see it once and for all, for themselves?
Now, never mind what your mother believed and what happened to her, she made that choice for herself. You clearly are not a Baha'i and do not espouse its beliefs and teachings and use every opportunity to vent your anger at the world and whatever that crosses your path, what has that accomplished? Reflect on that.
No, I do not believe you.
You will not accept less than bloodbath when that day comes. There will be no reconciliation.
Now, wait a minute..... I say this not because I care if there will be a bloodbath or not, I actually fucking dont care at all, I say this 'cause we all know how the history of that nation goes in similar occasion and how it ends. Sadly its been always like this all the way up to today!
You will not accept less than bloodbath when that day comes. There will be no reconciliation.
Now, wait a minute..... I say this not because I care if there will be a bloodbath or not, I actually fucking dont care at all, I say this 'cause we all know how the history of that nation goes in similar occasion and how it ends. Sadly its been always like this all the way up to today!