Garbage football by everyone

Oct 16, 2002
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Why don't they just take the ball out of the game and decide the winner based on who can out-wrestle the opponent?

Every single run is accompanied by a foul, shirt pulling, charging from behind or at least a shove.

So few shots on goal it's incredible this shit is being tolerated. Set pieces have become a joke. No way to score with headers now as everyone has their hands up each other's ass before the kick is even taken and refs are totally fine with this bullshit.

It's become a game of giant players who have no appreciation for the ball. It's all about physically out-powering others. Small technical players used to be the special thing about football. No more.

So few technical moves, so few attempts to dribble, so few attempts to shoot. What the fuck is this?
 
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Saeedb

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Yes it has become so dirty. Wise people don't get used to football. But it is also a business. So many people live from football.
 

Mahdi

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The damage Greece did to Football back in 2004 is un-reparable.
and also, bigger teams dont seem to care as much for WC and smaller ones only come to defend.
Why Greece? Divar kutahtar peyda nakardi?

The disparities between countries in football is becoming more and more. Football everywhere from ground up is about winning and not learning to play football. This is a development that happened before Greece. Greece defended their way to a title, they maximized their resources and skills.
 

Pooya

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Why Greece? Divar kutahtar peyda nakardi?

The disparities between countries in football is becoming more and more. Football everywhere from ground up is about winning and not learning to play football. This is a development that happened before Greece. Greece defended their way to a title, they maximized their resources and skills.
After 2004, the mentality changed, every country is going in to NOT lose instead of to WIN !
I dont agree with football statement you made, we still see some good quality football at club level.
 
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After 2004, the mentality changed, every country is going in to NOT lose instead of to WIN !
I dont agree with football statement you made, we still see some good quality football at club level.
Well you cannot blame smaller nations trying not to lose first and then go for a slim win with limited chances they have. If anything needs to be changed it is the laws of the game (I don't know which one or how) to promote more attacking football. Something like no point (or 0.5 point) for a 0-0 draw but 1 point for 1-1 or higher. Or 2 points for a 1-0 win and 3 for any other. Maybe that encourages teams to go for goals.
 
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This is why there should be measures against defensive football. It literally exists in all other sports.

There must be a time limit on how long a team can go without a shot or meaningful presence in the opponent's box. Once time limit is reached a penalty is awarded to the opponent.

There must be an incentive to taking risk and shots. 10 shots should equal either a goal or a penalty. Let these players show their fucking footballing skills instead of wrestling each other away from the ball.

There must be a limit to the number of fouls a team can commit before the opponent is awarded a penalty. You shouldn't be able to foul your way out of losing. That's just wrong.

Also, even the slightest hint of time-wasting should be countered with an immediate red-card and a penalty for the opponent. This is one of the worst characteristics of a side attempting to get through a game.
 

Pooya

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Well you cannot blame smaller nations trying not to lose first and then go for a slim win with limited chances they have. If anything needs to be changed it is the laws of the game (I don't know which one or how) to promote more attacking football. Something like no point (or 0.5 point) for a 0-0 draw but 1 point for 1-1 or higher. Or 2 points for a 1-0 win and 3 for any other. Maybe that encourages teams to go for goals.
I am not blaming them, they are playing by the rules, I am saying Greece showed how to play within the rules and fuck up the game.

I think we need deduction, as in, you dont score, u lose 0.5 point.
 

Kian Pars

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This is why there should be measures against defensive football. It literally exists in all other sports.

There must be a time limit on how long a team can go without a shot or meaningful presence in the opponent's box. Once time limit is reached a penalty is awarded to the opponent.

There must be an incentive to taking risk and shots. 10 shots should equal either a goal or a penalty. Let these players show their fucking footballing skills instead of wrestling each other away from the ball.

There must be a limit to the number of fouls a team can commit before the opponent is awarded a penalty. You shouldn't be able to foul your way out of losing. That's just wrong.

Also, even the slightest hint of time-wasting should be countered with an immediate red-card and a penalty for the opponent. This is one of the worst characteristics of a side attempting to get through a game.
Why don't you just say Team melli can't play any more?
 
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Behrooz_C

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#13
The damage Greece did to Football back in 2004 is un-reparable.
and also, bigger teams dont seem to care as much for WC and smaller ones only come to defend.
Before Otto Rehaggel with Greece, the Italians invented Catenaccio.

What did you expect lesser teams to do? Play the big opponents and get thrashed 5 and 6? Did you expect Iran to play Spain openly on Wednesday night and get thrashed?
 

Behrooz_C

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This is why there should be measures against defensive football. It literally exists in all other sports.

There must be a time limit on how long a team can go without a shot or meaningful presence in the opponent's box. Once time limit is reached a penalty is awarded to the opponent.

There must be an incentive to taking risk and shots. 10 shots should equal either a goal or a penalty. Let these players show their fucking footballing skills instead of wrestling each other away from the ball.

There must be a limit to the number of fouls a team can commit before the opponent is awarded a penalty. You shouldn't be able to foul your way out of losing. That's just wrong.

Also, even the slightest hint of time-wasting should be countered with an immediate red-card and a penalty for the opponent. This is one of the worst characteristics of a side attempting to get through a game.
Just invent a new game mate. Leave football alone! It's bad enough with VAR.
 
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Mahdi

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After 2004, the mentality changed, every country is going in to NOT lose instead of to WIN !
I dont agree with football statement you made, we still see some good quality football at club level.
Not true.

Argentina 1986-1990 played defensive and tried to win. Italy 2000 was a totally reactionary team. Club football likewise Porto, Liverpool were not attacking teams. Etc. and so on. The idea that teams became defensive once Greek one is rubbish. Teams, even small ones, just became better at defending as teaching defending is easier in little time than attacking. Those attacking teams that were successful were teams playing together a lot at either club or national team level.
 
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At the end, quality offensive minded teams will win the world cup. This defensive style only works in the first round and doesn't make you to go through to next stage.
 
Oct 16, 2002
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At the end, quality offensive minded teams will win the world cup. This defensive style only works in the first round and doesn't make you to go through to next stage.
No not true. The "offensive" teams are now playing the garbage football themselves, because they have to. There's no incentive to nice attacking football. KIRI football wins while good football is punished.
 
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we are in the information age with every single match being on tv
and available in the remotest corners of the world.that means there
are no more surprises like 40 or even 30 years ago.players and coaches
see the game and adopt to it.i bet you the iran approach to spain will inspire
countless coaches to try the same at their own level.that is the future of
the sport.