Hope French and Mali soldiers can eradicate the Islamic disease and its sharia law from Mali

Jun 9, 2004
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So lets help alghaede in Syria, but kill them in Mali. . lol
Who's helping them in Syria?! These mofos pop up everywhere there's a power vacuum and they're the only reason Syrian rebels are NOT receiving any major help from the outside the world. Most of them crossed into Syria from Iraq and some through Turkey and now they've completely taken over the rebellion and following their own agenda (i.e. not following the command structure set up by the SNC or it predecessor. The last thing anyone needs (especially in the ME) is a fully armed Islamist group at Israel's door steps, particularly with shoulder fired SAM's. So, they're the sole reason the rebels have not received those weapons (at least not in large numbers) and pro-Assad forces are still ruling the skies.
 

Chinaski

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Bebin chi migam Parham. Nazaar kessi dideto keder kone oonam baa ye seri harfaaye bi saro tah o bi paayeh. Nemigam harfaaye in seyyed ro nakhoon, cheraa bekhoon montaahaa man migam did e khodet kheyli be vaagheyat nazdik tar bood taa harfaaye in baba. Harfaaye in seyyed chize khaasi nist, chekidei hast az mozakhrafaati ke too multimedia mishnavim ke oonam khodesh chekidei hast az harfe dolat haaye amrikaa o europaa. Khob, in ro mano to khoob midoonim ke harfe in dolat haa moft ham nemiarze va serfan baraaye avaam faribi o propagandaast. Dolate Amrika khodesh taa be emrooz bishtar az 50, 60 dolate dictator roo kaar aavorde o azashoon hemaayat karde ye serishoonam khodeshoonam dige enkaar nemikonan. Pas be harfe kesaani ke manba'e etelaateshoon mozakhrafaate FOX news o CNN o yani dar asl hamoon US administration hast nemishe etemaad kard. Nemooneye baarezesh hamoon koso sheri bood ke dar morede selaah haaye shimiaaiye Saddam bood, ke bikhod o bijahat va be ghasd kardan too paachash dar soorati ke nadaasht o maloom ham shod badesham hamoonaai ke jang ro be in bahaane shoroo kardan oomadan goftan: khob haalaa eshtebaah shode, hamini ke hast. Kollan be harfe kessi ke bekhaatere ghodratesh soaal javaabesh nemishe kard, yani mohaakemash nemishe kard hichvaght etemaad nakon.

Too Liby, oomadan yeki az bozorgtarin va radical tarin shabake haaye Al Qaida ro taa dandoon mosallah kardan tori ke az arteshe liby vazeshoon behtar bood, mozdoore eslaami kharidan andaakhtan be joone Ghazzafi khodeshoonam az havaa o zamin be in mard hamle kardan aakharesham daadanesh daste ye mosht mosalmoon bisaro paa ke oonaa ham koshtanesh. Pas kaar naameye hamchin derakhshaani nadaaran in aadam haa. Pas in chand khatte seyyed ro bekhoon vali ziaad jeddi nagir chon chizi azash bedast nemiaari, harfi nemizane ke vaagheyat ro baraat roshan kone, bishtar davat be doroogh baavari o saadeh lohi mikone.

Haalaa man ye chizi migam. Biaa in thread ro bekhoon toosh kheyli chizaa neveshtam, makhsoosan raftan link jam kardam. Aslan harfe mano vel kon. Boro link haaro bekhoon, az hoosh, mantegh va zehniate khodet estefaade kon o bebin kodoom harf be vaagheyat nazdik tare.

http://forums.iransportspress.com/showthread.php?78225-Iran-Syria/page2
 

parham79

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Who's helping them in Syria?! These mofos pop up everywhere there's a power vacuum and they're the only reason Syrian rebels are NOT receiving any major help from the outside the world. Most of them crossed into Syria from Iraq and some through Turkey and now they've completely taken over the rebellion and following their own agenda (i.e. not following the command structure set up by the SNC or it predecessor. The last thing anyone needs (especially in the ME) is a fully armed Islamist group at Israel's door steps, particularly with shoulder fired SAM's. So, they're the sole reason the rebels have not received those weapons (at least not in large numbers) and pro-Assad forces are still ruling the skies.
Who do you think is allowing Qatar and Saudi finance and arm Al-Nusra terrorists? The west knows fully well that the Saudi and Qataris are arming them with Cash to feed the aleppo people to setup an base there. They are also supplied heavily with anti-tank missiles along with SA-7 shoulder mounted anti-arcraft weapons and in some cases with T-62 tanks purchased frm Libya. There is a reason why these algheda terrorists are capturing all this air bases and army barricks so easily. They are the best armed group faction with the Saudi and Qatari royal houses with the full blessing of Mr Obama who btw is implementing Carters idiotic moslim green block which destroyed Iran.
 
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Who do you think is allowing Qatar and Saudi finance and arm Al-Nusra terrorists? The west knows fully well that the Saudi and Qataris are arming them with Cash to feed the aleppo people to setup an base there. They are also supplied heavily with anti-tank missiles along with SA-7 shoulder mounted anti-arcraft weapons and in some cases with T-62 tanks purchased frm Libya. There is a reason why these algheda terrorists are capturing all this air bases and army barricks so easily. They are the best armed group faction with the Saudi and Qatari royal houses with the full blessing of Mr Obama who btw is implementing Carters idiotic moslim green block which destroyed Iran.
No one is arming the Al-Nusra brigade directly and in-fact they are the sole reason the FSA is not receiving more outside help - because the arms that are meant for the FSA are ending up in these guys' hands. They're no longer even following the direction or command structure of the FSA and made that public a few weeks ago. Whatever heavy weapons they're getting is from the army bases and weapons' depots that they've taken over from the regime, that's why they're all Russian produced weapons. Neither S. Arabia, nor Qatar, nor the US are operators of the SAM-7 while Syria was/is, so to assume that they got it through those sources, rather than having ransacked them from Syrian arms depots is a bit of a stretch, as is the logistics of buying tanks from Libya, landing them on a Syrian port and bypassing all of Assad's security to get these onto the battlefield. The more likely scenario is that they're some of the 1000 or so T-62's that were in service in Syria at the beginning of the uprising. There are tons of videos and news reports of the rebels having ceased these types of equipment.

And they are the best armed group, because they're the best trained and most experienced group of fighters. They're fearless and brutal and have a much smaller and cohesive command structure than the FSA and they're also more ideologically united than the rest of the FSA. I supposed anyone can make any type of claim, but you have to weigh the odds in evaluating that claim. There is nothing that would serve the US or Europe's interest by having a bunch of Islamist terrorists gain power in Syria, next door to Israel. Any further break-up of Syria, is in direct contravention of US and Israeli interests. As far as S. Arabia, they would do anything to reduce Iranian and Shi'ite influence in the region, so it's not out of the realm of possibilities for them to aid the FSA or even certain extremist Islamic groups like the Al-Nusra, but that's the Saudis for you.
 
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parham79

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1st of all you dont need to operate SA-7 to get you're hands on on it. Thats what the black market is for and the Alghaede and ther factions in Libya have hundreds of them that Qataris can buy it from .Second of all, the Tanks are coming from the northern border with Turkey which is contrlled by the rebels. They are air lifted from libya by Qatar sent to Turkey and then taken into syria via the north. It's not a logistical nightmare. Were not talking abut MOVING FIGHTER PLANES HERE.Majority of tanks cpatured frm Assad bases are either damaged or destroyed. Maybe one or two are still able to operate.These terrorist groups are controlled by the Qataris. The west dosent want a winner. It wants to send all these terrorists into syria to so them and Assad can finish eachother off. weaken eachther and in the long run thats in the wesdts best interest. Assad gets tottaly weakened and thousends of jihadists who they probaly would have had to fight elsewhere die in syria.The FSA secularists are the victims here no doubt of the double faced game played. Thats why they complain of lack of help t them but alot of help from the arab countries to the Salafists and Alghaede factions.
 
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1st of all you dont need to operate SA-7 to get you're hands on on it. Thats what the black market is for and the Alghaede and ther factions in Libya have hundreds of them that Qataris can buy it from .Second of all, the Tanks are coming from the northern border with Turkey which is contrlled by the rebels. They are air lifted from libya by Qatar sent to Turkey and then taken into syria via the north. It's not a logistical nightmare. Were not talking abut MOVING FIGHTER PLANES HERE.Majority of tanks cpatured frm Assad bases are either damaged or destroyed. Maybe one or two are still able to operate.These terrorist groups are controlled by the Qataris. The west dosent want a winner. It wants to send all these terrorists into syria to so them and Assad can finish eachother off. weaken eachther and in the long run thats in the wesdts best interest. Assad gets tottaly weakened and thousends of jihadists who they probaly would have had to fight elsewhere die in syria.The FSA secularists are the victims here no doubt of the double faced game played. Thats why they complain of lack of help t them but alot of help from the arab countries to the Salafists and Alghaede factions.
Like I said, anyone can make any claim. Are you speculating on these things or do you have verifiable sources for this information? As an example, did you read in some Turkish newspaper or some other source that locals in Turkey saw T-62 tanks crossing into Syria from Turkey? Did some news outlet interview someone in the Al-Nusra brigade and they said they're transporting tanks by plane from Libya, through Turkey and into Syria or that Qatar and the United States are providing them with SAM-7's? Is this all speculation or based on something (other than someone else's speculative opinion) that you've read? If it is based on a reliable source, I would definitely be interested in studying it.
 

Chinaski

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LOL. Reliable source! It all comes down what you consider a reliable soucrce. FOX? CNN? Reuters? All those media outlets who are actually fighting assad? What do you consider reliable? Az key taa haalaa to donbaale madrako dalil hasti? To ye mojoodi hasti eyne 4P. Ye omr vaasash az too khode ghoraan soore o aaye miaavordim vaghti harfi vaase goftan nadaasht migoft in arabi ro be in saadegi nemishe tarjomeh kard!!! To ke donbaale fact nisti seyyed, to donbaale safsate o maghlate o dorooghi.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/21/w...rms-to-syrian-rebels.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=54414
http://www.examiner.com/article/us-helping-to-train-and-arm-islamic-mercenaries-to-fight-syria
http://www.infowars.com/al-qaeda-terrorists-airlifted-from-libya-to-aid-syrian-opposition/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ew-rulers-offer-weapons-to-Syrian-rebels.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-admits-his-fighters-have-al-Qaeda-links.html
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/21/w...rms-to-syrian-rebels.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0: "The C.I.A. officers have been in southern Turkey for several weeks, in part to help keep weapons out of the hands of fighters allied with Al Qaeda or other terrorist groups, one senior American official said."

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=54414: Not that an article where the writer doesn't even provide his name is a "reliable source", but where does it say in this article that the US, Qatar or Saudi Arabia are arming the Al-Nusta brigade or helping Al-Qaeda?!!!

http://www.examiner.com/article/us-helping-to-train-and-arm-islamic-mercenaries-to-fight-syria: Written by some disgruntled US soldier who quotes Press TV and other Iranian news sources and then misquotes the infowars article that you've posted below.

http://www.infowars.com/al-qaeda-terrorists-airlifted-from-libya-to-aid-syrian-opposition/: Again, this is just a mish mash of other articles and someone's speculative opinion on what those articles mean. No, that's not considered a reliable source.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ew-rulers-offer-weapons-to-Syrian-rebels.html: I scanned the article quickly, but there's not a single mention of Al-Qaeda, Al-Nusra, SAM-7's or T-62's anywhere in this article!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-admits-his-fighters-have-al-Qaeda-links.html: All this article says is that Al-Qaeda fighters are fighting in Syria. That's pretty common knowledge at this point and it's not like I said they're not in Syria. In fact, this article confirms what I said that many of them crossed into Syria from Iraq. There's no mention of them being funded by the US, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, T-62's and SAM-7's in this article.

LOL. Reliable source! To ke donbaale fact nisti seyyed, to donbaale safsate o maghlate o dorooghi.
I thought you were basavaad in the sense that could at least read something, no? If you're drawing "facts" from these sources, I guess I was even wrong about that and I wonder who's after "safsate o maghlate o dorroghi"?!
 
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Chinaski

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Kheyli khande daare, ye source mish mashe, ye source esmesho nemige, ye source harfe presstv ro mizane, ye source ke aslan hichi nemige...kolli az in harfaaro ro ham az too maatahtet dar miaari. Oon examiner ke migie disgruntled us soldier, ye aadame dars khoondast, chon harfi ro mizane ke to doost nadaari mishe disgruntled us soldier. To in kesaafat kaariaa motasefaane too khoonete dige khodeto neshoon daadi. Haalaa taa delet bekhaad koso sheraaye US Administration o FOX news, vaasat lezzat bakhshan, doroogheshoonam vaasat dorooghe elaahiye yani baaz mohtarame. To in tip aadami seyyed. Goftam ke to donbaale fact nisti. To eyne 4P amal mikoni montaahaa oon say mikone kessaafat kaaria haaye ghoraan ro bepooshoone, to say mikoni kesaafat kaari haaye US administration ro bepooshooni ke too in jaryaan mahaarate khaasi ham nadaari, chon khode US Administration baar haa be kesaafat kaari haaye khodesh eteraaf karde fagaht to in vasat shodi kaaseye daagh tar aash o sange inaaro be sine mikoobi. Hattaa vaghti eslaamist sare kaar miaaran baaz tarafdaareshooni. Hooraa keshe US administration too in site. Che shohrati :)

Haalaa Man oomadam vaasat na faghat oon jaryaaene Tank haaro balke say kardam ye chand taa link dar morede nazidikiye terrorist haaaye liby va terrorist haaye sooriye (ke tedaade ziaadishoon hamoon terrorist haai hastan ke dar liby ham be NATO o US khedmat kardan), ham vaasat bezaaram ke bebini in harfaa ke too in donyaa zade mishe, hamash bikhod o birabt nist. Age mikhoondi, mifahmidi ke inaa hame be ham rabt daaran. Hamoon eslaamist haaye Liby ke Amrika beheshoon komak kard o aslahe beheshoon daaad, alaan hamoon aslahe haa o hamoon eslaamistaa ro vaarede sooriye kardan be esme "mellate Sooriye" daaran baa Assad mijangan o jenaayat mikonan. Inaa hamash chizaaiye ke harki ke 2 saat too internet vaght paash bezaare va bitaraf jelo bere, kheyli sari mifahme ke in vasat che aashi vaase mantaghe pokhte shode. Aadam faghat yaa baayad komplett koor baashe, bisavaad baashe, yaa vaaghean yek ensaane naa aadel o bisedaaghat baashe ke biaad o hame in kesaafat kaariaaye US administration ro naa dide begire. Ke to inkaaro mikoni seyyed.Yani dige optimist tarin tarafdaare US Administration ham age faghat yekhoorde sharaf daasht, hadde aghal kaari ke mikard,l be in jaryaanaati ke too afghanestan, eraagh, shomaale afrigha, sooriye, 1979 too iran...pish oomad va daare miaad, shak mikard. Mashkook mishod. Vali to hattaa enghadr ham sheraafat be kharj nemidi seyyed. Bezezinski khodesh migoft maa ye barnaameh rikhtim be esme Green Belt plan...vali bikhiaal, to too hamoon fekre arteshe fereshte zaade amrkaa baash ke daare ye omre vaase mantegheye maa o kollaan vaase donyaa solh o safaa miaare. Bigir bekhaab seyyed.
 
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Kheyli khande daare, ye source ke aslan hichi nemige..
Areh azeez, vaghan kheili khandeh dareh! For someone who thinks everyone else is bisavaad to mention something as a "fact" and then reference a source to prove that "fact" where the source doesn't mention anything about the argument they're making!!! In fact, it's not just funny, it's pathetic and funny. :D