Iran plane crash: Missile strike and engine failure being explored

Zob Ahan

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این مادرجنده ها تا دیروز میگفتن به هیچ عنوان و ساندیس خور کص ننه پست میزنه که آیا بویینگ ۷۳۷ امنه
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هنوز تمام مزخرفاتشون توی روزنامه ها (لجن نامه ها) ی دیروز روی سایت پیشخوان هست. از این ملت و دولت جاکش تر وجود نداره
 

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🔹مسئولین همون روز و ثانیه اول میتونستن این خبر رو به مردم بدن و اعلام کنن که خطای انسانی باعث بروز این حادثه شده ولی اتفاق عجیب اینجاست که تا آخرین لحظه که مقامات بین المللی پای جعبه سیاه نیومدن همچین اعترافی نکردن!

🔹و شروع کردن به بازی دادن رسانه‌های داخلی و خارجی! انواع و اقسام علت‌ها رو برای اینکه شلیک موشک به هواپیما اتفاق نیافتاده رو سر هم کردن! در حالیکه همون لحظه از موضوع خبر داشتن!

🔹شبکه‌های خارجی با دلایل علمی (جای ترکش روی بدنه هواپیما، فیلم پرتاب، آتش گرفتن موتور، نوع موشک) اثبات کرده بودند که این اتفاق ناشی از شلیک موشک بوده نه نقض فنی ولی مسئولین بازم دست از پنهان‌کاری برنداشتند
 
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I have a feeling they didnt know themselves at first! Sepah didnt tell the rest, then they tried to hide the evidence and couldn't, otherwise they could just say the blackbox is missing and hide the aircraft pierced pieces to at least prolong the investigation if not leave it inconclusive.
 
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ChaharMahal

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I have a feeling they didnt know themselves at first! Sepah didnt tell the rest, then they tried to hide the evidence and couldn't, otherwise they could just say the blackbox is missing and hide the aircraft pierced pieces to at least prolong the investigation if not leave it inconclusive.
The Missile was not shot by Iran's main air defense run by Artesh.

it was apparently (not confirmed) shot by Sepah.

Pretty sure this information within hours made it up the chain to Sepah's Hava Faza Force.

When there was report initially that this was not due to a missile strike, they probably tried to cover it up.


the main question is why Abedzadeh (Sazman Havaiee Keshvari) was so incompetent to come on TV and lie repeatedly.

Did they keep him in the Dark? did they tell him to go lie?

why did open his trap before listening to his experts taking a look at the engine.
 

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the main question is why Abedzadeh (Sazman Havaiee Keshvari) was so incompetent to come on TV and lie repeatedly.

Did they keep him in the Dark? did they tell him to go lie?

why did open his trap before listening to his experts taking a look at the engine.
Yeah, I dont get it. They really fucked Abedzadeh, I watched him last night on TV, he kept saying it wasnt us, this is BS, they are making it look like it was us, we have nothing to hide, and less than 24 hours they said they did it? WTF ... nothing makes sense.
 

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There are a lot of things that don't add up here.

1. How could Iran's air defense tell the difference between an unmanned drone and manned spy plane in Persian Gulf but not be able to recognize a passenger plane?

2. This plane was only a few minutes away from the airport and was flying away from it so even a simple radar and operator should've been able to recognize that it's moving away and unlikely to be a danger. If it was flying from abroad towards Tehran then it would be more understandable.

3. How is it that every foreign intel, even Canada's intel, knew about a missile having been fired by Iran's air defense system but Iranian defense department itself didn't know and didn't have inventory of missiles fired until two days later?!!

4. What is the explanation of the video capturing the moment of impact? Are we to believe that some guy in Iran in the middle of nowhere with dogs barking in the background just so happened to have his cellphone camera on at that exact part of the sky and just accidentally captured the moment of impact and then had the knowhow on how to send it to New York Times or whichever news outlet got a hold of it first? And you can hear the dog barking in the background but no word from the person shooting the video to at least comment about what he saw in the sky!

5. IR's explanation is that the plane made. a sudden turn which raised alarm and caused the "person" accidentally think the plane was a threat. But the plane didn't make a sudden turn until after it was hit. It only made the sudden turn because it wanted to turn back to the airport for emergency landing! WTF.

I would not be surprised if some rouge elements in the defense department orchestrated this and the IR defense department is now too embarrassed to admit that it may have molls in such sensitive positions and would rather just say it was an unintentional mistake.

 
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Chinaski

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جانوران حقیر.... اگه این پرواز داخلی بود و سرنشینانش به جای شهروند کانادا همه رعیت ایرانی بودن، با همون یه جمله نقص فنی همه چی تموم میشد و هرکی هم زیادی حرف می‌زد میکردنش مزدور دشمن و پدر صاحب بچه رو هم در میاوردن... بی‌دفاع ترین ملت دنیا...
خارکسه ها ببین چه احتیاطی به خرج دادن که مبادا خون از دماغ یه آمریکایی بریزه، اونوقت ۱۸۰ نفرو اینجوری میفرستن اون دنیا، ۱۵۰۰ نفر گرسنه و رسوا و بدبخت که صداشون در اومده بود رو تو روز روشن کشتن جسدای چوب شدشونو هنوزم دارن از تو دشت و رود در میارن.... انتقام سختو دارن از مردم ایران میگیرن، منتها انتقام چیرو دیگه؟ بابا هرکاری خواستید این ملت احمق انجام دادن که! گفتید جون، دادن، گفتید کون اونم دادن، گفتید پول و مال، دادن، گفتید ابرو حیثیت، گفتید ناموس، شرف... مردم احمق در اختیارتون گذاشتن... اشتباهشون هم همون بود. به جای جنگ تمام عیار با شما خارکسه ها سر دار و ندارشون نشستن منتظرن برانکو میاد یا نه، فرهاد مجیدی میتونه یا نه...
 

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هنوز تمام مزخرفاتشون توی روزنامه ها (لجن نامه ها) ی دیروز روی سایت پیشخوان هست. از این ملت و دولت جاکش تر وجود نداره
مادر قحبه ها رسانه هاشون شدن کاسه داغ تر از آش. بعد اینکه گفتن خودشون زدن هنوز تو روزنامه هاشون داشتن دروغ های قبلی رو چاپ میکردن.
 

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Honestly, just the fact that for once, for fucking once, they took responsibility for their fuck up is praiseworthy.
No it isn't. It's only because they had to deal with Boeing, the Ukranian and Canadian governments. Otherwise they would easily have whitewashed it.

And even now they are trying to make themselves look good. Even now Mazloom namaayi mikonan. Apparently Khamenei has said "saadeghaneh v sarih ba mardon sohbat konid". What does this mean? To me it means that even when they fuck up they try to make themselves look good. When does Khamenei believe in honesty and talking to the people? Never.

I give them no praise for this.
 
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There are a lot of things that don't add up here.

1. How could Iran's air defense tell the difference between an unmanned drone and manned spy plane in Persian Gulf but not be able to recognize a passenger plane?

2. This plane was only a few minutes away from the airport and was flying away from it so even a simple radar and operator should've been able to recognize that it's moving away and unlikely to be a danger. If it was flying from abroad towards Tehran then it would be more understandable.

3. How is it that every foreign intel, even Canada's intel, knew about a missile having been fired by Iran's air defense system but Iranian defense department itself didn't know and didn't have inventory of missiles fired until two days later?!!

4. What is the explanation of the video capturing the moment of impact? Are we to believe that some guy in Iran in the middle of nowhere with dogs barking in the background just so happened to have his cellphone camera on at that exact part of the sky and just accidentally captured the moment of impact and then had the knowhow on how to send it to New York Times or whichever news outlet got a hold of it first? And you can hear the dog barking in the background but no word from the person shooting the video to at least comment about what he saw in the sky!

5. IR's explanation is that the plane made. a sudden turn which raised alarm and caused the "person" accidentally think the plane was a threat. But the plane didn't make a sudden turn until after it was hit. It only made the sudden turn because it wanted to turn back to the airport for emergency landing! WTF.

I would not be surprised if some rouge elements in the defense department orchestrated this and the IR defense department is now too embarrassed to admit that it may have molls in such sensitive positions and would rather just say it was an unintentional mistake.


خفه شو مادر جنده. یه کم خجالت بکش. حتا الان هم نمیتونی دست از حمایت از این رژیم برداری؟ یه توجیهی برای سرپوش باید پیدا کنی؟

حالا فهمیدین هواپیمای بندرعباس رو کی زد؟ یا هواپیمای خبرنگاران رو؟ ولی چون در اون حوادث طرفشون خارج نبود ماست مالی شد.

خلاصه که انتقام سخت رو فقط از ملت ایران گرفتن چون زورشون به آمریکا نمیرسه. البته ۴۰ سال همینه. بدتر از این هم میشه.
 
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سال هاست دنیا میگه این رژیم نباید سلاح هسته این داشته باشه. یک عده الاغ مثل همین اشتر مادر جنده و اون ژنرال کونده میان میگن حقمونه.


حالا می‌فهمی چرا اینا نباید به سلاح اتمی برسن.
 
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آموزش و پرورش: دانش‌آموزان بازداشتی اعتراض‌های آبان باید پاسخگوی عملکردشان باشند

وزارت آموزش و پرورش ایران ضمن تایید بازداشت تعدادی از دانش‌آموزان در جریان اعتراض‌های سراسری آبان‌ماه اعلام کرد آن‌ها باید «پاسخگوی عملکردشان» باشند.

منصور اردستانی، مدیرکل دفتر حقوقی املاک و حمایت قضایی این وزارتخانه، روز شنبه ۲۱ دی‌ماه در گفت‌وگو با خبرگزاری ایلنا در این زمینه اظهار کرد: «در صورتی که دانش‌آموزان به سن بلوغ یا رشد نرسیده باشند، اولیای آن‌ها باید پاسخگو باشند و سپس خود دانش‌آموزان بایستی در قبال عملکردشان در خارج از زمان رسمی آموزش و خارج از مدرسه پاسخ بدهند.»