IRAN: Vanished photo shows angry Khamenei amid tensions following speech

Feb 17, 2009
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IRAN: Vanished photo shows angry Khamenei amid tensions following speech



What could have made Iran's supreme leader so visibly angry?
The extraordinary photo above -- posted to the website of Iran's hard-line Fars news agency but then quickly taken down -- shows supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, at center with his hand raised, extremely angry after the conclusion of the June 4 ceremony commemorating the founder of the Islamic Republic, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.
During that event, hard-line supporters of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad began angrily shouting down Khomeini's grandson, Hassan -- who appears in a black turban at the top right corner of the picture -- as he delivered a speech in honor of his grandfather.

Hassan is considered a supporter of moderate opposition leaders Mir Hossein Mousavi and Mehdi Karroubi.
Just next to Khomeini appears to be a white-turbaned Ayatollah Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, another regime pillar sympathetic to the opposition.
Other political insiders -- including Interior Minister Mostafa Mohammed Najjar -- also appear in the photo. Some newspapers reported that Khomeini and Najjar, a confidant of Ahmadinejad, got into a scuffle after the ceremony.
There are rumors that Khamenei was reprimanding his deputies for not calming the unruly crowd and letting Khomeini deliver his speech. Or simply that he was complaining that there was no published schedule for the speakers. But in the controversy stirred up by the event, others see tensions between Khamenei and a new generation of brash Revolutionary Guard and Basjii commanders who don't adhere to their elders' rules of decorum.
Those commanders, whom Ahmadinejad represents, are slowly pushing aside the clergy, the thinking goes.
The crowd that heckled Khomeini was led by this new group of military and paramilitary professionals, whom Mousavi describes as a "cult."
-- Los Angeles Times
Photo: Supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, center, upbraids others in the minutes following the ceremony commemorating the death of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini. Credit: Fars News Agency
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Chinaski

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I dont fucking care about why this bitch could be angry, i just look at those disgusting, dark, oghdei and ugly faces and get mad about the fact that these animals are as iranian as i am, they are allowed to call themselves iranians aswell as i do. what a shame
 
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The story as I understood is that AN is asked to cut his speech while he was critising
Hassan Khomeini. AN gets angry and says I am the elected president what kind of behavior is this?
Since Hassan dose not like AN he knew that hassan could use the opportunity to critisise
AN and SL. So he had prepared for it.
Khomeini vs Khamenei ?
Who will win?
 

Payandeh Iran

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The story as I understood is that AN is asked to cut his speech while he was critising
Hassan Khomeini. AN gets angry and says I am the elected president what kind of behavior is this?
Since Hassan dose not like AN he knew that hassan could use the opportunity to critisise
AN and SL. So he had prepared for it.
Khomeini vs Khamenei ?
Who will win?
Shoghaaleh bisheyeh Mazandaran raa
Nadarad (1) joz sageh Mazandarani

(1): or Nadarad or Nagaayad or ...
 

khodam

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http://mmoeeni99.blogspot.com/2010/06/14.html


مهم: پشت صحنه مراسم 14 خرداد



متن کامل نامه محمد علی انصاری به حجت الاسلام سید حسن خمینی را اینجا (+) بخوانید

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خلاصه نامه:
آرزو داشتم چهاردهم خرداد نقطه عطفی برای دوری از کدورتها واختلافها و جدایی ها گردد ... روز سه شنبه 31 فروردین آقای وحید و تنی چند از اعضاء دفتر مقام معظم رهبری در جلسه کمیته طرح و برنامه ستاد بزرگداشت در جماران شرکت فرمودند ... پیشنهاد کردم برای اینکه لغو مراسم شبهای حرم شائبه سیاسی کاری در اذهان جامعه به وجود نیاورد بهتر است قبل از نماز جمعه، دو سخنران دیگر، یکی ریاست جمهوری و دیگری جنابعالی داشته باشیم ... (توسط آقای وحید از دفتر رهبری تاکید شد) افراد خاصی ( که ایشان نام بردند ) نباید تحت هیچ شرایط در مراسم حضور یابند و افراد دیگری را نیز ذکر نمودند که نباید دعوت شوند ... در مورد سخنرانی جنابعالی اظهار داشتند این برنامه طبق روال گذشته باید انجام شود و ما بر اوضاع مسلط هستیم ... به روال هه ساله طی نامه ای از ریاست محترم جمهور درخواست نمودم که نماینده ویژه ی خود و دولت را به ستاد معرفی فرمایند که پاسخ این درخواست با تاخیر انجام شد و ابتدا شفاهی سپس در تاریخ سوم خرداد هشتاد و نه جناب آقای اسفندیار رحیم مشایی ریاست محترم دفتر رئیس جمهوری طی نامه ای خطاب به اینجانب جناب آقای نجار وزیر محترم کشور را به عنوان نماینده ی ویژه ی رئیس جمهوری به ستاد معرفی فرمودند ... در طول بیست سال گذشته روال بر این بود که مسائل و برنامه کلان مراسم را اینجانب در مصاحبه مطبوعاتی اعلام کنم ... متاسفانه مصاحبه ی مطبوعاتی بعضی از عزیزان پر تلاش ستاد بزرگداشت که تحت عنوان قرارگاه شهید فهمیده دو سه روز قبل از مصاحبه ی اینجانب به گونه ای در رسانه ها مطرح شد که همه ی مسئولیت های مراسم و تشکیل کارگروه ها به سازمان یا ارگان دیگری غیر از ستادبزرگداشت امام(س) محول شده است! ... به جز امسال اصلا سابقه نداشته است که هیچ مسئولی پیرامون برنامه ی رسمی مراسم حرم جز برنامه ی اعلام شده ی ستاد خبر دیگری منتشر نماید ... متاسفانه رئیس ستاد نماز جمعه تهران مصاحبه ای با این مضمون انجام دادند که نماز جمعه به امامت رهبر معظم انقلاب و خیر مقدم توسط سید حسن مصطفوی خمینی و سخنرانی قبل از خطبه ها رئیس جمهور خواهد بود ... تیم تشریفات آقای رئیس جمهور چند روز قبل با آقای جوادی معاونت فرهنگی حرم جلسه هماهنگی برای تعیین و ساعت حضور ایشان در 11 صبح روز 14 خرداد و ایراد سخنرانی داشتند. و اینجانب موکدا از آقای جوادی خواستم که به آقایان اعلام کند که طبق برنامه مصوب ستاد مرکزی سخنرانی ریاست محترم جمهوری راس ساعت 11 به مدت نیم ساعت پیش بینی و برنامه ریزی شده است ... قضیه اصلی از اینجا آغاز شد که صبح روز چهارده خرداد که طبق توافق قبلی می بایست از ساعت 8 صبح صحن مراسم بروی مردم باز شود ازحدود 6 صبح گروه هایی به صحن وارد می شوند و مستقر می گردند! ... همه ما منتظر بودیم که آقای رئیس جمهور قبل از ساعت 11 حضور داشته باشند نهایتا ایشان حدود ساعت 20/11 دقیقه به محل مراسم رسیدند و به جایگاه سخنرانی رفتند با اینکه 20 دقیقه از زمان مقرر تاخیر بوجود آمد به دوستان نماز جمعه گفتم برای اینکه مشکلی در برنامه پیش نیاید ما برنامه عزاداری بین دو سخنرانی را حذف می کنیم و آقای رئیس جمهور (حتی بیش از نیم ساعت که در برنامه پیش بینی شده بود)می توانند تا ساعت 12 سخنرانی را ادامه دهند ، بعد از ایشان سخنرانی جنابعالی بود. سخنرانی ایشان شروع شد حقیر 5 دقیقه قبل از ساعت 12 در پشت پرده تریبون به جناب آقای شیرمردی رئیس ستاد نماز جمعه تهران و به مجری مراسم عرض کردم که یادداشت بدهید سخنرانی تا ساعت 12 می باشد و شما 5 دقیقه دیگر زمان دارید. یادداشت از طریق مجری به ایشان داده شد ولی سخنرانی ادامه یافت تا دو سه دقیقه بعد از 12 مجددا از مجری درخواست کردم بنویسد که وقت شما گذشته است باز سخنرانی ادامه یافت اینجانب محترمانه و در زمانیکه فرصتی پیش آمد (هنگام تکبیر مردم) به ایشان عرض کردم وقت شما تمام است اعتنا نفرمودند پشت پرده نگاهم به نوشته جناب آقای نجار افتاد که ایشان علی رغم عمل جراحی سینوس ها و شرایط خاص بعد از عمل در جایگاه حضور داشتند که مرقوم می نمودند "جناب آقای رییس جمهور سخنرانی خود را تا ساعت 30/12 ادامه بدهید"!!با این توصیف یقین کردم که بناست نگذارند جنابعالی سخنرانی کنید همزمان که مجری یادداشت جناب آقای نجار را از سمت راست روی تریبون نهاد اینجانب از سمت چپ نامه را برداشتم و برگشتم به جناب آقای نجار اعتراض کردم که شما چه هدفی از این کار دارید آیا این احترام به امام و دودمان امام است. آیا این کار به وحدت جامعه کمک می کند؟ برگشتم کنار تریبون به آقای رئیس جمهور دو سه نوبت عرض کردم وقت شما تمام است که ایشان با اخلاق خاص خود جلوی انظار عمومی و رسانه ها تندی نمودند. و اظهار داشتند برو شما چکاره اید و به سخنان خود ادامه دادند حجم یادداشت باقی مانده سخنرانی ایشان حاکی از آن بود که تا حدود 30/12 ادامه می دهند ... دریافتم که مقام معظم رهبری و روسای قوا و چند تن از شخصیت های روحانی و سیاسی کشور حضور دارند پس از عرض ادب و ارادت خدمت مقام معظم رهبری، به آقای وحید عرض کردم برخلاف انتظار و برنامه های اعلام شده بناست که اقای رئیس جمهور تا زمان نماز به سخنان خود ادامه دهند، اظهار داشتند که با تذکر من قضیه حل نمی شود، به ناچار خدمت مقام معظم رهبری و در حضور میهمانان عرض کردم که ظاهرا بنابر اینست که نگذارند آقای حاج سید حسن آقا سخنرانی کنند که ایشان با قاطعیت فرمودند: "برای چه؟ " حتما باید ایشان سخنرانی کنند". تا آنجا که من می دانم پس از این مطلب نیز جنابعالی درخواست نمودید که با توجه به ضیق وقت سخنرانی نکنید که معظم له بر سخنرانی شما تاکید و به جناب آقای وحید نیز در این رابطه سفارشی داشته اند. خلاصه بعد از این ماجراها جناب آقای رئیس جمهور تا حدود ساعت 15/12 به سخنرانی ادامه داده و با کمال تأسف در پایان سخنرانی خویش این مطلب را (که اعلان آن شأن و وظیفه مجری برنامه است ) اعلام می نمایند که: اینک توجه شما را به سخنان رهبری جلب می کنم! جای تعجب اینکه پس از سخنرانی نیز اینجانب را مورد خطاب و عتاب قرار داده که شما چکاره اید و به چه حقی به من یادداشت می دهید من رئیس جمهور این ملت هستم. و جناب آقای نجار نیز با تکیه بر اینکه ایشان 25 میلیون رای دارند کسی حق محدود کردن سخنرانی وی را ندارد مطالبی را بیان کردند ... اکنون با توجه به این گزارش اجمالی که در آن از ذکر ناگفته های دیگری که مکتوب نمودن آنرا صلاح نمی دانم چند نکته حائز اهمیت دیگر را عرض می کنم: ... اگر مسئولیت این گروه اندک را کسی به عهده نمی گیرد چرا از شناسایی آنان واهمه می شود. در حوادث یکسال اخیر بسیاری از افراد از طریق تصاویر تلفن همراه و غیره شناسایی و دستگیر شده اند اما این گروه که بدون نقاب و در فاصله دو متری دهها دوربین پر قدرت و فیلم برداری صداو سیما و خبرنگاران بودند و از اول تا آخر سخنرانی جنابعالی جست و خیز و هیاهو می کردند و برنامه ای بدین عظمت را در بیش انظار جهانیان آنگونه مشوه جلوه دادند ، قابل شناسایی نیستند؟... بسیار سنگین و ناباورانه بود که عده ای تمام همت خود را صرف جلوگیری از برنامه سخنرانی شما نمایند .حال سوال اساسی این است که دست آورد این کار برای نظام چیست؟ آیا این هنر نظام است که ما مراسمی را برپا کنیم و صدها هزار جمعیت را از سراسر کشور و از برخی نقاط دنیا در حرم فرابخوانیم اما بواسطه زمینه هایی که عرض کردم و بدنبال آن عملکرد جاهلانه عده ای قلیل به گونه ای تفسیر و حتی با کمال تأسف در برخی روزنامه های رسمی تحلیل شود که اهل بیت امام هم جزء مخالفین هستند؟! 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Oct 18, 2002
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Seyed Ali geda yavash yavash dare halish mishe ke hadaf baadi hojatiyeh va fergheye rayehe chooso, khodesh hast.......
Shayad ham vase hamine mousavi va karoubi ro zendeh negah dashte ke vaght khodesh dir tar berese!
 

k-EYVON

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Oct 20, 2003
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I think Khamenei understood what damage was done
by jeering Hassan Khomeini speech organized.
Ahmadinejad played hard and stubborn and it back fired and
the supereme burrito knew that well right away



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Feb 17, 2009
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khamenei never looked angry like this before.
and people getting pushed to the wall in presence of the supreme leader, wtf ?
khar to khare
 
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Seyed Ali geda yavash yavash dare halish mishe ke hadaf baadi hojatiyeh va fergheye rayehe chooso, khodesh hast.......
Shayad ham vase hamine mousavi va karoubi ro zendeh negah dashte ke vaght khodesh dir tar berese!
Please notice that the group that were chanting against Hassane khomeini were also chanting "Ahmadie bot shekan bote bozorgo beshkan".
Mosavi and Karobi want khamenei to realize the AN has a large plan.
It is not so easy for khamenei to fire AN. Is it?
Excluding Khamenei is one of them. I believe when AN was in US he was
told that the guy who decieds in Iran is khamenei not you!
So he works in that direction.
It really is a dificult case. You don't know whose side you should be. The old line Khomeinis line or AN's line? Which one is better?
 
Feb 17, 2009
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Please notice that the group that were chanting against Hassane khomeini were also chanting "Ahmadie bot shekan bote bozorgo beshkan".
Mosavi and Karobi want khamenei to realize the AN has a large plan.
It is not so easy for khamenei to fire AN. Is it?
Excluding Khamenei is one of them. I believe when AN was in US he was
told that the guy who decieds in Iran is khamenei not you!
So he works in that direction.
It really is a dificult case. You don't know whose side you should be. The old line Khomeinis line or AN's line? Which one is better?
but ahmadinejad will be out of office in 3 years and he will be history forever.
thats what makes all the theories invalid
 
Oct 18, 2002
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Please notice that the group that were chanting against Hassane khomeini were also chanting "Ahmadie bot shekan bote bozorgo beshkan".
Mosavi and Karobi want khamenei to realize the AN has a large plan.
It is not so easy for khamenei to fire AN. Is it?
Excluding Khamenei is one of them. I believe when AN was in US he was
told that the guy who decieds in Iran is khamenei not you!
So he works in that direction.
It really is a dificult case. You don't know whose side you should be. The old line Khomeinis line or AN's line? Which one is better?
The nature of Islamic republic's thurst for power is like having a worm in a compost pile.They have to keep eating, and if there is nothing else to eat they will eat themselves.
Look at it from begining. Under behind the scene leadership and direction of Forghan ,which I suspect was the militant branch fremason hojatiye they started eliminating other political tendencies and eventually through their influence, they got rid of those who made Islamic Republic a reality: nehzat azadi,mojahedin,....
Then like a worms that can never disappear in a compost,people like parvaresh, mesbah yazdi started training and positioning their cadre in government until the perfect opportune moment that they placed key allies in sepah (zolghadr and many others) in power positions . They promoted Ardabil's governance gang ( An , Mahsouli and few others) gave them executive powers and had mashaii and najjari to watch dog them.
In fact ,many thaught that AN would be one to get rid of akhundism in Iran ( bot bozorg shekan). But like many previously repeated IRI games, AN's mission is just to replace one brand akhundism,( ideologically bancrupt) with another that is not all that well known to populace with some secular faces ( mesbah, parvaresh and the rest of hojatiye gang).Menwhile the concession is for sepah to rule and own Iran's economy.

IF AN is to succeed in eliminating the last bastion of IRI purist, the next Target will be rahbari and 2zari constitution. Velayat Motlaghe is the ultimate goal and paving the way for mahdi will be the new bread and butter of the real revisionist of IRI.
Khamenei and heyat motalefe will be much easier to eliminate than IRI purists.

All these is no secret. AN Rayehe choos boo, clearly stated in their campaign propoganda that "vaght gozar resideh".AN's second term and perhaps prepetual presence at IRI top level will pave the way to establish that Gozar. Gozar az khomeini, constitution, republicanism and initial ideals of IRI. Gozar az islamic republic to islamic khelafat.
 

Natural

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Iran Analysis: 4 June “The Day the Regime Will Regret” (Verde)

Posted by Scott Lucas in Middle East & Iran


Mr Verde writes for EA:
When the history of this post-election conflict is written, the events of Friday, 4 June 2010, may be as significant as last year’s Qods Day and Ashura. They may be even more important.


The regime is trying to pretend that there is no crisis of confidence/legitimacy and that the post-election protests are over. But last Friday, at what was supposed to be the commemoration of Ayatollah Khomeini’s death, President Ahmadinejad was still talking about last year’s elections and the Supreme Leader was still threatening former (and possibly even current) regime officials –– this time with execution. Seyed Hassan Khomeini, the grandson of the Ayatollah, was shouted down during his speech.


Events like the 4 June commemorations are planned well in advance, tightly controlled, and well-choreographed. We can therefore dismiss with great confidence any suggestion that the hecklers were ordinary people acting in the moment. They were thugs organized by regime officials.


Whatever the true intentions of the organizers,these events have and will continue to damage Ayatollah Khamenei. The reason?


There are two possibilities: either the thugs were organized on the order of Khamenei, or the heckling was carried out without his permission.


If Khamenei was kept out of the loop, then he is losing his grip on the Islamic Republic. When a group of regime thugs can barrack Hassan Khomeini with impunity right in front of the Supreme Leader and the world media, when Khamenei cannot even control his audience for a few minutes during an important ceremony. how can one expect him to have control over the actions of other regime officials? (Which, looking backward, raises the question: how can the Supreme Leader claim so confidently that there was no fraud during the June 2009 elections?)


If the thugs were carrying out Khamenei’s orders, then the Islamic Republic is gripped by such a dangerous crisis that its highest official is forced to sacrifice the reputation of his regime in an attempt to embarrass and humiliate another regime insider. If this is the case, then Khamenei’s warm embrace of Hassan Khomeini after the latter’s abandoned speech also points to the nasty, duplicitous personality of the Supreme Leader.


In either case, the events of 4 June have provided a rallying point for Khamenei’s detractors within the regime –– whose numbers, by the way, seem to be growing by the week. It not only Mir Hossein Mousavi and Mehdi Karroubi, but alsoother reformists and even principlists like Ali Motahari have used these events as an excuse to criticise Khamenei personally.


If the intention of the regime’s show on 4 June was to weaken the opponents of Khamenei and Ahmadinejad, the scheme appears to have backfired.


One may argue that the Supreme Leader is trying to wipe out any reference to Ayatollah Khomeini and replace Khomeini’s legacy with his own. The problem is that, since last June, Khamenei’s reputation as a religious and political leader has been damaged. He has not been able to make repairs and all high-profile regime manoeuvres, including last Friday, have brought more damage.


Let’s not forget that the June ceremonies were cut back from 3 days to 1 day this year; despite all the preparations the numbers attending were far less than what he regime had claimed and hoped for; 15 Khordaad (5 June), the day which marks the beginning of the uprising in the 1960s that eventually led to the 1979 Revolution, was completely forgotten this year.
Ayatollah Khomeini is the main pillar of the Islamic Republic. The regime owes its existence to him, and all of its officials claim his approval for their ideas and actions. doing. His burial site, where the 4 June ceremonies were taking place, is similar to the shrines of Shia Imams. The failure of regime officials to capitalise on this –– and by their actions disrespecting his memory –– points to serious problems within the Islamic Republic.


In February, I mentioned that, because of the crisis in the Islamic Republic, the regime will be forced into display that will come back and haunt them. Add the events of 4 June to that growing list.
 
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Ploy by akhoond kahmaenei and the rest of the blood sucking facists. They are fooling the Iranian people again by saying that there is a division among us and there is a hope. Bying time again...