Iran war games

Boss and servant have managed to fool iranians once again by setting up one of their countless war scenarios in the last 40 years where iranians started to say "indafe dige jange". There is no war between the US and IR brother. There is no benefit for the IR to have a full scale war against the US and there is no benefit for the US to get rid of their own self constructed isolated and shia enemy and looloo khorkhore in the middle of a sunni region. Countries who are spending hundreds of milliards of dollars because of their fear of the IR expanding their shia doctrine all over the region (which they are doing relentlessly). These are all manovers to keep up the level of shock and awe. This region needs to be kept in a constant fear of war and violation and the cash will come. Sure Trump is a much bigger puppet than Khamenei but he is a puppet himself nevertheless. Corps. tell him what to do and what to refrain from. Nothings happening, even if the IR downs a much bigger US drone or even jet, the US is ok with that aslong as it makes sure the plans keep working. Many people have forgoten that the same IR has attacked the US base in Saudi Dhahran years ago and killed many US army members and the US government did everything to bail out the IR and white wash them while US courts had already and clearly proven that it was the IR rockets that targeted the US base but at the end the US government didnt even blink and simply ignored the rule of their own courts. Never forget, who is able to plan and organize a flase flag action and kill 3500 of his own people and down two of their own towers just in order to setup a war to impose on Iraq (who never had anything to do with those things), is capable of sacrificing and victimizing own drones, planes, ships, soldiers, citizens...anytime and anywhere if it helps keeping up the plans. US government doesnt care about US citizens, US government is hijacked long ago, their senators and congressmen get bribed on regular basis to raise their hands and serve the interests of the corps and some other powerful elements. US government has actually become the executing arms of bunch of faceless organizations and corporations and those organizations and corps dont have an interest in a war against IR. They are making money by keeping the fear level of countries afraid of IR and those countries are a lot richer and are willing to spend endlessly to BUY and PAY for their security. Why get rid of such an excellent looloo khorkhore? IR has been money for the US since day one. This cow has still alot of milk and they milk it.

In khar kosse haa, whenever iranians hit the streets and threaten the IR, they went mute and even called the same IR a democracy refusing to help iranian people in any way. In such cases they just stay out and watch the IR beat up on their own people and sort things out. This should show you they are not after removing IR. They have never been, they need IR the way they are: Strong enough to stay at charge and put fear in heart of those rich sunni arabs but too weak to be anything more than that.
I think they're much more open about it these days. They've openly said "no regime change" from day 1.

All they're looking to do is make sure everyone else understands I.R's leash is in USA's hand and no one else's. They also need to make sure I.R doesn't get bigger than a certain size.

Trump has been quite honest about it.
 
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کسخول ۱۲۰ میلیون که پولی نیست
خواستن که ردیابی شه بزنن که پاپوش درست کنن...

Why dont you wake the eff up? Stop fooling with camels and sheeps.sound as clueless.
سلام
ردیابی کردند ؟
پاپوش درست کردند ؟
راستی کشتی بریطانیایی هم برای رد یابی و پاپوش بود ؟
این جمله خودت برای خودت واقعا صدق میکنه
Why dont you wake the eff up? Stop fooling with camels and sheeps.sound as clueless
 

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بیشتر از یک ماه گذشت
همانطور که گفتم امریکا زورش به ضعیف ها میرسه اگر یک نفر جلویش قلدری کنه و واقعا زور داشته باشه میکشه کنار
General jan, the U.S. and the Britain have always done zoor gooii and gholdori. However IR's reaction after the capture of the Iranian ship (doing the same, eye for an eye) was very childish and stupid too. What happened to diplomacy? Rouhani's and Zarif's own talks in the beginning, that "talks and diplomacy work" should have been implemented here. IR had some support from the Europeans, including the British against Trump. Now they're losing that too with their simple bacheh bazi.
 

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General jan, the U.S. and the Britain have always done zoor gooii and gholdori. However IR's reaction after the capture of the Iranian ship (doing the same, eye for an eye) was very childish and stupid too. What happened to diplomacy? Rouhani's and Zarif's own talks in the beginning, that "talks and diplomacy work" should have been implemented here. IR had some support from the Europeans, including the British against Trump. Now they're losing that too with their simple bacheh bazi.
I am afraid you are quite wrong. Iran has basically lost the match (official oil exports down to 400k barrels).
no banking, insurance .. access.

as a policy maker when you dont have much to lose it much easier to roll the dice and respond in kind.

any other experienced decision maker would have exactly what IRI did by taking the British ship.

it is about sending a message that it would be not be tolerated if this became the norm.
 

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In recent history, no other country has received so much leniency from the US and the west than IR. Look what they did to Libya and Iraq. But IR seems to get away with unprecedented leniency, from the proxy war in South Lebanon to bombing in Argentina to interfering in Iraq, Yemen and Syria.

It's not because the US is afraid of IR like its simpleton supporters believe, it's because IR is serving a purpose. This regime is the biggest servant to the US interests, more than Shah ever was.
 

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I am afraid you are quite wrong. Iran has basically lost the match (official oil exports down to 400k barrels).
no banking, insurance .. access.

as a policy maker when you dont have much to lose it much easier to roll the dice and respond in kind.

any other experienced decision maker would have exactly what IRI did by taking the British ship.

it is about sending a message that it would be not be tolerated if this became the norm.
But Iran did not lose the match to or because of the British. Like other Europeans, the British were on Iran's side (kind of) when it came to the big game. If it was the Americans taking the Iranian ship, I'd agree with you. A retaliation like this, should have been IR's very last option if nothing else worked but they didn't even try.
 
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In recent history, no other country has received so much leniency from the US and the west than IR. Look what they did to Libya and Iraq. But IR seems to get away with unprecedented leniency, from the proxy war in South Lebanon to bombing in Argentina to interfering in Iraq, Yemen and Syria.

It's not because the US is afraid of IR like its simpleton supporters believe, it's because IR is serving a purpose. This regime is the biggest servant to the US interests, more than Shah ever was.
Iraq under saddam had done nothing sneaky against the US. Everything they did, they did according to international law, they went the right way. While the mullahs shouted marg bar amrika (while being installed by the same americans) no one ever even knew that the Iraqis had closed the US embassy for decades until 1984. They didnt shout it, they just did it, without violating any laws. While the mullahs were running their mouth against Israel, it was iraqi tanks that fought to the last minutes of the war against israel back in 1973. They didnt run their mouth. They did it. While the mullahs were telling Israel has to be wiped off the map, they received weapons from them in the war against Iraq why? because even the israelies knew Iraq is the real threat, IR is talk. Israelies are always in talk with the US, they know IR is a US trojan horse in the region so even they play this game, whenever it counted most, they helped them against the Iraqis. The hostility between IR and Israel is just as simulated. Dont get me wrong, they hate the jews as the shia basically hate everyone else, but the jews know the rotten nature of these IR animals, they wont go overboard and threaten their existence so they just talk big and provoke through hezbollah every now and then but its containable and serves the purpose of keeping up the level of tension. Saddam though was the guy who fired his last rockets in israels direction. He didnt run his mouth, he just did it. He did not send them to us Iranians, he did what he stood for and what he had done before: REALLY opposing israel. IR is all talk. IR is the biggest riaakaar, haroom zaadeh, kareeh and disgusting element in that region and actually all around the world and this is what the US needed. A cancer, a dumb, religiously motivated element of disintegration. They brought them up -fairly easily due to shah having no cojones- to get down Saddam who was a tough nut with a lot bigger balls than shah ever had. IR was tasked from day one to weaken saddam and create disintegration in an otherwise well organized country and so they imposed that war on Iraq, a country that was on record complaining to international courts about IR violating its borders way before they decided to take things in their own hands and defend themselves. Shah and Saddam were about to make the region to a peaceful and secular region all on their own. They were protecting their resources, they were actively pushing up the oil prices by reducing the sell so that a few countries in europe had to disallow their citizens to drive on sundays due to the high oil prices. Saudis never even felt any necesity to pay for weapons. They felt safe. Emirates felt safe. Now tell me if you are US and want to control the price of oil (to sink it) and sell milliards of dollars of weapons, how can you do it without getting rid of the two most important elements of piece and security (governments of iran and iraq)? If everyone feels safe, whom do you sell all those weapons to? If everyone is allowed to protect their national resources and thus push the prices, how do you sink the price of oil without getting rid of those nationalist governments? There is no other way than starting to install elements of disintegration to create insecurity among population and countries of a region and the IR was the first and the by far most important one ecause with IR they not only got rid of Shah, they even achieved their goal to install an absolutely backward, oghdei, agressive shia loolookhorkhore hostile to anything sunni from day one, meaning to everyone else in the region. From day one in office, they started to attack the neighbours and ask for their governments to get toppled. That creates trauma , distabilisation, insecurity and hostility and the US needed it badly in that region to make money. That was gold. IR is gold for the US and all those corps trying to sell weapons and the idea of security. Not in their dreams they could ever make one milliards of that money with shah or with saddam. Today i dont think there is any little country on earth the size of emirates or qatar being nearly as well armed as these two country, not to mention the Saudis who are spending insane numbers year in and year out just to buy themselves security. If everyone feels secure, whom do you sell your weapons and all those security equipments attached to it to?

Making a long story short: IR is not getting attacked because they are their own elements. They are masters of talking the neighbours into fear and infiltrate their inner peace and security with their agressive shia doctrine. Thats IR. US installed snakes to create tension and keep the region hostage.
 
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General jan, the U.S. and the Britain have always done zoor gooii and gholdori. However IR's reaction after the capture of the Iranian ship (doing the same, eye for an eye) was very childish and stupid too. What happened to diplomacy? Rouhani's and Zarif's own talks in the beginning, that "talks and diplomacy work" should have been implemented here. IR had some support from the Europeans, including the British against Trump. Now they're losing that too with their simple bacheh bazi.
سلای جان
ما فقط اسم راه دپلماتیک و عاقلانه را می شنویم
در صورتی که امروز اگر دقت کنی تنها چیزی که باعث میشود کشوری به کشور دیگر زور نگوید همانا قدرت و زورگویی است
در کره شمالی دیدیم که بمبهای اتمی کره باعث شد که امریکا به این کشور حمله نکند
درایران هم کم و بیش همین را میبینیم
برعکس در عراق و افغانستان و لیبی سوریه یمن میبینیم که را دیپلماتیک هیچ سودی ندارد و نداشته
همچنین در مورد اروپایی ها اصلا اروپایی ها هیچ کار واقعی برای دور زدن تحریم های امریکا علیه ایران نکردند
ایران یک سال تمام صبر کرد و تنها حرف و قول از اروپایی ها شنید
در اخر هم یکی از همین کشورهای اروپایی کشتی نفط کش ایرانی را ربود !!ا
تا کمکی غیر مستقیم و حتی مستقیم به این تحریمهای امریکا علیه ایران باشد
اروپایی ها هیچ کاری نمیتوانند بدون اجازه امریکا انجام بدهند
البته بجز حرف زدن و وعده و وعید دادن
شما می فرمایید بریطانیا ضد ترامپ بود ؟
بله بود در حرف ولی در عمل نبود
مگه ایران کشتی بریطانیا را گرفت ؟
خیر در اول این بریطانیا بود که وارد این بازی بین ایران و امریکا شد و کشتی ایران را گرفت
خلاصه ایران هیچ استفاده ای از اروپایها نبرد که بخواهد نگران رفتن انها در صف ترامپ باشد
 
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In recent history, no other country has received so much leniency from the US and the west than IR. Look what they did to Libya and Iraq. But IR seems to get away with unprecedented leniency, from the proxy war in South Lebanon to bombing in Argentina to interfering in Iraq, Yemen and Syria.

It's not because the US is afraid of IR like its simpleton supporters believe, it's because IR is serving a purpose. This regime is the biggest servant to the US interests, more than Shah ever was.
نه عمو جان
امریکا همانطور که گفتم تنها وارد جنگ با ضعفا میشود
کشورهایی را که نام بردی
1- عراق : بعد از تحریمهای چند ساله و قرارهای سازمان ملل مبنا بر تدمیر تمام موشک های با برد بیش از 200 کیلومتر
عراق تمام موشکهای با برد بیش از 200 کیلومتر خود را از بین برد عراق حاضر شد که هر کس و ناکسی بیاید و تفتیش کند و اکثرا جاسوس بودند
2- لیبی معمر قذافی حاضر شد که نیروگاه اتمی خود را تفکیک کند و ارتشی نداشت که حرفی برای گفتن داشته باشد
3- افغانستان یک مشت پا برهنه با کلاشینکف
در صورتی که ایران حزب الله را پرورانده که در یک متری اسرائیل با دها هزار موشک اماده است
سوریه و عراق و حوثی ها را دارد
بیش از 300 هزار نیروی مسلح غیر ایرانی دارد که مستقیما تحت فرمانروایی راس حاکم در ایران هستند
ایران در طی این چهل سال دها هزار موشک دور برد و بالستیک ساخته که اکنون اکثر انها نققطه زن هستند
ایران میتواند بکمک بسیج نیروی چند ملیونی را در عرض مدت کوتاهی بسیج کند
ایران تنگه هرمز را در اختیار دارد
ایران در جنگ الکترونیک نشان داده دست درازی دارد
امریکا اینها را همه میداند
به همین خاطر می فهمد وقتی برای پابرهنه های طالبان ترلیون دولار در جنگی خرج میکند که در اخر مجبور شده پای میز مذاکرات با انها بنشیند
در مقابل ایران تنها نابودی او در منطقه بخاطر یک جنگ تمام عیار با ایران رقم خواهد خورد
البته حرف اخرت درسته
امریکا از ایران یک لولو خوره برای این عربها درست کرده و پولشان را می چاپد ولی
سرنگونی ایران برای امریکا خیلی مهمتر از چند ملیارد دلار عرب ها هست
همچنین امریکا با دلیل و بدون دلیل می تواند از عربها پول تلکه کند
اگر همین فردا به عربستان بگوید تنبانت را بکن میکند
 

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سلای جان
ما فقط اسم راه دپلماتیک و عاقلانه را می شنویم
در صورتی که امروز اگر دقت کنی تنها چیزی که باعث میشود کشوری به کشور دیگر زور نگوید همانا قدرت و زورگویی است
در کره شمالی دیدیم که بمبهای اتمی کره باعث شد که امریکا به این کشور حمله نکند
درایران هم کم و بیش همین را میبینیم
برعکس در عراق و افغانستان و لیبی سوریه یمن میبینیم که را دیپلماتیک هیچ سودی ندارد و نداشته
همچنین در مورد اروپایی ها اصلا اروپایی ها هیچ کار واقعی برای دور زدن تحریم های امریکا علیه ایران نکردند
ایران یک سال تمام صبر کرد و تنها حرف و قول از اروپایی ها شنید
در اخر هم یکی از همین کشورهای اروپایی کشتی نفط کش ایرانی را ربود !!ا
تا کمکی غیر مستقیم و حتی مستقیم به این تحریمهای امریکا علیه ایران باشد
اروپایی ها هیچ کاری نمیتوانند بدون اجازه امریکا انجام بدهند
البته بجز حرف زدن و وعده و وعید دادن
شما می فرمایید بریطانیا ضد ترامپ بود ؟
بله بود در حرف ولی در عمل نبود
مگه ایران کشتی بریطانیا را گرفت ؟
خیر در اول این بریطانیا بود که وارد این بازی بین ایران و امریکا شد و کشتی ایران را گرفت
خلاصه ایران هیچ استفاده ای از اروپایها نبرد که بخواهد نگران رفتن انها در صف ترامپ باشد
General jan, I agree but when you don't have the power and the strength of certain countries, you cannot go repeating their zoorgooi and gholdori as a retaliation. That is what IR has been doing for the past 40 years. What did it bring them but sanctions, bad reputation, a terrorist state or an axis of evil stamp and even more sanctions? You need to find another solution than just trying to act like a powerful nation against the true powerful nations. Also it's not that simple for the Europeans to go around Trump's sanctions. You have to look at it with an open mind. What Iran is doing is saying to the Europeans, we don't care about the situation and the circumstances. Just solve the problem like you promised.

Unfortunately, things don't work that way.
 

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I think the war in Iraq was the last war, USA will put soldier on the ground. Lesson learned.
We are in an era of overpopulation where capturing a country or region is very costly and meaningless in the long run.
I was the first that though US would retaliate for their drone right away but not doing that was a smarter choice I believe.
let's put that in perspective:
US lost a drone worth 120 million which Iran loses much more per day due to sanctions.
Some argue that USA needs Iran in the region, well that might be true but remember they
need an Iran without nuclear weapon and ballistic missiles.
Iran missile technology has improved with a fast speed because the country has spent 16 billion dollars on the military per year.
That might not be a lot in comprison to USA abut still a considerable amount of cash.
Now Iran has long range missiles and so many of them are built because that is the only way that they can defend, since they know
that they can't have a strong air force at least in a short run. Indeed the range and accuracy is improving all the time.
Let's not fool ourselves, this program has been relatively successful given Iran capabilities (I dont' believe all the propaganda I see but still
I think Iran is fully capable of building missile with range of 1000-2000 km)
Iran will continue the missile program and I personally don't see an end to this program and I don't think that is negotiable.

I feel really horrible for my countrymen who care for the future of Iran. I think the future is very dark.
The country is running out of money, the whole country is becoming bankrupt.
The whole government programs such as insurance for public education and healthcare is non-existent today.
Iran with all its horrible nonsense had an acceptable economy and standard of living 10-15 years ago.
Today, we are a poor country where if an average educated family make 5 million per month (60 million a year), this is equivalent to
roughly 6000 dollars per year for a country that everything is priced with dollar because it is imported. Let's compare that to when dollar was
3000 tomman, which makes it roughly 20,000 per year. Huge difference.
So in Iran, the middle class is completely being depleted and I don't think this could economically last forever.

I think Iran has played this poker game very badly. What can we expect from Iran ?
More tension in the Persian Gulf to diverge attention to other problems.
However, the western country will create safe shipping pass through Persian Gulf. What would happen then ?
 
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fat mike and his sidekicks wanted a visa.they were denied.
trump is getting so desperate that he is probably willing to send tiffany
on a temp marriage to top moola's grandson in order to get a call from iran.
but he is not gonna get it.iran will squeeze him desperate until he cries uncle
just before the 2020 elections.

 
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General jan, I agree but when you don't have the power and the strength of certain countries, you cannot go repeating their zoorgooi and gholdori as a retaliation. That is what IR has been doing for the past 40 years. What did it bring them but sanctions, bad reputation, a terrorist state or an axis of evil stamp and even more sanctions? You need to find another solution than just trying to act like a powerful nation against the true powerful nations. Also it's not that simple for the Europeans to go around Trump's sanctions. You have to look at it with an open mind. What Iran is doing is saying to the Europeans, we don't care about the situation and the circumstances. Just solve the problem like you promised.

Unfortunately, things don't work that way.
دوست گرامی
میتونید برای من یک الگو که ایران کنونی بتونه از ان استفاده کنه که بهتر از مقابله با زورگویی ها باشه مثال بزنید ؟
الگویی که دذر مقابل زور گویی جواب داده باشه
متشکرم
 
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انهایی که فکر میکنند امریکا دیگر زور گویی را کنار گذاشته و فقط بوسیله
راههای دیپلماتیک و فشار اقتصادی میخواهد جلو برود سخت در اشتباه هستند
امریکا میداند که جنگ با ایران مثل جنگ با عراق و افغانستان نیست
اگر بود سالها پیش حمله میکرد
به نقشه خوب نگاه کنید تا ببینید نفوذ خارجی ایران و ارتشهای فرامرزی ایران تا کجاوجود دارند
اول از عراق شروع کنید
یک ارتش متکامل که از ارتش حکومت عراق هم قدرتمند تر است
به اسم حشد الشعبی به تعداد بیش از 200 هزار سرباز متشکل از 67 تیپ
مستقیم و غیر مستقیم زیر کنترل قاسم سلیمانی قرار گرفته
در سوریه : لشکر چهارم سوریه عملا از فرماندهان ایرانی دستور میگیرد
جدا از این لشکر زینبیون که از پاکستانی ها تشکیل شده مستقیما از قاسم سلیمانی دستور میگیرد
لشکر فاطمیون که اوامرش را مستقیما از فرماندهان سپاه پاسداران میگیرد و متشکل از افغانی ها شیعه هستند
و 80 هزار نیروی بسیج سوریه به نام شبیحه که باز مستقیم و غیر مستقیم از فرماندهان ایرانی دستور میگیرند
درلبنان حزب الله لبنانی با بیش از 50 هزار موشک و نیروهای تا دندان مسلح و حرفه ای
به قول یکی از روزنانه های اسرائیلی از بقیه ارتش های عرب قدرتمند تر است
در یمن انصار الله را دارد که می توانند در باب المندب بسیار برای امریکا و هم پیمانانش مشکل ساز باشند
چنانکه تک و تنها بیش از چهار سال جلوی عربستان امارات سودان مغرب و کشورهای متحد با عربستان ایستاده است
در افغانستان و برخی از کشورهای افریقایی هم نیروی نظامی دارند
این سوا از نیروهای ارتش بسیج و سپاه ایران است
و همچنین وسعت پهناور صحنه جنگ اگر جنگی بخواهد در بگیرد جبهه ان از مرز هند تا دریای مدیترانه از یمن تا اذربایجان گسترش خواهد یافت
تنها فقط حزب الله با ان همه موشک کافی است که سردمداران امریکا و اسرائیل قبل از شروع هر جنگی هزار بار فکر کنند
تنها به همین خاطر است که شما امریکا رو امروز اینچنین ارام و تا حدی ذلیل میبینید که حاضر هستند به تهران بیایند و مذاکره کنند بدون هیچ قید و شرطی



 

Sly

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میتونید برای من یک الگو که ایران کنونی بتونه از ان استفاده کنه که بهتر از مقابله با زورگویی ها باشه مثال بزنید ؟
الگویی که دذر مقابل زور گویی جواب داده باشه
متشکرم
General jan, Iran is not the only nation who's been subjected to zoorgoii and gholdori. As you said before, the only thing that stops countries from zoorgoii is power and strength. There are so many nations (most nations in the world actually) that are relatively weak and are subjected to zoorgooii one way or another. How come their situation is far better than Iran's? None of them except probably North Korea has been under such a huge sanctions that Iran has gone through. None of them has had so much problems with western powers (including the Europeans) than Iran. What have they done?

In this very case, for the first time, Iran had powerful nations on its side. Instead of waiting and building strong diplomacy with them, they retaliate the capture of a lousy ship which was totally meaningless when you look at the bigger picture. I'm not saying they should have let the British capture the ship and be bikhial. but with a strong diplomacy and lobbying many things can be solved. It would have been beneficial for Iran against the bigger problem, Trump.
 

Sly

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انهایی که فکر میکنند امریکا دیگر زور گویی را کنار گذاشته و فقط بوسیله
راههای دیپلماتیک و فشار اقتصادی میخواهد جلو برود سخت در اشتباه هستند
I don't think anybody think that.
 
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lol.we got some extremely naive people posting here.
iran has powerful nations on it's side,china,india,russia.
uk and the rest of eu are 'has beens'.the eu 'powers' are
only powerful when they face weak and extremely naive people.
here is an example: this is how they treated the indian crew of grace1.

The vessel's captain, an Indian national who asked not to be named, said he was radioed a police request to board his ship and lowered his ladder.

But before anyone could board, a military helicopter landed on the ship in a "very dangerous" move, he said.
He told the BBC he identified himself as the captain but the marines ignored him and instead pointed their guns and shouted "look forward, look forward".

He said: "They didn't care whether I was master… there was no regulations… we had 28 unarmed crew. I was in a state of shock, everybody was in a state of shock.

"How do you come on a ship like this with armed forces and such brute force. For what reason?"


He said the marines could have boarded the ship and simply told him he had been arrested.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-49162256

i'm sure glad iran is not run by a bunch of wusses any longer.the way the irgc navy treated
the uk warship and ordered them to be quiet is exactly how you deal with an enemy,no more and no less.
 

Zob Ahan

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انهایی که فکر میکنند امریکا دیگر زور گویی را کنار گذاشته و فقط بوسیله
راههای دیپلماتیک و فشار اقتصادی میخواهد جلو برود سخت در اشتباه هستند
امریکا میداند که جنگ با ایران مثل جنگ با عراق و افغانستان نیست
اگر بود سالها پیش حمله میکرد
به نقشه خوب نگاه کنید تا ببینید نفوذ خارجی ایران و ارتشهای فرامرزی ایران تا کجاوجود دارند
اول از عراق شروع کنید
یک ارتش متکامل که از ارتش حکومت عراق هم قدرتمند تر است
به اسم حشد الشعبی به تعداد بیش از 200 هزار سرباز متشکل از 67 تیپ
مستقیم و غیر مستقیم زیر کنترل قاسم سلیمانی قرار گرفته
در سوریه : لشکر چهارم سوریه عملا از فرماندهان ایرانی دستور میگیرد
جدا از این لشکر زینبیون که از پاکستانی ها تشکیل شده مستقیما از قاسم سلیمانی دستور میگیرد
لشکر فاطمیون که اوامرش را مستقیما از فرماندهان سپاه پاسداران میگیرد و متشکل از افغانی ها شیعه هستند
و 80 هزار نیروی بسیج سوریه به نام شبیحه که باز مستقیم و غیر مستقیم از فرماندهان ایرانی دستور میگیرند
درلبنان حزب الله لبنانی با بیش از 50 هزار موشک و نیروهای تا دندان مسلح و حرفه ای
به قول یکی از روزنانه های اسرائیلی از بقیه ارتش های عرب قدرتمند تر است
در یمن انصار الله را دارد که می توانند در باب المندب بسیار برای امریکا و هم پیمانانش مشکل ساز باشند
چنانکه تک و تنها بیش از چهار سال جلوی عربستان امارات سودان مغرب و کشورهای متحد با عربستان ایستاده است
در افغانستان و برخی از کشورهای افریقایی هم نیروی نظامی دارند
این سوا از نیروهای ارتش بسیج و سپاه ایران است
و همچنین وسعت پهناور صحنه جنگ اگر جنگی بخواهد در بگیرد جبهه ان از مرز هند تا دریای مدیترانه از یمن تا اذربایجان گسترش خواهد یافت
تنها فقط حزب الله با ان همه موشک کافی است که سردمداران امریکا و اسرائیل قبل از شروع هر جنگی هزار بار فکر کنند
تنها به همین خاطر است که شما امریکا رو امروز اینچنین ارام و تا حدی ذلیل میبینید که حاضر هستند به تهران بیایند و مذاکره کنند بدون هیچ قید و شرطی


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