Mohamad Reza Shah's message to the people

[lordofmordor]

It is interesting to see the comments on it.

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[Chinaski]

Be hamin khaateram emrikaai haa zadan dare koonesh andaakhtanesh biroon va jaash ye mosht mazhabiye aghab geraaye khoraafaati o past fetrat jaash kozashtan ke na iran ro mamlekat mibinan na irooni ro mellat. Kardanesh ommate eslaam, foroo rafte dar baatlaaghe khoraafaat o mohoomaate yek dine kaamelan vaa pas garaa.

 

[Dr Strangemoosh]

Shah's downfall happened because of this interview, don't kid yourself otherwise:

[video=youtube;fZV_hXOeyFI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZV_hXOeyFI[/video]

 

[feyenoord]

AN is also saying these sort of stuff on daily basis. So what? I am not trying to compare them with each other. But these sort of sayings are quite insignificant in the realm of politics.

 

[Playboy]

shah's downfall happened because at the end the masses did not support him and came out against him.check out the footage of the huge demonstrations that led to his downfall.it's an insult to him to say he was overthrown because of an interview or because the u.s. or the u.k. wanted him out.if he had the support of the masses no power in the world could get rid of him.

 

[Dr Strangemoosh]

If shah was the so-called puppet of the west, then he could have been supported at a number of instances when he was losing control. Even if he were unpopular he would have been able to maintain power but after this he became more of a pariah

 

[feyenoord]

If shah was the so-called puppet of the west, then he could have been supported at a number of instances when he was losing control. Even if he were unpopular he would have been able to maintain power but after this he became more of a pariah

Shah was definitely not a puppet of the West. His downfall however was because of his own wrong policies and his typical Iranian character of thinking that he knows the best what is good for the country. Khameneie is the same. But at least the IR regime has a few measures through which they can repel people's anger (one of which is the elections).

 

[lordofmordor]

You are making this sound and not mentioning important info.

Shah was certainly a dictator but last 3 decades has shown what he has had to deal with. He could have done better and not let it come to where it did. He could have also not leave the country.

1) We are talking about 1978, and last 3 decades has shown, what kind of MF***ers he has to dealt with. The same Akhoond SOB who helped topple Mossadegh. These SOB Akhoonds and hezbolahis wanted to rule themselves and democracy and right of people dont mean shit to them. Shah was certainly not a democracy, but religion was not what decided who gets the posts but rather competence. And that is why the country was progressing.

2) Iran in 1978, had come a long way thanks to Shah's policy of working hard through inspectors to clean up corruption in the offices. That made him many enemies. You can talk to the people running offices to see how tough these inspectors were and how many were purged due to corruptions. Khominie regime brought back corruption to the 1000 times degree. Corruption and buying someone is just normal under Islam republic.

3) Shah did not have a anti-demonstration force like IR has. Islam republic has learned from Shah and worked with China and others to come up with ways of brutally putting out demonstrations. Shah's message to his nation was "I heard your message" not long after demonstrations started. He dissolved Savak and arrested some responsible. Look at top people in prison at the end of the Shah's time. He also started giving more freedoms. Khamanie's message to the people has been "We are going to F*** you up". His basjiji and head of the guard had no problem telling Khatami they will cut his tongue or anyone geting in their way. Khamanie's technique has been to brutalize, make the noose even harder whereas Shah actually loosened it up. And that is why you saw more people on the street.

In another words if Khamanie loosens it up like Shah did, it will take only a day for the people to cut his throat and all of those SOB regime and supporters for what they have done to the people of Iran for that last 3 decades. And there will be several times more millions than they showed up for Shah.

shah's downfall happened because at the end the masses did not support him and came out against him.check out the footage of the huge demonstrations that led to his downfall.it's an insult to him to say he was overthrown because of an interview or because the u.s. or the u.k. wanted him out.if he had the support of the masses no power in the world could get rid of him.

 

[DireStraits]

Be hamin khaateram emrikaai haa zadan dare koonesh andaakhtanesh biroon va jaash ye mosht mazhabiye aghab geraaye khoraafaati o past fetrat jaash kozashtan ke na iran ro mamlekat mibinan na irooni ro mellat. Kardanesh ommate eslaam, foroo rafte dar baatlaaghe khoraafaat o mohoomaate yek dine kaamelan vaa pas garaa.

Mikhast gheimate nafto bebare bala Zamani ke Amrika bohrane eghtesadi dasht.
Unam pozesho zadan.

 

[Chinaski]

Shah was definitely not a puppet of the West. His downfall however was because of his own wrong policies and his typical Iranian character of thinking that he knows the best what is good for the country. Khameneie is the same. But at least the IR regime has a few measures through which they can repel people's anger (one of which is the elections).

Man dige tajob ham nemikonam ke hamishe yeki peydaa mishe vaase ye hamchin jafange birabti "like" ham bezane. Just for your information: Shah WAS a puppet of the West but he was a progressive puppet who always had in mind to get out of the shadow of his bosses. As soon as he started to do exactly this, they sacked him.

Typical iranian character? Wrong policies? loool. The guy was actually too soft to likes of you, to mullahs, to islamists, to fadaaiaane eslaam (like his father). He was a coward for leaving the country and hand it over to bunch of risho pashmoos. Khabari nashodeh bood! 4 taa tir shelik shode bood, too ye seri az shahraa aslan enghelaabi nashode bood! He should have stayed like a man and beat up on those fucked up idiots on the streets and from what i know about the iranian mentality, age 100 taa mollah o risho pashmoo ro mikosht, baghiye ghalaaf mikardan miraftan too sooraakhaashoon. Iranians are easy to contain and put in their places and the mullahs are showing us how. Just be cruel and beat them up, a few shishe zam zam here and there and you can rule. Shah had a far more favourable time to face the americans who were orchestrating khomeinis rise to power, than likes of Saddam, Mubarak, Ghaddafi or Assad. The soviets were still around and they would have never ever allowed the americans to invade such an important country. Shah was bozdell. He didnt have half the balls of likes of Assad or Saddam. THIS is typical iranian and not what you describe as typical iranian. If he didnt have that gereftaariye mazhabi himself, if he didnt allow Mullahs to legally have a day of air time on national radio inwhich a motherfucker like Motahari called chaar shanbe soori something for kharaan o ahmaghaan without having to expect any kind of too dahani from the government, they wouldnt have grown such balls to start that aashoob. He was WAAAY too soft. As i said, i blame Shah for not being man enough to stay and fight for that what he thought would be the right path. I blame him for quitting so easily just because carter sent his Gen. Huyser to iran to more or less tell him to leave. If he stayed and fought, the americans wouldnt have been in the position to do anything about it because the soviets and Brezhnev had made it clear that they wouldnt accpet any kind of american direct involvement and interference in iranian matters under any circumstances.

He quit too soon and he was too soft and to tolerant towards the mullahs and islamists.

In koso shere jafanget va moghaayeseye khamenei baa shah ro aslan naadide migiram chon vaaghean koso sheri bish nist.

 

[Behrooz_C]

Shah's downfall happened because of this interview, don't kid yourself otherwise:

[video=youtube;fZV_hXOeyFI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZV_hXOeyFI[/video]

I think you are the one kidding yourself. I have heard this 'analysis' from many Iranians before but it shows how childish and inept they are. Are you seriously telling me that one interview on a TV programme was the reason that the secret services of world most powerful country on earth to wake up and decide the regime has to change? Are you honestly naive enough to believe this is how major world decisions are made?!!!!

 

[lordofmordor]

Nicely put, and I add, as a nation, Iran is not a smart country, too religious, too backwards, too khorafati. And if you look at it unbiasedly, where Iran is today, is exactly where it would end up having the people it has.

You can't worship brutal backward religion of Islam, and forget that you were invaded and that is how it was brought onto you. There is a cost that people end up paying as the result of that ignorance.

Shah was willing to do some killing at the beginning but he was not willing to go large scale like Khominie and Khamanie did. And even if we go back in time, and knowing what we know today, I dont think Shah or many of us will be willing to order the killing and brutalizing at the large scale like SOB MF****ers Mulsim clerics and muslim basijis and hezbolahis can do with ease.

Man dige tajob ham nemikonam ke hamishe yeki peydaa mishe vaase ye hamchin jafange birabti "like" ham bezane. Just for your information: Shah WAS a puppet of the West but he was a progressive puppet who always had in mind to get out of the shadow of his bosses. As soon as he started to do exactly this, they sacked him.

Typical iranian character? Wrong policies? loool. The guy was actually too soft to likes of you, to mullahs, to islamists, to fadaaiaane eslaam (like his father). He was a coward for leaving the country and hand it over to bunch of risho pashmoos. Khabari nashodeh bood! 4 taa tir shelik shode bood, too ye seri az shahraa aslan enghelaabi nashode bood! He should have stayed like a man and beat up on those fucked up idiots on the streets and from what i know about the iranian mentality, age 100 taa mollah o risho pashmoo ro mikosht, baghiye ghalaaf mikardan miraftan too sooraakhaashoon. Iranians are easy to contain and put in their places and the mullahs are showing us how. Just be cruel and beat them up, a few shishe zam zam here and there and you can rule. Shah had a far more favourable time to face the americans who were orchestrating khomeinis rise to power, than likes of Saddam, Mubarak, Ghaddafi or Assad. The soviets were still around and they would have never ever allowed the americans to invade such an important country. Shah was bozdell. He didnt have half the balls of likes of Assad or Saddam. THIS is typical iranian and not what you describe as typical iranian. If he didnt have that gereftaariye mazhabi himself, if he didnt allow Mullahs to legally have a day of air time on national radio inwhich a motherfucker like Motahari called chaar shanbe soori something for kharaan o ahmaghaan without having to expect any kind of too dahani from the government, they wouldnt have grown such balls to start that aashoob. He was WAAAY too soft. As i said, i blame Shah for not being man enough to stay and fight for that what he thought would be the right path. I blame him for quitting so easily just because carter sent his Gen. Huyser to iran to more or less tell him to leave. If he stayed and fought, the americans wouldnt have been in the position to do anything about it because the soviets and Brezhnev had made it clear that they wouldnt accpet any kind of american direct involvement and interference in iranian matters under any circumstances.

He quit too soon and he was too soft and to tolerant towards the mullahs and islamists.

In koso shere jafanget va moghaayeseye khamenei baa shah ro aslan naadide migiram chon vaaghean koso sheri bish nist.

 

[feyenoord]

Man dige tajob ham nemikonam ke hamishe yeki peydaa mishe vaase ye hamchin jafange birabti "like" ham bezane. Just for your information: Shah WAS a puppet of the West but he was a progressive puppet who always had in mind to get out of the shadow of his bosses. As soon as he started to do exactly this, they sacked him.

Typical iranian character? Wrong policies? loool. The guy was actually too soft to likes of you, to mullahs, to islamists, to fadaaiaane eslaam (like his father). He was a coward for leaving the country and hand it over to bunch of risho pashmoos. Khabari nashodeh bood! 4 taa tir shelik shode bood, too ye seri az shahraa aslan enghelaabi nashode bood! He should have stayed like a man and beat up on those fucked up idiots on the streets and from what i know about the iranian mentality, age 100 taa mollah o risho pashmoo ro mikosht, baghiye ghalaaf mikardan miraftan too sooraakhaashoon. Iranians are easy to contain and put in their places and the mullahs are showing us how. Just be cruel and beat them up, a few shishe zam zam here and there and you can rule. Shah had a far more favourable time to face the americans who were orchestrating khomeinis rise to power, than likes of Saddam, Mubarak, Ghaddafi or Assad. The soviets were still around and they would have never ever allowed the americans to invade such an important country. Shah was bozdell. He didnt have half the balls of likes of Assad or Saddam. THIS is typical iranian and not what you describe as typical iranian. If he didnt have that gereftaariye mazhabi himself, if he didnt allow Mullahs to legally have a day of air time on national radio inwhich a motherfucker like Motahari called chaar shanbe soori something for kharaan o ahmaghaan without having to expect any kind of too dahani from the government, they wouldnt have grown such balls to start that aashoob. He was WAAAY too soft. As i said, i blame Shah for not being man enough to stay and fight for that what he thought would be the right path. I blame him for quitting so easily just because carter sent his Gen. Huyser to iran to more or less tell him to leave. If he stayed and fought, the americans wouldnt have been in the position to do anything about it because the soviets and Brezhnev had made it clear that they wouldnt accpet any kind of american direct involvement and interference in iranian matters under any circumstances.

He quit too soon and he was too soft and to tolerant towards the mullahs and islamists.

In koso shere jafanget va moghaayeseye khamenei baa shah ro aslan naadide migiram chon vaaghean koso sheri bish nist.

Ablah jan,

To biay nadide begiri ya nagiri hichi farghi nemikone. You are a joke to everyone anyway. You have never made a sound argument in here. That is due to your lack of knowledge. Your anger is concurrent with that. Boro yekan bekhun shayad ye chizayee halit beshe. Start from the following:

Click on the link. Read the whole thing.


http://tehranreview.net/articles/12599#.UczCMDs3DBV
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[Chinaski]

Aslan bonyaad o taaro poode vojoodet az lajane

 

[feyenoord]

Aslan bonyaad o taaro poode vojoodet az lajane

Zadam too khal, na? yad begir ke bara har masaleyee ye rahehalli shayad vojood dashte bashe. Next time you start a conversation dont be rude

 

[Chinaski]

Ye lajane mollah tabaar, gharghe dar bisavaadiye mahz

 

[DireStraits]

Araba ro sir kon Irania ro gorsne negah dar

 

[lordofmordor]

Feynoord, AN did not have power, and even if he meant it, he was just a pawn. The powers, Khominie and Khamanie certainly are more interested in the muslim's interest than Iran's interest. Their large sum of investment in Lebanon, and other countries are good examples.

If Islamic regime cared like Shah did, then they would have invested the money in the education, research, and other aspects to help the economy grow and create employment. Most importantly, cleaning the country with corruption as Shah had done for last several years creating enemies.

Shah put competent educated people in charge. Many ministers were educated overseas. In current government, education has been bought or not much care is paid to it. You get a high job because you are an akhoond, or have islamic values, or khamanie and other high ones think his power will be safer and that is why they get appointed.

Saying one thing and actually doing it is different.

AN is also saying these sort of stuff on daily basis. So what? I am not trying to compare them with each other. But these sort of sayings are quite insignificant in the realm of politics.

 

[AFRIRAN]

Nice read daash Lord .

Always it's a question to me that who else than a dictator could force us to change and go out off the Ghajar+islam set up ?
And also i think just Pahlavi should not carry the blame for dictatorship as these bastards akhoonds boodan ke Feshar ro baraaye system saltanati gozaashtan taa jomhoory dar zaman kashani , lookforward to read more of you

 

[parham79]

One thing worst being a dictator was pertending to be one and sadly that's what Shah Fagigh was. He had built an image of an all powerfull leader who could be tough when things needed to be done in a certain way. Sadly he lacked the courage to order the tough orders and make the tough decisions. His deeds interms of building Iran from a country on par with Afganistan to the most powerfull economy and military power in the region and one of the biggest in the world cant be question, but when he needed to be tough like 1978 he was to soft. When the army begged him to quash the protest at it's earliest period and kill a few mollahs to make an example he told them only a dictator will kill to save his crown. Sadly that's what we needed at that crucial period of time.


He listend to CIA spies around him who knew he was ill and took full advantage of the situation and the rest is history. As much as I dislike Assad, the guy has balls and will not quit until he wins or he loses his life.I think had the army hanged a few mollahs in a few big squares in Isfahan, the ashoobgars would have learned a quick lesson that the army meant business and it did.