@ byebyenow , still don't buy it. Didn't Germans missed some chances ? Or Baggio's penalty miss 1994 final ?
@DR , I agree Messi makes players around him good but players around him has made him the great player too . That is Barca's way of playing ,The Old AJAX .
@Real Madrid , RM has won before CR and will win after he's gone , but I'm not sure if Barca would be this successful after Messi
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Germans had chances but Argentina's miss chances were much more clear cut chances. But my point is not this, it is that WC trophy, which is only seven games in every four years, is not a good reference point for how great Messi is because winning the WC also requires being lucky and being in the right environment. Unlike the national tournament, Messi is the king of CL and La Liga, a much more competitive and high-level football, he has proven himself over and over in both La Liga and CL and that is alone enough for me to consider him the best football player of all time.
Ronaldo is also a great player who proved himself in CL, EPL, and La Liga but the difference is Ronaldo is a self-oriented player and Messi is the team-oriented player and have the great vision which only seldom players have. If a team has the player in the magnitude of Pirlo, I rather have Del Piero than Ronaldo on my team, because Del Piero was the team player and scored enough to bring championship for the team and also made everyone else perform better, he was also a great character and a leader to be followed in the locker room and in training sessions, he might not scores as much as Ronaldo but his off-field benefits overwhelm the goal difference of what Ronaldo bring on the table. The comparison of Zlatan and Ronaldo was spot on and the similar situation did happen with Capello's Juve who had both Ibra and Del Piero, which I couldn't wait to see Zlatan leave Juve. If I was a Real fan I would take Raul-Morientes partnership over any Ronaldo's partnership.