This guy, Rohani, is Khatami 2.0. He smiles and says nice things, and in the back, IRI does the same things and even worse. AN was not an Akhund so he reflected IRI's true positions. Akhunds like Rohani and Khatami want to show a good face, because they are experts in taghieh. For those who think or hope this guy does something good, let's check in one year and see. The problem is that after 35 years of experience and hanging your hats on this person and that person, after this guy's true nature is shown and proven, some are going to hope that another Akhund is a good Akhund and will improve the situation. All I have to say is Keep Dreaming.
So far all I have heard from him is he same BS everybody else said, he supports Syria, condemns US and calls Israel a wound, I don't know what he says that is different from his predecessors and why you think he is different... I have learned to believe that talk is cheap, didn't George W Bush say he is not into nation building? We all know what happened... Just go to 1:40+...
http://youtu.be/F9SOVzMV2bc
http://youtu.be/F9SOVzMV2bc
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It was on Reuters which I consider the best and most objective news organization in the world:
"If anyone thinks through threats they can impose their will on the Iranian nation, they are making a very big mistake. This dual approach will not yield any result. This brings into question the honesty of American officials"... Rouhani blamed what he called a "war-mongering group" in the U.S. House of Representatives for voting last week to increase sanctions on Iran. Referring to Israel, he said the group "pursues the interests of a foreign country and receives most of its orders from the same country ... even U.S. interests are not being considered".
"If anyone thinks through threats they can impose their will on the Iranian nation, they are making a very big mistake. This dual approach will not yield any result. This brings into question the honesty of American officials"... Rouhani blamed what he called a "war-mongering group" in the U.S. House of Representatives for voting last week to increase sanctions on Iran. Referring to Israel, he said the group "pursues the interests of a foreign country and receives most of its orders from the same country ... even U.S. interests are not being considered".
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I wish that was the case bro. People may forget one incident, but they will start putting things in context after a few days or weeks to conclude that nothing has changed. Every news article I have read from Western sources today had some very negative implications in it. Here's another excerpt from Reuters:
Many were struck by the absence of former president Khatami from the inauguration. The near absence of out-and-out reformists from the cabinet was also surprising given that their backing helped Rouhani win the election. "The marginalisation of overtly reformist politicians is striking," said Professor Ali Ansari of Scotland's University of St. Andrews. "The other, perhaps more worrying development beyond the cabinet is how many of the hardline conservatives are remaining in place and we ought not to lose sight of just how much is not changing as we focus our attention on Rouhani," he said.
While he spoke much about women's rights during his campaign and in his inauguration speech, Rouhani did not select one woman for his cabinet. Even Ahmadinejad had one woman minister. Mostafa Pourmohammadi, Rouhani's nomination for justice minister, is accused by Human Rights Watch of being one of a three-man committee that ordered prisoners in Tehran's notorious Evin jail to their summary executions in 1988.
Many were struck by the absence of former president Khatami from the inauguration. The near absence of out-and-out reformists from the cabinet was also surprising given that their backing helped Rouhani win the election. "The marginalisation of overtly reformist politicians is striking," said Professor Ali Ansari of Scotland's University of St. Andrews. "The other, perhaps more worrying development beyond the cabinet is how many of the hardline conservatives are remaining in place and we ought not to lose sight of just how much is not changing as we focus our attention on Rouhani," he said.
While he spoke much about women's rights during his campaign and in his inauguration speech, Rouhani did not select one woman for his cabinet. Even Ahmadinejad had one woman minister. Mostafa Pourmohammadi, Rouhani's nomination for justice minister, is accused by Human Rights Watch of being one of a three-man committee that ordered prisoners in Tehran's notorious Evin jail to their summary executions in 1988.
I'd like to see that Shahriar jaan if you find a clip or article where he used those words. IR is all about expanding Islamism beyond its borders and spreading an Islamic caliphate from India to the Mediterranean - it would be highly unlikely that a top figure in the IR would say something to contradict that.
That's not a good thing to say, I agree, though again the translation is off:
"رأی مردم ایران در انتخابات اخیر رأیی معنا دار بود که هنوز پاسخ عملی و مناسب از جانب آمریکا به آن داده نشده است. بیانیه اخیر کاخ سفید نشان می دهد که هنوز مسئولان آمریکایی درک درستی از ملت ایران ندارند. رفتارها متناقض و پیام ها هم ناهمسو در گفتار و در عمل بوده است. در آمریکا متأسفانه گروه فشار و جنگ طلب و مخالف گفتگوهای سازنده و در پی منافع یک کشور خارجی است و بیشتر هم از آن کشور دستور می گیرد، منافع آن کشور خارجی را بر نمایندگان مجلس تحمیل شده و می بینیم که حتی منافع آمریکا هم در این اقدامات مد نظر قرار نمی گیرد. مبنای دولت ما اجماع داخلی برای حراست از حقوق ملت از مسیر تعامل سازنده، فعال و متناسب با اقدامات عملی طرفهای گفتگو است. برای ما آنچه مهم است، پاسخ عملی دولت آمریکاست، نه بیانیه ها. ما همه اقدامات دولت آمریکا را به دقت رصد خواهیم کرد و به اقدامات عملی سازنده و معنی دار قطعا پاسخ مشابه و متناسب داده خواهد شد.
"رأی مردم ایران در انتخابات اخیر رأیی معنا دار بود که هنوز پاسخ عملی و مناسب از جانب آمریکا به آن داده نشده است. بیانیه اخیر کاخ سفید نشان می دهد که هنوز مسئولان آمریکایی درک درستی از ملت ایران ندارند. رفتارها متناقض و پیام ها هم ناهمسو در گفتار و در عمل بوده است. در آمریکا متأسفانه گروه فشار و جنگ طلب و مخالف گفتگوهای سازنده و در پی منافع یک کشور خارجی است و بیشتر هم از آن کشور دستور می گیرد، منافع آن کشور خارجی را بر نمایندگان مجلس تحمیل شده و می بینیم که حتی منافع آمریکا هم در این اقدامات مد نظر قرار نمی گیرد. مبنای دولت ما اجماع داخلی برای حراست از حقوق ملت از مسیر تعامل سازنده، فعال و متناسب با اقدامات عملی طرفهای گفتگو است. برای ما آنچه مهم است، پاسخ عملی دولت آمریکاست، نه بیانیه ها. ما همه اقدامات دولت آمریکا را به دقت رصد خواهیم کرد و به اقدامات عملی سازنده و معنی دار قطعا پاسخ مشابه و متناسب داده خواهد شد.
Dude, we have some serious linguistic issues between the two of us 
The way I understood him was that he was referring to "pressure groups" who take orders from another country and impose their will on the congress members. I don't think he's talking about congress members taking orders, but about AIPAC taking orders and pressuring congress members.
The way I understood him was that he was referring to "pressure groups" who take orders from another country and impose their will on the congress members. I don't think he's talking about congress members taking orders, but about AIPAC taking orders and pressuring congress members.
Dude, we have some serious linguistic issues between the two of us
The way I understood him was that he was referring to "pressure groups" who take orders from another country and impose their will on the congress members. I don't think he's talking about congress members taking orders, but about AIPAC taking orders and pressuring congress members.
The way I understood him was that he was referring to "pressure groups" who take orders from another country and impose their will on the congress members. I don't think he's talking about congress members taking orders, but about AIPAC taking orders and pressuring congress members.
اینکه آمریکا مسیری دوگانه را انتخاب کرده، آنها را به نتیجه نخواهد رساند و صداقت مقامات آمریکایی را زیر سئوال قرار می دهد
Dude, we have some serious linguistic issues between the two of us
The way I understood him was that he was referring to "pressure groups" who take orders from another country and impose their will on the congress members. I don't think he's talking about congress members taking orders, but about AIPAC taking orders and pressuring congress members.
The way I understood him was that he was referring to "pressure groups" who take orders from another country and impose their will on the congress members. I don't think he's talking about congress members taking orders, but about AIPAC taking orders and pressuring congress members.
روحاني با بيان اين كه متاسفانه در آمريكا گروه فشار كه گروه جنگ طلب و مخالف گفت و گوهاي سازنده است و بيشتر در پي منافع كشور خارجي و بيشتر هم از او دستور مي گيرد، گفت: اين منافع يك كشور خارجي و يك گروه تحميل شده است و نمايندگان مجلس و ما مي بينيم كه حتي در اين اقدامات منافع آمريكا هم مد نظر نمي گيرد
Merci Shahriar jaan, I stand to be corrected. Although he completely negated that sentence IMHO with the next sentence where he says "mokhalefat va seteez baa har goone zoor gooi, solteh va tajavoz, makhsoosan taaroze nezami, jozi az farhange eslami, enghelabi va Iranie maust." He also goes on to say that it's our goal to incapacitate/neutralize people looking for a war or warmongers. Overall, I find his tone just as combative as AN's - he used to say the exact same sentences in the exact same order.
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Really Behrou jan ?! you find his tone just like AN's ?! just as combative ?!
Mokhalefat va seteez ba zoor gooyi means we are against bullying ...now what is wrong with saying that ,every sovriegn nation stand by this , he said we are not at war with the world and not after changing political borders and regimes but stand against bullying ,when did AN use the same literature and tone ?
Mokhalefat va seteez ba zoor gooyi means we are against bullying ...now what is wrong with saying that ,every sovriegn nation stand by this , he said we are not at war with the world and not after changing political borders and regimes but stand against bullying ,when did AN use the same literature and tone ?
I don't know Shahriar jaan, I'd expect my president not to use terms like bullying that 14 year olds use in the school-yard. And of course I find words like neutralize/incapacitate combative. How do you supposed he means to do that, by praying?! And here are a few passages from AN. Look familiar? At least AN's version was based on the positive use of words like peace, friendship and brotherhood - Rohani just said we're not going to do the opposite of those (i.e. double negative):
“The presence of the destroyer in the Caspian Sea is for strengthening friendship and brotherhood based on security for all and confrontation against the extremism of those who want to disturb the security of the nations and the region"
"The Islamic Republic of Iran has always been against aggression, oppression, bullying and occupation,"
"The global ruling system has reached a political, cultural, and economic stalemate, and the equations of power will fundamentally change in favor of justice, peace, and friendship,”
"The important political message by NAM to the international community is the message of friendship and peace and its readiness to tackle global challenges,"
“The presence of the destroyer in the Caspian Sea is for strengthening friendship and brotherhood based on security for all and confrontation against the extremism of those who want to disturb the security of the nations and the region"
"The Islamic Republic of Iran has always been against aggression, oppression, bullying and occupation,"
"The global ruling system has reached a political, cultural, and economic stalemate, and the equations of power will fundamentally change in favor of justice, peace, and friendship,”
"The important political message by NAM to the international community is the message of friendship and peace and its readiness to tackle global challenges,"
Concur!!
I also believe it was a deliberate act and this was begining of upcoming chains of plots to undermine Rouhani. Not because he is Osoolgara, Eslahtalab or what ever, just because he was elected by Eslahtalab camp and hardliners got a serious bloody nose from last election. The whole world was watching when Khamanei's obvious pick Velayati got tad over 2 million votes while the Eslahtalab's candidate got over 18. That is 900% more votes. Aftermath of 2009 election Khamanei was mad, froth mouthed. screaming, yelling and threatening people that they will be responsible for their own blood if they continue street protests, but aftermath of 2013 he was quite, sad and soft spoken just like a looser. He knows very well that out of that 2 million 1.5 million of them had to vote for Velayati just because they work for him, out of 45 million eligible voters he only had around 500,000 supporters. That was eye opening sad reality for him to chew on for a long time. Even many hardline Osoolgara broke off from Khar and organized their own group called Jebheh Paydaari, that is another sad reality.
Rouhani will have no other choice than remaining in reformist camp b/c even he wanted to he will not be accepted among hardliners, neither among Jebheh Mottahed Osoolgarayan nor Jebheh Paydari, but these 2 groups will go through relentlessness effort to undermine his presidency and make sure 1396 will not be a 1392 redo, if the regime lasts that long that is.
I also believe it was a deliberate act and this was begining of upcoming chains of plots to undermine Rouhani. Not because he is Osoolgara, Eslahtalab or what ever, just because he was elected by Eslahtalab camp and hardliners got a serious bloody nose from last election. The whole world was watching when Khamanei's obvious pick Velayati got tad over 2 million votes while the Eslahtalab's candidate got over 18. That is 900% more votes. Aftermath of 2009 election Khamanei was mad, froth mouthed. screaming, yelling and threatening people that they will be responsible for their own blood if they continue street protests, but aftermath of 2013 he was quite, sad and soft spoken just like a looser. He knows very well that out of that 2 million 1.5 million of them had to vote for Velayati just because they work for him, out of 45 million eligible voters he only had around 500,000 supporters. That was eye opening sad reality for him to chew on for a long time. Even many hardline Osoolgara broke off from Khar and organized their own group called Jebheh Paydaari, that is another sad reality.
Rouhani will have no other choice than remaining in reformist camp b/c even he wanted to he will not be accepted among hardliners, neither among Jebheh Mottahed Osoolgarayan nor Jebheh Paydari, but these 2 groups will go through relentlessness effort to undermine his presidency and make sure 1396 will not be a 1392 redo, if the regime lasts that long that is.
Good informative article on the cabinet from CNN - interestingly, it leaves room for cautious optimism:
Iran's proposed cabinet: The old guard is back in charge
Iran's proposed cabinet: The old guard is back in charge