Tehran, second worst city to live in the world

a123321r

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yeah i did see the prices but thought somebody somewhere must have re-published the list.. but yeah clever idea man, i like it! lol well i guess i have to agree with london, i definitely don't think it's a good place to live but i'm really curious about austrlia and canada with list after list but i don't know why i don't think i would like either of them personally lol
 

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yeah i did see the prices but thought somebody somewhere must have re-published the list.. but yeah clever idea man, i like it! lol well i guess i have to agree with london, i definitely don't think it's a good place to live but i'm really curious about austrlia and canada with list after list but i don't know why i don't think i would like either of them personally lol
It's definitely a good idea to have a foot in Canada/Australia. These countries are least affected by the crazy things that happen around the world all the time. They're both boring countries if you're not into nature. Each one has only 2-3 major cities and the rest of the country is either inhabitable or not populated yet. Toronto is stretching like crazy in every direction though and Alberta is prospering like crazy. The only shitty thing about Canada that will never change is its weather. God I hate the long winter here. I'll never get used to it.
 

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London is cool if you are under 35, get top money and don't have kids.

But really, I can't think of any other city in the world that has a two-tier social class public transport system like London has.
 

a123321r

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It's definitely a good idea to have a foot in Canada/Australia. These countries are least affected by the crazy things that happen around the world all the time. They're both boring countries if you're not into nature. Each one has only 2-3 major cities and the rest of the country is either inhabitable or not populated yet. Toronto is stretching like crazy in every direction though and Alberta is prospering like crazy. The only shitty thing about Canada that will never change is its weather. God I hate the long winter here. I'll never get used to it.
i think the thing that has made me most jealous when visiting other countries has probably the weather and the life style that comes with it.. and obviously australia would have more of that than canada but then i've liked all the canadians i've met and i think i would like the people and culture more in canada than australia so it's a bit of a trade off.. i keep thinking i'd probably want to live more in spain, greece or portugal!

mahdi.. i don't know man, i would still have to put up with the miserable english weather in london regardless of how much there is to do or all the different cultures etc.. i just keep thinking if you do make a move you might as well make it worthwhile rather than a small step! lol
 

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mahdi.. i don't know man, i would still have to put up with the miserable english weather in london regardless of how much there is to do or all the different cultures etc.. i just keep thinking if you do make a move you might as well make it worthwhile rather than a small step! lol
i disagree mate. i would hate to live in a place like spain, and having to go to work every day when the weather is amazing outside. i would be miserable for the whole year.

i rather live where i am now, and as long as i have a descent job, then i can enjoy my time off. whether it is a weekend break in france, or longer breaks further away like barcelona. thinking about it, i wouldnt swap where i am with anywhere else. im within two hours of all the major cities and countries in europe :D seriously mate, within two hours u can be in germany, italy, spain, portugal, france, ireland, czech republic, greece, holland (if thats ur kinda place), etc.

speaking of london; i love visiting london, but i hate living in london. my ideal place to live is the New Forest in south of england. its beautiful. just too damn expensive :)
 

a123321r

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i disagree mate. i would hate to live in a place like spain, and having to go to work every day when the weather is amazing outside. i would be miserable for the whole year.

i rather live where i am now, and as long as i have a descent job, then i can enjoy my time off. whether it is a weekend break in france, or longer breaks further away like barcelona. thinking about it, i wouldnt swap where i am with anywhere else. im within two hours of all the major cities and countries in europe :D seriously mate, within two hours u can be in germany, italy, spain, portugal, france, ireland, czech republic, greece, holland (if thats ur kinda place), etc.

speaking of london; i love visiting london, but i hate living in london. my ideal place to live is the New Forest in south of england. its beautiful. just too damn expensive :)
in all fairness i didn't want to say it to sound like a twat but my biggest problem with england is english people lol don't get me wrong i love a lot of things about english people and think they are really nice people.. just don't have that extra spark that i find with people of other places.. i mean afterall i only ever had one english girlfriend and maybe one or two english friends along the way but my first relationship was with someone from greece, and my engagement was to someone from mexico.. granted they didn't work out but some how i just feel a lot more connected to people of other countries compared to england so yeah it's that AND the weather (but i have a feeling the weather has a lot to do with how people are in a country?!) btw.. in england the only city i've visited which felt like i would be happy living there was brighton because it really didn't feel like england, duno if it was what i took while i was there or the situations each time i was there but that place was the only one in england not to be overwhelmingly depressing! lol (yeah i know .. it also happens to be the gay capital but i assure you there was nothing gay with the experiences i associate with brighton lol)
 

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i think the thing that has made me most jealous when visiting other countries has probably the weather and the life style that comes with it.. and obviously australia would have more of that than canada but then i've liked all the canadians i've met and i think i would like the people and culture more in canada than australia so it's a bit of a trade off.. i keep thinking i'd probably want to live more in spain, greece or portugal!

mahdi.. i don't know man, i would still have to put up with the miserable english weather in london regardless of how much there is to do or all the different cultures etc.. i just keep thinking if you do make a move you might as well make it worthwhile rather than a small step! lol
ohhh such a great thinking Abs!:) If u can find a job there with its %20 unemployment rate, its worth every penny living there. they have the loveliest ppl on Earth. Canada is pretty good too, great ppl with much less problems that U.S has, but depending on which city u live, ur lifestyle is diff too. ie, Toronto is a NY-wanna-be city, crazy busy lifestyle, long depressing winter, but lots of jobs, a diversified city that u dont feel like a stranger/foreigner at all. I know a family friends of ours in London, that their sons, born and raised in London,still with British accent! went to uni-work in Spain,and never came back. they love it there so much they say "they cant stand London more than 10 days of xmas vacation"!! that tells a lot about both countries' livability!:)
 
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I agree that is an amazing advantage you have being able to go to so many country within few hours. So many in Europe dont realize that.

If one is thinking of the places to live, one cant ignore the emerging markets such as South Africa, Australia, Russia, India, China, and Brazil.

i disagree mate. i would hate to live in a place like spain, and having to go to work every day when the weather is amazing outside. i would be miserable for the whole year.

i rather live where i am now, and as long as i have a descent job, then i can enjoy my time off. whether it is a weekend break in france, or longer breaks further away like barcelona. thinking about it, i wouldnt swap where i am with anywhere else. im within two hours of all the major cities and countries in europe :D seriously mate, within two hours u can be in germany, italy, spain, portugal, france, ireland, czech republic, greece, holland (if thats ur kinda place), etc.

speaking of london; i love visiting london, but i hate living in london. my ideal place to live is the New Forest in south of england. its beautiful. just too damn expensive :)
 

Mahdi

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mahdi.. i don't know man, i would still have to put up with the miserable english weather in london regardless of how much there is to do or all the different cultures etc.. i just keep thinking if you do make a move you might as well make it worthwhile rather than a small step! lol
the weather issue is overrated, although I disagree with Ali. I would prefer to go to work with good weather, as long as I know that the one good day of weather won't be theday I have to work. Last week the weather was fine all week but shitty on weekend. But London is really ok as a city, but as said, only for the above.
 
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NEWSFLASH!!!!!

You've all been looking at the list upside down!

I looked at the article for the for the first time (for some reason I couldn't access the CNN site last week). The list of cities below Tehran seemed a bit odd so I decided to do a little research.

http://www.eiu.com/public/topical_report.aspx?campaignid=liveabilityAug2011

http://www.voanews.com/zimbabwe/new...-To-Live-In-New-Survey-Reveals-129144648.html

That makes Tehran the 131st Most Livable city (according to the study).

Moral of the story. If you don't like an article research the facts before dismissing it as nonsense!

The metrics are also clearly stated in the original CNN article that this thread is based around. "Stability, healthcare, Culture, envirnment, education and infrastructure".
 
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Pew! That's for clearing that up. I was really worried that Tehran was #139 out of 140. Now I can sleep in peace knowing that Tehran is just #131 out of 140. :)
 
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Pew! That's for clearing that up. I was really worried that Tehran was #139 out of 140. Now I can sleep in peace knowing that Tehran is just #131 out of 140. :)
LOL! Very true. However, my post was aimed at those who had simply dismissed the credibility of the study on the basis that they (mistakenly) thought it had ranked places like Harare and Tripoli higher than tehran.

As a a matter of fact, the title of the thread is "Tehran, second worst city to live in the world".
 

Niloufar

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LOL! Very true. However, my post was aimed at those who had simply dismissed the credibility of the study on the basis that they (mistakenly) thought it had ranked places like Harare and Tripoli higher than tehran.

As a a matter of fact, the title of the thread is "Tehran, second worst city to live in the world".
oh thank you Pezhman jan..since the whole list wasnt available, didnt know war-zone cities are not included in the list. thanx for clarification. glad to know the ranking seems more fair than we thought!
 

Bache Tehroon

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LOL! Very true. However, my post was aimed at those who had simply dismissed the credibility of the study on the basis that they (mistakenly) thought it had ranked places like Harare and Tripoli higher than tehran.

As a a matter of fact, the title of the thread is "Tehran, second worst city to live in the world".
I think your post should be more aimed at those who were fully agreeing with the study supposedly rating Tehran as one of the worst cities on Earth!

I was defending Tehran's ass the whole time while fully knowing that any big city in the world (including my top-rated place of residence) makes me hate life. Big cities are truly over-glorified concentration camps. Of course, you can have fun in concentration camps too :)
 

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BT, just because you lived in Toronto for a long time and have a job and a condo doesnt mean you know a lot about the city. Unless you have moved up the ladder, purcahsed properties, run successfull businesses, build wealth and raised a family you wont be in a good position to br the judge. As a young single professional making middle wages living in a condo or other rental it is ofcourse obvious that you may have different benchmarks and needs than others.


With regards to the ranking again, much of the factors around assessing the 'livability' of these cities are around wealth distributions and social programs. northamerica and particualrly US is not in wealth distribution business like europeans are.

Factores that are missing and are most important in assessing a city should be around opportunities to succeed, time and effort required to build wealth, ownership of property, cost of living, overall living standard as a ratio of earning to costs and the ability to purchase the best in class.

In other words, I could care less if my city does not have the greatest public transit system, affordable education or some of the others as long as i am able to realize a great income to cost ratio giving me the greatest ability to purchase and own best in value/class in roperty, vehicles or education.

If you consider these almost every US and candian city will pop on top.
 
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Niloufar

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In other words, I could care less if my city does not have the greatest public transit system, affordable education or some of the others as long as i am able to realize a great income to cost ratio giving me the greatest ability to purchase and own best in value/class in roperty, vehicles or education.

If you consider these almost every US and candian city will pop on top.
oh you certainly would IDM jan, if you had lost ur job, couldnt afford ur mortgage, hence had to take public transit(as long as 2 hrs) instead for job hunting, shopping,etc in brutal winter here!! the same scenario 10million Americans and many Canadians are going through right now. a lot of ppl are out of job, or get mighty paycheques that they have to work double shifts or 2 part time jobs to afford their meal-rent,etc. and bc education isnt affordable, they cant get proper skill-training either to get back to job market. not everyone makes over $50k wages in Toronto, u know.

Toronto's real estate is overly priced not bc ppl can afford over $1 million old bungalows these days, but bc new immigrants and self-funded rich Asians can afford so. According to Canadian stats, if BOC increases the rate by %1, about %20 of Toronto home owners cant pay their mortgages. if thats not a bubble, then what is?
 
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InDaMoneyz

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oh you certainly would IDM jan, if you had lost ur money, couldnt afford ur mortgage, hence had to take public transit(as long as 2 hrs) instead for job hunting, shopping,etc in brutal winter here!! the same scenario 10million Americans and many Canadians are going through right now. a lot of ppl are out of job, or get mighty paycheques that they have to work double shifts or 2 part time jobs to afford their meal-rent,etc. and bc education isnt affordable, they cant get proper skill-training either to get back to job market. not everyone makes over $50k wages in Toronto, u know.

Toronto's real estate is overly priced not bc ppl can afford over $1 million old bungalows these days, but bc new immigrants and self-funded rich Asians can afford so. According to Canadian stats, if BOC increases the rate by %1, about %20 of Toronto home owners cant pay their mortgages. if thats not a bubble, then what is?

Niloufar, Someone who has lost everything the way you described is not gonna be helped in Vienna or stockholm or these socialist places either! there are similar social security measures in canada as well which are not that far from those in europe, and these are not what citizens should rely on long term in any ways. The greatest security is only YOU and a great city should allow you to maximize and purchase 'security' (whatever this maybe) as affordable as possible.

Yes many maybe out of jobs but for most part these are in specific segments and industries and part of a natural cycle in Canada and US where certain segments including manufacturing are being replaced by services and other sectors. But even then the unemployment rate in canada currently stands at around 7% only (9% US) and if you adjust for the tremendous number of new immigrants coming in every year, and all the cash market business that is currently running in the cities the actual unemployment rate will not even hit 3.5% I promise you that!!!! We have countries in European union with unempl. rates of 20%+ !!!!
Do you know whats going on in Europe right now? They are on the verge of collapse and in a much more dire situation Northamerica ever was.

The canadian banking system and financial sector are the best in the world, the real estate market still the healthiest in the world (will explain to you why it is not a bubble as people like to think), they have top in class in R&D, education, technology, sciences, medicine (although I got a big problem with the healthcare system there) and considering canada is the richest country in the world in terms of natural resources it only makes sense that it is the future of the world. Lets not forget the amazing acceptance and diversity that they have making them the most civilized country in the world. (danish and Swedes can allow gay marriage as much as they want - it doesnt hide the fact that they are bunch of rude, racist assholes noone would want to live with ). Look at the rate of R&D that comes out of canada in various fields over years, look at how their universities have surpassed most Europeans and look at how their equity market has moved and etc....

In Toronto (which for other reasons is not my favorite anyways) a dual income middle class family will make way over 120k / year, they can afford a fairly nice house ,cars, education, and can go out weekly to the best restaurants, best clubs/bars in the world, see the best parades, festivals and events in the world and enjoy the greatest nature and cottage country life in the world in summers.


I already said all the problems I have with that fuking city, but I still guarantee if you ever went to Europe (specially if you had a family) and lived in any city including Vienna, paris or Stockholm you will kiss the ground when you come back here.

Stay where you are, have faith and purchase land (not condo) as soon as you are able to (bubble? you know toronto real estate prices are still cheaper than calgary and half of that of vancouver?) Toronot will grow to 7.7 million in 13-14 years, what do you think that would mean?