What happens to be fucked up is that in the midst of this tragedy ye mosht adame be estelah negaran va hamishe dar sahne lahze be lahze ax post mikonan and follow the latest death counts religiously as if this is a hunger games episode.
There are more than one sides to this story. It is sad that civilians get the worst of this while a rishoo olagh sits in a bunker underneath a hospital promising more resistance! Pofioz if you feel tough come out of your soorakh and fight. How much has Hamas spent in the entire tunnel infrastructure? With that amount of funding they could have built underground bomb shelters for their own civilians first. Then these ahmaghs cry about kids dying. If you are too concerned about the kids and want to meet a glorious death then come of your hiding and put an end to this.
Any objections?
There are more than one sides to this story. It is sad that civilians get the worst of this while a rishoo olagh sits in a bunker underneath a hospital promising more resistance! Pofioz if you feel tough come out of your soorakh and fight. How much has Hamas spent in the entire tunnel infrastructure? With that amount of funding they could have built underground bomb shelters for their own civilians first. Then these ahmaghs cry about kids dying. If you are too concerned about the kids and want to meet a glorious death then come of your hiding and put an end to this.
Any objections?
No disagreements there. The real story is not Hamas or what is going on but rather almost 70 years of occupation and building settlements. That is root of the problem that created Hamas. And if continues will create much worst than Hamas. There are 2 sides to the story but Hamas is only 30 years old and it is the effect of occupation.
For years, US and everyone else including NY times has been screaming at Israel, sit down and dont sideline Abbas by building settlements and making life harder for Palastinians.
Even today, Israel is not talking about sitting down and talking peace and stopping building settlements. Rather, it wants Gaza controlled and demiltarized so it go on occupying and building more settlements.
For years, US and everyone else including NY times has been screaming at Israel, sit down and dont sideline Abbas by building settlements and making life harder for Palastinians.
Even today, Israel is not talking about sitting down and talking peace and stopping building settlements. Rather, it wants Gaza controlled and demiltarized so it go on occupying and building more settlements.
the resistance has posted a clip of their well executed operation
from yesterday where they penetrated beyond the enemy line and
ambushed a watch tower neutralizing the 5 military issues inside.
what is interesting about this operation is that it comes after 22 days
of intensive bombing by the apartheid regime on the gaza concentration camp.
the audacity and the precision of the operation was basically a way for
the resistance to urinate on war happy isreali population who have been
cheering their baby killing machine.one would hope the screams of their 18-19
year old kids just before they meet the end will bring some humanity into these folks
and an end into this attempted genocide.
[video=youtube_share;awwFZ2Rb8Qg]http://youtu.be/awwFZ2Rb8Qg[/video]
from yesterday where they penetrated beyond the enemy line and
ambushed a watch tower neutralizing the 5 military issues inside.
what is interesting about this operation is that it comes after 22 days
of intensive bombing by the apartheid regime on the gaza concentration camp.
the audacity and the precision of the operation was basically a way for
the resistance to urinate on war happy isreali population who have been
cheering their baby killing machine.one would hope the screams of their 18-19
year old kids just before they meet the end will bring some humanity into these folks
and an end into this attempted genocide.
[video=youtube_share;awwFZ2Rb8Qg]http://youtu.be/awwFZ2Rb8Qg[/video]
It is horrible to see anyone die. The soldiers sent to these posts are probably young Israeli soldiers following order. Hope this damn conflict ends and Israel moderates come back to power and kick out the right wing in charge, and Hamas (Islamic thug ones) get wiped off the earth as they have backward muslims mentality.
To the day that Israel moderates and Palastinian moderates can live in peace together. And the Islamic virus, the disease, can disappear from as many as possible especially those in power.
One can only imagine today if that F***ing pig Sharon had not walked into the muslim side of the religious part in jerusalem and destroy the peace negotiations that were between Arafat and Rabin. And then talking so much shit to get Rabin killed. And setting out demonstrations and end of peace chances.
And last decade of the right wing Israli regime in place weakening Abbas at every turn. If Abbas dies or looses power, I dont know WTF will happen to that conflict.
To the day that Israel moderates and Palastinian moderates can live in peace together. And the Islamic virus, the disease, can disappear from as many as possible especially those in power.
One can only imagine today if that F***ing pig Sharon had not walked into the muslim side of the religious part in jerusalem and destroy the peace negotiations that were between Arafat and Rabin. And then talking so much shit to get Rabin killed. And setting out demonstrations and end of peace chances.
And last decade of the right wing Israli regime in place weakening Abbas at every turn. If Abbas dies or looses power, I dont know WTF will happen to that conflict.
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An Israeli told me yesterday this is all part of a military strategy to reduce the military strength of Hamas and their missile pile up every few years. He said that they are happy Hamas is stupid enough to give them the excuse every time they need it to attack them. He said they will withdraw as soon as they destroy the pre-defined targets.
Arabs are bunch of idiots. It is no secret to anyone now. They are opportunists that gang up and attack the weak at the right time, but they are passive and fearful otherwise. It is more or less the behavior of vultures. When it comes to defending themselves, all they can do is theatrics. There is no reason 200 million people with so much wealth and such a military expenditure that is only surpassed by the worlds top 3 are being treated like dirt.
Great article from Haaretz Israeli paper:
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.608118
It’s so easy to be an Israeli; your tender conscience is pure as the driven snow: Everything is Hamas’ fault. The rockets are the fault of Hamas; that can be taken for granted. Hamas started the war, for no reason; that, too, “goes without saying.” Hamas is a vicious terrorist organization, beasts in human form, born to kill, fundamentalists – and apart from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
Some 400,000 Palestinians have been displaced. More than 1,200 have been killed, about 80 percent of them civilians, half of these women and children. Around 50 families have been obliterated, their homes bombed with them inside. It has reached the dimensions of a real massacre. But Israelis’ hands are clean and their consciences are quiet – so quiet you could cry. It’s Hamas’ fault.
We’ll leave the root causes of this cursed repression and denial to the psychologists. Since the days when Israel accused the Palestinians of killing their own children by means of the Israel Defense Forces, we haven’t seen such denial. After incubating for years, the disease is now a raging epidemic whose carriers are now symptomatic. The national conscience hasn’t moved a muscle in response to this atrocity, and there are forces working to keep it that way.
But even through the malignant cloud of denial, even understanding how easy it is to blame everything on Hamas — Israel has never had such a convenient enemy, which can be framed for all its sins – we must ask whether everything really is the fault of Hamas. Is Israel genuinely completely innocent? In the face of bleeding, ruined Gaza, the work of Israeli hands, such denial is incomprehensible.
Hamas is a vicious terror organization? How has it been more vicious than the IDF in this war? In that it doesn’t “knock on the roof” 80 seconds before bombing a home? That it aims its rockets at civilian populations, just as the IDF does, but less effectively? That it wants to destroy Israel? How many Israelis want to destroy Gaza? Meanwhile, everyone knows who is destroying whom.
Israel’s sanctimoniousness reaches a peak in its concern for Gaza’s residents: Look at how Hamas oppresses them, cry the Israeli democrats, so solicitous of Palestinian rights. Hamas is tyrannical, but its tyranny is nothing compared to that of Israel, which has subjected the Gaza Strip to a seven-year siege and a 47-year occupation.
What has destroyed Gaza’s society and economy is above all the siege, and thanks to those who seek its welfare, who imposed it. Thanks also to those who are worried about its lack of democracy, who are shocked by the corruption, who denounce its leaders for staying in luxury hotels or hiding in bunkers, who are troubled by the enormous sums used for tunnels and rockets instead of playgrounds and after-school activities. Truly, thanks.
What about Israel? Do its leaders live in tents? Aren’t enormous sums spent on superfluous submarines and secret explosives, instead of on health, education and welfare? Hamas is fundamentalist? Israel is on the way. Hamas oppresses women? That’s bad, but Israel has that too, at least in one large community.
Why did Gazans elect Hamas, instead of a moderate leadership? Because the moderates have been trying for years to achieve something, anything, and all they have received is humiliation and Israeli rejectionism. Has Israel given the Palestinians a reason to choose the Palestine Liberation Organization’s route of diplomacy over Hamas’ violent resistance? Has the PLO brought them an inch closer to statehood or freedom?
Hamas at least won the release of 1,000 prisoners and also preserved a measure of self-respect, even at the terrible price that the desperate Gazans are now willing to pay. What has Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas brought his people? Nothing. A photo op with Barack Obama.
I’m no fan of Hamas, quite the contrary. But Israel’s attempt to put all the blame on Hamas is outrageous. The international community will soon judge this war’s atrocities. Hamas may be reprimanded, deservedly, but Israel will be condemned and ostracized far more. And then Israelis will say, ‘It’s Hamas’ fault. And the world will laugh.
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.608118
It’s so easy to be an Israeli; your tender conscience is pure as the driven snow: Everything is Hamas’ fault. The rockets are the fault of Hamas; that can be taken for granted. Hamas started the war, for no reason; that, too, “goes without saying.” Hamas is a vicious terrorist organization, beasts in human form, born to kill, fundamentalists – and apart from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
Some 400,000 Palestinians have been displaced. More than 1,200 have been killed, about 80 percent of them civilians, half of these women and children. Around 50 families have been obliterated, their homes bombed with them inside. It has reached the dimensions of a real massacre. But Israelis’ hands are clean and their consciences are quiet – so quiet you could cry. It’s Hamas’ fault.
We’ll leave the root causes of this cursed repression and denial to the psychologists. Since the days when Israel accused the Palestinians of killing their own children by means of the Israel Defense Forces, we haven’t seen such denial. After incubating for years, the disease is now a raging epidemic whose carriers are now symptomatic. The national conscience hasn’t moved a muscle in response to this atrocity, and there are forces working to keep it that way.
But even through the malignant cloud of denial, even understanding how easy it is to blame everything on Hamas — Israel has never had such a convenient enemy, which can be framed for all its sins – we must ask whether everything really is the fault of Hamas. Is Israel genuinely completely innocent? In the face of bleeding, ruined Gaza, the work of Israeli hands, such denial is incomprehensible.
Hamas is a vicious terror organization? How has it been more vicious than the IDF in this war? In that it doesn’t “knock on the roof” 80 seconds before bombing a home? That it aims its rockets at civilian populations, just as the IDF does, but less effectively? That it wants to destroy Israel? How many Israelis want to destroy Gaza? Meanwhile, everyone knows who is destroying whom.
Israel’s sanctimoniousness reaches a peak in its concern for Gaza’s residents: Look at how Hamas oppresses them, cry the Israeli democrats, so solicitous of Palestinian rights. Hamas is tyrannical, but its tyranny is nothing compared to that of Israel, which has subjected the Gaza Strip to a seven-year siege and a 47-year occupation.
What has destroyed Gaza’s society and economy is above all the siege, and thanks to those who seek its welfare, who imposed it. Thanks also to those who are worried about its lack of democracy, who are shocked by the corruption, who denounce its leaders for staying in luxury hotels or hiding in bunkers, who are troubled by the enormous sums used for tunnels and rockets instead of playgrounds and after-school activities. Truly, thanks.
What about Israel? Do its leaders live in tents? Aren’t enormous sums spent on superfluous submarines and secret explosives, instead of on health, education and welfare? Hamas is fundamentalist? Israel is on the way. Hamas oppresses women? That’s bad, but Israel has that too, at least in one large community.
Why did Gazans elect Hamas, instead of a moderate leadership? Because the moderates have been trying for years to achieve something, anything, and all they have received is humiliation and Israeli rejectionism. Has Israel given the Palestinians a reason to choose the Palestine Liberation Organization’s route of diplomacy over Hamas’ violent resistance? Has the PLO brought them an inch closer to statehood or freedom?
Hamas at least won the release of 1,000 prisoners and also preserved a measure of self-respect, even at the terrible price that the desperate Gazans are now willing to pay. What has Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas brought his people? Nothing. A photo op with Barack Obama.
I’m no fan of Hamas, quite the contrary. But Israel’s attempt to put all the blame on Hamas is outrageous. The international community will soon judge this war’s atrocities. Hamas may be reprimanded, deservedly, but Israel will be condemned and ostracized far more. And then Israelis will say, ‘It’s Hamas’ fault. And the world will laugh.
Israel has been doing that forever. There was a program on channel 13 years ago about how Isreal (sharon commander) provoked and attack in 1967 sixth day war to take over Sinai and other places. Yet, Israel did public relation and blamed it on the arabs and Syria, Iraq and Jordan.
Israel has had only one plan since takeover 70 years ago. To take more lands and reduce the amount of Palastinain lands to the most minimum and ethnic cleanse them. Building settlements on top of water and good parts of the land have resources.
They go and kill as many Palastinian civilians but if one of their soldiers get killed, they call it Terrorists. Kids throw rock and they hit them with M16 bullet and kill or maim them and they called it terrorists.
However, each time, they isolate themselves more and more from the rest of the world. The other article explains it well.
It will become harder for Israel to do this in the future. The world is a changing place and US cannot afford to weaken itself in order to support israeli massacres. Each time, it hurts US image too.
Israel has had only one plan since takeover 70 years ago. To take more lands and reduce the amount of Palastinain lands to the most minimum and ethnic cleanse them. Building settlements on top of water and good parts of the land have resources.
They go and kill as many Palastinian civilians but if one of their soldiers get killed, they call it Terrorists. Kids throw rock and they hit them with M16 bullet and kill or maim them and they called it terrorists.
However, each time, they isolate themselves more and more from the rest of the world. The other article explains it well.
It will become harder for Israel to do this in the future. The world is a changing place and US cannot afford to weaken itself in order to support israeli massacres. Each time, it hurts US image too.
It is well known that Abbas and Palestinians government and many there are against Hamas. And Abbas showed his unhappiness few weeks ago about Hamas throwing Rockets. However, during a massacre you are not going to find alot written. Lets not forget Palastiians lands are occupied territories where crimes have been done to them for decades.
I have mentioned many times I am a fan of Isreal people thousand times more than Arabs, but will talk about massacre, occupation, take over, and injustices anywhere in the world.
Have not heard you one time saying anything about occupation or any wrong doing to the Palastinians.
I have mentioned many times I am a fan of Isreal people thousand times more than Arabs, but will talk about massacre, occupation, take over, and injustices anywhere in the world.
Have not heard you one time saying anything about occupation or any wrong doing to the Palastinians.
I don't know how far back you want to go. You may consider the whole Israel as occupied territories. Frankly, when you use the term occupation, then you must be against the state of Israel. Occupation did not start with 1967. In the history of the world, people have lost land all the time but they picked up the pieces and went on. How much land has Iran lost over past 300 years? Should we start digging tunnels under Afghanistan and Azerbaijan?
This is well established doctrine of Israeli Armed forces.
It goes way back to Fattah and PLO days.
It has been dubbed Israeli Lawn mower strategy. Were weeds (it used to be fattah) now hammas grows taller over time.
you need to create a major war every few years to go in and trim to manageable size.
Back in 2003 They did the same thing to Arafat were he used to meet with foreign dignitaries under candle lights.
It goes way back to Fattah and PLO days.
It has been dubbed Israeli Lawn mower strategy. Were weeds (it used to be fattah) now hammas grows taller over time.
you need to create a major war every few years to go in and trim to manageable size.
Back in 2003 They did the same thing to Arafat were he used to meet with foreign dignitaries under candle lights.
