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The problem is that those same flag waving, science denying racist clowns that make the majority of Trump's hardcore supporters, are the millions of uneducated and stupid people who believe in those conspiracies and the ones you referenced earlier. I am glad that I don't share the same worldview as those morons and would gladly call them the deplorables, which they are.
Since you like generalisations, it's worth pointing out the other side. There are a lot of people on the opposite side who are not only anti lock-down, but also believe in various conspiracy theories. Need I remind you of the ant-Jewish lobby who have linked every world disaster to Jews, including COVID-19. They are typically seen waving Palestinian flags at left-wing rallies and vote for the Democrats in the US and left-wing parties in Europe.

I am glad I don't share the same worldview as those morons and would gladly call them the deplorables they are!

It's good to see both sides of the coin and not just the ones you happen to agree with :)
 
I have a question for all Trump fans on top of this one.
So Trump is saying, 4 years ago when he got elected, voting was CORRECT and not rigged correct then he is saying NOW it is rigged and BS right?
So in short he is saying, Voting under OBAMA administration was fair and under his own administration was rigged? hmmmm
Hahaha.....isn't the opposite true as well?

Democrats saying the recent elections were the fairest and cleanest in history, admit that Trump presided over that. Meanwhile by insisting on the unproven Russian allegations, they are saying the opposite about Obama's presidency.

Not a very good fascist that Trump guy is he? I mean how many fascists do you know that allowed such clean elections? Trump must be the first in history :)
 

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Since you like generalisations, it's worth pointing out the other side. There are a lot of people on the opposite side who are not only anti lock-down, but also believe in various conspiracy theories. Need I remind you of the ant-Jewish lobby who have linked every world disaster to Jews, including COVID-19. They are typically seen waving Palestinian flags at left-wing rallies and vote for the Democrats in the US and left-wing parties in Europe.

I am glad I don't share the same worldview as those morons and would gladly call them the deplorables they are!

It's good to see both sides of the coin and not just the ones you happen to agree with :)
Behrooz jan, I don't believe that I generalized by any stretch of imaginations. I am just pointing out the state of affairs. It is what it is. Trump supporters, at a concerning disproportions, believe in crazy and baseless conspiracies that defies any logic or common sense. You can dispute it all you want, but it won't change the facts a bit.
Tbh, never heard of an anti-Jewish lobby or anti lockdown statement from the left. If that's the case, I would like to see a proof. Please feel free to share. Left or right, whoever says shit like that, should be confronted with. Science has all the answers and no ideology should stand in the way of the truth.
I always strive to see both sides but I only side with what I perceive as facts and leave all other bs behind, because after all, the earth is not flat, Clintons don't drink blood, the election wasn't rigged, Trump didn't win the election, Covid is contagious and deadly, masks help containing the virus, earth is not 5000 years old, evolution did actually happen and I can go on and on.
Trump rallies are not exactly a gathering of the brightest brains. Honestly, it should alarmingly remind everyone of how Hitler and Mussolini came to power in Europe and their cheer leaders, who made it happen. The parallels are undeniable.
 

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Hahaha.....isn't the opposite true as well?

Democrats saying the recent elections were the fairest and cleanest in history, admit that Trump presided over that. Meanwhile by insisting on the unproven Russian allegations, they are saying the opposite about Obama's presidency.

Not a very good fascist that Trump guy is he? I mean how many fascists do you know that allowed such clean elections? Trump must be the first in history :)
Unprovable Russian allegations? Manafort, Stone, Flynn, Bannon, Gates, Cohen and Papadopoulos in jail or convicted, all high ranking Trump officials or staff and yet you call it "baseless Russian allegations?" Name me one Obama official in jail please.
 

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The problem is that those same flag waving, science denying racist clowns that make the majority of Trump's hardcore supporters, are the millions of uneducated and stupid people who believe in those conspiracies and the ones you referenced earlier. I am glad that I don't share the same worldview as those morons and would gladly call them the deplorables, which they are.
I wonder if these guys actually believe in Donald's claim of voter fraud.
Hahaha.....isn't the opposite true as well?

Democrats saying the recent elections were the fairest and cleanest in history
You should stick to British politics. Its not only Democrats calling this election the "fairest and cleanest" Department of homeland security, the cyber security and infrastructure security agency, and many republican governors are calling this "the most secure in American history". Trumps bogus claims are so outrageous that some of his lawyers are refusing to pursue his claims.
 

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new poll out suggests only 22% of americans believe this
year's presidential elections will 'free & fair'.
let's hope trump is declared the ' winner' otherwise you will have
his groupies marching down main street and chanting 'where is my vote?".

that's the 'civilized' ones the hardcore will be shooting up your 'hood :eek:

https://news.yahoo.com/poll-only-22-percent-americans-213605662.html

this election was so predictable that i called(post #588 in this thread) it in details on 9-20-2020 :ROFLMAO:

 
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I wonder if these guys actually believe in Donald's claim of voter fraud.

You should stick to British politics. Its not only Democrats calling this election the "fairest and cleanest" Department of homeland security, the cyber security and infrastructure security agency, and many republican governors are calling this "the most secure in American history". Trumps bogus claims are so outrageous that some of his lawyers are refusing to pursue his claims.
You missed the point completely. I was replying to Pooya's post and simply turning the argument on its head. Read it again.
 
Behrooz jan, I don't believe that I generalized by any stretch of imaginations. I am just pointing out the state of affairs. It is what it is. Trump supporters, at a concerning disproportions, believe in crazy and baseless conspiracies that defies any logic or common sense. You can dispute it all you want, but it won't change the facts a bit.
Tbh, never heard of an anti-Jewish lobby or anti lockdown statement from the left. If that's the case, I would like to see a proof. Please feel free to share. Left or right, whoever says shit like that, should be confronted with. Science has all the answers and no ideology should stand in the way of the truth.
I always strive to see both sides but I only side with what I perceive as facts and leave all other bs behind, because after all, the earth is not flat, Clintons don't drink blood, the election wasn't rigged, Trump didn't win the election, Covid is contagious and deadly, masks help containing the virus, earth is not 5000 years old, evolution did actually happen and I can go on and on.
Trump rallies are not exactly a gathering of the brightest brains. Honestly, it should alarmingly remind everyone of how Hitler and Mussolini came to power in Europe and their cheer leaders, who made it happen. The parallels are undeniable.
Seriously? The left has a major issue with antisemitism which stems from historically blaming everything on the rich, which they associate with the Jews. It probably stems from Marx's writings like "on the Jewish question" and "Das Kapital" where the evil capitalist was a Jew.

Whatever the origins, it has carried to this day. The left's history is littered with hate, violence and of course antisemitism. It is no surprise that socialist are drawn to parties like the Democrats in the US or Labour parties in Europe and find these parties a comfortable home for their views. If you are a Hamas or Hizbollah supporting Palestinian, who are you more likely to want in the White House, Trump or Biden?

As for conspiracy theories, I really don't think it is exclusive to Trump supporters. Those on the extreme left and right are more likely to believe in conspiracies. For every Republican who believed Obama was born in Kenya, there is a Democrat who believed 9/11 was planned by the Bush administration.

Thank god I am a centrist :)
 

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Seriously? The left has a major issue with antisemitism which stems from historically blaming everything on the rich, which they associate with the Jews. It probably stems from Marx's writings like "on the Jewish question" and "Das Kapital" where the evil capitalist was a Jew.

Whatever the origins, it has carried to this day. The left's history is littered with hate, violence and of course antisemitism. It is no surprise that socialist are drawn to parties like the Democrats in the US or Labour parties in Europe and find these parties a comfortable home for their views. If you are a Hamas or Hizbollah supporting Palestinian, who are you more likely to want in the White House, Trump or Biden?

As for conspiracy theories, I really don't think it is exclusive to Trump supporters. Those on the extreme left and right are more likely to believe in conspiracies. For every Republican who believed Obama was born in Kenya, there is a Democrat who believed 9/11 was planned by the Bush administration.

Thank god I am a centrist :)
I honestly don't think you understand the left in the US. Your Hamas and Hizbollah comment is completely off topic and out of context, so I won't get into that.
Also, in Europe, what you refer to antisemitism by the left, is not a hatred of Jews. You are confusing Semitism with Zionism. Social liberals fight for liberty, equality and justice. Historically speaking, your argument has some merit but the current liberals have no resemblance to their predecessors of 50 years ago.
As conspiracy goes, of course there are some who believe in BS on both sides, but the scale is disproportionally tipped on the right by a huge factor.
 
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President Donald Trump on Tuesday fired the Department of Homeland Security official who had rejected Trump's claims of widespread voter fraud.
Trump announced on Twitter he was firing Chris Krebs, the director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, and directly tied it to Krebs' statement that said there "is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised."
"The recent statement by Chris Krebs on the security of the 2020 Election was highly inaccurate, in that there were massive improprieties and fraud," Trump said in a tweet before repeating multiple baseless conspriacy theories about the election. "Therefore, effective immediately, Chris Krebs has been terminated as Director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency."
 
So do you accept that Trump lost fair and square and he is acting like a child right now?
Of course I do. For what it is worth I think he is a douchebag. He always has been and I cringe when he opens his mouth. Does that mean that in this instance I wanted Biden to win though? No way.

I don't particularly like Boris Johnson either because he is a clown but when I compared him to Corbyn I decided he was the better choice.
 
So clue me up, champ. It's the centrists who DON'T watch your BBC/CNN right?
Oh I watch them, but I see right through their agenda. For all their claims of impartiality (in the case of BBC anyway) their headlines are loaded. They have one agenda (woke globalism) and you rarely see a report that counters that agenda, even though there are plenty of voices against that in society.