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ChaharMahal

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Nothing will come out of this.

Dem establishment doing this to boost unpopular joe for the primaries.

even if the ball moves forward, there will only be 2 senators among republicans who might join in.

just like Bill clinton's impeachment, this is not gone go anywhere.

American is no longer the U.s of 70s where republican senate leaders went to white house and told Nixon to resign.
 
American is no longer the U.s of 70s where republican senate leaders went to white house and told Nixon to resign.
I'm sure if this had happened in the 70s no republican leader from senate would tell Trump to resign. Why would he resign or get impeached? Nixon fucked up. Trump didn't. Clinton got his dick sucked (good for him!). End of story.
 

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Democrats are so pathetic -- concentrate on beating him on presidential race rather than this stupid moves.
 

ChaharMahal

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Democrats are so pathetic -- concentrate on beating him on presidential race rather than this stupid moves.
I concur that generally the whole "russia gate" bs was garbage. democrats pushing Trump from right rather than from left.

however, the so called transcript is indeed very odd. it definitely is prematrue to talk about impeachment.

But such a phone call does warrant alot of investigation from so called committees in congress.

the problem is nobody is interested in the truth and so called rule of law.

It is just political show to satisfy the base.

sad to see the state of affairs in this country. (so called best country in the world. just imagine how bad it is in other places)
 

ChaharMahal

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I'm sure if this had happened in the 70s no republican leader from senate would tell Trump to resign. Why would he resign or get impeached? Nixon fucked up.
yes , Nixon fucked by getting caught and Vietnam war contributing to his unpopularity.

Nobody has actually seen the fire with Trump. but there is plenty of smoke.
He has probably violated the emoluments clause but it can't be proven to satisfaction of a court.

The issue establishment has with trump is not his petty corruption, but rather the fact he is not one of them.

Clinton got his dick sucked (good for him!). End of story.
Clinton lied under oath. one can argue about why white water led to asking him about sex life. but that's just politics!
 
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The fucking orange baboon is in a very danger position if his comrade-Democrats give it up on him.
I have full understanding over his curiosity regarding Joe Biden's son Hunter, though funny part in that conversation with hAji-Zelensky is that he still sniffing up Hillary's anus, man he must be obsessed with that acidic fish-smelling witch.

Thumbs up Trump (y), he's got my vote for the next 4 years, 2020-2024.



How ever, when it comes to Biden's;
The pain point and the black sheep of the family is "R. Hunter Biden", he has struggled through out his life having issues with cocaine and alcohol abuse.
He was discharged from the U.S. Naval Reserve after testing positive for cocaine use, the fucker is considered a shyster.
 
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trump is desperate for a date and is looking to a french
dating service to get him one.but iran keeps both of them
hanging in desperation.

How Iran’s President Left Trump Hanging, and Macron in the Hall

The telephone line had been secretly set up. President Trump waited on the other end. All President Hassan Rouhani of Iran had to do was come out of his hotel suite and walk into a secure room where Mr. Trump’s voice would be piped in via speaker.

Mr. Rouhani and his aides were blindsided by the offer, presented to them by President Emmanuel Macron of France on an unannounced visit last Tuesday night to their quarters at the Millenium Hilton Hotel near the United Nations, where world leaders had converged for the annual General Assembly.
It was a mission lifted out of a Hollywood thriller. Mr. Macron has sought for months to broker a thaw in the standoff between the United States and Iran, which has threatened to escalate into a new Middle East war.

Accompanied by a small team of advisers, Mr. Macron awaited an answer outside the Iranian leader’s suite, according to three people with knowledge of the diplomatic gambit, which was first reported on Monday by The New Yorker. Messages were passed between them via Mr. Rouhani’s aides.

In the end, Mr. Rouhani refused even to come out of his room. Mr. Macron left empty-handed and Mr. Trump was left hanging.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/30/world/middleeast/iran-trump-rouhani-call-macron.html
 

ChaharMahal

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loool how low can we go!!!
Trump stylistically is hard to watch.

but on substance he is right on the spot with the Syria policy.

the neocons love to stay there so that Syria is not once again a unified country.

as soon as the U.S left the YPG realized it can live with Assad forces providing their security.
 
loool how low can we go!!!
Honestly, how is this "low"?

It's the highest road any president could possibly take. He's saving his own soldiers, military budget, and also threatening a fuckhead like Erdogan in order to save Kurdish lives. That's concrete evidence for Trump wanting nothing but peace for all sides.

I don't even agree with his soft non-militaristic approach, but seriously, this is the literal meaning of "taking the high road". No other president has been willing to do this. Ever.
 

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Honestly, how is this "low"?

It's the highest road any president could possibly take. He's saving his own soldiers, military budget, and also threatening a fuckhead like Erdogan in order to save Kurdish lives. That's concrete evidence for Trump wanting nothing but peace for all sides.

I don't even agree with his soft non-militaristic approach, but seriously, this is the literal meaning of "taking the high road". No other president has been willing to do this. Ever.
oh man... even his own party was against this move.. he played in to Turkey, Russia and Iran hand. he had to send his puppet of vice president to Turkey.

so you saying killing Kurds are ok? Even though they helped US against ISIS??? that is basically what he did by pulling those 1000 special forces from that region..
 
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«کردها منطقه را ترک نکنند، سرشان را خرد می‌کنیم»

اردوغان هشدار داد اگر کردها ظرف ۱۲۰ساعت منطقه را ترک نکنند ترکیه سرشان را خرد خواهد کرد. درباره استفاده از نیروهای دولتی سوریه در «منطقه امن» با ولادیمیر پوتین گفتگو می‌کنیم، اگر راه حلی به دست نیاید برنامه‌های خود را پیش می بریم
 
oh man... even his own party was against this move.. he played in to Turkey, Russia and Iran hand. he had to send his puppet of vice president to Turkey.

so you saying killing Kurds are ok? Even though they helped US against ISIS??? that is basically what he did by pulling those 1000 special forces from that region..
Killing Kurds?! Who is killing Kurds? Trump is killing Kurds?

What Russian hand? Russia and Iran want Syria and Trump simply sees no benefit in resisting it. What would be the point of US military presence in Syria? How does that benefit the US in any way?

Trump wants less wide-spread US military presence around the world. He's not a military expert at all, but it's obvious he's been told about the weaknesses and costs of having a thin presence in every corner of the globe. That strategy used to work in the past, but now it's a money-pit and dangerous. It has made the US look weak in many areas because despite the massive military budget, they're trying to do too much at once. Since he was young, Trump has always been a critic of US looking weak in the eyes of the world. He has always seen the military involvement in "shithole" countries (as he rightfully calls them) as a waste of troop lives and money. No one has ever been able to prove him wrong on that. He's been dead on even before he became president.

He's all about branding. He's absolutely right to think that 1000 US soldiers in Syria will make the American Military brand look weak. It has no fruits to bear. The proper strategy for remaining in Syria would be for US to occupy Syria with hundreds of thousands of troops and make it a semi-colony. The trouble is, there's nothing in it for Americans. No resources, no proper infrastructure, no manufacturing capabilities. Nothing. Syria is a fucking shithole with no value. Instead it's a place Russia and Iran can actually hurt the US via proxy victories and testing their capabilities. Not good for the US military brand. So he wants to pull out. Very understandable choice.

Take your democrat glasses off and see things for what they really are. Kurds are not Trump's priority. Americans are. More power to any politician who cares more about his own people. Corrupt or not.
 

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so let me get this straight, you are saying his action last week had no impact on Kurds getting butchered by Turkey???
Who is butchering the Kurds again?

I am all to familiar with this moronic liberal world view of event that never blames the actual culprit. The same liberals complained when the US went into Syria to begin with, but that's another discussion.
 
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Who is butchering the Kurds again?

I am all to familiar with this moronic liberal world view of event that never blames the actual culprit. The same liberals complained when the US went into Syria to begin with, but that's another discussion.
what does this have to do with liberal world?? I just asked a simple question.
 
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Who is butchering the Kurds again? I am all to familiar with this moronic liberal world view of event that never blames the actual culprit. The same liberals complained when the US went into Syria to begin with, but that's another discussion.
Get da'fuck utta here, damned bozzo fucktard..........GET A NEW HARD DISK fuckin crapo!

Liberal my fuckin ass....what liberal, what bullshit, what'a fuck you saying, fuck I am mad know....... :mad:
The whole Curds issue is a bloody fabrication, look what happening in Cataluña, LOOK very hard!
Spain aint no Turkey, Spain aint no IRI-mullas, Spain's going on pure democratic rules, but Spain fuck'm all separatist bitches.
 

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جون من این یکی بد کس خلیه. اینو ولش کنی یه بدنه یونجه های یه گله رو میلمبونه.

راستی کون کش نیای جواب بدیا, یادت باشه, ایرلندی هستی و ارواح عمت فارسی بلد نیستی بخونی

:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

ChaharMahal

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oh man... even his own party was against this move
there is only one party in the united states and that's the business party.
The war industrial complex likes the idea of staying forever and selling more weapons to the U.S government and other governments around the world.

how often do you hear somebody from the establishment in the U.S say a military operation is bad idea. they are always for it.

so you saying killing Kurds are ok? Even though they helped US against ISIS??? that is basically what he did by pulling those 1000 special forces from that region..
It is the "Kurds" of syria that actually owe the United States. They were given free weapons to take a lot of land that was not theirs.

They have out lived their usefulness for the United States and the U.S is packing up (actually not really. they are just moving out of the border area).

This pro "kurds" propaganda in Iranian media is a bit too much. They are 10% of syria's population and until a week ago they controlled nearly 30% of that country's land mass. by the way they controlled the oil wells as well.

The kurds actually never really on that bad of term with Assad Daddy and or son. They will do fine.

In the end of the day the U.S likes to be on better terms with Turkey, the second largest Army in Nato than a bunch "kurds" whom they can buy out again any time they please.