Would we be better off if society doesn't promote sex so much?

Oct 14, 2004
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I'm thinking of writing an article for the Toronto Star about this issue. If there anyone gives me some goodies and if they would like, I can add their name as co-authors!

Right here on ISP and other forums, we constantly see the pics of models and beautiful women...for all of us, meeting them and having a relationship with them is definately impossible. So why bother? Why think about and look at something you can't have? Would we be more productive in both a materialistic and spiritual sense if there was less sexual provokation?

As average human beings living in the busy modern society, we are constantly hit by sexual images. Whether to relieve stress, or for simple pleasure of seeing something beautiful, but almost certainly for commercial purposes, sexual images are something that you can not get away from!


I would like to ask everyone to tell me whether you notice this also and whether you find the bombardment of sexual images in the Western culture positive!

p.s. don't forget that in Iran, where these ideas are totally under the rug, the society moves towards them (just see the way girls put up make up and show their bodies)...the source may be indeed the natural need for attention...or it could be that in Iran (as an example), the images seen from the West become idealized and the society therefore tries to copy them.

p.s.s. this is not about whether you enjoy these images (who wouldn't!!!)...it's about critically analyzing this phenomena!
 
Oct 1, 2004
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I really don't know. I also think there's alot of advertisement about it, but it's best to just ignore it if you don't like it.
 
Oct 14, 2004
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yeah...but it's not about "liking" it (cause I do like it)...but just because you like something, it doesn't make it beneficiary to you or anyone else! You know...
 
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these models (female) were saying the other day that most guys do not approach them or ask to go out because they think since she is model it is impossible to go out with them but she said that was not true and she would like for the avg. guy to come ask her for dat.
she said (well there were many of these models) but all of them said it was not impossible to ask them out and that they liked most of the guys they met?
but that is beside the point. first of all I always tell guy to be themselves and stop the stupid ACT! ppl who act are losers. bcs they are trying to hide something and the lady picks it up the first thing.
be yourself and let her decide whether she likes you or not. pretending to be rich or smart or etc. is the worst thing to do.
most of the girls (if they are good) appreciate the real person and if they dont they are Not ladies (they are cheap prosti**s) and you dont need to be messing with them any ways.

But to tell you the truth , the media is trying to push perversions of all sorts and they are doing it on purpose. they have these agendas and are very sick :x
they have destroyed the family values and have messed up the children and no one dares to protest the bastards?!
most all of these media ppl are rooted in israel but they have used america as their home-office to promote their sick perversions :x
I hope soon these bastards are sent to the bottom of the hell.....
and those who blindly follow them...
 

Niloufar

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I had a Humanity course about this actually..

U gotta know this is a multi million $ business we are talking about here. Deeply looking at men's behaviour and how much they like to be satisfied sexually(whether its on TV only or in person!), u 30 they spend alot to sexually attract men to sell their products(whether its Gillette product or selling porno movies and magazines). and trust me men fall for that and spend good $ on that.
There r good stats out there about how many times in average an adult man walks into an adult store just to see porn magazines. or how many times they have downloaded porno movies.

And the way they portrait it is that U men have to be rich to get these nice and sexy girls!Pick up the phone, call these gorgeous girls by paying X $ a minute and they r all yours! While in the mean time they get huge commission from Telecommunication companies to make ppl use their phones/cell phones.

so its the huge $ profit that rules in this business. They care less about how women are portrait as cheap goods being sent here and there or how much men do not like to be bombarded by advertising.
 

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you know i disagree with Niloufar on this, i had a similar argument about this topic with my female friend, she kept saying i hate it when men look at us as sex machine, and they stare at my boobs and ass, i was like, dont give me that shit, you girls ENJOY it, if you dont why do u wear TIGHT pants? why do you stick ur boobs out? why do you buy push up bra? coz you like the attention from men. she said no, i wear it too look good for myself. i said why dont u wear cloths like that when you are alone? or when you go out with your GIRL FRIENDS.... the bottom line is, i think its a 2 way thing, female like to show off, men like to look, i see nothing wrong in that. everyday i pass this Lamborghini show room here in Vancouver, i stop and look, eventhough i know i cant afford it ! same with females !

Women are after Sex just about the same amount men are, men say it, women dont !
 
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I agree with pooya except that girls do dress up for other girls too. Showing off their assests too eachother is a big part of it. you think men have a clue what a $400 gucci shoe or whatever designer brand is worth?Most they could get out of it from men is "that thang looks good on you, now let's hump."
 

Niloufar

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Pouya,
Noway!we(well majority) dont dress up for guys out there to check us out! thats what teenage girls or street girls like to do!
I mean the last thing we want is a horny guy staring at our boobs,butt,etc..yukk
we dress up,do our hair,put up make up,.. to look good for ourselves and our friends.who enjoys to look geeky and outdated anyways?!!

but they change the image of girls just in terms of sex,looking sexy,big boobs,easy girl,etc to stay popular.. that its turned out to be a peer pressure for soem girls.so they feel down on themselves if they dont show off their skin,cuz they think they wont be popular otherwise.
 

averageniceguy

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i dont know if i was better off without sexually arousing material being around me, simply because i havent lived in a world where this doesnt occur. i dont think such a world exists.

but theoretically, i dont think it would be good for my health not to be surrounded by sex promotion. im serious. i read somewhere that it is actually good for health to be aroused from time to time. and i read somewhere else that on average, men think about sex every 7 seconds!!!

by the way, the only reason models are inaccessible is because theyre busy all the time. i used to date one and she told me about her job and its really tough, they dont get much time on their own, especially the full time ones.
 

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Niloufar said:
Pouya,
Noway!we(well majority) dont dress up for guys out there to check us out! thats what teenage girls or street girls like to do!
I mean the last thing we want is a horny guy staring at our boobs,butt,etc..yukk
we dress up,do our hair,put up make up,.. to look good for ourselves and our friends.who enjoys to look geeky and outdated anyways?!!

but they change the image of girls just in terms of sex,looking sexy,big boobs,easy girl,etc to stay popular.. that its turned out to be a peer pressure for soem girls.so they feel down on themselves if they dont show off their skin,cuz they think they wont be popular otherwise.
LOL, you girls all sound the same, is there like a CD you all buy , coz its the same ...
let me ask you something nilou, one night, you got final exam tomorrow, so you are stuck home all night to study, do you still put make up? do you still wear you tight pants???? NO U DONT, coz there is no guy around !!! comeon... why do all women deny that??? i am not saying its bad, when i go clubbing, i try to show off my body to attract a girl attention,and hopefully take her home. SAME GOES WITH WOMEN. its just that you get picked, we pick !
 

Niloufar

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Pouya,
I didnt say I wear make-up when Im alone,etc..but some girls do that though.
Im saying we dont wear make-up/nice dress just to attract men. we feel good about ourselves + it shows our respect for the ppl we go out with(friends,partners).

If girls were dressing up for attention,then MARRIED women should wear their worst dresses when they go out cuz there is no1 else to get attention from?!!
so when u get married with 2 kids and all that do u go out with your pijamas or underwear?!just bc u dont want to attract/hit on anyone anymore?!!!

Thats Iranian mentality,trust me! no wonder Iranian men let go of their 6-packs when they get married or Iranian women get all fat and sloppy looking when they get married! cuz be ghole khodeshun "khar az pol gozashteh"!!!

If we all try to be like most ppl in the West and wear something bc WE LIKE IT,not bc some guy/girl out there may like it.that would be just great!!
 

Babak G

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actually married women still want attention regardless of if they have a husband.
there are other ppl in the world to impress,always!

the ppl who become too casual with the life they have,start letting go of themselves!
dont you think?

niloufar,do you like it if a guy looks at u and says you look nice?
do you care if people say you are hot or if they say you are ugly?do these things make a difference to you as a girl?

would you rather be seen as sexy or cute?
 

averageniceguy

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actually that doesnt only go for women. men need attention too. one of my roommates actually wears make-up but thats a different and weird story, WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME :D

that reminds me of when a friend of mine came to my room once with a camera crew for a documentary he was doing about harassment for his class. he was interviewing people and asking them some questions. one of them was "how would you feel if you gave a presentation and after that someone made a compliment about your body?"
and i answered "well that depends if its a guy whos asking or a girl :D "
he later told me that everyone had been answering so seriously and boring and when it got to my part the entire class burst out laughing :D

the point is, we all like to get some attention and it doesnt apply only to a certain sex. plus that you shouldnt take everything so seriously. look good and enjoy it when youre being complimented... not like some girls who go like "KHAFE SHO KESAFAT" when you compliment them :D

reminds me of an excellent pick-up line:
boy: khanoom pa midin?
girl: khafe sho kesafat e bishoor!!!!
boy: na khanoom, baraye jan-baaz mikhastam! :D :D

wow, this caffeine is really working for me.
 

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babak jaan, ZADI TOO KHAL, khosham oomad
Niloufar, YES married women still like attention, girls / Women LOVE attention, some get it with their face, some with their boobs, some with their ass, some with all (jooon) anyway, your point is not valid i am sorry, things are different when you are married, now its time to show off your body to other married women, "look i had 3 kids and boobs are still firm" Women are Jelous, (MUCH MORE THAN MEN) , they LOVE to feel SEXY , they are DESPERATE for attention, (REGARDLESS OF HOW OLD OR IF SINGLE OR NOT).
i have to admit it was funny when you said women dress like that to RESPECT the ones who they go out with LOL , TYPICAL girl talk. you females NEVER want to admit it. NEVER. :D
this is not going to go anywhere, coz we all know you will never agree !
 

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Its all about money. i agree with what nilous says and have to add its not just the pron industry. In general Men are fooled by sex and even them selves know that. sex has always been a tool for most things. yes we can live without it but it dosent really bother me.
 

Niloufar

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Pouya,
Ofcourse I like it when I get attention.its enjoyable.
BUT(a big but) I dont choose my clothing and make-up based on what guys like and apeals most to guys. I choose to wear what I like.
There r many who like to wear tight pants,tops. doesnt mean they wear it bc of u guys!! those who wear stuff based on others' opinions, are "oghdei".sorry..!!

shoma pesara be khodetun gereftin,u think when we go shopping we all think about whether u guys like this pants/top/shoe or not!!!! :D hehe,az in khabara nist!!!
 
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Of course most people are wearing clothes to fit into society or look good, otherwise half of us would just walk around naked.