گفتگوی اخبار روز با منصور اسانلو
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Hamash ghol hamash vadeh hamash arezoo va khial. Ye chand nafaram bavar mikonan vase khodeshon hezb mizanan nemidonam sendika va hezar ta koofto zahremare dige. Yek rast miran zendan abam az ab takoon nemikhore va amsale in Rohani ham be onjashoon nist ke chi shod va ki oftad zendan. Bekhor bekhor hamintori edame dareh. Ye mosht ahmaghe be hesab roshan fekram mishinan paye harfash sooot mizanan.
The guy has spent the last decade in IRI prisons. He just lost his brother in IRI prison. He singlehandedly created a workers union and has dedicated his life to workers rights. But of course we should ridicule him because what we have done for our people beyond these keyboards is so superior.
واقعا که شرم رو خوردین حیا رو قی کردین
In any country, guys like Osanloo are championed and cherished by the people. But we shall ridicule him because he doesn't subscribe to our political belief, even though the guy is not even political.
واقعا که شرم رو خوردین حیا رو قی کردین
In any country, guys like Osanloo are championed and cherished by the people. But we shall ridicule him because he doesn't subscribe to our political belief, even though the guy is not even political.
I don't think anyone's ridiculing Osanloo Khodam jaan. I totally agree with what he says here. His message to you guys that voted for Rohani is clear: You (toye noei) should have already been working on the civil institutions that you think will be formed under Rohani. He's saying that these things aren't going to happen on their own.
Not only that, there are many like Osanloo brothers are still in Iranian prisons , forgotten and kept out of the news and ...
Even some consider them collateral damage, the cost of going through the "Eslahat" and ... The only reason you see them even mentioning guys like him is because they think what he said here gets their beloved president OFF the HOOK and will shift the responsibility to others.
Lets see what Rohani will be able to do, will he and his supporters demand the release of political , religious, racial prisoners. Will this happen via Eslahat ?
Even some consider them collateral damage, the cost of going through the "Eslahat" and ... The only reason you see them even mentioning guys like him is because they think what he said here gets their beloved president OFF the HOOK and will shift the responsibility to others.
Lets see what Rohani will be able to do, will he and his supporters demand the release of political , religious, racial prisoners. Will this happen via Eslahat ?
I think coming up with a completely irrelevant joke after a serious point made in the thread does amount to ridicule.
But I completely agree with you that we should work on civil institutions. And I know that you won't agree with this, but this exact point was always the core message of reformers and in particular Khatami. They insisted that Shoraha are more important than Majlis, that unions, be it journalists, artists, bus drivers, car manufacturers, etc, should be formed. And I have always believed that political reform of the populace, which is best achieved through these institutions, if not more important, is as important as the reform of the government.
But I completely agree with you that we should work on civil institutions. And I know that you won't agree with this, but this exact point was always the core message of reformers and in particular Khatami. They insisted that Shoraha are more important than Majlis, that unions, be it journalists, artists, bus drivers, car manufacturers, etc, should be formed. And I have always believed that political reform of the populace, which is best achieved through these institutions, if not more important, is as important as the reform of the government.
I wasn't talking about osanloo or his brothers, I was talking about the charlatan reformers WHO ARE ONLY prolonging the life of this system as a whole with their promises and lies.Now go back and believe 8 more years of their lies and promises WHILE IRAN SINKS FASTER AND FASTER INTO THE WHOLE CREATED BY THIS REGIME.Dont worry in 2098 the regime will finally reform itself.
I do agree with you Khodam jaan that was/is the message. I don't have any issues with the message of the reformists at all - I like it. My problem is that its long term implementation has proven impossible in this system and I see absolutely no reason why that would change going forward. What is IR's incentive in permitting the formation of unions or civil institutions that can challenge or even question the establishment in any way? You guys (reformists) have shown that you have next to zero expectations from this system. If they don't give you those unions or civil institutions, are you going to be up in arms about it or are you just going to excuse it and say that it's going to happen 4 years or 8 years from now?
This regime has shown, as far as enrichment goes, that even when there are serious incentives for it to stop being on the wrong path, it has an ideological mental block that prevents it from doing the right thing. We're talking about sanctions here that are completely crippling the country, not to mention the threat of military intervention and faced with that, we're still not seeing any "reforms" taking place. Why would they willingly give into other reforms when there's absolutely no pressure on them to do so? And how does it help when everyday you guys are reducing your expectations even further to excuse what is being said and done? The establishment has figured you guys out really well - they know that if they don't reform to suit you, you will reform to suit them!
This regime has shown, as far as enrichment goes, that even when there are serious incentives for it to stop being on the wrong path, it has an ideological mental block that prevents it from doing the right thing. We're talking about sanctions here that are completely crippling the country, not to mention the threat of military intervention and faced with that, we're still not seeing any "reforms" taking place. Why would they willingly give into other reforms when there's absolutely no pressure on them to do so? And how does it help when everyday you guys are reducing your expectations even further to excuse what is being said and done? The establishment has figured you guys out really well - they know that if they don't reform to suit you, you will reform to suit them!