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Zob Ahan

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Iran Election Watch 2013: The Ahmadinejad-Mashaei Current – Much ado about nothing?

By IranPolitik: The Iran Political Analysis Project

TUESDAY FEBRUARY 26, 2013




Editor’s note: As part of our Iran Election Watch 2013 series, we are analyzing the key political currents in the Islamic Republic. Today we look at the Ahmadinejad-Mashaei Current in part because of the prominence it has gained in the domestic Iranian and international press as of late.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a lame duck president. His policies, particularly in the economy and foreign policy, are largely perceived as failures by the Iranian public. He is under regular attack from the Iranian parliament and judiciary. Hardliners who supported him to the hilt during his first term now disparage him for his association with what they call the “deviant current”, their code for Esfandiar Rahim Mashaei and his circle of supporters. Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who has stood firmly behind Ahmadinejad through thick and thin including the 2009-2011 Green Movement demonstrations, is now openly criticizing the president’s actions. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a man with few friends among Iran’s political elite, and the Ahmadinejad-Mashaei Current which he leads appears to be at a dead end.

And yet commentators inside and outside of Iran continue to tout him and his political current as serious contenders for power, especially in the upcoming 2013 Iranian presidential election. One of the latest narratives circulating in Iran even claims that he seeks to implement the Vladmir Putin – Dmitry Medveded scenario. The Iranian constitution limits a president to only two consecutive terms, meaning that after serving for eight years a president must be out of office for at least four years before standing again for a presidential electios. In the Putin-Medveded scenario, the current president’s most senior deputy Mashaei will become the next president, paving the way for Ahmadinejad to return to executive office in four years time. When these commentators are confronted with the reality that no presidential candidate from the Ahmadinejad-Mashaei circle is likely to be approved by the Guardian Council, they point to Ahmadinejad’s ability to create problems for the regime by revealing embarrassing secrets or using his presidential powers to disrupt the upcoming 14 June presidential election. On closer inspection, the emphasis on the Ahmadinejad-Mashaei Current may be much ado about nothing, at least in the long-term.

Can Ahmadinejad reveal embarrassing secrets about the regime? It certainly appears so. For years Ahmadinejad has hinted at being in possession of secrets regarding senior regime officials which he would be willing to use against them. During the 2009 Iranian presidential election campaign he repeatedly hinted at these secrets during one-on-one debates with Mir Hossein Mousavi, Mehdi Karroubi, and Mohsen Rezaei. Just this past January he released a video which sparked the Larijani-gate corruption case. Not only was this action nearly unprecedented in the Islamic Republic’s history, but it also constituted an attack against one of the Islamic Republic’s most powerful political families. Furthermore, can Ahmadinejad use his powers as president to throw the regime into chaos? Again, it appears likely. He has been giving precisely such signals. Through the revelation of secrets and the use of the president’s powers, the Ahmadinejad-Mashaei Current could very well create a domestic political crisis in the coming months. But this should not distract us from the relative weakness of this political current and the realities of power in the Islamic Republic.

Our knowledge of the Ahmadinejad-Mashaei Current remains limited. The true story about their rise to power will likely remain shrouded in secrecy for years to come. What we do know is that its two key figures, Ahmadinejad and Mashaei, emerged from the middle ranks of the Islamic Republic’s security services. Ahmadinejad held a number of mid-level administrative and advisory positions in north-western Iran, while Mashaei rose up the ranks of the intelligence ministry in the same politically sensitive region of the country. They both seem to have been part of the regime’s efforts to suppress ethnic rebellions in this region during the 1980s and 1990s. Beyond basic biographical details, it is unclear when Ahmadinejad and Mashaei first created their political current or what other majour players in Iran may support them.

What we do know is that Ahmadinejad was first elected to political office on a hardline Principalist platform in the 2003 city and village council elections, and selected as mayor by the Tehran City Council. At this time the Reformist movement, which rose and fell between 1997 and 2005, was on the retreat. A new generation of hardliners, many with security service backgrounds, was joining hands with older hardliners (sometimes referred to as “conservatives”) under the banner of Principalism. Ahmadinejad used the Tehran mayoralty as a stepping stone to the Iranian presidency. For days leading up to the 2005 Iranian presidential election, then Chief of Police Mohamamd-Bagher Ghalibaf was rumoured to be the candidate of Iran’s hardline political establishment. At the last minute, for reasons that remain unknown, hardliners appear to have switched their support to Ahmadinejad, who was subsequently elected president. For much of his first term (2005-2009), Ahmadinejad remained obedient to Khamenei and the hardline establishment, attacking the Reformists and Centrists, espousing an anti-imperialist (and anti-American) line in foreign policy, taking up the cause of social conservatism, and introducing his own brand of economic populism.

This quickly changed after 2009 when the Reformist (and Green) Movement was crushed and the Centrists were sent into retreat. Increasingly during the course of his second term (2009-2013), Ahmadinejad diverged from the Principalists, even the hardliners who had been his main base of support among Iran’s political elite. It is at this point that the figure of Mashaei came to the fore and Ahmadinejad began showing hitherto unseen political tendencies. Together, they introduced a new political discourse into the Islamic Republic which emphasized Iranian nationalism alongside a version of Shiite political Islam, sans the clergy as a corporate body. They argued for loosening of social restrictions, especially on the youth. They advocated economic reforms that, in the long-term, worked against the very working poor who were their main supporters at election time. Perhaps most importantly, they argued for a negotiated settlement of the nuclear crisis and better ties with the United States. Whereas in his first term Ahmadinejad appealed to Iran’s urban and rural working poor, during his second term he seems to have reached out to Iran’s important urban middle-class.

The Ahmadinejad-Mashaei Current advanced its agenda by at least four primary. First, they attempted to create a social base, composed of the urban and rural working poor and to a lesser extent the urban middle-class, that would come out and vote for it during elections. It did this primarily through redistributive economic policies (such as subsidy reform rebate deposits) which promised to put the nation’s oil wealth on “the people’s dinner cloths”. Second, they attempted to create an economic base by using their power to award contracts, privatize state assets, and give low-interest loans to enrich close allies. Third, they attempted create base in the state bureaucracy by appointing loyalists to all of the positions under their purview, even when the appointees lacked even basic qualifications (the disastrous case of Ali Kordan comes to mind). Finally, they attempted to use their base in the Iranian intelligence community to gather secrets about the regime’s senior officials to use as blackmail or smear material.

This four pronged strategy appears to have largely failed. While segments of Iran’s working poor did turn out to support them during election time, they never became a mass movement and dissipated once elections ended. The urban middle-class was largely dismissive of the Ahmadinejad-Mashaei Current’s outreaches in part because of the president’s association with the crushing of the Green Movement. Their attempts at creating an economic base do not seem to have borne fruit, and their opponents link their economic activities to a number of recent financial corruption scandals. Their attempts to penetrate the Iranian state bureaucracy through appointment did not fare much better; many of the appointments that were not blocked by parliament were stopped by other means. Only their attempts to gather embarrassing secrets on senior officials may have met with some success, given that their main base of power looks as if it is mainly in the intelligence community. But even here their efforts have been frustrated. The 2011 Heydar Moslehi affair, in which Ahmadinejad tried to remove the sitting intelligence minister but was stopped by the supreme leader, appears to have been linked with the Ahmadinejad-Massaei Current’s attempt to expand their influence in the intelligence ministry and gather dirt on political rivals.

For the time being, the Khamenei continues to support Ahmadinejad despite his open challenges to the supreme leader. But it is clear that the hardline establishment is ready to abandon Ahmadinejad, and some are even sharpening their knives for him. Without any sizable social, economic, or bureaucratic base to support them, the Ahmadinejad-Mashaei Current is not long for this world. This may very well push the president and his most ardent supporters to create a domestic political crisis in the coming months. But this will not save them from the fate that likely awaits them, which at the very least will include exile from the center of the Iranian political stage.

Ahmadinejad’s intransigence and domestic political infighting has led some to conclude that Iran is weak and unable to seriously engage in nuclear negotiations with the P5+1 (UN Security Council Permanent Five plus Germany). This is especially easy to understand in light of Iran’s apparent retreat regionally, particularly in Syria. However such an analysis is flawed, at least in the long-term. The regime will likely not be prepared to negotiate with the P5+1 during the course of its election campaign. However, it appears to be slowly getting its house in order and creating a united hardline front domestically, which it will be successful in doing barring unforeseen events such as another election protest movement. (The regime does seem concerned about the rise of precisely such a movement during the election as a result of the severe economic pressure on Iran over the last several years from domestic mismanagement, corruption, and economic reforms as well as international economic sanctions). Furthermore, while the Syrian civil war has no doubt eroded Iran’s regional clout, it is likely to retain significant influence in post-Bashar al-Assad Syria in one form or another.

Like many past revolutions, the Islamic Revolution has eaten many of its own children. Since the Islamic Republic’s inception in 1979, many political currents and figures have attained the presidency only to be ejected from power some years later. Few have proven themselves capable of taming the treacherous waters of Iranian politics. The Ahmadinejad-Mashaei Current is only the latest example of this phenomena. While they could create serious problems for the regime in the short-term and even continue to exist in some form after the 2013 election, they are very unlikely to be serious political players in the future.
 

Agha Shojaa

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May I ask why ? What is so attractive about him ?
Shahin jan,

I have two main reasons for wanting to vote for him:

1) He does not believe in the Velayateh Faghih concept; and

2) He believes that an akhoond belongs to hozeh elmiyeh and should have no business in politics.

For me, seeing someone like Mashaei in power will mean an eventual change in Iranian polictics. Whether this change is towards a better direction is something to be seen but in my view, it cannot be any worse than what it is now. And most importantly, he can be the one person we have all been waiting for from within that can bring about some real change without causing any major damage or chaos. We all thought Khatami was that person not knowing that he had no balls. So, I'd like to give Mashaei the beneft of the doubt.
 

Zob Ahan

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Shahin jan,

I have two main reasons for wanting to vote for him:

1) He does not believe in the Velayateh Faghih concept; and

2) He believes that an akhoond belongs to hozeh elmiyeh and should have no business in politics.

For me, seeing someone like Mashaei in power will mean an eventual change in Iranian polictics. Whether this change is towards a better direction is something to be seen but in my view, it cannot be any worse than what it is now. And most importantly, he can be the one person we have all been waiting for from within that can bring about some real change without causing any major damage or chaos. We all thought Khatami was that person not knowing that he had no balls. So, I'd like to give Mashaei the beneft of the doubt.
AS jan if he was against Velayat how come he says he is a "sarbaze Velayat". How many secular people have the AN/Mashaei people appointed? Can you name even one person? Other than a couple of one liners like we are friends with the people of Israel or we are the followers of an Iranian school of thought what ACTONS have these 2 men taken? Have you seen what has become of the "Miraase farhangi" that Esi has headed for 7 years? If people say I go for him because it would create a rift between the IR hierarchy I can understand but to call him zed Velayat and anti Akhund I don't get.
 
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Khatami pulls no support. He is a joke, and pretty much a stooge for the regime.

Mashaei or even AN may say nice things about Khamenei here and there but the overall trend of their politics is moving away from clerics. Mashaei even said that the era of Islam has come to an end and its time to move forward. He is still working within the frameworks of IR so he cant be absolutely critical of everything that happens. You can not deny the extent of damage that has been done to the Islamic Republic by AN. The constant infighting among officials and breaking taboos.

In Khamenei ham hey miad mige in ghalat kard on bija kard hala keshesh nadid. The conservatives are fighting btw themselves and I am more than glad to pour more gasoline on the fire. Mashaei is not a good guy but he will further acclerate the demise of system as we know it. I doubt that he will be allowed to. The regime will take care of him and AN soon. I am just hoping that AN makes this as nasty as possible.
 
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Shahin jan,

I have two main reasons for wanting to vote for him:

1) He does not believe in the Velayateh Faghih concept; and

2) He believes that an akhoond belongs to hozeh elmiyeh and should have no business in politics.

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Source? If that was true why didn't khamenei prefer Mosavi over AN? If someone with these belifs could be approved by
the Guardian council IRI was gone years ago.
 

Zob Ahan

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Khatami pulls no support. He is a joke, and pretty much a stooge for the regime.

Mashaei or even AN may say nice things about Khamenei here and there but the overall trend of their politics is moving away from clerics. Mashaei even said that the era of Islam has come to an end and its time to move forward. He is still working within the frameworks of IR so he cant be absolutely critical of everything that happens. You can not deny the extent of damage that has been done to the Islamic Republic by AN. The constant infighting among officials and breaking taboos.

In Khamenei ham hey miad mige in ghalat kard on bija kard hala keshesh nadid. The conservatives are fighting btw themselves and I am more than glad to pour more gasoline on the fire. Mashaei is not a good guy but he will further acclerate the demise of system as we know it. I doubt that he will be allowed to. The regime will take care of him and AN soon. I am just hoping that AN makes this as nasty as possible.
I hope you are right about the infighting pulling IR down for good but I am doubtful. I also believe if they let both Khatami and Mashai run and someone like Velayati we will see 70-20-10 % respectively (mohandesi nashodeh). People just think their better lives during Khatami era was because of him. The best scenario would be the disqualification of Mashaei and riots following it and people winning.
 
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I just do not want Khatami anywhere near the upcoming elections. His presence will be used by the regime to counter Mashaei and AN. Without Khatami or any other eslah talab the regime will be left with Rezai, and either, Velayati, Hadad, or Ghalibaf. That is pretty much a shit election with no enthusiasm behind it. They would almost need Mashaei to get people excited. Now whether they will steal the votes would be interesting.

Khatami's presence would just screw everything up. The reformers need to sit out and let the conservatives fight each other. Do not give them a reason to unite.
 
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ZA jan why would there be riots if Mashaei is disqualified? Do you think he has the popular support that Mousavi did 4 years ago?

I will never vote in IR again (unless something dramatic happens in the next 3 months) but for the sake of the economy, I do hope Khatami is 'selected' and has the freedom to at least manage the economy.

AN/Mashaei have driven Iran to the verge of economic implosion (attn those that are impressed with Mashaei's one liners) and another term of them could ruin the country altogether and destroy any dream we still may have.

Economy needs to be addressed first IMO. Political and social freedom have waited centuries and 34 years respectively. They can wait a few more years.
 

shahinc

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Shahin jAn,

He will be the toughest headache to IRR, he might even make it explode from within. like Kazem AghA I will also vote for him if he manages to run, I think every body should, it will be pop corn time.

Last week he headed "Nakhostin Jashn e Honarmandan e Iran" Probably all IRR haters inside that hall. Look at this pic. she was one of the participants and prize winners.

hAlA Mashdi miAd yeh chizi migeh :D

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I hope you are right Motori Aziz. I am going to be honest and say that I have not figured out this guy yet. He is definitely AN's confidant and trusty and I find it hard to believe that such a person from that party can make any progressive move for Iran and future.
 

Zob Ahan

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ZA jan why would there be riots if Mashaei is disqualified? Do you think he has the popular support that Mousavi did 4 years ago?I will never vote in IR again (unless something dramatic happens in the next 3 months) but for the sake of the economy, I do hope Khatami is 'selected' and has the freedom to at least manage the economy.

AN/Mashaei have driven Iran to the verge of economic implosion (attn those that are impressed with Mashaei's one liners) and another term of them could ruin the country altogether and destroy any dream we still may have.


Economy needs to be addressed first IMO. Political and social freedom have waited centuries and 34 years respectively. They can wait a few more years.

Az jan I don't think Mashaei has alot of popular support. If there is any it would be people like us being opportunist and taking advantage of a situation like this plus some people hoping for "handouts" under a Mashai/AN administration.
His disqualification could bring out the spark we were waiting for. Even MHM had no public support before he ran for president but people poured out to support him once the votes were rigged.
 

shahinc

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Shahin jan,

I have two main reasons for wanting to vote for him:

1) He does not believe in the Velayateh Faghih concept; and

2) He believes that an akhoond belongs to hozeh elmiyeh and should have no business in politics.

For me, seeing someone like Mashaei in power will mean an eventual change in Iranian polictics. Whether this change is towards a better direction is something to be seen but in my view, it cannot be any worse than what it is now. And most importantly, he can be the one person we have all been waiting for from within that can bring about some real change without causing any major damage or chaos. We all thought Khatami was that person not knowing that he had no balls. So, I'd like to give Mashaei the beneft of the doubt.
Thanks for Sharing Agha Shojaa Aziz
The two reason that you mentioned are huge if they are really what he believes and not just a show. Again, as I said in my reply it is just hard to believe that this is what AN and his friends are looking to change.
 
Jun 18, 2005
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IR headed for disaster. Thats what I am advocating. I want a shit show with these monkeys tearing each other up and people getting fed up and losing patience. The likes of Khatami will only prolong this process. Why would anyone here want IR to be around longer?
 

bardia

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Saeid joon biA, inam yeh ax az nazdik. Notice the 2 tone nail pulish. hAlA Hassan Agha del dard migireh...lol
I'm telling you vote for Mashaei and these marginalized "jigars" will florish.

Is that SalAr Aghili in white jacket?



white jacket : Hesam Navab Safavi actor

Lady in red: Niousha Zeyghami actress