Detroit files for bankruptcy

Oct 16, 2002
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DETROIT (AP) — The city of Detroit, which for years paid its bills with borrowed money, is the largest city in U.S. history to file for bankruptcy protection. Here's a look at how the city spiraled into financial ruin and why it's in so much trouble:

WHAT HAPPENED?
For decades, Detroit paid its bills by borrowing money while struggling to provide the most basic of services for its residents. The city, which was about to default on a good chunk of its $14 billion-plus debt, now will get a second chance in a federal bankruptcy court-led restructuring. Detroit's budget deficit this year alone is estimated at $380 million, and Kevyn Orr, its state-appointed emergency manager, chose bankruptcy over diverting money from police, fire and other services to make debt payments. The move conserves cash so the city can operate, but it will hurt Detroit's image for years. It also leaves creditors with pennies on the dollar and places in jeopardy the pension benefits of thousands of city retirees.
WHY DID IT HAPPEN?
It took decades of decay to bring down the once-mighty industrial giant that put the world on wheels. The city grew to 1.8 million people in the 1950s, luring them with plentiful jobs that paid good wages to stamp out automobiles for sale across the globe. But like many American cities, Detroit's fall began late that decade as developers starting building suburbs. Then came the 1967 riots that accelerated the number of white residents who moved to the cities north of Eight Mile Road, considered the region's racial dividing line. At the same time, auto companies began opening plants in other cities, and the rise of autos imported from Japan started to cut the size of the U.S. auto industry. Detroit's property values fell, tax revenue dropped, police couldn't control a growing murder rate, and many middle-class blacks fled the city for safer suburbs with better schools. By 2009, the auto industry collapsed along with the economy as a whole, eventually pulling the city down with it. Government corruption under former Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick only made things worse. In the 2000 census, Detroit's population fell under 1 million in as the exodus continued. Today it's barely above 700,000.
DID THE AUTO INDUSTRY'S FALL DRAG DOWN DETROIT?
It's a big factor. The city is littered with abandoned factories built in the postwar boom years, most of which have multiple stories. As the Japanese auto invasion began cutting into Detroit's sales, General Motors, Chrysler, Ford and hundreds of auto parts companies looked outside the city to build one-story plants that could handle modern assembly lines. With every downturn, more companies abandoned the city, leaving the hulking buildings to squatters. Detroit's tax base continued to erode. By the time the auto industry melted down in 2009, only a few factories from GM and Chrysler were left. GM is the only one with headquarters in Detroit, though it has huge research and testing centers with thousands of jobs outside the city.
WHERE ELSE HAS THIS HAPPENED?
Before Detroit, the largest local government bankruptcy filing was in Jefferson County, Ala., in November 2011. The county cited more than $4 billion in debt, mostly from corrupt deals involving sewer financing that fell apart when the home mortgage crisis hit in 2008. The county is still trying to clean up the mess. Last month, commissioners sought a compromise that calls for paying creditors a little over half the money they're due and raising sewer rates. They hope to exit bankruptcy by December. Jefferson County has nearly 700,000 people, which is similar in size to Detroit, and includes the city of Birmingham. The economic crisis also caused bankruptcies of smaller cities. The California cities of Stockton, San Bernardino, and Mammoth Lakes all filed for bankruptcy last year. Stockton and San Bernardino were hit by plummeting home values during the recession, which cut property and sales taxes, while Mammoth Lakes was overwhelmed by a $43 million breach-of-contract judgment brought against it by a developer.
JUST WHO DOES DETROIT OWE?
There are 53 creditors negotiating with Orr's restructuring team. Of those, 48 creditors are unsecured, meaning the money they're owed is not backed by city revenue streams like water service fees or casino taxes. Other creditors include unions and retirees who receive city pensions. Two public employee pension systems are the top unsecured creditors, according to bankruptcy documents. The city General Retirement System's claim is just more than $2 billion. The Police and Fire Retirement System is owed more than $1.4 billion. The documents filed also show more than 100,000 creditors that include individual retirees, city workers, banks, other businesses, property owners and litigants, though amounts owed aren't listed.
GENERAL MOTORS REBOUNDED AFTER BANKRUPTCY. CAN DETROIT FOLLOW?
Maybe. In GM's 2009 government-funded bankruptcy, the company was split in two, with money-making assets staying at GM and decrepit plants and billions in debt going to a separate company. GM reduced its debt from $46 billion to $8 billion and used the bankruptcy to close factories, shed brands and get more concessions from union workers. The new, leaner company has since racked up $17.2 billion in profits and added jobs in Detroit. For the city, the comeback will be much harder. Its decaying neighborhoods can't be sent elsewhere. But creditors whom Detroit owes more than $14 billion will have to take pennies on the dollar. Thousands of retired city workers could lose at least part of their pension benefits. Concessions could be forced upon dozens of city unions, including pay and benefit cuts. Free of these financial burdens, Detroit will be able to concentrate its limited dollars on services such as basic police and fire protection. Better services could bring more people and lure more business investment. Already the downtown and an area to the north called Midtown are seeing business and residential growth — signs that Detroit has a future.

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Flint

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Another Dem run city bites the dust, proving Margaret Thatcher's famous quote that socialism ends when you run out of other people's money. I am sure a Guiliani-like figure will emerge from the ashes.
 

shahinc

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City like Detroit files for bankruptcy and you turn on CNN and all you can see is discussion about race in America !!!
 
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I am sure a Guiliani-like figure will emerge from the ashes.
Waay be haale sakaneh badbakht e Detroit if that day comes:)!
Baba this city has been in decline since 1950s. It's population was 2,000,000 now it is 700,000 with the tax base eroding, it is not the Dem's fault, it is more the decline of the American manufacturing rather than Dems or Republicans.
Vassat dava boll nageer Mr.
 

ChaharMahal

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City like Detroit files for bankruptcy and you turn on CNN and all you can see is discussion about race in America !!!
media does not like complicated financial cases.

but on a side note. this has been coming for a long long time. Detroit has been struggling for a long time.
 
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What does that mean?! I mean constitutional or not, they're bankrupt!
I ain't no lawyer, but if the judges decision is not reversed on appeal, that means the City has to re negotiate with its main creditors to reach a settlement. My understanding is that the City's main creditors are City government employees unfunded pensions.
Imagine you are a city employee, retired after 30 years, and count on a stream of money coming to you for ever, all of sudden, you are told you will get pennies on a $ and you are 70 years old.
There are no good choices for the motor city without a lot of pain.
 

ChaharMahal

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What does that mean?! I mean constitutional or not, they're bankrupt!
There are two types of basic bankruptcy by u. standards.

Chapter 7 (Liquidation - The Company, The person, the entity) has no usefulness when to let it resume operations.
so the creditors ask that all company assets be sold
and divided by a judge based on seniority of debt.

Chapter 11- This happens all the time by Airlines and cities. where the creditors take over the operations of the company.
or at least they partially they take over. they partially take a hair cut and the entity resumes to operate and makes reduced
payments.

in the case of the banks there is small resolution authority that FDIC has.

in case of finical institutions Dodd Frank is trying to give resolution authority in case of failure to regulators.
so you can't have that one creditor that is playing games.
 

Flint

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Waay be haale sakaneh badbakht e Detroit if that day comes:)!
Baba this city has been in decline since 1950s. It's population was 2,000,000 now it is 700,000 with the tax base eroding, it is not the Dem's fault, it is more the decline of the American manufacturing rather than Dems or Republicans.
Vassat dava boll nageer Mr.
Democratic administrations have proven themselves over and over again to be terrible financial managers. City hall is turned over to the unions. Cities with 8 to 1 Democratic registration turn to Republicans to put things back together. You say Detroit has fizzled as a city? Mayor is the city manager. If he is losing tax base it is his fault.
 
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That is not true, You just have to look at the financial situations under Reagan and Bush and compare it to Clinton and Obama. There is a reason why you have Warren Buffet, the riches man in American consulting on the Democrat side.

Democratic administrations have proven themselves over and over again to be terrible financial managers. City hall is turned over to the unions. Cities with 8 to 1 Democratic registration turn to Republicans to put things back together. You say Detroit has fizzled as a city? Mayor is the city manager. If he is losing tax base it is his fault.
 
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The movie Roger and Me perfectly explained it. It was the GM CEO back then that decided to shut down manufacturing there and move the jobs to overseas to make much higher profit for the higher management, which he did, at the cost of many loosing their jobs, saving, homes, etc.

While it is important to keep the free market, one must also realize there is a big problem with it where short term profit for the management can cause the majority of the company to become homeless, and that has ripple effect through the economy as causes less money spend and more and more out of jobs and high unemployment. For a short term profit that hurts long term which is what we are seeing today. Not to mention the financial crisis of few years ago caused by the small group of people for high profits into their own pockets.
Waay be haale sakaneh badbakht e Detroit if that day comes:)!
Baba this city has been in decline since 1950s. It's population was 2,000,000 now it is 700,000 with the tax base eroding, it is not the Dem's fault, it is more the decline of the American manufacturing rather than Dems or Republicans.
Vassat dava boll nageer Mr.
 

Flint

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That is not true, You just have to look at the financial situations under Reagan and Bush and compare it to Clinton and Obama. There is a reason why you have Warren Buffet, the riches man in American consulting on the Democrat side.
The likes of Warren Buffet and his ilk in Hollywood are siding with the soak the rich crowd as a protection racket. Did the Occupy Wall Street crowd ever picket anybody in Hollywood? They are in the 1%, aren't they? Buffet is on safe grounds asking everybody else's taxes to go up because his income tax rate won't be affected. Le't tax people's total wealth and we'll see how loud he'll squeal.
 

Flint

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The movie Roger and Me perfectly explained it. It was the GM CEO back then that decided to shut down manufacturing there and move the jobs to overseas to make much higher profit for the higher management, which he did, at the cost of many loosing their jobs, saving, homes, etc.
May I ask which overseas plant has GM returned to the US under the stewardship of the majority owner, Mr. Obama, you know, the one you like.
 

khodam

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Another Dem run city bites the dust, proving Margaret Thatcher's famous quote that socialism ends when you run out of other people's money. I am sure a Guiliani-like figure will emerge from the ashes.
Yep, Republicans just specialize in f%$#ing up the whole country :)
 

Flint

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Obama would kill for the unemployment Bush had for 7 out of 8 years. He has succeeded in conditioning the country for the new "normal". The generation that is growing up now thinks today's misery is what this country has always been like.
 
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Flint, I thought you were against taxing of the rich. No? I know a billionaire and he told me that they are a very happy crowd under Obama. When they paid around 10% previously with offshoring, etc.. now they pay around 4%. So, the Obama president you guys were thinking is a communist happens to run the economy much more conservative than the conservatives. That is why it is hard for conservatives to hit back and win as they have no grounds to campaing on. The wealthy that was bankrolling the republicans is actually happier under Obama as the economy is getting stronger and the taxes are getting lower. The only difference is Obama throws few bones to the middle class too, where republicans are all about wealthy, as well as throws some bones to the unemployed and not well to do.

In Some way, you can say he is everybody's president. Now, I dont disagree with many of the things of both parties as they are rolled by the same group at the top, but prefer someone who gives some shit about every group rather republicans that only care about the very wealthy.

The likes of Warren Buffet and his ilk in Hollywood are siding with the soak the rich crowd as a protection racket. Did the Occupy Wall Street crowd ever picket anybody in Hollywood? They are in the 1%, aren't they? Buffet is on safe grounds asking everybody else's taxes to go up because his income tax rate won't be affected. Le't tax people's total wealth and we'll see how loud he'll squeal.
 
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Yeah, everyone I talk to wants to go back to the times of Bush when the economy. You are joking right? By today's misery, you mean the one that Bush created and Obama has made much better? Dude, people dont easily forget how horrible it was regardless of how much conservatives spin it.

Obama would kill for the unemployment Bush had for 7 out of 8 years. He has succeeded in conditioning the country for the new "normal". The generation that is growing up now thinks today's misery is what this country has always been like.
 
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I think it is way too late for that. We can look at Germany as a model where their manufacturing did not move.

May I ask which overseas plant has GM returned to the US under the stewardship of the majority owner, Mr. Obama, you know, the one you like.