Erdogan in Tabriz

Zob Ahan

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A good chance for people to chant for their rights but instead they say: Turkiye Azarbayjan. What else are they saying?



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They should take Khamenei with them and move to Turkey.
Don't you see this is a perfect propaganda for IRI? Once Iran is
in a state of Anachy they can ask for seperation.
 
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Iran-Parast

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we should start supporting the PKK in Turkey and the Talysh and Lezhgins in Rep. of Aran. Also we should become the first country that recognizes gharabagh as an independent nation.
 
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TA ZAMANİKE İNA FEK KONAN VAGHAEN NEJADESHUN MOTEFAVETE İNJUR CHİZA 100 DAR SAD TABİ HASTESH KE İN KARARO BOKONAN.

http://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/مردم_آذری

آذربایجانیان بسیار به سایر ایرانیان قرابت دارند، گرچه زبانشان ترکی است. دی***ان***ای ساکنین بومی منطقه تفاوتی با دیگر نقاط ایران ندارد
 
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^İNDİANA JONES^;886139 said:
TA ZAMANİKE İNA FEK KONAN VAGHAEN NEJADESHUN MOTEFAVETE İNJUR CHİZA 100 DAR SAD TABİ HASTESH KE İN KARARO BOKONAN.

http://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/مردم_آذری

آذربایجانیان بسیار به سایر ایرانیان قرابت دارند، گرچه زبانشان ترکی است. دی***ان***ای ساکنین بومی منطقه تفاوتی با دیگر نقاط ایران ندارد
I have talked to many of them(Arari seperationists). They hope to join Turkey and later to EU.
They have no problem in living in Iran but prefer to join Turkey. Seperationists do not represent the majority. Still they have many activists who want this to happen. Best ting Iran can do is to ask Iranians from othertown to move to northern western part of the country and move some from those area to other places.
 

Iran-Parast

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I have talked to many of them(Arari seperationists). They hope to join Turkey and later to EU.
They have no problem in living in Iran but prefer to join Turkey. Seperationists do not represent the majority. Still they have many activists who want this to happen. Best ting Iran can do is to ask Iranians from othertown to move to northern western part of the country and move some from those area to other places.
lol at turkey joining EU. we heve 3 million afgani tajiks living in iran who would do anything to get an iranian citizenship, thus we can give them citizenship on grounds that they would live in tabriz.
 

Iran-Parast

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^İNDİANA JONES^;886139 said:
TA ZAMANİKE İNA FEK KONAN VAGHAEN NEJADESHUN MOTEFAVETE İNJUR CHİZA 100 DAR SAD TABİ HASTESH KE İN KARARO BOKONAN.

http://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/مردم_آذری

آذربایجانیان بسیار به سایر ایرانیان قرابت دارند، گرچه زبانشان ترکی است. دی***ان***ای ساکنین بومی منطقه تفاوتی با دیگر نقاط ایران ندارد
you are never going to change the way they think, we have to deal with them with force.
 
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baba torkiye taze shurue kare!!!be khatere in eslam gerayi tu un keshvar dige fek konam hala halaha ta chand sale dige varede EU bashan.vali un moge ishalah iran ke azad shod un moge mibinim in tajzie talabe khodeshuno koja bekhan bechasbunan!!!


dar zamn unaike unjan engad nadoonan ke namidunan khode jokehaye govmiyati ro khode dastgahaye rejim misaze o mifresan tu mobile hame ke in shekaf bishtar oj begire.hala hey began haray haray man felan man fesaram
 

Iran-Parast

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eu ham az nazareh farhangi nemikhad torkha ozv beshan va na az nazar e eghtesadi. torkiye hashtad million jamiatdare va gdpish nesbat be keshvar hayeh eu kheili kamtareh, va hala hala ha ham nakhahad nazdik shod. be ezafeh enke kheili az europie ha nemikhan torkha rahat betounan bian tou keshvar hashoon. badesham masaleyeh ghebres va human rightseh kurdha hast.
 

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lol at turkey joining EU. we heve 3 million afgani tajiks living in iran who would do anything to get an iranian citizenship, thus we can give them citizenship on grounds that they would live in tabriz.

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ببخشید دوست عزیز شما نئشه ای؟

بپا از تهران و اصفهان و یزد بیرونت نندازند. تبریز پیش کشت.

ترکها صاحب ایرانند. خواستی فارس خالص بازی در بیاری بهت استقلال بدیم بری کویر لوت. اونوقت هرچقدر خواستی بهشون شهروندی کویر بده. مواد هم به موقع برات میرسونند و میتونی تو خیالاتت تا دلت میخوای ترکها رو بیرون کنی.
 
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@referee manzure İRAN PARAST hame tabrizia nabud.fagat unaike donbale tajzie hastan budesh.dar zamn torka sahebe iran nistan.momkene hage tork zabun ba fars zabun yeki bashe tu iran unjurike nejadamun yekie.vali saheb nistan.iranam male aryayihast va hij vajam male kase digei nabude va hij vajam nakhahadam bud aslan.(tork zabune iraniam aryayie).tafrage o govmiyat bazi ro zire pamun leh mikonim be omide etehade mardome iran harche zutar...
 
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So the referee comes from that part.
Ref: He means the sepertioninsts. If it comes that far will get help from Ardebil. Then you will not reach Esfahan or Tehran.
As you know Ardabil wants seperation from Tabriz and azarbeijan.:2:
 
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oghabealborz

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What those few minorities with separatist ill intentions are doing is an insult to those brave martyrs from Azarbaijan who gave their life to protect their country throughout our long history , from Babak Khoramdin to sattar khan and Bagher khan to all those brave hearts in the 8 year imposed war against Iraq .
 

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^İNDİANA JONES^;886149 said:
@referee manzure İRAN PARAST hame tabrizia nabud.fagat unaike donbale tajzie hastan budesh.dar zamn torka sahebe iran nistan.momkene hage tork zabun ba fars zabun yeki bashe tu iran unjurike nejadamun yekie.vali saheb nistan.iranam male aryayihast va hij vajam male kase digei nabude va hij vajam nakhahadam bud aslan.(tork zabune iraniam aryayie).tafrage o govmiyat bazi ro zire pamun leh mikonim be omide etehade mardome iran harche zutar...
دوست عزیز لطفا ماله کشی نفرمائید. منظور ایشون با استفاده از کلماتی مثل سه ملیون افغانی و استفاده از زور برای فهم اینکه ما ترک نیستیم کاملا واضح بود. متاسفانه این نژاد پرستی شوونیستی که بر اساس نژاد خالص تو مخ شما ها گنجانده شده به این زودیها درست نمیشه اما راه حل من مثل راه حل بعضی از دوستان زور و استفاده از افغانها نیست بلکه تذکر دوستانه است. شاید شما ها هم یک روز یاد بگیرید که با این واقعیت که یک ترک افتخار میکند که ترک است چه ترک ایرانی و آذری باشد و چه ترک قفقاز و ازبکستان یا ترکیه کنار بیائید همانگونه که یک فارس زبان افغانستان به زبان و فرهنگش عشق میورزد چه نژادش مغول باشد و چه از نسل اعراب و ساسانیان.

البته این مشکل فقط شماها نیست. بلکه ترکهای پان ترک ترکیه و عربهای متعصب و خیلی های دیگر مثل شماها کوته بین هستند و به فرهنگ و زبان دیگران مرتب بی احترامی میکنند. این یک مرضی بود که امثال رضاشاه و آتاتورک و صدام به آن مبتلا بودند و نشر دادند.
 

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البته این مشکل فقط شماها نیست. بلکه ترکهای پان ترک ترکیه و عربهای متعصب و خیلی های دیگر مثل شماها کوته بین هستند و به فرهنگ و زبان دیگران مرتب بی احترامی میکنند. این یک مرضی بود که امثال رضاشاه و آتاتورک و صدام به آن مبتلا بودند و نشر دادند
My friend, as you said, some are unkind and try to fit racial chauvinism where it has no place. However, don’t you think you’re pretty much doing the same thing when you say “Torkha Sahebeh Irannand?”

Furthermore, you mentioned the “Pan Turkists” from Turkey and “Pan Arabists” as having been afflicted by the racial superiority disease. Is it a Freudian slip that you don’t include the Iranian Azari separatists in that group?

My countrymen are and will always remain Iranian, regardless if they are Turk, Lur, Gilak, Arab, Baluch, Fars, Kurd, or any other ethnicity making up our nation.
 
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I also say give us a break. My father was born in malayer my mom in Sanandaj. We moved to Tehran when I was 5 years old. No one ever said any thing
to us. Look Googoosh, Aref, Darush, Behruz vosoghi, Mirhosseine Mosavi I don't know Ali Daei were all from Azarbeijan. Who is racist?
 

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My friend, as you said, some are unkind and try to fit racial chauvinism where it has no place. However, don’t you think you’re pretty much doing the same thing when you say “Torkha Sahebeh Irannand?”
I do say it again and again in the same way Persian speaking and all other Iranians own Iran.
Turks, as 25% of the country and responsible for Iran's as being a united Iran for as long as they have been in Iranian history are definitely SAHEB KHAANEH and not some folks you could move them out because their rent is due..

Furthermore, you mentioned the “Pan Turkists” from Turkey and “Pan Arabists” as having been afflicted by the racial superiority disease. Is it a Freudian slip that you don’t include the Iranian Azari separatists in that group?
I am yet to see a separatist Pan Turkist Azari personally, my friend!

What you see about this separatist hype is only AVAAZE DOHOL and nothing of substance..a online TV with no people watching it!

That does not mean Azaris are immune to the disease. They are. However, they have not had no chance of exhibiting the symptoms as they have been suppressed. Now they have some means of showing it, you can see some clips here and there or some slogans in the stadium.

Mind you, some of our Azari fellows are also brain washed and contaminated with this Arian superiority complex too.

So what you are saying is that someone has German Measles (being suppressed and all) and I did not say he is capable of catching cold or some other disease (being a pan Turkist). The German measles has not let the other disease to even show its signs!


My countrymen are and will always remain Iranian, regardless if they are Turk, Lur, Gilak, Arab, Baluch, Fars, Kurd, or any other ethnicity making up our nation.
Can not say it any better Pahlevoon... Rokhsat.. :)
 

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I also say give us a break. My father was born in malayer my mom in Sanandaj. We moved to Tehran when I was 5 years old. No one ever said any thing
to us. Look Googoosh, Aref, Darush, Behruz vosoghi, Mirhosseine Mosavi I don't know Ali Daei were all from Azarbeijan. Who is racist?
Firstly DS jaan, my points were not directed to you at all. I was talking about racist use of words such as "force", "replacing them with Afghans", "your DNA is Aryan then you should forget about your 500 years of Turkish culture and stop calling yourself Turk because I do not have enough IQ to understand a Turk is not necessarily a citizen of Turkey".

Secondly, all the above are not only from Azarbaijan, they are Turks. Their mother tongue proudly is Azari Turkish, a version of Turkish. Being a Turk is like being a FARS. It has nothing to do with citizenship. It is like being Arab. Arab of Khuzestan owns Iran as much as anyone else in this country, no matter if his forefathers were soldiers of Sa'd ebne Abi Vaghas or not and he has all the rights to call himself an Arab without any social, or other fears of being played down.

Again, as I said, if someone is unhappy about pluralistic nature of our country, the way it has been since Darius's time (yes in his time also the languages like Semetic language of Aramaic were official) through history of Safavids and until the time the nationalism disease started in 19th century to force nations into ONE language and ONE identity, then he/she can have an independence in KAVIRe LOOT and have all speaking ONE language and be proud to be a descendants of glorious fictional Aryan race who build it all by themselves. Iran belongs to Iranians and not to them!