Gunfire in Beirut

Javeed

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BEIRUT, Lebanon (CNN) -- Gunfire broke out in downtown Beirut Thursday after Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah said recent government actions amount to "a declaration of open war."
"Just in the past few minutes ... things have gotten a lot worse," CNN's Cal Perry reported from downtown Beirut. The sound of automatic gunfire and rocket-propelled grenades could be heard throughout his live reports.
Perry, who took cover with the Lebanese army, said government forces have not yet reacted to the violence.
The gunbattles were taking place between Shiite and Sunni neighborhoods in the capital, near CNN's Beirut Bureau.
Watch Perry call in through gunfire »
The Lebanese army, which is charged with trying to keep peace in the capital, is in a precarious position, Perry explained.
"When you're talking about this much gunfire, when you're talking about RPG fire, it's absolutely ludicrous to think that the army will put themselves between these two factions," he said.
Video of the scene showed tanks and armored personnel carriers moving through empty streets past shuttered stores.
The violence erupted shortly after Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah said the government's attempts to halt Hezbollah's use of a telecommunications system amounts to "a declaration of open war."
"We believe the war has started and we believe that we have the right to defend ourselves," Nasrallah said in a televised speech. "We will cut the hand that will reach out to the weapons of the resistance no matter if it comes from the inside or the outside."
At the same time, Nasrallah called for dialogue, saying, "We are ready, whoever wants a compromise, we are here and ready."
"Those who have taken decisions leading to war, let them withdraw their decisions and there would be no war," he said.
"Am I declaring war? Not at all. I am declaring oppression and self-defense."
Lebanese Communications Minister Marwan Hamadi said Nasrallah's speech "is a direct threat of assassinating us."
"We are not scared of the threat," Hamadi told al-Arabiya. " 'Cutting off the hands' is a direct threat of assassination.
"He says it is a new phase; we say it is a new phase, too. We are determined to keep what is left of the Lebanese government."
Many Lebanese politicians who have opposed Syria's influence in their country have been assassinated in recent years, including former Prime Minister Rafik Hariri and four members of parliament.
The latest tensions between Lebanon's U.S.-backed government and Hezbollah were sparked Monday when the government sacked airport security chief Brig. Gen. Wafik Shoukeir.
The government believes Hezbollah was using the equipment to keep tabs on the movement of its opponents in the government.
Nasrallah defended Hezbollah's use of the monitoring equipment, saying it is the right of "any militia during war."
"This wired network is the most important weapon in the battle," he said.
Nasrallah accused the government of trying to make the Beirut airport "a base for the CIA, FBI and the Mossad," the Israeli secret police.
"That's why they wanted to suspend Brig. Gen. Wafik Shoukeir. ... They want to bring a loyal subject that will serve them at the airport."
In a rare display of anger toward Hezbollah, the highest Sunni Muslim spiritual authority in Lebanon accused the group of taking advantage of a labor strike on Wednesday by using it as a political opportunity, and of fomenting violence in Beirut.
The strike quickly escalated into a flashpoint over Lebanon's 17-month-old political crisis.
Hezbollah supporters continue to block all the roads leading to Beirut's airport, forcing the cancellation of nearly all flights.
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Gunbattles were reported Thursday in Beirut's seaport district of Corniche al-Mazraa. Tires continued to burn in Beirut, particularly in the downtown area, where a Hezbollah sit-in continues around the government buildings.
There were reports of clashes and gunfire in the Bekaa Valley overnight and Thursday morning.
Clashes in Beirut on Wednesday took on a sectarian tone, between Beirut's Sunni and Shiite neighborhoods.
Hezbollah is a Shiite militant group, backed by Syria and Iran, with political representation in Lebanon's government.
Members of Lebanon's other major Shiite party, Amal, also participated in Wednesday's strike.
Lebanon's political crisis began in late 2006, when Hezbollah pulled several ministers out of the government of U.S.-backed Prime Minister Fouad Siniora in an effort to destabilize his government.



The move happened as Siniora's government voted to support an international tribunal to investigate the 2005 killing of Hariri, which U.N. investigators have linked to Syria.
The country has been without a president since Emile Lahoud -- who was pro-Syrian -- left office after his term ended in November and parliament was unable to agree on a replacement.
 
Jun 7, 2004
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I seriously think that the region is moving towards a full blown Shia-Sunni conflict. It is playing out in Lebanon and it is playing out in a controlled manner in Iraq. The only reason that in Iraq the situation is not worst is because of the American presence. With the US likely leaving, there is a serious possibility of a full blown regional Shia-Sunni war with IR financing the Shias and Arabs financing the Sunnis and Israel instigating and cheering on.
 

Niloufar

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I seriously think that the region is moving towards a full blown Shia-Sunni conflict. It is playing out in Lebanon and it is playing out in a controlled manner in Iraq. The only reason that in Iraq the situation is not worst is because of the American presence. With the US likely leaving, there is a serious possibility of a full blown regional Shia-Sunni war with IR financing the Shias and Arabs financing the Sunnis and Israel instigating and cheering on.
well analyzed FT jan. An ultimate religious fraction conflict is what can involve many countries in the region in the conflict, from Pakistan and Afghanistan, to Iran, Leb, Iraq,Palestine, etc. khodeshun be joone ham mioftan,while benefiting Israel, USA, UK, Europe.

What I dont understand is, why would IR,Leb,Iraq(could be counted as one!) lead to this conflict knowing that it will only benefit Israel and alikes. Are they unintentionally digging their own grave or they r in mutual agreement with Israel over creating conflict in the region?
 
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I actually hear form my relatives that things are getting expensive. Is US fooling
Iran to participate in lebenon or is it IRI?
What he meant DS jaan is the recent decision of Tehran city council to send a bunch of the city's budget to Lebanon and that now they will probably send more of Tehran's money to Lebanon. He did not mean to imply anything deeper.

As far as such a move, the US does not need to fool IR and Sepahi types into such action. They are more than willing to sacrifice not just Tehranis but other Iranians for their idol. They are idol-worshipers who have traded their souls to the devil. Khomeini demonstrated this long ago, when he had 500,000 Iranians killed in rejecting peace offer and 10s of billions of payments from Arabs under the slogan war until Karbalah.
 
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What he meant DS jaan is the recent decision of Tehran city council to send a bunch of the city's budget to Lebanon and that now they will probably send more of Tehran's money to Lebanon. He did not mean to imply anything deeper..
I know that.
As far as such a move, the US does not need to fool IR and Sepahi types into such action. They are more than willing to sacrifice not just Tehranis but other Iranians for their idol. They are idol-worshipers who have traded their souls to the devil.
Don't you think US know this? I mean all they need to do is provocating Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah. Then he comes after money from his friend in Iran. This in itself is destablizing Iran further.
 

artavile

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What he meant DS jaan is the recent decision of Tehran city council to send a bunch of the city's budget to Lebanon and that now they will probably send more of Tehran's money to Lebanon. He did not mean to imply anything deeper.
Actually, I did. :)

The underling message was, this is the same old power struggle that existed between the two groups since Mohamad died.

If it escalates, not just Israel, US or UK but the rest of the world (at least the non-Moslem kind) would not lose much sleep over it. It will be perceived as a win-win situation, the ultimate “war on terror” by many.

Imagine when all these groups from hezbolah-to-taleban changing priorities from fighting the so-called-infidels to eliminating each other?

Who will be emerged as the peace mediator? No one.
 
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Ok. Then consider that such money given to Lebanon, while quite unjust and retarded is hardly the cause of prices increasing in Iran. There are other much greater factors for that.
Don't you think US know this? I mean all they need to do is provocating Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah. Then he comes after money from his friend in Iran. This in itself is destablizing Iran further.
If and when the conflicts escalates to much greater proportions all over M.E. then it will suck huge sums of money from Iran as well as Arab states. For now, the sum of money IR is contributing to Hezbollah is in a couple of billion range and while detrimental to Iran's economy, it is not in the top 10 list of harmful policies of the IR.
 
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Ok. Then consider that such money given to Lebanon, while quite unjust and retarded is hardly the cause of prices increasing in Iran. There are other much greater factors for that.
If and when the conflicts escalates to much greater proportions all over M.E. then it will suck huge sums of money from Iran as well as Arab states. For now, the sum of money IR is contributing to Hezbollah is in a couple of billion range and while detrimental to Iran's economy, it is not in the top 10 list of harmful policies of the IR.
Sounds right.
 
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Is this our money?
حزب الله کنترل غرب بیروت را در دست گرفت
بی بی سی : مردان مسلح حزب الله لبنان کنترل قسمت عمده غرب شهر بیروت، پایتخت لبنان، را در دست گرفته اند و طرفداران دولت را از این بخش شهر بیرون رانده اند.
مردان مسلح وابسته به حزب الله و ائتلاف شیعه مخالف دولت، در درگیری هایی که در طول شب گذشته روی داد کنترل این بخش شهر را که عمدتا مسلمان نشین است در دست گرفتند.
آنها بعضی از دفاتر ائتلاف سنی حامب دولت به رهبری سعد حریری را تسخیر یا ویران کرده و دفاتر تعدادی از رسانه های طرفدار دولت را در این منطقه تعطیل کردند.
ارتش لبنان به منطقه اعزام شده تا از ساختمان ها محافظت کند، اما از درگیری با مردان مسلح حزب الله خودداری می کند.
درگیری های اخیر در بیروت روز دوشنبه و بعد از آن که دولت لبنان شبکه مخابراتی حزب الله را مسدود کرد، آغاز شد.
در این درگیری ها 11 نفر کشته شده اند که عمدتا غیرنظامی بوده اند و ده ها نفر نیز زخمی شده اند.
شورای امنیت سازمان ملل متحد از دو طرف خواسته است درگیری ها را متوقف کنند.
لبنان در فاصله سال های 1975 تا 1990 درگیر جنگ داخلی بود. جنگی که به دخالت مستقیم سوریه و اسرائیل نیز منجر شد. این نگرانی وجود دارد که درگیری های فعلی بیروت نیز به جنگ داخلی منجر شود.
تحلیلگران می گویند کلید جلوگیری از بروز جنگ داخلی، بی طرف ماندن ارتش لبنان در این درگیری هاست.
پیشتر ارتش لبنان هشدار داده است که اگر بحران سیاسی در بیروت ادامه پیدا کند وحدت و یکپارچگی ارتش احتمالا آسیب خواهد دید.
در سال های اخیر ارتش لبنان یکی از بی طرف ترین ارگان های موجود در لبنان بوده است. اما خبرنگاران می گویند که درگیری های اخیر بین جناح های رقیب ممکن است باعث شود پای ارتش به این درگیریها کشیده شود.
درخواست های بین المللی
در تازه ترین واکنش های بین المللی، عربستان سعودی خواستار برگزاری اجلاس فوق العاده ورزای خارجه کشورهای عربی برای بررسی بحران لبنان شده است.
یکی از مقامات دولتی عربستان گفته است شورای وزیران اتحادیه عرب باید به دلیل آنچه بحرانی شدن خطرناک وضعیت لبنان هر چه زودتر در قاهره تشکیل جلسه دهد.
بان کی مون، دبیر کل سازمان ملل متحد، دو طرف را ترغیب کرده است "فورا به آشوب ها پایان دهند و کلیه جاده ها در کشور را بازگشایی کنند."
دولت آمریکا نیز از حزب الله و دیگر مخالفان دولت خواست "ایفای نقشی سازنده را شروع کنند و فعالیت های اخلال آور خود را متوقف کنند."
لبنان هم اکنون شاهد عمیق ترین بحران سیاسی خود از زمان جنگ داخلی است و پنج ماه است که رئیس جمهور نداشته است.

 
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Did you actually expect Hezbollah to lose this fight? Lebanon's army is a joke. So is the party of Saad Hariri.

And if this race was ever about money trust me the Americans would funnel billions to take out Hezbollah in Lebanon. That organization has done alot for that country and they are not going anywhere.
 

Hassan1980

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It is no secret that the Iranian regime supports Hezbollah. Everybody knows that.
did you knew that Iran created Hezbollah? we are the first country who had Hezbollahi members, we have hezbollahis till this day in our parliament. there are khomeini and khamenei pictures all over Hezbollah buildings
 
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Ok read this:
آقاي قاليباف ؛ نظرتان در باره چراغي كه به خانه رواست، چيست؟!


حتماً شنيده*ايد كه سردار شهر مي*خواهد با استفاده از اختيارات قانوني**اش! از محل درآمدهاي شهرداري تهران، مبلغ سه ميليارد تومان را به حزب*الله لبنان كمك كند.
در كشوري كه مقامات رسمي*اش اعتراف مي*كنند كه 15 ميليون نفر در زير خط فقر زندگي مي*كنند و كارشناسانش بر اين باورند كه دست كم 35 ميليون نفر از ايرانيان در شرايطي مصيبت*بار به زندگي ادامه مي*دهند، چگونه يك شهردار بايد به خود جرأت دهد و چنين تصميمي را علني سازد و تازه شوراي شهر هم از او پشتيباني كند؟!



آقاي قاليباف مگر نديديد كه مردم زاهدان براي افتتاح يك ورزشگاه فوتبال پس از 7 سال و صرف فقط هفت ميليارد تومان چقدر شادي كردند؟ چرا چنين شادي*هايي را از مردم ايرانشهر و سراواران و سرباز و نيك*شهر و خاش و زابل و آق قلا و ... بگيريم و به مردم لبنان هديه كنيم كه چنين تالارهاي مدي را در پايتخت*شان به نظاره مي*نشينند و حتي بنيادگراهايشان در مرگ صدام حسين به سر و سينه مي*زنند و لباس سياه بر تن مي*كنند؟!


خانم ابتكار، جناب نجفي، آقاي ساعي شما چرا سكوت كرده*ايد و سخني نمي*گوييد.
لطفاً اين تصاوير را در وبلاگ فلاپي ببينيد و باز هم بگوييد كه شهردار حق دارد كه پول اين مملكت و مردم محرومش را اينگونه حاتم*بخشي كند!



مگر نه اين است كه مي*گويند: چراغي كه به خانه رواست، به مسجد حرام است؟!

توضیح ضروری: خوشبختانه هم اینک از طریق یکی از خوانندگان عزیز به نام ابتهاج متوجه شدم که خانم ابتکار با این مصوبه شورا مخالفت کرده است. ضمن قدردانی از ایشان امیدوارم آقایان ساعی و نجفی نیز از این مصوبه ضد ایرانی اعلام برائت خود را اعلام کنند. همچنین برخی از دوستان یادآوری کرده اند که آقای قالیباف قلباْ راضی به اجرای این مصوبه نبوده است! اگر چنین است امیدوارم ایشان حداقل به اندازه خانم ابتکار شجاعت داشته باشند و این ناخشنودی خود را اعلام کنند.
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