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IEI

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US could not stay there forever! at some point they needed to get out!
Why do you think US even cares? same goes for those who expect US to come and FREE Iran! , US does NOT give a SHIT, US only do what is best for UNITED STATES.
It is not the best for United States either.
 

maziar95

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This US withdrawal process could of been handled better to avoid what we are witnessing today. But at the end of the day the US had to withdraw, 2 trillion dollars spent and they couldn't rebuild a country and build a formidable army. The issue with Afghanistan's army is that they have no national identity so they are not loyal or dedicated to protecting their country. Afghans have more of a tribal and religious identity so that's where the Taliban excels. Iran would be the same if it wasn't because of Reza Shah.
 
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This US withdrawal process could of been handled better to avoid what we are witnessing today. But at the end of the day the US had to withdraw, 2 trillion dollars spent and they couldn't rebuild a country and build a formidable army. The issue with Afghanistan's army is that they have no national identity so they are not loyal or dedicated to protecting their country. Afghans have more of a tribal and religious identity so that's where the Taliban excels. Iran would be the same if it wasn't because of Reza Shah.

It took US 20 years to know that there won't be a formidable army?
 

IEI

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It was failure under Biden who underestimated and didn't listen to anybody. All these bs, that they had to leave, is excuse. 40k soldiers are in South Korea for 60 years.
 
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Tof be roohe har chi extremiste...

http://instagr.am/p/CSpQbY3DkCm/

‏‎محمد نجیب‌الله‌ (۶ اوت ۱۹۴۷–۲۸ سپتامبر ۱۹۹۶) مشهور به داکتر نجیب، پزشک و سیاستمدار اهل افغنستان بود که ۵ سال ریاست خدمات امنیت دولتی افغنستان را عهده‌دار بود و سپس پنجمین رئیس جمهور افغانستان و واپسین رئیس‌جمهور حکومت جمهوری دموکراتیک افغانستان شد. او که از دانشگاه کابل فارغ شده بود، پیش از ریاست جمهوری، مقام‌های مختلفی را در جمهوری دموکراتیک افغانستان در اختیار داشت و از اعضای جناح پرچم حزب دموکراتیک خلق افغانستان بود.

نجیب‌الله پس از انقلاب ثور و شکل‌گیری جمهوری دموکراتیک افغانستان، در زمان حاکمیت حفیظ‌الله امین، سفیر افغانستان در ایران شد. در حکومت ببرک کارمل به عنوان رئیس خدمات امنیت دولتی برگزیده گردید و یکی از اعضای شاخهٔ حزب دموکراتیک خلق افغانستان بود. او پیش از سقوط کابل در سال ۱۹۹۶، به سازمان ملل متحد تقاضای پناهندگی کرد که به او اعطا شد.

‏‎نجیب در ساختمان سازمان ملل متحد بود که سربازان طالبان در شب ۲۶ سپتامبر ۱۹۹۶ او را از سازمان ملل ربوده و به مرگ شکنجه کردند، سپس جسد او را در پشت خودرویی بستند و در خیابان‌های کابل به نمایش گذاشتند. سرنوشت برادر او، شهپور احمدزی، نیز همانگونه بود. طالبان روز بعد به منظور نشان دادن به مردم که یک دورهٔ جدید آغاز شده، اجساد نجیب‌ و شاهپور را در روبروی کاخ ریاست جمهوری ارگ (چهارراه آریانا) بر روی تیرهای چراغ راهنمایی آویزان کردند. طالبان مانع برگزاری مراسم تشییع جنازه، خواندن نماز و غسل میت برای نجیب‌الله و شاهپور در کابل شدند. اجساد آنها بعداً به کمیته ی بین المللی صلیب سرخ تحویل داده شد و پس از آن به گردیز در ولایت پیکتیا انتقال یافت، جایی که اقوام احمدزی پس از خواندن نماز و اجرای مراسم تشییع جنازهٔ اسلامی برای محمد نجیب‌الله و برادرش شاهپور احمدزی آِن دو را به خاک سپردند.

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ME

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Those poor souls falling off the plane 😢
How tragic is that for those desperate people.
All democratic agenda,
Same thing they did to Shah and his army.
Same policy of bringing into power an extremist Islamist government for their global strategy.

The whole idea is to further destabilize a key region of Chinese Silk Road until America catches up with alternative plans. Expect a major war breaking out in the region within a year or two.
 

IEI

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All democratic agenda,
Same thing they did to Shah and his army.
Same policy of bringing into power an extremist Islamist government for their global strategy.

The whole idea is to further destabilize a key region of Chinese Silk Road until America catches up with alternative plans. Expect a major war breaking out in the region within a year or two.
Both Republican and Democrats underestimated the power of Taliban and deficiency of Afghan army that relied on US air power and leadership.
Let's not forget that Trump had an agreement with Taliban in Doha to get US army out in May of 2021.
 
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Both Republican and Democrats underestimated the power of Taliban and deficiency of Afghan army that relied on US air power and leadership.
Let's not forget that Trump had an agreement with Taliban in Doha to get US army out in May of 2021.
I wouldn't say underestimate. I'd say they planned for it and brought them back in proper time. The doomed region.
 

oghabealborz

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All democratic agenda,
Same thing they did to Shah and his army.
Same policy of bringing into power an extremist Islamist government for their global strategy.

The whole idea is to further destabilize a key region of Chinese Silk Road until America catches up with alternative plans. Expect a major war breaking out in the region within a year or two.
Indeed...
And some poor old naive souls are waiting for them to bring monarchy back!
How many times does one need to be stung from the same snake nest?!
 

ChaharMahal

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a Whole of people in the defense industrial complex and the "human rights" crowd are gone bitch about it.

the reality is the elites in America had decided Afghanistan was a bad idea back in 2010.

They kept searching for a way to "safely" withdraw their forces. but they finally realized there is no way. and just pulled the plug.

yes the whole processed proved that American policy makers don't give a rat's ass about lives of ordinary brown people over on the other side of the world.


but nobody will learn, they will keep on trying to go make Raiesi Dadgahi in Netherlands or this and that place.

when are you gone learn they don't care. they had their amusement with Afghanistan.they were gone make "peace" with iran so they can focus on china.

but all of that $hit got delayed by a good 8 years.


only people that got a use of out of this war was the defense contractors and Afghan elites by overcharing the American government for all kinds of phony charges.

did you see the house of "Marshal" Dostom? did you see Esmaieel khan's house in Herat?

did you see thousands of rich ass houses built solely for the purposes of housing the "human rights" crowd and defense contractors in Kabul.

It was all a sham. it was gone eventually fall a part.

that is just the sad truth.