Action vs. Inaction...
the question is to what end ?
Babak went against Motasem-abaasi knowing he would probably not be victorious but he still went.
His name is etched in Iranian history.
Aryo Barzan went against Eskandar e Gojastak knowing he will be destroyed but in his mind each invader that he killed during his own demise he helped the persian empire one less invader.
the question is to what end ?
Babak went against Motasem-abaasi knowing he would probably not be victorious but he still went.
His name is etched in Iranian history.
Aryo Barzan went against Eskandar e Gojastak knowing he will be destroyed but in his mind each invader that he killed during his own demise he helped the persian empire one less invader.
first of all they fought face to face with their enemy and their cause was clear. riggi hides in the mountains and others fight for him. he has caused the death of many innocent people not regimes members. and lastly from what i have read you seem to be anti islamist, and this guy is the sunni version of the current rulers.
No He is not a separatist, at least official view of his organization is NOT.
However, separatist or not, he is a terrorist. I came across a gruesome video of him beheading his own brother-in-law TALIBAN style. There are some others executing soldiers and Pasdars, who are not the same soldiers or pasdars shooting people but those who are there to fight drugs.
So any defense for him is injustice to poor people of Baluchestan and Iran.
That is not to say IRI is not the root cause of all this. But IRI atrocities does not justify any gruesome terrorism as Riggi's.
However, separatist or not, he is a terrorist. I came across a gruesome video of him beheading his own brother-in-law TALIBAN style. There are some others executing soldiers and Pasdars, who are not the same soldiers or pasdars shooting people but those who are there to fight drugs.
So any defense for him is injustice to poor people of Baluchestan and Iran.
That is not to say IRI is not the root cause of all this. But IRI atrocities does not justify any gruesome terrorism as Riggi's.
entezaar dashti lokht e maadar zaad bere jeloye majlese eslaami baa aslahe sheypoor bezane man mikhaam madaretoono begaam.
come on man ....
BTW so did Babak_e_khoramdeen. He stayed in the mountains where Motasem and his army (most of which were iranian moslem converts could not reach him till Afshin betrayed him)
my dear friend bullets don't have names on them. This is a logical and inevitable part of war. If we went by this mentality we would all be slaves for the German Aryan race as we speak probably making tampons for German women right now.
From what you read you are partially right. I am (have been since an early age) a non-believer of religion and any sort of Tohidi-type of God.
However if people decide to namaaz 16 000 000 rakats a day in the privacy of their home i totally have nothing against that. As long as they don't mix bot parasti with government, social issues and human rights.
about your last point the last two news conferences i heard from him were mostly oriented around a Democratic Republic of Iran in which ethnic communities such as baluchis can thrive.
Again i would like to listen to or see those speeches that brought about the thought that "he would enforce a sunni version of present regime in Iran"
Last but not least, i never heard him put any emphasis on him taking power. From what i know of the man he was hoping that his uprising would propogate to other provinces and eventually Tehran ....
What the result of that would have been, probably unknown,
would it have caused chaos, most probably,
would this chaos lead to the seperation of Baluchestaan, i seriously don't think so.
come on man ....
BTW so did Babak_e_khoramdeen. He stayed in the mountains where Motasem and his army (most of which were iranian moslem converts could not reach him till Afshin betrayed him)
my dear friend bullets don't have names on them. This is a logical and inevitable part of war. If we went by this mentality we would all be slaves for the German Aryan race as we speak probably making tampons for German women right now.
From what you read you are partially right. I am (have been since an early age) a non-believer of religion and any sort of Tohidi-type of God.
However if people decide to namaaz 16 000 000 rakats a day in the privacy of their home i totally have nothing against that. As long as they don't mix bot parasti with government, social issues and human rights.
about your last point the last two news conferences i heard from him were mostly oriented around a Democratic Republic of Iran in which ethnic communities such as baluchis can thrive.
Again i would like to listen to or see those speeches that brought about the thought that "he would enforce a sunni version of present regime in Iran"
Last but not least, i never heard him put any emphasis on him taking power. From what i know of the man he was hoping that his uprising would propogate to other provinces and eventually Tehran ....
What the result of that would have been, probably unknown,
would it have caused chaos, most probably,
would this chaos lead to the seperation of Baluchestaan, i seriously don't think so.
First, Rigi is the child of political system of Iran, which is IR.
Second, his style of fighting a war is the style of how terrorists fight a war.
Third, while he is concerned as a terrorist and a separatist by many Iranians, he might be concerned as a folk hero for many poor, oppressed Baluchis.
Fourth, as long as IR is in place, as long as it does not permit peaceful social and political activity, which could result in a more tolerable Iran in which not only Baluchis but also all other sections on the Iranians could participate in, there will be not only one but thousands of people like Rigi.
This could actually get worst as the small freedoms that were given under Khatami are being abolished. One reason why the Reformist movement of Iran came to existence was that, because there was brain left in some IR members, they thought of the country would not reform, it will head to civil war.
Second, his style of fighting a war is the style of how terrorists fight a war.
Third, while he is concerned as a terrorist and a separatist by many Iranians, he might be concerned as a folk hero for many poor, oppressed Baluchis.
Fourth, as long as IR is in place, as long as it does not permit peaceful social and political activity, which could result in a more tolerable Iran in which not only Baluchis but also all other sections on the Iranians could participate in, there will be not only one but thousands of people like Rigi.
This could actually get worst as the small freedoms that were given under Khatami are being abolished. One reason why the Reformist movement of Iran came to existence was that, because there was brain left in some IR members, they thought of the country would not reform, it will head to civil war.
and the three million people who protested against AN in June were imported from the star war galaxy ?
The partizans in the balkans who fought the nazis were a terrorist organization from the occupier (invader) point of view and freedom fighters from the serbian point of view.
PLO are terrorists from an Israeli point of view and freedom fighters from Arab point view.
Red brigade, Baader-Meinhof were terrorist from the NATO point of view and were freedom fighters from the socialist/communist point of view.
Throughout all activities of above groups innocent civilians were sacrificed or killed or what have you.
I suspect many millions of those iranians you mention here are pro IR.
ok. Are you stating obvious painful facts that we are all aware of or there is a point to the above...?
no. the only reason any sort of movement came out the children of the revolution was due to oppression and corruption of the regime in the post Iran-Iraq years. Do not concern yourself with names please concentrate on actions.
reform, moje sabz, nationalism all branches of the same tree.
The partizans in the balkans who fought the nazis were a terrorist organization from the occupier (invader) point of view and freedom fighters from the serbian point of view.
PLO are terrorists from an Israeli point of view and freedom fighters from Arab point view.
Red brigade, Baader-Meinhof were terrorist from the NATO point of view and were freedom fighters from the socialist/communist point of view.
Throughout all activities of above groups innocent civilians were sacrificed or killed or what have you.
I suspect many millions of those iranians you mention here are pro IR.
ok. Are you stating obvious painful facts that we are all aware of or there is a point to the above...?
no. the only reason any sort of movement came out the children of the revolution was due to oppression and corruption of the regime in the post Iran-Iraq years. Do not concern yourself with names please concentrate on actions.
reform, moje sabz, nationalism all branches of the same tree.