یعنی هیچ وقت فکر نمیکردم که بشری به شوتی تو در دنیا وجود داشته باشه.
بله دلقک جان، من ازچنین پیشرفت های تو خالی در جمهوری زور و دروغ و فساد بدم میاد. اینکه توجیه نداره. هر انسانی که واقعن انسان باشه و وجدان داشته باشه مثل من حالش از این پیشرفت های کاذب گرفته میشه.
فقط یک بیسواد احمق میتونه اسم این کار هارو بزاره پیشرفت
یعنی اگر باید دوباره بهت توضیح بدم که چرا اینطوریه ، خیلی عقب افتاده هستی و تفکره جهان سومی دا ری. .
توصیه میکنم خودت رو بیشتر از اینا ضایه نکنی
Shah's Air Force saved akhunsnds ass. That was over a year after Americans had departed and the very same akhunds had devastated the force. You act as if akhunds saved the military. Akhunds weakened the military. Time will tell what they are up to now. Their last outing in the with their vaunted of Fajr-5 was an embarrassment. They all got blown out of the sky.
این کارهای رژیم فقط و فقط خیانت به ایرانه. همین و بس. دارند زور میزنند منافع خودشون رو در قدرت حفاظت کنند تا دکونشون رو باز نگهدارندو بچاپند و بخورند. هیچ ربطی به پیشرفت ایران نداره
خیلی به فکر ایران هستند، کمتر به ملت ظلم کنند. .
یعنی هر آدم عقب افتادیی بعد از ٣٢ سال اینرو فهمیده بودولی بعضی ها خیلی خر تر از این حرفان
خیلی به فکر ایران هستند، کمتر به ملت ظلم کنند. .
یعنی هر آدم عقب افتادیی بعد از ٣٢ سال اینرو فهمیده بودولی بعضی ها خیلی خر تر از این حرفان
پیشرفت های کاذب؟
از ناو هواپیما بر امریکا فیلم گرفتن بدون اینکه متوجه بشوند از نظر شما پیشرفت کاذب است
رده اول در پژوهش های علمی را بدست اوردن از نظر شما پیشرفت کاذب است
پیشرفته ترین هواپیمای امریکایی را نشاندن از نظر شما پیشرفت کاذب است ؟
فرستادن ماهواره به فضا از نظر شما پیشرفت کاذب است ؟
پیشرفت در صنایع دارو سازی پیشرفت کاذب است
پیشرفت در نانو تکنولوژی از نظر شما پیشرفت کماذب است
و دها نمونه دیگر که به کوری چشم دشمنان ایران روز به روز پیشرفت میکند
اها پس از نظر شما افتابه و توپ پلاستیکی و واجبی بندی و صندلی ارج پیشرفت حقیقی است
تو بگو پیشرفت کاذب امریکا و اسرائیل می دانند ایران تا کجا پیشرفت کرده که یک هواپیما رده پنجمی خود را به حزب الله می دهد و این هواپیما همه نقاط اسرائیل را نقشه برداری میکند و اسرائیل انرا بعد از دها پرواز کشف میکند
تو بگو پیشرفت کاذب
:lonley:
از ناو هواپیما بر امریکا فیلم گرفتن بدون اینکه متوجه بشوند از نظر شما پیشرفت کاذب است
رده اول در پژوهش های علمی را بدست اوردن از نظر شما پیشرفت کاذب است
پیشرفته ترین هواپیمای امریکایی را نشاندن از نظر شما پیشرفت کاذب است ؟
فرستادن ماهواره به فضا از نظر شما پیشرفت کاذب است ؟
پیشرفت در صنایع دارو سازی پیشرفت کاذب است
پیشرفت در نانو تکنولوژی از نظر شما پیشرفت کماذب است
و دها نمونه دیگر که به کوری چشم دشمنان ایران روز به روز پیشرفت میکند
اها پس از نظر شما افتابه و توپ پلاستیکی و واجبی بندی و صندلی ارج پیشرفت حقیقی است
تو بگو پیشرفت کاذب امریکا و اسرائیل می دانند ایران تا کجا پیشرفت کرده که یک هواپیما رده پنجمی خود را به حزب الله می دهد و این هواپیما همه نقاط اسرائیل را نقشه برداری میکند و اسرائیل انرا بعد از دها پرواز کشف میکند
تو بگو پیشرفت کاذب
:lonley:
خیر جناب
اخوند و نمیانم اسلحه امریکایی نوبد که باعث شد ایرانیان دهن دشمن را به خاک بمالند
اسلحه های امریکایی با فتن کارشناسان امریکایی و نبود لوازم یدکی تاثیر چندانی نداشت
این صدها هزار جوانی بودند که از جان خود گذشتند و جنگیدند
فجر پنج رو هم اسرائیلی ها می دونند که شلیک تنها سه تای از انها دوتا روی تل اویل و یکی قدس باعث شد اسرائیل برای هشت روز فلج شود
ایران هزاران موشک پیشرفته دارد که فجر 5 در بین انها چیزی نیست
فجر 5 از صنایع ده سال پیش موشکی ایران است
راستی یادت نرود که هواپیماهایی که حزب الله برای تجسس به اسرائیل می فرستند ساخت ایران هستند
بله جانم
اخوند و نمیانم اسلحه امریکایی نوبد که باعث شد ایرانیان دهن دشمن را به خاک بمالند
اسلحه های امریکایی با فتن کارشناسان امریکایی و نبود لوازم یدکی تاثیر چندانی نداشت
این صدها هزار جوانی بودند که از جان خود گذشتند و جنگیدند
فجر پنج رو هم اسرائیلی ها می دونند که شلیک تنها سه تای از انها دوتا روی تل اویل و یکی قدس باعث شد اسرائیل برای هشت روز فلج شود
ایران هزاران موشک پیشرفته دارد که فجر 5 در بین انها چیزی نیست
فجر 5 از صنایع ده سال پیش موشکی ایران است
راستی یادت نرود که هواپیماهایی که حزب الله برای تجسس به اسرائیل می فرستند ساخت ایران هستند
بله جانم
Fajr-10 and 15 and 20 will have the same fate as Fajr-5. I am sure Iran begged Hamas to stop embarrassing them as their rockets were being blown away time after time. Missile defense is entering a maturity to make missile attacks obsolete. It is a lot easier to pick off few missiles shot from Iran than to intercept ones two miles away.
Kheili shoote taraf Behrooz jaan. Even if you explain it a million times, he won't get it. He thinks "pishraft" is dedicating the nation's entire resources to one field for 30 years and at the end being able to copy something from 30 or 60 years ago! To these people...
* Dedicating so much resources to produce the type of submarine that Columbian drug dealers are making in the jungle is pishraft!
* Taking pictures of the US navy in the Gulf without them knowing it is pishraft. Hell, you can take a picture with your Canon rebel from a passenger aircraft flying to Dubai and they won't know it! But that's pishraft!
* Matching Venezuela in putting small satellites into space is Pishraft! Otherwise, we were 20 years behind the tiny nation of Israel that we're now going to defeat with our technological prowess!
They set the bar soooooooo low and compare Iran to the desert dwellers of 1400 years ago, their heroes, and call anything above and beyond riding horses and wielding swords pishraft! Other than that, almost everything in Iran is a copy of technology from some other country. Back in school when we copied our work from others, it was called plagiarism, to Papa Smurf here, it's called Pishraft!
And the funniest thing in all of this is that they bring up Shah's era and compare what's happening in the world today, to 35 years ago, as if Iran would have stayed frozen for 3 decades!!! Not once, have I seen a comparison of how much certain countries have advanced in the last 35 years and how much we have advanced compared to those countries. The comparison is to 1400 years ago and if you're lucky and end up with a real progressive thinker
like Timsar it's only to 35 years ago!!!
And you notice, they had pretty much disappeared while the real threat of an attack was there, but as soon as that threat went away, they're talking their big s--- again! As I've said before, these ..... need to be humbled once and for all, so they know they're full of S... and hot air. And since they're so confrontational, it's not really a question of if, but a question of when. Then we'll know for sure if all this chest -slapping is about real progress or Pishrafte Kazzeb. Like I said, only time will tell...
* Dedicating so much resources to produce the type of submarine that Columbian drug dealers are making in the jungle is pishraft!
* Taking pictures of the US navy in the Gulf without them knowing it is pishraft. Hell, you can take a picture with your Canon rebel from a passenger aircraft flying to Dubai and they won't know it! But that's pishraft!
* Matching Venezuela in putting small satellites into space is Pishraft! Otherwise, we were 20 years behind the tiny nation of Israel that we're now going to defeat with our technological prowess!
They set the bar soooooooo low and compare Iran to the desert dwellers of 1400 years ago, their heroes, and call anything above and beyond riding horses and wielding swords pishraft! Other than that, almost everything in Iran is a copy of technology from some other country. Back in school when we copied our work from others, it was called plagiarism, to Papa Smurf here, it's called Pishraft!
And the funniest thing in all of this is that they bring up Shah's era and compare what's happening in the world today, to 35 years ago, as if Iran would have stayed frozen for 3 decades!!! Not once, have I seen a comparison of how much certain countries have advanced in the last 35 years and how much we have advanced compared to those countries. The comparison is to 1400 years ago and if you're lucky and end up with a real progressive thinker
like Timsar it's only to 35 years ago!!!And you notice, they had pretty much disappeared while the real threat of an attack was there, but as soon as that threat went away, they're talking their big s--- again! As I've said before, these ..... need to be humbled once and for all, so they know they're full of S... and hot air. And since they're so confrontational, it's not really a question of if, but a question of when. Then we'll know for sure if all this chest -slapping is about real progress or Pishrafte Kazzeb. Like I said, only time will tell...
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جناب
این پستت نشون میده که تو محشری و از همه سری
قراضه های ایران ایر؟
فکر میکنی چند کشور می تونند هواپیماهایی رو که بوئینگ ساخته بسازند ؟ نه ساختن پیش کش لوازم یدکیش رو بسازند ؟
لوازم یدکی هم پیش کش
تعمیر کنند؟
که ایران دومی باشه؟
اره میدونم تو چی می خواهی بگی ولی تو می خواهی جریان ارامش و ایمنی رو با پیشرفت های ایران قاطی کنی و از این راه پیشرفت های ایران رو بکوبی
این پستت نشون میده که تو محشری و از همه سری
قراضه های ایران ایر؟
فکر میکنی چند کشور می تونند هواپیماهایی رو که بوئینگ ساخته بسازند ؟ نه ساختن پیش کش لوازم یدکیش رو بسازند ؟
لوازم یدکی هم پیش کش
تعمیر کنند؟
که ایران دومی باشه؟
اره میدونم تو چی می خواهی بگی ولی تو می خواهی جریان ارامش و ایمنی رو با پیشرفت های ایران قاطی کنی و از این راه پیشرفت های ایران رو بکوبی
Kheili shoote taraf Behrooz jaan. Even if you explain it a million times, he won't get it. He thinks "pishraft" is dedicating the nation's entire resources to one field for 30 years and at the end being able to copy something from 30 or 60 years ago! To these people...
* Dedicating so much resources to produce the type of submarine that Columbian drug dealers are making in the jungle is pishraft!
* Taking pictures of the US navy in the Gulf without them knowing it is pishraft. Hell, you can take a picture with your Canon rebel from a passenger aircraft flying to Dubai and they won't know it! But that's pishraft!
* Matching Venezuela in putting small satellites into space is Pishraft! Otherwise, we were 20 years behind the tiny nation of Israel that we're now going to defeat with our technological prowess!
They set the bar soooooooo low and compare Iran to the desert dwellers of 1400 years ago, their heroes, and call anything above and beyond riding horses and wielding swords pishraft! Other than that, almost everything in Iran is a copy of technology from some other country. Back in school when we copied our work from others, it was called plagiarism, to Papa Smurf here, it's called Pishraft!
And the funniest thing in all of this is that they bring up Shah's era and compare what's happening in the world today, to 35 years ago, as if Iran would have stayed frozen for 3 decades!!! Not once, have I seen a comparison of how much certain countries have advanced in the last 35 years and how much we have advanced compared to those countries. The comparison is to 1400 years ago and if you're lucky and end up with a real progressive thinker like Timsar it's only to 35 years ago!!!
And you notice, they had pretty much disappeared while the real threat of an attack was there, but as soon as that threat went away, they're talking their big s--- again! As I've said before, these ..... need to be humbled once and for all, so they know they're full of S... and hot air. And since they're so confrontational, it's not really a question of if, but a question of when. Then we'll know for sure if all this chest -slapping is about real progress or Pishrafte Kazzeb. Like I said, only time will tell...
* Dedicating so much resources to produce the type of submarine that Columbian drug dealers are making in the jungle is pishraft!
* Taking pictures of the US navy in the Gulf without them knowing it is pishraft. Hell, you can take a picture with your Canon rebel from a passenger aircraft flying to Dubai and they won't know it! But that's pishraft!
* Matching Venezuela in putting small satellites into space is Pishraft! Otherwise, we were 20 years behind the tiny nation of Israel that we're now going to defeat with our technological prowess!
They set the bar soooooooo low and compare Iran to the desert dwellers of 1400 years ago, their heroes, and call anything above and beyond riding horses and wielding swords pishraft! Other than that, almost everything in Iran is a copy of technology from some other country. Back in school when we copied our work from others, it was called plagiarism, to Papa Smurf here, it's called Pishraft!
And the funniest thing in all of this is that they bring up Shah's era and compare what's happening in the world today, to 35 years ago, as if Iran would have stayed frozen for 3 decades!!! Not once, have I seen a comparison of how much certain countries have advanced in the last 35 years and how much we have advanced compared to those countries. The comparison is to 1400 years ago and if you're lucky and end up with a real progressive thinker
like Timsar it's only to 35 years ago!!!And you notice, they had pretty much disappeared while the real threat of an attack was there, but as soon as that threat went away, they're talking their big s--- again! As I've said before, these ..... need to be humbled once and for all, so they know they're full of S... and hot air. And since they're so confrontational, it's not really a question of if, but a question of when. Then we'll know for sure if all this chest -slapping is about real progress or Pishrafte Kazzeb. Like I said, only time will tell...
این شماها هستید که فکر میکنید ملت شوت هستند که ندانند درد شما از کجاست
و اشک تمساح ریختنتان به چه دلیل است و سنگ زلزله زدگان و سیل زدگان را چرا جایی به سینه می زنید و در جای دیگر دوستانتان ارزوی حمله امریکا به ایران را در سر می پرورانند
خیر جناب این شما هستید که فکر میکنید ملت شوت هستند و نمی دانند تا چه اندازه از پیشرفت های ایران دق کرده اید
پیشرفت کاذب ؟
واقعا مضحک هستی جانم
برو به امریکاییها بگو ایران پیشرفت کاذب کرده
برو به اونهایی که پهبادشان به گاه رفت بگو اینها پیشرفت های کاذب است
برو به اسرائیلی ها بگو این پهباد ایرانی پیشرفت کاذب است
برو به انستیتوهای علمی بگو که پژوهش های ایران کاذب است
برو به کشورهای رده اول جهان بگو که پیشرفت نانو تکنولوژی در ایران پیشرفتی کاذب است
برو به ناسا بگو فرستادن ماهواره توسط ایران پیشرفتی کاذب است
اره پیشرفته کاذب است که ما از افتابه پلاستیکی به ماهواره سازی رسیده ایم و از بسته بندی واجبی به ساختن پیشرفته ترین پهپادهای جهان
و از صندلی ارج به زیر دریایی و از تیرکمان سیمی به موشک با برد سه هزار کیلومتر
بله بابا اینها چی چی است
خودشان را گول می زنند
انزمان ملت می رفتند اول با توپ پلاستیکی بازی میکردند بعد که خوب عرق میکردند می رفتند با افتابه تو مستراح خودشان را می شستند ومی امدند بیرون
روی صندلی ارج می نشستند و تخمه مغز میکردند اخر شب هم واجبی می کشیند
و خدایا به امید تو
و خدا گذاشته بود امریکا برای ما از صبح تا شب مثل خر کار میکردند و ما می خوردیم و می خوابیدیم
الان این پیشرفت های کاذب باعث شده حتی وقت نوره کشیدن هم نداشته باشیم
بله جانم
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Like I've said before the problem with some of the critics on this board is that their political prejudice makes them incapable of making any objective judgement. The other part of their problem is that they just like to say shit for the sake of having said something without really having any in-depth knowledge of issues or events. Take this issue of the submarine for example.
There are some people who openly admit that they will not be happy and certainly will not endorse or support any type of progress made in Iran while IR is its form of government. Right there it becomes evident that it is useless even attempting to have any meaningful conversation with these people and would be completely delusional to think one can have any informative dialogue with them.
Then there are those who may have a little more of an open mind but are still quite ignorant about the state of affairs in the real world. Taking the example of the submarine again, some of these critics point out to the shortcomings of other parts of the country and wonder what is the benefit of the government spending money on submarines for example. These people don't realize that in the real world governments have various branches each with their own limited budget and managers. They seem to think that all of the government's resources have been allocated to the military and making these submarines. That is not true. The defense industry in Iran is a sub-group of the armed forces with a very limited budget (and compared to that of many countries really with almost negligible budget) and it is with those resources that the engineers and workers have been able to build this submarine for example. If there are shortcomings in the civil industries (which there certainly are) one has to look at their managements and their problems. But trying to belittle the achievements of one entity because of the problems of another irrelevant entity is just either extremely ignorant, biased, misguided, or confused.
Then there are people who expect the government to fix every problem in the country. You can pretty much bet that these people are the type of people who take little responsibility for their actions even in their own personal daily lives. It is unfortunately the byproduct of centuries of a culture of "Agha bala-sar" where the King, Khan, "arbaab", and more recent times the foreign powers have told the people that they are not worthy, smart enough, or qualified to take on any task that would affect anyone beyond their own immediate families. IR is also partly to be blamed for this attitude but compared to prior governments in Iran their attitude is infinitely more progressive in encouraging self-belief and reliance in the general population although compared to countries like US they are still infinitely behind. But nevertheless I think they are making progress. In the US for example, if there is a problem with the civil aviation industry or with the automobile industry or almost any industry affecting the daily lives of people the ordinary folks blame private companies and industries for the problems and no body expects the government to do anything about it. In Iran however, from "noon sangak" to international flights and any problem in between is blamed on the government and everything is expected to be fixed by the money from oil. No body in Iran wants to step in and invest their own money to start a company to provide services that other people might want (without expecting some sort of subsidies from the government).
Lastly, there are people who have little or no knowledge of the technical issues and yet try to chime in with their worthless 2 cents comments. For example, some comparing this particular submarine to that of the submarines used by the Columbian drug dealers. I mean really how ignorant and clueless does one have to be to think that the importance of a submarine is merely its size, shape, and color and not realize it is the computer technology, the sonar system, the torpedo capability along with the torpedoes themselves, their communication system, battery system, and the ability to mass produce these things that is of value and importance here. Developing every part of these and the ability to mass produce them requires knowhow, technology and industry that can be useful and transferable to the civil industries in the future. To try to belittle these engineering achievements by a third-world country like Iran with enormous domestic and international pressures and restrictions is like some red-neck ignoramus trash sitting in his trailer in the US wondering what is the use of sending a rover to Mars when the gas is so expensive that he can't afford to drive to his local Walmart.
There are some people who openly admit that they will not be happy and certainly will not endorse or support any type of progress made in Iran while IR is its form of government. Right there it becomes evident that it is useless even attempting to have any meaningful conversation with these people and would be completely delusional to think one can have any informative dialogue with them.
Then there are those who may have a little more of an open mind but are still quite ignorant about the state of affairs in the real world. Taking the example of the submarine again, some of these critics point out to the shortcomings of other parts of the country and wonder what is the benefit of the government spending money on submarines for example. These people don't realize that in the real world governments have various branches each with their own limited budget and managers. They seem to think that all of the government's resources have been allocated to the military and making these submarines. That is not true. The defense industry in Iran is a sub-group of the armed forces with a very limited budget (and compared to that of many countries really with almost negligible budget) and it is with those resources that the engineers and workers have been able to build this submarine for example. If there are shortcomings in the civil industries (which there certainly are) one has to look at their managements and their problems. But trying to belittle the achievements of one entity because of the problems of another irrelevant entity is just either extremely ignorant, biased, misguided, or confused.
Then there are people who expect the government to fix every problem in the country. You can pretty much bet that these people are the type of people who take little responsibility for their actions even in their own personal daily lives. It is unfortunately the byproduct of centuries of a culture of "Agha bala-sar" where the King, Khan, "arbaab", and more recent times the foreign powers have told the people that they are not worthy, smart enough, or qualified to take on any task that would affect anyone beyond their own immediate families. IR is also partly to be blamed for this attitude but compared to prior governments in Iran their attitude is infinitely more progressive in encouraging self-belief and reliance in the general population although compared to countries like US they are still infinitely behind. But nevertheless I think they are making progress. In the US for example, if there is a problem with the civil aviation industry or with the automobile industry or almost any industry affecting the daily lives of people the ordinary folks blame private companies and industries for the problems and no body expects the government to do anything about it. In Iran however, from "noon sangak" to international flights and any problem in between is blamed on the government and everything is expected to be fixed by the money from oil. No body in Iran wants to step in and invest their own money to start a company to provide services that other people might want (without expecting some sort of subsidies from the government).
Lastly, there are people who have little or no knowledge of the technical issues and yet try to chime in with their worthless 2 cents comments. For example, some comparing this particular submarine to that of the submarines used by the Columbian drug dealers. I mean really how ignorant and clueless does one have to be to think that the importance of a submarine is merely its size, shape, and color and not realize it is the computer technology, the sonar system, the torpedo capability along with the torpedoes themselves, their communication system, battery system, and the ability to mass produce these things that is of value and importance here. Developing every part of these and the ability to mass produce them requires knowhow, technology and industry that can be useful and transferable to the civil industries in the future. To try to belittle these engineering achievements by a third-world country like Iran with enormous domestic and international pressures and restrictions is like some red-neck ignoramus trash sitting in his trailer in the US wondering what is the use of sending a rover to Mars when the gas is so expensive that he can't afford to drive to his local Walmart.
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