i am reading mostly clueless comments about this issue in this thread.
i am busy with the world cup but when i get a chance will update my note
thread with my comments.but i had to post this here to clear the present
dynamics in the region for the uninitiated.
[h=1]Iran Hawk Lindsey Graham Says We Need to Work With Iran to Fix Iraq[/h]
Sen. Lindsey Graham shocked and confused many by imploring the United States to work with Iran to stabilize Iraq. Just last year, Graham pushed for a resolution authorizing war against Iran if it didn't give up its nuclear program.
http://news.yahoo.com/iran-hawk-lindsey-graham-says-iran-fix-iraq-164400414.html;_ylt=AwrTWf0IBJ5TdB0A6q3QtDMD
i am busy with the world cup but when i get a chance will update my note
thread with my comments.but i had to post this here to clear the present
dynamics in the region for the uninitiated.
[h=1]Iran Hawk Lindsey Graham Says We Need to Work With Iran to Fix Iraq[/h]
Sen. Lindsey Graham shocked and confused many by imploring the United States to work with Iran to stabilize Iraq. Just last year, Graham pushed for a resolution authorizing war against Iran if it didn't give up its nuclear program.
http://news.yahoo.com/iran-hawk-lindsey-graham-says-iran-fix-iraq-164400414.html;_ylt=AwrTWf0IBJ5TdB0A6q3QtDMD
Its still the same plan, the same scneario...the same plan that started back in the 70s in order to strenghten religious islamic elements against sane and secular elements. Nothings changed, we just lost sight of the happenings because syria news lost on priority in the media but the crimes still keep commited over there. Dont fool yourself. You can blame Saudis, Qataris, pakis all day but they are not able to organize such a big thing from Tunisia to Iraq. The US started the whole thing by handing over Libya to Al Qaida, the US supported the same Al Qaida terrorists in Syria by providing huge political campaigns in favour of those terrorists, calling them freedom fighters, giving them a name and parliament and and an alibi political face. US allies like Turkey have trained terrorists and armed them with US weapons and all that with US green light. US itself sent arms and trainers but as soon as it got revealed that those arms were going to Jabahat Al Nusra, they pulled out but not effectively but only out of promotion reasons. They couldnt afford to be associated with likes of Jabahat Al Nusra direclty so they just started to get the whole thing go through their allies instead of getting themselves involved. They demonized Assad and were behind all these things and just pulled out quitely after the job was basically done: To lebanonize Syria. To make it a constant battle ground and thus to destroy it deeply for years to come. These Terrorists in Iraq are not sent from God, they are not growing from the grounds, they are not coming from the sky. These guys are trained, armed, they need logistics and intelligence to be able to overrun such an important City like Mosul within hours. How could Iraq become so weak? How could Iraq become so badbakht that a few thousend ISIL people can takeover half the country within two days? Dont fool yourself the US is the mastermind behind this shit. Dont be so naive, the US doesnt have to openly admit their support for terrorists for us to finally recognize the obvious. They worked towards the shiite sunnit war from day one. Under their administration and infront of their eyes, shiites and sunits bombed their mosques and they did nothing to solve anything. Then, as they were sure this scenario of shite sunit war was inevitable, they pulled out of iraq letting behind a complete mess, a destroyed and politically dead country, a not working state, a disabled state. They are achieving their goals one after another one. From day one, from the days in Afghanistan back in the 70s, from the day they decided to get rid of Shah, from the day they invaded Iraq for no valid reason, from the day they bombed Yugoslavia and helped Albanian and other moslem terrorists to fight the Yugoslav army, from the day they bombed Libya just in order to hand the country over to islamist elements. The goal is still the same: Creating disintegration and getting that shiite sunit war started. The US knows, that thing is kicked off, they could even come and bomb a few positions of those terrorists but they exactly know, this thing is not gonna stop. This sunni salafi movement is not gonna stop because of a few US bombs. It probably will even make it worse.
Make no mistake, the US has no dog in this shiite sunit fight. They are not backing sunnis against shias or the other way around. They also dont seek to see one side win against the other as it wouldnt be as destructive as to get them involved in a much bigger thing that could last for decades. They clearly discoverd the lebanonization tactic.They are just making sure the muslim world gets into self destrction mode. They are backing extremist moslems against moderates and secular moslems. Thats it. The IR will be one of the winners. The IR would be the loser if around Iran were full of secular flourishing states. IR in that case, would be revealed as the only savage islamic bullshit government. Right now though they are making these shiites savages look like saviours of humanity in our region. They are helping both sides. They are helping the sunni animals against the roots of arab secularism and progressivism and they are helping IR by getting the iranian people behind them. The poor, saadeh loh iranians would back the IR against these animals out of pure fear and desperation. All those beheadings and martial anti shiite and anti iranian speeches will make Iranian people get behind the IR, that will make the people lose sight of what actually is their Nr. one enemy which is primarily and clearly the IR. This whole thing is a huge favour they are doing to IR.
Be sure the whole thing has been fully planned from day one. The americans new what they were doing as they left iraq. They new iraqis wouldnt be able to help themselves against the US-Saudi Proxy terrorists. They are just putting yet another one of the most important countries in the region under the bus. They are still dreaming of a shiite-sunni Grand War and it is becoming closer and closer. A whole region full of blood, war, death, destruction completely powerless, unconscious and backward point that all the countries involved will be dragged into deep shit, the elite and thinkers would be gone, beheaded and exiled, no integration, no room and foundation for free thinking...they will be begging the west and primarily the US to come and take the resources and give them just the basic things to survive or to build up.
Make no mistake, the US has no dog in this shiite sunit fight. They are not backing sunnis against shias or the other way around. They also dont seek to see one side win against the other as it wouldnt be as destructive as to get them involved in a much bigger thing that could last for decades. They clearly discoverd the lebanonization tactic.They are just making sure the muslim world gets into self destrction mode. They are backing extremist moslems against moderates and secular moslems. Thats it. The IR will be one of the winners. The IR would be the loser if around Iran were full of secular flourishing states. IR in that case, would be revealed as the only savage islamic bullshit government. Right now though they are making these shiites savages look like saviours of humanity in our region. They are helping both sides. They are helping the sunni animals against the roots of arab secularism and progressivism and they are helping IR by getting the iranian people behind them. The poor, saadeh loh iranians would back the IR against these animals out of pure fear and desperation. All those beheadings and martial anti shiite and anti iranian speeches will make Iranian people get behind the IR, that will make the people lose sight of what actually is their Nr. one enemy which is primarily and clearly the IR. This whole thing is a huge favour they are doing to IR.
Be sure the whole thing has been fully planned from day one. The americans new what they were doing as they left iraq. They new iraqis wouldnt be able to help themselves against the US-Saudi Proxy terrorists. They are just putting yet another one of the most important countries in the region under the bus. They are still dreaming of a shiite-sunni Grand War and it is becoming closer and closer. A whole region full of blood, war, death, destruction completely powerless, unconscious and backward point that all the countries involved will be dragged into deep shit, the elite and thinkers would be gone, beheaded and exiled, no integration, no room and foundation for free thinking...they will be begging the west and primarily the US to come and take the resources and give them just the basic things to survive or to build up.
No China - I don't think this whole thing has been planned from Day1. I believe the plan was takover of Syria which failed......what we are witnessing is caos created by Saudis, .........with the blessing of a weak and confused Obama,......and it may even have IR blessings or forced endorcement!!! This is the Saudis trying to salvage whatever they can in the next couple of years while they still have the White House. It will be interesting to see what Russia says/does and to see what happens in the next few weeks at the Iraqi Oil fields. One way or another - rest assured, this is not a planned move by Uncle Sam......in fact for the last 6 years, Uncle Sam has just been a clueless reactive moron.
Not long ago this photo stunned media and shook the world :
But now even these ones cannot move even us ordinary people, what happened to us , we are numb , tkhmaamoon o kei keshidan , haalam az har chi babi bashar-e be ham mikhoreh , ridam too har chi syaasat o deen o media-ye khaar maadar gaaeideh haa:
But now even these ones cannot move even us ordinary people, what happened to us , we are numb , tkhmaamoon o kei keshidan , haalam az har chi babi bashar-e be ham mikhoreh , ridam too har chi syaasat o deen o media-ye khaar maadar gaaeideh haa:
this is a power struggle. people try to put religious spin to it.
but the reality is Iran wants influence in the region with people who are in power.
Saudis want the same.
Turks want the same.
Americans want to contain everybody using somebody else.
the Russian want Americans not to be able to achieve all their objectives but not have terrorists grow to strong.
this is chess game between power centers.
A Crisis is never the worst thing as long it can be contained not get out of control.
Nouri al Maleki basically has bought himself another 4 years of control in Baghdad.
but the reality is Iran wants influence in the region with people who are in power.
Saudis want the same.
Turks want the same.
Americans want to contain everybody using somebody else.
the Russian want Americans not to be able to achieve all their objectives but not have terrorists grow to strong.
this is chess game between power centers.
A Crisis is never the worst thing as long it can be contained not get out of control.
Nouri al Maleki basically has bought himself another 4 years of control in Baghdad.
Revealed: How Obama SET FREE the merciless terrorist warlord now leading the ISIS horde blazing a trail of destruction through Iraq
WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT
The U.S. once had Islamic State of Iraq and al-Shams (ISIS) leader Abu Bakr al Baghdadi in custody at a detention facility in Iraq, it was revealed Friday
Al Baghdadi was among the prisoners released in 2009 from the U.S.'s now-closed Camp Bucca near Umm Qasr in Iraq
It is unclear why the U.S. let the merciless al Qaeda leader slip away
Al Baghadadi and his troops took the Iraqi cities of Fallujah and Ramadi earlier this year and conquered Tikrit and Mosul within the last several days
They are now bearing down on Baghdad, burning down everything that stands in their way and carrying out executions on Iraqi civilians, soldiers and police officers
ISIS posted an image today of an officer's decapitated head tweeted with sickening message: 'This is our ball. It's made of skin #WorldCup'
By FRANCESCA CHAMBERS
PUBLISHED: 15:55 GMT, 13 June 2014 | UPDATED: 19:20 GMT, 13 June 2014
How Obama SET FREE the merciless terrorist warlord now leading the ISIS horde blazing a trail of destruction through Iraq
WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT
The U.S. once had Islamic State of Iraq and al-Shams (ISIS) leader Abu Bakr al Baghdadi in custody at a detention facility in Iraq, it was revealed Friday
Al Baghdadi was among the prisoners released in 2009 from the U.S.'s now-closed Camp Bucca near Umm Qasr in Iraq
It is unclear why the U.S. let the merciless al Qaeda leader slip away
Al Baghadadi and his troops took the Iraqi cities of Fallujah and Ramadi earlier this year and conquered Tikrit and Mosul within the last several days
They are now bearing down on Baghdad, burning down everything that stands in their way and carrying out executions on Iraqi civilians, soldiers and police officers
ISIS posted an image today of an officer's decapitated head tweeted with sickening message: 'This is our ball. It's made of skin #WorldCup'
By FRANCESCA CHAMBERS
PUBLISHED: 15:55 GMT, 13 June 2014 | UPDATED: 19:20 GMT, 13 June 2014
How Obama SET FREE the merciless terrorist warlord now leading the ISIS horde blazing a trail of destruction through Iraq
vaghan ke agar khodayee vojood dashte ke een adam haro afradieh vaghan ke RIDEH, RIDEH !!!
human beings should not even come into contact with this excrements.
High altitude carpet bombing and razing the place to the ground is the only short term solution. They should bomb these areas so that everything turns into powder.
human beings should not even come into contact with this excrements.
High altitude carpet bombing and razing the place to the ground is the only short term solution. They should bomb these areas so that everything turns into powder.
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yes religion has nothing to do with this.
Islam is a religion of peace. One read of ghoraan will illuminate this fact.
I love how your muslims act exactly like your akhounds. You must really think people who read your posts just fell onto earth from another planet...
where are all the russians, turks, americans in this power struggle ?
oh i get it all these sub humans are hindus, buddhists and christians that are dressed up as muslims to give islam a bad name. there is no doubt that the super powers are instigating these but as long as there are MUSLIM OLAAGHS whatever superpower gets OLGAAGH SAVAARI.
and another so and so poorly attempts the pacification of atrocities by callling it a power struggle and a 'philosopher' LOL clicks a 'like'. My friend be ghol e tehrooni haa KHAR KHODETI ...
Islam is a religion of peace. One read of ghoraan will illuminate this fact.
I love how your muslims act exactly like your akhounds. You must really think people who read your posts just fell onto earth from another planet...
where are all the russians, turks, americans in this power struggle ?
oh i get it all these sub humans are hindus, buddhists and christians that are dressed up as muslims to give islam a bad name. there is no doubt that the super powers are instigating these but as long as there are MUSLIM OLAAGHS whatever superpower gets OLGAAGH SAVAARI.
and another so and so poorly attempts the pacification of atrocities by callling it a power struggle and a 'philosopher' LOL clicks a 'like'. My friend be ghol e tehrooni haa KHAR KHODETI ...
sorry really i couldn't contain myself to reply twice to your post:
here is the reply:
please please i implore you ke KOS O SHER NAGI.
go and read your ghoraan ta befahmi ke they are doing exactly what ghoran is telling them to do as you said under the umbrella of outside powers. That part i agree with.
here is the reply:
please please i implore you ke KOS O SHER NAGI.
go and read your ghoraan ta befahmi ke they are doing exactly what ghoran is telling them to do as you said under the umbrella of outside powers. That part i agree with.
بهش میگی : آقا ! فلان آخوند گفته اسلام اینجوریه....
بهت جواب میده : گور بابای آخوندا....اینا اسلام رو خراب کردن.....فقط برو قرآن رو بخون
بهش میگی : من با فلان آیه مشکل دارم...
بهت میگه : نه آقا برو تفسیرش رو بخون !
بهش میگی : مگه تفسیرها رو آخوندا ننوشتن ؟
بهت میگه : تو واقعا گمراه شدی...خدا هدایتت کنه
بهت جواب میده : گور بابای آخوندا....اینا اسلام رو خراب کردن.....فقط برو قرآن رو بخون
بهش میگی : من با فلان آیه مشکل دارم...
بهت میگه : نه آقا برو تفسیرش رو بخون !
بهش میگی : مگه تفسیرها رو آخوندا ننوشتن ؟
بهت میگه : تو واقعا گمراه شدی...خدا هدایتت کنه