Moeen on stolen election results::Danger of facism is serious

[biAzar]

اعلاميه دكتر معين
مردم ايران!
خطر فاشيسم را جدی بگيريد
آنها كه بهانه به دشمنان واقعی دمكراسی در ايران و جهان دادند
خود بايد پاسخگو باشند
من هشدار می‌دهم:
نتايج اين دخالت سازمان يافته نظامی و نظارتی فراتر از تضييع
حق كسانی كه به من و امثال من رأی داده اند خواهد بود.
​

اكنون كه انتخابات دور نهم رياست جمهوری به انجام رسيده است ، وظيفة خود می‌دانم از حضور گستردة همة هم ميهنان ارجمند و ورود فعال بخش عمده‌ای از نخبگان كشور به روند مشاركت در انتخابات و دفاع از دموكراسی و حقوق اساسی ملت ، صميمانه قدردانی می‌كنم .
در طول ماهها و هفته‌ها و روزهای اخير ، همة آنان كه چشم به فرصت پيشرفت و توسعة ايران و دل در گرو آرمانهای انقلاب اسلامی دارند ، برای رفع تهديدهای ملی و بين المللی تلاش فراوان كردند تا راه برگزاری انتخاباتی آزاد ، عادلانه و سالم گشوده شود . من نيز در حد توان خود كوشيدم در كنار احزاب و گروههای سياسی و مدنی همفكر و آحاد شهروندان عزيز به ويژه جوانان برومند ايران زمين اين راه را بپيمايم . ترديد ندارم كه جامعة ما برای بازسازی اعتماد ملی و تجديد اميد اجتماعی تجربه‌های جديدی در اعتماد به افكار عمومی و پرهيز از داد و ستدهای سياسی ، با ايستادگی در برابر اوامر و دخالت‌های غير قانونی و با دفاع از حقوق شهروندان و گروههای محذوف جامعه آموخت . آنچه جامعه در روند انتخابات به آن دست يافت و آنچه از آن در نهايت محروم ماند ، پديده‌ای بسيار مهم است كه چون گذشته بايد در پرتو خرد جمعی و كار جمعی مورد ارزيابی و نقد قرار گيرد و سرماية اجتماعی كه در اين روند بدست آمده است ، محركة اقدامات آينده شود .

تشكيل جبهه دموكراسی و حقوق بشر در جهت توانمندسازی شهروندان و دفاع از حقوق فعالان سياسی ، احزاب و گروهها و نهادهای مدنی و تسريع فرايند دموكراسی و تقويت وحدت و امنيت ملی بخشی از اين سرمايه اجتماعی است ، چنانكه جذب و سازماندهی نيروهای جوان و فرهيخته‌ای كه در سراسر كشور‌بی‌هيچ ادعا وچشمداشتی با كمترين امكانات پا به عرصه انتخابات نهادند ، بخش ديگری از ضرورتهای پيش روست . من به اين مسايل به تدريج و در قالب همان ساز و كارهای جمعی كه به آن پايبند بوده ام ، خواهم پرداخت ، اما آنچه امروز به آن می‌پردازم هشدار و ضرورت ديگری است .

ملت آگاه ايران !

اكنون نتايج انتخابات رياست جمهوری اعلام شده است . به رغم هشدارها و اعلام خطرهايی كه از سوی رياست محترم جمهوری و وزارت محترم كشور و نيز احزاب و گروههای سياسی داده شد ، جهت گيری خاص و سازمان يافته‌ای سلامت اين انتخابات را هدف قرار داد . در روزهای پايانی انتخابات به ناگاه اراده‌ای قاهر برای پيروزی يك كانديدای خاص و حذف كانديداهای ديگر به ميدان آمد و باب سازماندهی برخی نهادهای نظامی و حمايت دستگاه نظارتی انتخابات را گشود تا حقوق مسلم نامزدهای ديگر را در انتخابات مورد هدف قرار دهد . امروز هركس می‌تواند به روشنی اثر اين دخالت سازماندهی شده را در نتيجة انتخابات ببيند .

من اعلام می‌كنم آنچه به وقوع پيوست ، اقدامی غيرقانونی برای محروم كردن يك كانديدا از حق خود و بر كشيدن كانديدايی ديگر بود.

من اعلام می‌كنم با اين اقدام زنگ خطر برای دموكراسی نوپای ما به صدا درآمده است.
هوشيار باشيم كه اين قبيل تلاشهای پيچيده و خزنده نهايتاً در اين كشور سر از نظامی گری ، اقتدار گرايی و خفقان سياسی اجتماعی در خواهد آورد . اين روند تهديدی برای جامعة مدنی و انسداد راه اصلاحات است. مردم بزرگوار ايران !

خطر فاشيسم و از ميان رفتن نقش مردم و خطر حذف جمهوريت را با هر نام و سازمان ديگر جدی بگيريم .

من هشدار می‌دهم كه اقدام‌هايی از اين دست نه تنها ساخت انتخابات آزاد و عادلانه بلكه سلامت آن را از اين پس زير سؤال برده است . باور كنيم اين انحراف ساختاری به مراتب زيان بار تر از خطر تخلف ، تقلب و خدشه درانتخابات است.

من هشدار می‌دهم كه اين دخالت سازمان يافته نظامی و نظارتی تبعاتی دارد فراتر از تضييع حق كسانی كه به من و امثال من رأی داده اند. اعلام می‌كنم اين تهديدی است برای رأی مردم و انتخابات آزاد وبيشتر از آن تهديدی است برای منافع ملی ايران و اعتلای نظام جمهوری اسلامی.
آنانكه به جای تكيه بر قدرت دموكراتيك مردم دراين انتخابات برسازماندهی يك شبه نظامی و استفاده از شبكه نظارتی جهت دار و گسترده تكيه كردند و بهانه به دشمنان واقعی دمكراسی در ايران و جهان دادند ، خود بايد پاسخگو باشند.

من چون گذشته تنها شكوه به خداوند خواهم برد و با شما مردم سخن خواهم گفت.

من در اين مدت از لطف خداوند و انفجار عواطف انسانی در همه جای كشور بهره‌های فراوان برده ام ، از اين پس هم به اين دو متكی خواهم بود.

"و عسی ان تكرهوا شيئاً و هو خير لكم و عسی ان تحبوا شيئاً و هو شر لكم و الله يعلم و انتم لا يعلمون" (بقره216 )

خدمتگذار كوچك مردم

دكترمصطفی معين

​

 

[Farsi Zaban]

آنانكه به جای تكيه بر قدرت دموكراتيك مردم دراين انتخابات برسازماندهی يك شبه نظامی و استفاده از شبكه نظارتی جهت دار و گسترده تكيه كردند و بهانه به دشمنان واقعی دمكراسی در ايران و جهان دادند ، خود بايد پاسخگو باشند.

I've been saying that since morning. The people who are dreaming that this somehow decreases the chances of a foreign invasion need to smarten up. You just handed Bush his best excuse for attacking Iran. I really think that this could happen now.

 

[Chief]

Mr. Moin has no one to blame but himself for his poor showing. His lack of charisma was too evident to make him a popular candidate. His mumbling style of speech was even hard to understand for big city Persian speakers let alone people in the countryside. His campaign issues were out of touch with the concerns of the people. Reformists, with a much more popular and charismatic leader than him, had 8 years of record for the people to judge and in the final analysis they failed in the issues that are of most concern to the voters, namely economic issues. This was a good lesson for the reformist movement and their strategists.

And I find it very amusing that people who called for the boycott of the "selections" and dismissed the whole process are now suddenly talking about stolen "elections", very cute I must admit

 

[shahinc]

What is he complaning about .... !!!!

 

[khodam]

The results are questionable to say the least. The votes at one point were sup[posed to be 32 million, but ended up being 29. Moin with 4% of eligible votes in Tehran, for god's sake I know more people who voted for him! It just doesn't add up.

 

[shahinc]

The results are questionable to say the least. The votes at one point were sup[posed to be 32 million, but ended up being 29. Moin with 4% of eligible votes in Tehran, for god's sake I know more people who voted for him! It just doesn't add up.

Exactly my points

 

[Your Friend]

The results are questionable to say the least. The votes at one point were sup[posed to be 32 million, but ended up being 29. Moin with 4% of eligible votes in Tehran, for god's sake I know more people who voted for him! It just doesn't add up.

I don't think they would just let go that easy.
who ever is chosen will win .
After all don't kid yourself this is islamic power we are talking about and only elections won't change it.
You know it and I know it.
some still believe in reform .

 

[Niloufar]

The results are questionable to say the least. The votes at one point were sup[posed to be 32 million, but ended up being 29. Moin with 4% of eligible votes in Tehran, for god's sake I know more people who voted for him! It just doesn't add up.

Exactly. his votes were definetly stolen,same as Karoubi's votes.
Its impossible while Karoubi was one of the leading contenders after Rafs, all of a sudden in the last minutes AhmadiNejad becomes 2nd?!

 

[Simply Ken]

Moin was not cheated in this election. If anyone was cheated, it was Karrubi.

As for Khodam saying he "knows" more people voted for Moin, he means he would have assumed that to be the case. But frankly even Western reporters covering Tehran, and doing their own informal exit polls, were finding the vote even in Tehran completely split among these candidates. Indeed, the first alarm bell rang in my ears when I saw some of the people in line telling these reporters they were voting for ...Ahmadinejad!

If Ahmadinjead was going to get some of the votes in polling stations like the one in the Financial Times report, he was going to certainly do very well in South Tehran. Indeed, the number of voters that would go for the "conservatives" is not all that unpredictable: in all recent elections, they add to around 10 million. More than 9 million voted for Nategh Nouri, more than 10 million for conservatives in 2000 Majlis elections, around that many in 2001. More than that many in the 2003 municipal elections and the 2004 Majlis elections...

In this election, that "10 million+" voted for Ahmadinejad, with the rest of them split between Qalibaf, Larijani and a few for Rafsanjani.

 

[westwienmaskulin]

Mr. Moin has no one to blame but himself for his poor showing. His lack of charisma was too evident to make him a popular candidate.

And ahmadinejad is Alain Delon, isn't he??

 

[Chief]

And ahmadinejad is Alain Delon, isn't he??

Who is Alan Delon!?!?!?
You can bet your last Euro that Ahmadinejad is a more charismatic leader than Moin for proof I refer you to the election results.
I said it here before the elections that Moin has the least appealing personality amongst the candidates and some didn't like it but I was rite as usual, heeh!

 

[westwienmaskulin]

Who is Alan Delon!?!?!?
You can bet your last Euro that Ahmadinejad is a more charismatic leader than Moin for proof I refer you to the election results.
I said it here before the elections that Moin has the least appealing personality amongst the candidates and some didn't like it but I was rite as usual, heeh!

LOOOL!

Ok...Ahmadinejad is the young Alain Delon!
Guess the more peoples life you take, the younger and charismatic you become.

 

[Blazevic]

Moin was not cheated in this election. If anyone was cheated, it was Karrubi.

As for Khodam saying he "knows" more people voted for Moin, he means he would have assumed that to be the case. But frankly even Western reporters covering Tehran, and doing their own informal exit polls, were finding the vote even in Tehran completely split among these candidates. Indeed, the first alarm bell rang in my ears when I saw some of the people in line telling these reporters they were voting for ...Ahmadinejad!

If Ahmadinjead was going to get some of the votes in polling stations like the one in the Financial Times report, he was going to certainly do very well in South Tehran. Indeed, the number of voters that would go for the "conservatives" is not all that unpredictable: in all recent elections, they add to around 10 million. More than 9 million voted for Nategh Nouri, more than 10 million for conservatives in 2000 Majlis elections, around that many in 2001. More than that many in the 2003 municipal elections and the 2004 Majlis elections...

In this election, that "10 million+" voted for Ahmadinejad, with the rest of them split between Qalibaf, Larijani and a few for Rafsanjani.

Very well said (although your number is not right. Mahmood Kassif won ~5.5 million votes not +10MM).

I just want to add two cents here. The current situation, which is like a nightmare, is totally blamed on our so-called "intelectual" and "fighter for democracy" who did not vote at all. In Tehran, only 2.8MM voted. If we assume the population of Tehran is 10MM and out of that 5MM are eleigible to vote, therefore 2.2MM people who could have voted for Moeen did not do so. Moeen only needed 2MM more votes to maybe even become first. Now those who sit in LA, like idiot Hakha and those who follow him, owe us big explanation. My question to those who have boycotted the election is this: "Do you have any fucking solid plan on how to proceed from now on? If so, please share it with the rest of us and enlighten us with the vision you have from the future of Iran."

I am waiting for someone to answer my question.

 

[Simply Ken]

Very well said (although your number is not right. Mahmood Kassif won ~5.5 million votes not +10MM).

I just want to add two cents here. The current situation, which is like a nightmare, is totally blamed on our so-called "intelectual" and "fighter for democracy" who did not vote at all. In Tehran, only 2.8MM voted. If we assume the population of Tehran is 10MM and out of that 5MM are eleigible to vote, therefore 2.2MM people who could have voted for Moeen did not do so. Moeen only needed 2MM more votes to maybe even become first. Now those who sit in LA, like idiot Hakha and those who follow him, owe us big explanation. My question to those who have boycotted the election is this: "Do you have any fucking solid plan on how to proceed from now on? If so, please share it with the rest of us and enlighten us with the vision you have from the future of Iran."

I am waiting for someone to answer my question.

I didn't mean to say 10 million voted for Ahmadinejad. If read my messages clearly, I believe there is block of around 10 million who vote only for conservatives, not even reformers. Among them, most (5.5 million) went to Ahmadinejad, the rest divided between Qalibaf and Larijani, since they were concentrating expanding that base by appealing to middle class voters.

You are very right about the vote in Tehran. Turnout in Tehran has, thanks to the "boycott" folks, been lower than elsewhere in Iran. Under 50% across all of Tehran (south and north) in this election. If they did stats for North Tehran only, the number would probably be no more than 20%. All those were potential Moin voters!

The boycott did succeed: it made sure Moin is not in the runoff! It made the "conservatives" turn out in full force, while in the most "liberal" areas in Tehran, it kept many from voting. The overall turnout nationwide was 63%, which is good. But it was skewed: 99% of die hard regime loyalists voted probably, while the number of "liberal" (in reality they are not all liberal, except on social issues) voters was substantially underrepresented.

 

[Cyrus]

Reformists call for election boycott and then are shocked when the reformer candidate doesn't get enough votes. Khamnei and the hardliners didn't lose power when a reformist was president for 8 years with a Majlis controlled by the reformists for most of it. There is no need to cheat. Just because you're shocked doesn't mean the election is dirty.

 

[shahinc]

come on guys, We had 65% votting turn out How can you blame the boyycotts.

Rafsanjani is the choosen one and it will be proven this friday.

 

[Blazevic]

shahinc and General and L.A. Lovers,

Why do I not hear anything from you in answer to my question? Let me repeat my question to all "Intelectuals", to those who are trying hard to prove to the world that our government is not legit and popular (as if the world give a fuck!):

Do you have any fucking solid plan on how to proceed from now on? If so, please share it with the rest of us and enlighten us with the vision you have of the future of Iran.

 

[Mehran(ISP)]

I also agree with some people here. Everyone is saying boycott boycott, but why? what is their plan? to sit in their TV stations and answer phone calls when the people of Iran could of had a little more freedom; not much more; than they did before. What is their reasons? is boycotting gone overthrow the regime? are they gone say "oh, not enough people voted, lets just leave the country were not wanted here". Comon people. Mostafa Moein could of been the president, the first non akhoond president who might have done something for the people of Iran; more than the LAshkhors thats for sure.

 

[shahinc]

Do you have any fucking solid plan on how to proceed from now on? If so, please share it with the rest of us and enlighten us with the vision you have of the future of Iran.

Dear Blazevic,

Mr,Ganji has two books in which he explains the shortcommings with this regime and the chnages which need to take place to ensure a " PEACEFULL TRANSITION" to a more "DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY".

I suggest to you to borrow them from a library and read them. The only way we can fix the current problems in Iran is to allow a more open political enviroment.

This is not possible under current constitution and GC. Refrundom of constitution is a first step.

No one hear wants a US invation or another reveloution which will cost iran dearly.
I want all Iranian to have a chanse and a say intheir future and I do not bleive this elections gives us that.

again, Ganji's book are very informative about this subject. Also, someone posted Ms,Ebadi'es interview a few weeks back. She brifely explains her reasons to boycott this election.

 

[Blazevic]

Shahinc,

OK, you are saying "more open political enviroment". If revolution is not an option (as you said), if US invasion is not an option (as you said), how else can people obtain "more open political enviroment"?! Moeen could have helped in creating such envirnment, as Khatami did in his 8 years. Now, under Hashemi, the reform movement will go back from level 10 to level 5, and under Mahmood Kassif it will be beaten to death!

This is the problem with our "intelectuals". They read books (which are good book) and follow them without even thinking on their own.