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[Nadersan]

interesting about christians in Iran.
here is another story:

http://www.iranpressnews.com/source/207519.htm

This's surly true but I don't want to believe it . You don't see it in yourself to treat people like this , do you?
Majority of people at home are just like you n me . We didn't and don't care what beliefs anyone had , did we? I grew up together with a Jewish friend who followed us everywhere even those places they served Nazry . People of this Nezam in power are committing these crimes. We should not blame and include Iranian people at home for it .

 

[keyvan_pars]

This's surly true but I don't want to believe it . You don't see it in yourself to treat people like this , do you?
Majority of people at home are just like you n me . We didn't and don't care what beliefs anyone had , did we? I grew up Jewish friend who followed us everywhere even those places they served Nazry . People of this Nezam in power are committing these crimes. We should not blame and include Iranian people at home for it .

i don't see myself treating anyone like this, not even ape muslims.

but the monkeys that allow their government to get away with this are just as guilty. I have said the same things when the population of US allowed Bush to invade Iraq. same scenario different governments.

i include the iranian people at home for it. it is the government they elected. I blame the Canadian people for electing a celebrity as their prime minister. but it is all relative. at least our prime minister does not endorse torture and terrorism. He is just allowing a lot of people enter the country based on their race.

 

[Nadersan]

Mate , you are being unfair , people disappear permanently for writing an opinion in internet .
The only protest they could do is not to vote for leader's choice . They don't gamble with their lives.
You cannot compare the Nezam with democratic elected governments abroad .
We are dealing with a dictatorship which is very rich not like any African poor dictator . That make them more brutal ,

 

[Sly]

interesting about christians in Iran.
here is another story:

http://www.iranpressnews.com/source/207519.htm

IR might do and stand for a lot of international negative actions but one thing they can never take away from Iran and the Iranians (which is deeply rooted in our culture), and that is treating minorities differently. Counting out Bahais (who've received the biggest injustice), all other religious and ethnic minorities are treated exactly the same way as the Persian/Muslim majority. Only the Separatists use the discrimination excuse to justify their ideas/plans.

This is something we Iranians have lived with through history until now and should be proud of.

 

[keyvan_pars]

IR might do and stand for a lot of international negative actions but one thing they can never take away from Iran and the Iranians (which is deeply rooted in our culture), and that is treating minorities differently. Counting out Bahais (who've received the biggest injustice), all other religious and ethnic minorities are treated exactly the same way as the Persian/Muslim majority. Only the Separatists use the discrimination excuse to justify their ideas/plans.

This is something we Iranians have lived with through history until now and should be proud of.

have you heard or read about afghans in concentration camps in khorasan and golestan provinces ?

thousands of deportations of people who had lived in IR since pre islamic revolution ?

you being a religious person, have not appreciated the religious discrimination and supression against kurds, turkmens, baluchistanis ????

are you for real bro?

i am not even going into specifics of hundreds of thousands of summary executions, rapes, assualts of communists, socialists, writers, monarchists ?

really Sly jaan you need to get me some of the stuff you are on. looks like good weekend fun.

 

[keyvan_pars]

Mate , you are being unfair , people disappear permanently for writing an opinion in internet .
The only protest they could do is not to vote for leader's choice . They don't gamble with their lives.
You cannot compare the Nezam with democratic elected governments abroad .
We are dealing with a dictatorship which is very rich not like any African poor dictator . That make them more brutal ,

you can have it both ways.

either you don't compare 'democratic' regimes with scum like KSA or IR or you do ?

if you are rejecting those regimes and saying there are no comparisons then there is no thread here. on the other hand if you are saying 'it is pretty much the same' all over the world with minor tweaks here and there, there you need address the sheep or cow attitude of millions of citizens of IR.

one way or the other.

 

[Sly]

i am not even going into specifics of hundreds of thousands of summary executions, rapes, assualts of communists, socialists, writers, monarchists ?

Dude, let's not mix different things here. Yes, politically, even Muslims who've been working against IR have been executed. Not the least many journalists. So no difference between ethnic groups and Persians there. Compared to other nations where Kurds live, the Iranian Kurds have much more normal lives. There is nothing wrong with them unless they have been working politically against IR. No one (again with exception of Bahais) have been treated differently (let alone been prosecuted) only because they were peacefully practicing a certain religion or been from a certain ethnic group.

As for Afghanis, Iran has been a shelter for them for decades! How many have been living and working there? How many Afghan children go to school in Iran?

Let's not mix the facts here just to make a point. Because that will only complicate the discussion. Let's stick to the facts so we can learn something from each other.

 

[Nadersan]

I didn't want to ruin your weekend but couldn't help it
https://www.facebook.com/permalink....543508179&id=260305424001304&substory_index=0

 

[Nadersan]

you can have it both ways.

either you don't compare 'democratic' regimes with scum like KSA or IR or you do ?

if you are rejecting those regimes and saying there are no comparisons then there is no thread here. on the other hand if you are saying 'it is pretty much the same' all over the world with minor tweaks here and there, there you need address the sheep or cow attitude of millions of citizens of IR.

one way or the other.

I really want to agree with you but have hard time condemning the entire nation


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[keyvan_pars]

Dude, let's not mix different things here. Yes, politically, even Muslims who've been working against IR have been executed. Not the least many journalists. So no difference between ethnic groups and Persians there. Compared to other nations where Kurds live, the Iranian Kurds have much more normal lives. There is nothing wrong with them unless they have been working politically against IR. No one (again with exception of Bahais) have been treated differently (let alone been prosecuted) only because they were peacefully practicing a certain religion or been from a certain ethnic group.

As for Afghanis, Iran has been a shelter for them for decades! How many have been living and working there? How many Afghan children go to school in Iran?

Let's not mix the facts here just to make a point. Because that will only complicate the discussion. Let's stick to the facts so we can learn something from each other.

again i quote your exact words so you don't say i am putting words in your mouth or misunderstand etc etc ...

IR might do and stand for a lot of international negative actions but one thing they can never take away from Iran and the Iranians (which is deeply rooted in our culture), and that is treating minorities differently. Counting out Bahais (who've received the biggest injustice), all other religious and ethnic minorities are treated exactly the same way as the Persian/Muslim majority. Only the Separatists use the discrimination excuse to justify their ideas/plans.

This is something we Iranians have lived with through history until now and should be proud of.

what do you mean 'politically' ?

you can politically suppress an ethnic community but 'socially' be proud of them ???? i am going to politically leave baluchestan in poverty but socially ??? support them

Iranian kurds have been in constant turmoil since the 70s, there were huge massacres after the islamic revolution in kurdistan.

sly jaan please understand history did not start when you started reading books and the news. I know in your religion 'you' are the center of the universe but reality is quite different.

i really think you should really do more research in the topic above.

 

[keyvan_pars]

I really want to agree with you but have hard time condemning the entire nation


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bro it is not about condemnation of entire IR nation or any other nation.

as you saw 53 million people voted for Trump. other examples are theresa may and bush. However, the brits or canadians or americans are able to say that millions of idiots voted for trump they are fucking idiots. or the same for bush. Iranians say well it is out of our hands and it is in god's hands and what can we do ? bullshit bullshit bullshit ...

nothing is in motherfucking god's hands aside from the fucking money you put in the collection box or in IR's case the shit they roll up and stick up emaam reza's ass. or the sewage in southern tehran.

also those little child molestation boxes (sadaghe) all over the place. That is god's money. God is the most merciful and powerful but it needs money and it also decides the regime in IR.

unfortunately, iranians have sponges where a brain is supposed to be.

 

[keyvan_pars]

I really want to agree with you but have hard time condemning the entire nation


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sorry vali har chi fohsh e khaaro maadar bood be een dadam too delam va facebook.

what a fucked up world we are living in.

this goes beyond everything these muslims animals have done. i don't know what to say really i am out of my words and wit on this one ....

 

[Sly]

again i quote your exact words so you don't say i am putting words in your mouth or misunderstand etc etc ...



what do you mean 'politically' ?

you can politically suppress an ethnic community but 'socially' be proud of them ???? i am going to politically leave baluchestan in poverty but socially ??? support them

Iranian kurds have been in constant turmoil since the 70s, there were huge massacres after the islamic revolution in kurdistan.

sly jaan please understand history did not start when you started reading books and the news. I know in your religion 'you' are the center of the universe but reality is quite different.

i really think you should really do more research in the topic above.

Dude....I feel like we are diverting the discussion else where. Here is also your own quote:

interesting about christians in Iran.
here is another story:

http://www.iranpressnews.com/source/207519.htm

Are you trying to say Christians, Jews or whom ever (beside Bahais) are treated differently in Iran compared to Muslims? Only because they have another religion? Or what is your point here?

Ps. you don't know a thing about my religion or whether I'm practicing any at all or not, so that card of yours that you bring up in every thread never works as an argument.

 

[Nadersan]

I just wonder how a totally dead ideology can so impact in these people lives . What is in that book that take away all the good n kind nature in people n make them blind , cold , brutal .

 

[keyvan_pars]

Dude....I feel like we are diverting the discussion else where. Here is also your own quote:



Are you trying to say Christians, Jews or whom ever (beside Bahais) are treated differently in Iran compared to Muslims? Only because they have another religion? Or what is your point here?

ONE MILLION PERCENT YES YES YES.

Ps. you don't know a thing about my religion or whether I'm practicing any at all or not, so that card of yours that you bring up in every thread never works as an argument.

oh yes ? well i apologize. why don't you go into it a little bit.

do you believe in mohamad, ali, hossein and stuff? and the arab allah?
please tell me about you religion.

 

[Sly]

ONE MILLION PERCENT YES YES YES.

[video=youtube;MHcugV6vgDU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHcugV6vgDU[/video]

You need to read a bit more facts which are diverse instead of reading just one sided Iranian opinions.

oh yes ? well i apologize. why don't you go into it a little bit.

do you believe in mohamad, ali, hossein and stuff? and the arab allah?
please tell me about you religion.

I know you've been asking me this a thousand times but how is the answer to that even related to any of the discussion/discussions that we've been having here? Stick to the facts please. Don't let my religious or non-religious ideology change your approach towards our discussions here. Taking sides based on my ideology is not an objective way of discussing things.

 

[Sly]

^^^Here is another one:

I know this is from press TV and of course lots of propaganda involved but watch from minute 6:48 to the end:

[video=youtube;X-RdrCeeCgo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-RdrCeeCgo[/video]