What do you expect from Republicans who only care about their own pockets? All you have to do is listen to Glenn Beck all day making fun of food stamp and how you can have food stamp, go on date and have a fabulous life. Or making fun of everyone having insurance. Calling Obama virus that needs to be wiped out. All because he believes that money should not all go into the pocket of the very few. But today's republicans are out of touch. They prefer Somali or Iranian style country where very few have all the power and money, some middle class and the rest all poor, because knowing and not knowingly that is the country the republicans have created.
deerouz Jan, If you do not do that (i.e. excluding healthy individuals), you cannot afford to provide healthcare to everyone or provide Universal Healthcare. The so called "mandate" is exactly what Romany actually did in Massachusetts, now all of sudden he is against it, isn't that not hypocritical. Obamacare is not perfect I admit, but I will take that over what the Republican have proposed; i.e. nothing. My understanding is the US is the only industrial country which did not provide universal healthcare to its citizen.
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I think this has more to do with costing the government alot more money to pay for emergencies than stopping it when the problem arise. It is not a great plan by no means and Obama had to cut it but I dont think he had a choice. Look what the Republicans did to Clinton when he tried to bring insurance to everyone. Obama could not have done more , I dont think, without loosing the election except perhaps communicate it better. But then again, they are all in the pocket of the insurance companies. However, Democrats at least try to make some changes. All the blame on this go to Republicans.
Why do I get the feeling that for Obama to suggest a national healthcare system there would be an even bigger outcry? I guess in order to appeal to the right as well, the plan is about buying healthcare from the private sector.
As for forcing people to buy healthcare, well, we already do that in Europe. Every month part of our salary goes into national insurance and there is no voluntary opt out.
As for forcing people to buy healthcare, well, we already do that in Europe. Every month part of our salary goes into national insurance and there is no voluntary opt out.
I don't know, is it?
Again, as Mahdi said, a European style healthcare where the rich pay more and the poor nothing at all, wouldn't work in the US for various reasons. I mean, Obama is already labeled a socialist!!!! for his half baked plans. Imagine if he went all out towards a European style system. They'd hang him for being a communist
Tell me, to right wing America, aren't we Europeans all communists and socialists? LOL
Again, as Mahdi said, a European style healthcare where the rich pay more and the poor nothing at all, wouldn't work in the US for various reasons. I mean, Obama is already labeled a socialist!!!! for his half baked plans. Imagine if he went all out towards a European style system. They'd hang him for being a communist
Tell me, to right wing America, aren't we Europeans all communists and socialists? LOL
I don't know, is it?
Again, as Mahdi said, a European style healthcare where the rich pay more and the poor nothing at all, wouldn't work in the US for various reasons. I mean, Obama is already labeled a socialist!!!! for his half baked plans. Imagine if he went all out towards a European style system. They'd hang him for being a communist
Tell me, to right wing America, aren't we Europeans all communists and socialists? LOL
Again, as Mahdi said, a European style healthcare where the rich pay more and the poor nothing at all, wouldn't work in the US for various reasons. I mean, Obama is already labeled a socialist!!!! for his half baked plans. Imagine if he went all out towards a European style system. They'd hang him for being a communist
Tell me, to right wing America, aren't we Europeans all communists and socialists? LOL
anyway, it's a good move, specially as this was actually proposed years ago by Republicans. It really might just be the only way it works that health care becomes affordable. There are some other steps that need to be taken..in the US, there seems to be an excess on medical costs and everything once doctors see someone with medicare.
I know this from my sister who worked for a month in London and please correct me if I'm wrong, but when you work at NHS, you actually tell the patients some ways to take care of themselves, what to look out for, don't try to get excessive MRIs and what not etc. In the US, once somebody is covered, they get you CT for a headache, just to make sure it's not a brain tumor...at least what I have been told.
^^^ Yes, that's true. Part of it has to do with the fact that the NHS is over subscribed and there isn't enough money now. So healthcare professionals are told to save money by cutting excess and unnecessary operations. But this is not done at the expense of putting people's lives at risk.
What is happening in the US is what happens in Iran too. When doctors see someone with health insurance they direct him to a private hospital where they perform lots of procedures they don't need, just so they can benefit from the pay back. That's one of the pitfalls of private healthcare.
What is happening in the US is what happens in Iran too. When doctors see someone with health insurance they direct him to a private hospital where they perform lots of procedures they don't need, just so they can benefit from the pay back. That's one of the pitfalls of private healthcare.
Mahdi JAn, that is part of the problem, the additional tests often recommended are often for lawsuit protection. Doctors want to cover themselves against future claims by covering all possibilities. One of doctors major expenses of practicing medicine is malpractice insurance premium. I do not blame the doctors, it is mostly trail lawyers who got very rich who file malpractice lawsuits.
Lool Natural - finaly you find something positive for Obama!!! lol
You'd be surprised - but I support a basic national healthcare for all Americans.......but what people like Behrooz here fails to see, is that America is run like a business....like any business it must balance it's budget and make sure expenditures and income are not out of wack. Behrooz jaan - I think you are unfair in assuming people lesser of humans, for wanting to make sure fundings are there ahead of time. This is not about compassion - and at least from where I am sitting, I see far far more compassion amongst the conservatives than I see in Liberals, among whom all I see is self conservation, and unaccountability, complemented with comedy!! lol .....it comes with the definition of the term Liberal. However, as I sdaid, I am for this particular plan as long as smart asses like Obama & Co. do not insert smart-ass strategies to create more and more government interference requiring yet bigger government and more bureaucracy. Also - let's not lose sight on the fact that the fastest way to kill a capitalist or any other system is to allow government own/run businesses and make rules for the public buy it's products.
Please try to see this issue above compassion .....as I said many times in the past...the fastest way to gain politiocal support is to promiss people more income, free handouts, for less work. Exactly What Khomeini did, and how Obama got elected in his first term. More and more I see black Americans who are deflated by not seeing the $$$ Obama promissed them!!!
You'd be surprised - but I support a basic national healthcare for all Americans.......but what people like Behrooz here fails to see, is that America is run like a business....like any business it must balance it's budget and make sure expenditures and income are not out of wack. Behrooz jaan - I think you are unfair in assuming people lesser of humans, for wanting to make sure fundings are there ahead of time. This is not about compassion - and at least from where I am sitting, I see far far more compassion amongst the conservatives than I see in Liberals, among whom all I see is self conservation, and unaccountability, complemented with comedy!! lol .....it comes with the definition of the term Liberal. However, as I sdaid, I am for this particular plan as long as smart asses like Obama & Co. do not insert smart-ass strategies to create more and more government interference requiring yet bigger government and more bureaucracy. Also - let's not lose sight on the fact that the fastest way to kill a capitalist or any other system is to allow government own/run businesses and make rules for the public buy it's products.
Please try to see this issue above compassion .....as I said many times in the past...the fastest way to gain politiocal support is to promiss people more income, free handouts, for less work. Exactly What Khomeini did, and how Obama got elected in his first term. More and more I see black Americans who are deflated by not seeing the $$$ Obama promissed them!!!