Occupy Wall Street

masoudA

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I am not joking when I say the same people who brought IR -
I am sure the older members remember this SOB

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IRI thinks occupy wall street is "bidari eslami" and our dear member here thinks it will bring about Islamic revolution to the U.S.A!!
How on earth political, social and economic conditions of Today U.S.A is comparable to those of Iran in 1970s is not important and could be ignored for sake of propaganda (Fox news style)!!!
 

masoudA

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IRI thinks occupy wall street is "bidari eslami" and our dear member here thinks it will bring about Islamic revolution to the U.S.A!!
How on earth political, social and economic conditions of Today U.S.A is comparable to those of Iran in 1970s is not important and could be ignored for sake of propaganda (Fox news style)!!!
First of all - it will be a while before Fox News catches up to what I write here and find out who America's realy enemies are.
Second - I never said there is any similarities between USA and Iran at any point in time....I said the same gang that brought IR to Iran is at it again here in USA. Does Euro Royals ring any bells????
Time will tell.....
BTW - to BT, on the subject of what is pathetic....
Is the silence which people like #8, you, Nilou, ........will adapt when all of this BS comes to surface......Us Iranians have a habit of never apologizing or even akhnowledging our past idiosyncracies!!
 

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A participant protests with a mock 500 euro bill during a demonstration to support the "Occupy Wall Street" movement in Munich southern Germany, on October 15, 2011. Protestors gathered at many major European cities Saturday to join in demonstrations against corporate greed and inequality.(AP Photo/Joerg Koch)





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Protesters with the "Occupy Seattle" movement march, Saturday, October 15, 2011, near the Pike Place Market in downtown Seattle. (AP Photo/Ted S. Warren) #



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"Indignant" demonstrators stage a protest in front of the Stock Exchange in Brussels, on October 15, 2011. Demonstrators rallied on Saturday across the world to accuse bankers and politicians of wrecking economies. (Reuters/Sebastien Pirlet) #



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An Occupy Tokyo protester wears a mask during a rally in Tokyo, on October 15, 2011. Protesters worldwide geared up for a cry of rage on Saturday against bankers, financiers and politicians they accuse of ruining global economies and condemning millions to poverty and hardship through greed. Galvanised by the past month's Occupy Wall Street movement, they plan to take to the streets from Sydney to Alaska via London, Frankfurt, Washington and New York. The characters on the mask, "99%", stemmed from the Occupy Wall Street movement, is a reference to the idea that the top 1 percent of Americans have too much. (Reuters/Issei Kato) #



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Protesters shout slogans during the "Occupy Seoul" rally near the Seoul Plaza in central Seoul, on October 15, 2011. About 1,000 people rallied in the evening on Saturday in support of the worldwide cry of rage against bankers, financiers and politicians they accuse of ruining global economies and condemning millions to poverty and hardship through greed. (Reuters/Cho Sung-bong) #



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People make their way along Cushman Street during the Occupy Fairbanks march through downtown Fairbanks, Alaska, on October 15, 2011. Hundreds of people turned out for the event to show their concern and disapproval for the government. (AP Photo / Fairbanks Daily News-Miner, Eric Engman) #



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Protesters clash with police in downtown Rome, Italy, on October 15, 2011. Protesters in Rome smashed shop windows and torched cars as violence broke out during a demonstration in the Italian capital, part of worldwide protests against corporate greed and austerity measures. (AP Photo/Gregorio Borgia) #



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Police fire tear gas in Rome, on October 15, 2011. Italian police fired tear gas and water cannons as protesters in Rome turned a demonstration against corporate greed into a riot Saturday, smashing shop and bank windows, torching cars and hurling bottles. The protest in the Italian capital was part of "Occupy Wall Street" demonstrations against capitalism and austerity measures that went global Saturday, leading to dozens of marches and protests worldwide. (AP Photo/Angelo Carconi) #



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A protester wearing a Guy Fawkes mask look on as a Carabinieri police vehicle burns during a demonstration by the "Indignant" group in Rome, on October 15, 2011. (Reuters/Stefano Rellandini) #



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Protesters with the "Occupy Seattle" movement burn a Bank of America debit card as they protest, on October 15, 2011, in downtown Seattle. (AP Photo/Ted S. Warren) #



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People sign a huge banner during the "Occupy DC" anti-corporations protest at Freedom Plaza in Washington, DC, on October 10, 2011. A four-day protest in Washington to reclaim American politics for the people went into overtime, its participants vowing to stay put despite the expiry of their permit. The Stop the Machine occupation of Freedom Plaza is one of two ongoing protests in the capital, alongside the like-minded but more youthful Occupy DC sit-in, now in its 10th day. (Jewel Samad/AFP/Getty Images) #



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Five-month-old Augustus Rutt, who is teething, chews on a sign during a Rally in support of Occupy Wall Street, in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, on October 15, 2011. (AP Photo/Sunday News, Justin David Graybill) #



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Occupy Wall Street protesters spend the day marching from their base in Zuccotti Park in New York City, past several banks towards Washington Square before they head to Times Square for a rally on Saturday, October 15, 2011. (AP Photo/David Karp) #



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Occupy Wall Street participants try to push trough police barricade as the authorities stop them to take their demonstration onto the street on Times Square in New York, on October 15, 2011. Thousands of demonstrators protesting corporate greed filled Times Square and some 15 demonstrators were handcuffed and loaded into a police van following confrontation with police. (Emmanuel Dunand/AFP/Getty Images) #



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Occupy Wall Street protesters shout slogans during a protest at Times Square in New York, on October 15, 2011. Thousands of anti-Wall Street protesters rallied in New York's Times Square on Saturday, buoyed by a global day of demonstrations in support of their monthlong campaign against corporate greed. (Reuters/Eduardo Munoz) #



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New York City police officers arrest a man who was at a Citibank branch near Washington Square park where the Occupy Wall Street demonstrators are holding a rally, on October 15, 2011 in New York. (AP Photo/Mary Altaffer) #



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A demonstrator affiliated with the Occupy Wall Street carries a sign during a rally in New York's Times Square, on October 15, 2011. (AP Photo/Mary Altaffer) #



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A demonstrator with her face painted with Puerto Rico's flag colors attends an Occupy Puerto Rico protest in San Juan, Puerto Rico, on October 15, 2011. The gathering in the capital of San Juan was one of dozens of global protests launched Saturday in support of the Occupy Wall Street movement. (AP Photo/Ricardo Arduengo) #



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A demonstrator speaks as he holds a Puerto Rican flag during the Occupy Puerto Rico protest in San Juan, Puerto Rico, on October 15, 2011. About 200 people in Puerto Rico gathered in a financial district dubbed "The Golden Mile" to protest capitalism and government cuts as part of worldwide demonstrations. (AP Photo/Ricardo Arduengo) #



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Protesters display their banners as they march towards the U.S. embassy in solidarity with the U.S. protest dubbed "Occupy Wall Street", on October 15, 2011 in Manila, Philippines. (AP Photo/Pat Roque) #



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Thousands of protesters gather at the Vancouver Art Gallery as they participate in the Occupy Vancouver protest on October 15, 2011 in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. An estimated 2,000 people participated in the Vancouver occupation. (Jeff Vinnick/Getty Images) #



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San Diego police officers haul off Occupy San Diego protesters as they remove tents and structures from the Civic Center Plaza, on October 14, 2011, in San Diego. One man was arrested Friday as police officials removed the tents, where protesters have been camping out for days. (AP Photo/ Gregory Bull) #



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A protester holds a placard during an anti-capitalist demonstration, in Paris, France, on October 15, 2011. The placard reads: " We are the 99 per cent, too big to fail". (AP Photo/Thibault Camus) #



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In this photo taken Saturday, October 15, 2011, protesters take part in a march and rally at Michigan and Congress in Chicago, Illinois for the Global Day of Occupation. About 2,000 people participated Saturday in an Occupy Chicago demonstration, and about 500 pitched tents in Congress Plaza that evening. Chicago police say the protesters were told to remove their tents and leave the park when it closed at 11 p.m. When they refused, police began cutting down the tents and making arrests. (AP Photo/Chicago Sun-Times, Scott Stewart) #
 

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A demonstrator dressed as Jesus Christ takes part in the Occupy London Stock Exchange demonstration in London, on October 15, 2011. (AP Photo/Elizabeth Dalziel) #






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A businessman sticks his tongue out in jest as he walks past tents erected by protesters from the Occupy London Stock Exchange group, as they continue their demonstration that started on Saturday outside St Paul's Cathedral in London, on October 17, 2011. (AP Photo/Matt Dunham) #



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"Occupy Together" activists gather underneath the Monument of the Revolution in Mexico City, Mexico, on October 15, 2011. (Reuters/Claudia Daut) #



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Swedish and international protesters hold banners as they take part in the "Occupy Stockholm" demonstration held at Sergels Torg in Stockholm, on October 15, 2011. Protesters launched worldwide street demonstrations on October 15 against corporate greed and biting cutbacks in a rolling action targeting 951 cities in 82 countries. (Jonathan Nackstrand/AFP/Getty Images) #



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A bird flies above a bronze statue of a bull where protesters left Guy Fawkes masks during an "Occupy Hong Kong" rally outside the Hong Kong Exchange Square, on October 15, 2011. A group of people gathered in support of "Occupy Wall Street" and the Occupy Movement around the world. (AP Photo/Kin Cheung) #



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Protestors march through the streets of Berlin during a demonstration to support the "Occupy Wall Street" movement on Saturday, October 15, 2011. Protesters gathered at many major European cities Saturday to join in demonstrations against corruption, capitalism and austerity measures. (AP Photo/Maja Hitij) #



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Berlin police officers carry a protester after a sit-in demonstrating against the influence of bankers and financiers in front of the Reichstag building on October 15, 2011 in Berlin, Germany. Activists are demanding an end to the free-wheeling ways of global financial players whom they see as responsible for the current European and American economic woes. (Carsten Koall/Getty Images) #



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Tourists in a cable car take photographs of Occupy San Francisco protesters during a demonstration along the streets of San Francisco, California, on October 15, 2011. (Reuters/Robert Galbraith) #



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Tymaeus Yunker works on making tie dye shirts at Pioneer Plaza in downtown Dallas, Texas, on October 13, 2011. Yunker, an Occupy Dallas activist, is part of the movement that came together following the Wall Street demonstrations. The local group which numbers in the 200 to 300 range has been based at the downtown park since last Thursday. (AP Photo/Tony Gutierrez) #



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Occupy Tallahassee demonstrators listen to a speaker at the Florida Capitol, on October 14, 2011, in Tallahassee, Florida, Demonstrators plan to return Saturday in support of the ongoing Occupy Wall Street protesters in New York. (AP Photo/Phil Sears) #






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People participate in an Occupy Miami protest on October 15, 2011 in Miami, Florida. Inspired by the 'Occupy Wall Street' protests in New York City, an estimated 1,000 people showed up to participate in the Miami protest. (Joe Raedle/Getty Images) #



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Protesters gather in front of the Reserve Bank of Australia in central Sydney, Australia, Saturday, October 15, 2011. (AP Photo/Rick Rycroft) #



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A Jordanian protester carrying a placard readin in English, "in Solidarity with 'Occupy Wall Street Movement'" stands outside the US embassy as members of the Communist Party gather at one of a number of protests around the world in Amman, Jordan, on October 15, 2011. The banner behind him, which is partially obscured, reads, "Jordanian Communist Party, capitalism is vicious and a known threat to humanity." (AP Photo/Mohammad Hannon) #



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A group of about 200 demonstrators take to the streets of downtown Phoenix, Arizona late Friday afternoon, October 14, 2011 as part of the "Occupy Phoenix" movement. (AP Photo/The Arizona Repubiic, Dave Seibert) #



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Thousands of demonstrators gather at Madrid's landmark Puerta del Sol as part of the United for Global Change movement against banking and finance in Madrid October 15, 2011. Demonstrators rallied on Saturday across the world to accuse bankers and politicians of wrecking economies. (Reuters/Susana Vera) #



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Protesters who sympathize with Occupy Wall Street gather at the state Capitol in Little Rock, Arkansas, on October 15, 2011. (AP Photo/Danny Johnston) #



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An activist holding a placard reading "I want a job!" takes part in a protest in front of the Taipei 101 building October 15, 2011. More than a hundred protesters gathered in front of Taiwan's landmark Taipei 101 building on Saturday in response to the global Occupy Together movement against unfair wealth distribution. (Reuters/Pichi Chuang) #



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Rose Olsovsky of Richmond, Virginia, takes her message high above the crowd during the Occupy Richmond rally in Monroe Park in Richmond, Virginia, on October 15, 2011. (AP Photo/P. Kevin Morley,Richmond Times-Dispatch) #



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Protesters march during a "March of the outraged" in Santiago, Chile, Saturday October 15, 2011. The gathering in the capital of Santiago was one of dozens of global protests launched Saturday in support of the Occupy Wall Street movement. (AP Photo/Aliosha Marquez) #



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People march towards the state Capitol during an Occupy Atlanta protest march on Saturday, October 15, 2011 in Atlanta, Georgia. (AP Photo/Erik S. Lesser) #



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Participants hold placards to surround Taipei 101 during a protest named "Occupy Taipei" organized by Taiwanese net friends in Taipei, Taiwan, on October 15, 2011. (AP Photo/Chiang Ying-ying) #



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Occupy Los Angeles protesters march in the Protest Against Corporate Greed on their International Day of Action in Los Angeles, California, on October 15, 2011. Occupy LA is part of the Occupy Wall Street movement that began in New York last month with a few people and expanded to protest marches and camps across the US and abroad. (Reuters/David McNew) #



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Protesters with Occupy Pittsburgh take part in a rally in Pittsburgh, on October 15, 2011. The demonstration is one of many being held across the country recently in support of the ongoing Occupy Wall Street demonstration in New York. (AP Photo/Don Wright) #



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Betsy Skipp of Miami takes part in the Occupy Miami protest in Miami, Florida, October 15, 2011. (Reuters/Joe Skipper) #
 

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BTW - to BT, on the subject of what is pathetic....
Is the silence which people like #8, you, Nilou, ........will adapt when all of this BS comes to surface......Us Iranians have a habit of never apologizing or even akhnowledging our past idiosyncracies!!
I think you mean idiocy. Idiosyncrasy means something else. But, I suppose Tea baggers don't do vocabulary either.

If the former, yes you are right. Never mind apologizing, we're still waiting for you to acknowledge the idiocy of your support for Bush's idiocy in invading Iraq. We're, however, not holding our breath that you will ever acknowledge having, not only supported invading Iran, but also claimed you would fight alongside Kheneral Acharpayan and American soldiers in that endeavor.
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Who Do the White Shirt Police Report to at Occupy Wall Street Protests?

Financial Giants Put New York City Cops On Their Payroll



by PAM MARTENS


Videos are springing up across the internet showing uniformed members of the New York Police Department in white shirts (as opposed to the typical NYPD blue uniforms) pepper spraying and brutalizing peaceful, nonthreatening protestors attempting to take part in the Occupy Wall Street marches. Corporate media are reporting that these white shirts are police supervisors as opposed to rank and file. Recently discovered documents suggest something else may be at work.

If you’re a Wall Street behemoth, there are endless opportunities to privatize profits and socialize losses beyond collecting trillions of dollars in bailouts from taxpayers. One of the ingenious methods that has remained below the public’s radar was started by the Rudy Giuliani administration in New York City in 1998. It’s called the Paid Detail Unit and it allows the New York Stock Exchange and Wall Street corporations, including those repeatedly charged with crimes, to order up a flank of New York’s finest with the ease of dialing the deli for a pastrami on rye.

The corporations pay an average of $37 an hour (no medical, no pension benefit, no overtime pay) for a member of the NYPD, with gun, handcuffs and the ability to arrest. The officer is indemnified by the taxpayer, not the corporation.

New York City gets a 10 percent administrative fee on top of the $37 per hour paid to the police. The City’s 2011 budget called for $1,184,000 in Paid Detail fees, meaning private corporations were paying wages of $11.8 million to police participating in the Paid Detail Unit. The program has more than doubled in revenue to the city since 2002.

The taxpayer has paid for the training of the rent-a-cop, his uniform and gun, and will pick up the legal tab for lawsuits stemming from the police personnel following illegal instructions from its corporate master. Lawsuits have already sprung up from the program.

When the program was first rolled out, one insightful member of the NYPD posted the following on a forum: “… regarding the officer working for, and being paid by, some of the richest people and organizations in the City, if not the world, enforcing the mandates of the private employer, and in effect, allowing the officer to become the Praetorian Guard of the elite of the City. And now corruption is no longer a problem. Who are they kidding?”

Just this year, the Department of Justice revealed serious problems with the Paid Detail unit of the New Orleans Police Department. Now corruption probes are snowballing at NOPD, revealing cash payments to police in the Paid Detail and members of the department setting up limited liability corporations to run upwards of $250,000 in Paid Detail work billed to the city.

When the infamously mismanaged Wall Street firm, Lehman Brothers, collapsed on September 15, 2008, its bankruptcy filings in 2009 showed it owed money to 21 members of the NYPD’s Paid Detail Unit. (A phone call and email request to the NYPD for information on which Wall Street firms participate in the program were not responded to. The police unions appear to have only scant information about the program.)

Other Wall Street firms that are known to have used the Paid Detail include Goldman Sachs, the World Financial Center complex which houses financial firms, and the New York Stock Exchange.

The New York Stock Exchange is the building in front of which the Occupy Wall Street protesters have unsuccessfully tried to protest, being herded behind metal barricades, clubbed with night sticks, kicked in the face and carted off to jail rather than permit the last plantation in America to be defiled with citizen chants and posters. (A sample of those politically inconvenient posters and chants: “The corrupt are afraid of us; the honest support us; the heroic join us”; “Tell me what democracy looks like, this is what democracy looks like”; “I’ll believe a corporation is a person when Texas executes one.” The last sign refers to the 2010 U.S. Supreme Court decision, Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, giving corporations First Amendment personhood, which allows them to spend unlimited amounts of money in elections.)

On September 8, 2004, Robert Britz, then President and Co-Chief Operating Officer of the New York Stock Exchange, testified as follows to the U.S. House Committee on Financial Services:


“…we have implemented new hiring standards requiring former law enforcement or military backgrounds for the security staff…We have established a 24-hour NYPD Paid Detail monitoring the perimeter of the data centers…We have implemented traffic control and vehicle screening at the checkpoints. We have installed fixed protective planters and movable vehicle barriers.”

Military backgrounds; paid NYPD 24-7; checkpoints; vehicle barriers? It might be insightful to recall that the New York Stock Exchange originally traded stocks with a handshake under a Buttonwood tree in the open air on Wall Street.

In his testimony, the NYSE executive Britz states that “we” did this or that while describing functions that clearly belong to the City of New York. The New York Stock Exchange at that time had not yet gone public and was owned by those who had purchased seats on the exchange – primarily, the largest firms on Wall Street. Did the NYSE simply give itself police powers to barricade streets and set up checkpoints with rented cops? How about clubbing protesters on the sidewalk?

Just six months before NYSE executive Britz’ testimony to a congressional committee, his organization was being sued in the Supreme Court of New York County for illegally taking over public streets with no authority to do so. This action had crippled the business of a parking garage, Wall Street Garage Parking Corp., the plaintiff in the case. Judge Walter Tolub said in his opinion that


“…a private entity, the New York Stock Exchange, has assumed responsibility for the patrol and maintenance of truck blockades located at seven intersections surrounding the NYSE…no formal authority appears to have been given to the NYSE to maintain these blockades and/or conduct security searches at these checkpoints…the closure of these intersections by the NYSE is tantamount to a public nuisance…The NYSE has yet to provide this court with any evidence of an agreement giving them the authority to maintain the security perimeter and/or conduct the searches that their private security force conducts daily. As such, the NYSE’s actions are unlawful and may be enjoined as they violate plaintiff’s civil rights as a private citizen.”

The case was appealed, the ruling overturned, and sent back to the same Judge who had no choice but to dismiss the case on the appellate ruling that the plaintiff had suffered no greater harm than the community at large. Does everyone in lower Manhattan own a parking garage that is losing its customer base because the roads are blocked to the garage?

Some believe that Wall Street is given special privileges and protection because New York City’s Mayor Michael Bloomberg owes his $18.1 billion in wealth (yes, he’s that 1 percent the 99 percent are protesting) to Wall Street. The Mayor was previously a trader for Salomon Brothers, the investment bank made famous for attempting to rig the U.S. Treasury market in two-year notes.

The Mayor’s business empire which bears his name, includes the awesome Bloomberg terminal, a computer that houses enormous pricing data for stocks and bonds, research, news, charting functions and much more. There are currently an estimated 290,000 of these terminals on Wall Street trading floors around the globe, generating approximately $1500 in rental fees per terminal per month. That’s a cool $435 million a month or $5.2 billion a year, the cash cow of the Bloomberg businesses.

The Bloomberg businesses are run independently from the Mayor but he certainly knows that his terminal is a core component of his wealth. Nonetheless, the Mayor is not Wall Street’s patsy. Bloomberg Publishing is frequently in the forefront of exposing fraud on Wall Street such as the 2001 tome “The Pied Pipers of Wall Street” by Benjamin Mark Cole, which exposed the practice of releasing fraudulent stock research to the public. Bloomberg News was responsible for court action that forced the Federal Reserve to release the details of what it did with trillions of dollars in taxpayer bailouts to Wall Street firms, hedge funds and foreign banks.

Police Commissioner Ray Kelly may also have a soft spot for Wall Street. He was formerly Senior Managing Director of Global Corporate Security at Bear, Stearns & Co. Inc., the Wall Street firm that collapsed into the arms of JPMorgan in March of 2008.

There has also been a bizarre revolving door between the Wall Street millionaires and the NYPD at times. One of the most puzzling career moves was made by Stephen L. Hammerman. He left a hefty compensation package as Vice Chairman of Merrill Lynch & Co. in 2002 to work as Deputy Commissioner of Legal Matters for the NYPD from 2002 to 2004. That move had everyone on Wall Street scratching their head at the time. Merrill collapsed into the arms of Bank of America on September 15, 2008, the same date that Lehman went under.

Wall Street is not the only sector renting cops in Manhattan. Department stores, parks, commercial banks and landmarks like Rockefeller Center, Jacob Javits Center and St. Patrick’s Cathedral have also participated in the Paid Detail Unit, according to insiders. But Wall Street is the only sector that runs a private justice system where its crimes are herded off to secret arbitration tribunals, has sucked on the public teat to the tune of trillions of dollars, escaped prosecution for the financial collapse, and can put an armed municipal force on the sidewalk to intimidate public protestors seeking a realignment of their democracy.

We may be learning a lot more in the future about the tactics Wall Street and the NYPD have deployed against the Occupy Wall Street protestors. The highly regarded Partnership for Civil Justice Fund has filed a class action lawsuit over the approximately 700 arrests made on the Brooklyn Bridge on October 1. The formal complaint and related information is available at the organization’s web site, www.JusticeOnLine.org.

The organization was founded by Carl Messineo and Mara Verheyden-Hilliard. The Washington Post has called them “the constitutional sheriffs for a new protest generation.”

The suit names Mayor Bloomberg, Police Commissioner Kelly, the City of New York, 30 unnamed members of the NYPD, and, provocatively, 10 unnamed law enforcement officers not employed by the NYPD.

The lawsuit lays out dwhat has been curtailing the constitutional rights of protestors for a very long time in New York City.


“As seen in the movements for social change in the Middle East and Europe, all movements for social justice, jobs, and democracy need room to breathe and grow and it is imperative that there be a halt to law enforcement actions used to shut down mass assembly and free expression of the people seeking to redress grievances…

“After escorting and leading a group of demonstrators and others well out onto the Brooklyn Bridge roadway, the NYPD suddenly and without warning curtailed further forward movement, blocked the ability of persons to leave the Bridge from the rear, and arrested hundreds of protestors in the absence of probable cause. This was a form of entrapment, both illegal and physical.

“That the trap and detain mass arrest was a command-level-driven intentional and calculated police operation is evidenced by the fact that the law enforcement officials who led the demonstration across the bridge were command officials, known as ‘white shirts.’ ”

In April 2001, I was arrested and incarcerated by the NYPD while peacefully handing out flyers on a public sidewalk outside of the Citigroup shareholders meeting – flyers that warned of growing corruption inside the company. (The unlawful merger of Travelers Group and Citibank created Citigroup and resulted in the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act, the depression era investor protection legislation that barred depositor banks from merging with high-risk Wall Street firms. Many of us from social justice groups in New York City had protested against the repeal but were out maneuvered by Wall Street’s political pawns in Washington.)

Out of a group of about two dozen protestors from the National Organization for Women in New York City, Rain Forest Action Network, and Inner City Press, I was the only person arrested. There was no civil disobedience occurring. Rain Forest Action Network was handing out fortune cookies with prescient warnings about Citigroup and urging pedestrians to cut up their Citibank credit cards. The rest of us were peacefully handing out flyers.

Chained to a metal bar inside the police precinct, I was grilled on any crimes I might know about. I responded that the only crimes I knew about were listed on the flyer and apparently, in New York City, one gets arrested for disclosing crimes by Wall Street firms.

A mysterious, mature, white shirted inspector who ordered my arrest on the sidewalk, and refused to give his first name, disappeared from the police report when it was filed, blaming the arrest instead on a young police officer. Citigroup is only alive today because the Federal government inserted a feeding tube into Citigroup and infused over $2 trillion in loans, direct investment and guarantees as the company veered toward collapse.

The NYPD at the time of my arrest was run by Bernard Kerik – the man President George W. Bush later sent to Iraq to be the interim Interior Minister and train Iraqi police. The President subsequently nominated Kerik to head the Department of Homeland Security for the entire nation. The nation was spared of that eventuality only because of an illegal nanny popping up. Today, Kerik is serving a four year sentence in Federal prison for a variety of criminal acts.

The New York Civil Liberties Union filed a Federal lawsuit on my behalf (Martens v. Giuliani) and we learned that the NYPD had arbitrarily established a policy to arrest and hold for 72 hours any person protesting in a group of 20 or more. The case was settled for a modest monetary award and the repeal by the NYPD of this unconstitutional and despicable practice.

Pam Martens worked on Wall Street for 21 years. She spent the last decade of her career advocating against Wall Street’s private justice system, which keeps its crimes shielded from public courtrooms. She has been writing on public interest issues for CounterPunch since retiring in 2006. She has no security position, long or short, in any company mentioned in this article. She can be reached
http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/10/10/financial-giants-put-new-york-city-cops-on-their-payroll/
 

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"United States Marine Corps. Sgt. Shamar Thomas from Roosevelt, NY went toe to toe with the New York Police Department. An activist in the Occupy Wall Street movement, Thomas voiced his opinions of the NYPD police brutality that had and has been plaguing the #OWS movement. Thomas is a 24-year-old Marine Veteran (2 tours in Iraq), he currently plays amateur football and is in college. Thomas comes from a long line of people who sacrifice for their country: Mother, Army Veteran (Iraq), Step father, Army, active duty (Afghanistan), Grand father, Air Force veteran (Vietnam), Great Grand Father Navy veteran (World War II)."

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I think you mean idiocy. Idiosyncrasy means something else.
No Pahlevoon - I meant Idiosyncracy - Idiocy is what you just did.
Then again.....when short in logic - why not play spellchecker,.........that is all you are left with.
BTW - Good luck with your global revolution.....u and yours already fucked up Iran - why not screw the rest of the world.
 

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Masoud jaan, with all due respect, I think you have really lost it - just my humble opinion!! I don't know if you have an ulterior motive, or are just misguided, but you are entitled to your opinions as are the rest of us. What, however, you are NOT entitled to, is resorting to insults and personal attacks when individuals, very well respected and intelligent ones at that, point out the flaws and lack of logic in your arguments and you poor grasp of the English language. I am a strong advocate for freedom of speech and urge you to continue to express yourself, but you should be prepared to hear opposing views without getting overly emotional and resorting to insults when at a loss to defend your position logically.
 

masoudA

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That one hurt....but wth
Khorous,
When a group of people leave a trace of similar bahavior.......it becomes an idiosyncracy....
I was not pointing out stupidity.....I was pointing out continously taking the wrong side and never admitting it.....

As for having lost it - or my command of the language......I don't know what to say...
I will let this one go......it is beneath me and you.

Anyways - do you think this global support of the Occupy Wall Street is just a a natural reaction - or is there a certain entity behind it - and if so who?
 

Zob Ahan

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This one is for Masoud:
Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad outright denies the existence of Occupy Wall St, Written by Alvin Taveras
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Topics: McDonalds, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, UN, Occupy Wall Street
Wednesday, 19 October 2011


TEHRAN - On Tuesday, the President of Iran Mahmoud Ahmadinejad outright rejected the notion that protests are taking place in New York City and around the world. He pointed to the absence of news coverage on Iranian television and his visit to the United Nations last month that would preclude such demonstrations.

"I have been to the New York City of America and believe me, there are no protests," says Ahmadinejad. "I know when I see a revolution because I crush it each time it rises."

President Ahmadinejad continued, "The president of New York City doesn't even know I go wherever I want when I'm there. I eat pizza. I drink energy drinks. I even buy happy meals from McDonald's."

Occupiers have taken grave offense to Ahmadinejad's remarks and threatened to continue in their espionage and begin 'another Green Revolution in Tehran via Twitter.' Some have even said they will follow the trails of those two American hikers that enter into Tehran simply to begin an Occupy Wall St over there.

A spokesperson for Obama tried to quell the animosity between Ahmadinejad and Occupiers by telling them the best way to prove a historical event to Ahmadinejad is to have Saudi Arabia tell them.

In other related news, McDonald's has categorically denied serving food to Ahmadinejad anywhere in the world. They also mentioned their new three for one-dollar apple pie special.

Make Alvin Taveras's day - give this story five thumbs-up (there's no need to register, the thumbs are just down there!)
 

masoudA

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pacheh gereftan kare galeh sageh.......I know leftists love to act as a galeh - but certainly not sags ..... :peep:

So anyone - do you think the 99% crowd popping up all over the place are just coincidences? Are these just random people suddenly part of the 99% !!?? Did these guys in Palestine and China suddenly realized they are part of the 99%!!!?

I can't believe the lack of wisdom on this site.......very uncharacteristic of Iranians....unless fear plays a role here !!
has to be fear - indeed a common character of eyranians who feel a certain flow...and try to become hamrang...regardless where it ends up.
Good luck
 

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No Pahlevoon - I meant Idiosyncracy - Idiocy is what you just did.
Then again.....when short in logic - why not play spellchecker,.........that is all you are left with.
BTW - Good luck with your global revolution.....u and yours already fucked up Iran - why not screw the rest of the world.
According to Merriam-Webster, an idiosyncrasy is a peculiarity in characteristic. As such, one either has it or he/she does not.

To say that
Us Iranians have a habit of never apologizing or even akhnowledging our past idiosyncracies!!” (direct quote from your post, misspelling not mine), to speak of our "past idiosyncrasies," is to say that “us Iranians” used to have a peculiarity in our characteristic that we no longer have. That does not seem to be what you meant, judging by the context of your sentence.

But, it’s nevertheless understandable that you would react this way. After all, you DO have the idiosyncrasy to get overly emotional, not worrying about actual facts, using ad hominem in place of logic, and being happy with some approximation of what you really meant as opposed to what you meant.

By the way, what I did was not “spell checking,” it was grammar and logic checking, you know, the stuff that the meaning of a sentence depends on.

Finally, I had no hand in “fucking up” Iran. I was outside of Iran when the revolution happened.

Other than some reading, a cold drink of water from time to time, might do you some good.

Cheers.
 

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Well, I think you really need to look up the word, but it is really not that important - this is not an English class. As for losing it, I wasn't saying that you have lost your mind, but rather lost touch with reality in the sense that you more and more tend to see what you like to see, regardless of other viable alternatives. It was not intended as an insult, but rather a caution, hoping, to use an American cliche, "to snap you out of it", and get you to judge with an open mind rather than a single frame of reference.

As to your question, I think that the majority of people that are victims of the greed of the super wealthy are behind the movement, so to that extent, I would kind of call it a grass roots movement. I don't think there is any conspiracy or a single entity behind it. In the last decade, the greed has taken on new heights and reached a saturation point. Something has to give, and maybe this is the beginning.
 

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Can't help but think back to those days back in late 90's and early 2000...that we'd show up to work just to find out what stock is the " dead bet of the day"...lol..just give me the symbols..Brocade.. Rumbas..whatever.? don't recall anybody complaining about wall Street when "easy money" was being made by mom & pops and everybody...

Actually..to my knowledge Masoud was one of the few among us that stayed off the " Booki joint" and most everybody lost their shorts and then some..(myself included)..

Looking from out here..it just seems natural..that people who have gone thru market bubble and then real estate bubble and everything else which , in fairness, everybody help create and enjoyed while the going was good..and now bitter over everything..that's humanity..

Now..I read somewhere yesterday that U.S. spent some 3.5 Trillion Dollars in the fiscal yr 2011 , ending in september.btw- not a whole lot different than 2010......wooohhhh..that's a lot of money...lets just for comparison sake .look at what Germany spent in 2010..something like 450 Billion Dollars for roughly 80 Million People...and u know ..the stuff u get in Germany ( even with all the cut backs & all ) ..U would not even dream to get it in U.S...not even close....I know.. u r gonna say..military...yep...Germany doesn't have to waste her money in wars.....and ...of course..that's a whole story all by itself.....But ..Americans..IMO..have to decide one of these days how they want to spent the 3.5 trillion dollars..cuz...the rest of the world is lookin' and saying...u fuckin' spoiled a-holes...u do all the shit and then complain about why am I here with nothin' in the richest land of all...it's ur own damn fault...plus..U.S. has done alot of horrible stuff around the world...so ..with everything else...a good Karma may not be on their side..
 

Zob Ahan

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^^^Most people involved in the OWS movement are too young to have "lost their shirt" in the 90s "irrational exuberance".