not sure why this is so hard to explain. taxpayer money went to bailout banks that got into trouble based on their own risky behavior. they are now doing better than ever while the vast majority of taxpayers are doing worse than they have been doing in decades. please flip through this slide show. some of the facts are mind boggling:
http://www.businessinsider.com/fact...nt-been-this-big-since-the-roaring-twenties-1
http://www.businessinsider.com/fact...nt-been-this-big-since-the-roaring-twenties-1
pacheh gereftan kare galeh sageh.......I know leftists love to act as a galeh - but certainly not sags ..... 
eep:
So anyone - do you think the 99% crowd popping up all over the place are just coincidences? Are these just random people suddenly part of the 99% !!?? Did these guys in Palestine and China suddenly realized they are part of the 99%!!!?
I can't believe the lack of wisdom on this site.......very uncharacteristic of Iranians....unless fear plays a role here !!
has to be fear - indeed a common character of eyranians who feel a certain flow...and try to become hamrang...regardless where it ends up.
Good luck
eep:So anyone - do you think the 99% crowd popping up all over the place are just coincidences? Are these just random people suddenly part of the 99% !!?? Did these guys in Palestine and China suddenly realized they are part of the 99%!!!?
I can't believe the lack of wisdom on this site.......very uncharacteristic of Iranians....unless fear plays a role here !!
has to be fear - indeed a common character of eyranians who feel a certain flow...and try to become hamrang...regardless where it ends up.
Good luck
Whatever your wisdom on that question is, you can extend it to this case too.
PN
here is FIRST definition the American Heritage Dictionary provide for the word "idiosyncrasy": "A structural or behavioral characteristic peculiar to an individual or a group".
Amoo Bey - this OWC is a well organized anti USA movement....it has nothing to do with the hardships or loss of wealth.....these are people who had never had wealth to lose......many of them are decent people and recent college graduates who see no future........things here are very different than the time when we graduated.....95% of US college graduates move back and live with their parents these days. My question however (also attention Khorus and Deerouz) was about the arabs, orientals,.......and others who took into the streets in support of the OWC !!! calling themselves the 99% !!! lol don't you see an organization behind this?
There is a global leftist movement fueled by greed (just like the rest of them in the past) and orchestrated by the Northern Europe kingdoms (just like the rest of them in the past) and shall produce the same results it did in the past....
Right now Europe Royals have America by the balls.....they have the White House, and the US Senate....and a ton of influence here........ They have already succeeded to inflict a lot of damage to US international intertests - but they will not win.... mark my words.
Oh - let me make another prediction......
Obama will leave the WH in a few months - handing the country to the conservatives which will include some elements of the far right. As a result of what we see these days, there will certainly be harsh reactions from the far right border line facistic!! that is when people who directly or indirectly are on the payroll of one of hundreds of George Soros entities will have to find a hole in the wall......Natural don't worry, you are safe in Canada as long as you are under the Queen!!! lol just kidding. But seriously....I always wondered how facists materialize and where they come from....now I can see.
here is FIRST definition the American Heritage Dictionary provide for the word "idiosyncrasy": "A structural or behavioral characteristic peculiar to an individual or a group".
Amoo Bey - this OWC is a well organized anti USA movement....it has nothing to do with the hardships or loss of wealth.....these are people who had never had wealth to lose......many of them are decent people and recent college graduates who see no future........things here are very different than the time when we graduated.....95% of US college graduates move back and live with their parents these days. My question however (also attention Khorus and Deerouz) was about the arabs, orientals,.......and others who took into the streets in support of the OWC !!! calling themselves the 99% !!! lol don't you see an organization behind this?
There is a global leftist movement fueled by greed (just like the rest of them in the past) and orchestrated by the Northern Europe kingdoms (just like the rest of them in the past) and shall produce the same results it did in the past....
Right now Europe Royals have America by the balls.....they have the White House, and the US Senate....and a ton of influence here........ They have already succeeded to inflict a lot of damage to US international intertests - but they will not win.... mark my words.
Oh - let me make another prediction......
Obama will leave the WH in a few months - handing the country to the conservatives which will include some elements of the far right. As a result of what we see these days, there will certainly be harsh reactions from the far right border line facistic!! that is when people who directly or indirectly are on the payroll of one of hundreds of George Soros entities will have to find a hole in the wall......Natural don't worry, you are safe in Canada as long as you are under the Queen!!! lol just kidding. But seriously....I always wondered how facists materialize and where they come from....now I can see.
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One more note -
While USA remains the best hope humanity has for freedom and prosperous society - there is a ton that needs to be fixed here - including Banking Regulations, and the Wall Street. However - the solution does not come in the form of an overhaul or revolution.....and certainly not via the goons and the hippies looking for handouts....
The Americans who know what the problem is - know there is a second Tea Party needed. The name is not a coincidence....it is time to give the Royals another kick in the ass.
A side note to khorous:
As you can see, I am making some serious, wild, off-the-wall accusations here.... I have been for years.
There are many unorthodox and certainly radical events going on in the world....some of them can only be defined with equaly radical explanations.....
I don't mind if you come out and say Masoud is losing it because of his radical theories.......but ....What hurt was to see you being impacted by the galeh
While USA remains the best hope humanity has for freedom and prosperous society - there is a ton that needs to be fixed here - including Banking Regulations, and the Wall Street. However - the solution does not come in the form of an overhaul or revolution.....and certainly not via the goons and the hippies looking for handouts....
The Americans who know what the problem is - know there is a second Tea Party needed. The name is not a coincidence....it is time to give the Royals another kick in the ass.
A side note to khorous:
As you can see, I am making some serious, wild, off-the-wall accusations here.... I have been for years.
There are many unorthodox and certainly radical events going on in the world....some of them can only be defined with equaly radical explanations.....
I don't mind if you come out and say Masoud is losing it because of his radical theories.......but ....What hurt was to see you being impacted by the galeh
Golden words by a tea bagger:
Global leftist movement organized by greed............................
Was that Rush or Glenn??????
So F'ing original.
Our small city is going through pre election municipal debates....One of the many candidates, a tea bagger, that is running on anti-public servant agenda and deregulation,used the same wordings describing the attempts of fire fighters to uninonize.......
This guy has the only plumbing/AC service business in the town. During public comment section, a resident displayed an invoice from him. During the heat spree, this senior resident's AC thermostat was malfunctioning. He called this guy. The guy purchased a thermo for $29 from home depot 5 minutes away, charged this senior citizen $85 for material,added labor , mark ups,..... and submitted a bill exceeding $200 for a 10 minute job.....
Talk about greed.....
And he called the attempts to unionize for public safety officers a move driven and sponsored by greed of leftist (socialist) movement!
Real original
Global leftist movement organized by greed............................
Was that Rush or Glenn??????
So F'ing original.
Our small city is going through pre election municipal debates....One of the many candidates, a tea bagger, that is running on anti-public servant agenda and deregulation,used the same wordings describing the attempts of fire fighters to uninonize.......
This guy has the only plumbing/AC service business in the town. During public comment section, a resident displayed an invoice from him. During the heat spree, this senior resident's AC thermostat was malfunctioning. He called this guy. The guy purchased a thermo for $29 from home depot 5 minutes away, charged this senior citizen $85 for material,added labor , mark ups,..... and submitted a bill exceeding $200 for a 10 minute job.....
Talk about greed.....
And he called the attempts to unionize for public safety officers a move driven and sponsored by greed of leftist (socialist) movement!
Real original
Masoud jaan, I have been reading your posts for some time, and I am not easily swayed by popular opinion, in fact I tend to go the opposite way. I usually stand aside and watch the arguments, but I thought to chime in this one time for a couple of reasons. First, your manner of expression has changed noticeably since you started supporting the tea party, and I can see some of that irrational and radical behavior come out in your post, so I wanted to point it out to you, as someone who doesn't hold any animosity toward you, essentially an impartial view. Second, you personally attacked some of my favorite people on this site, and I didn't appreciate that. PN has been on a crusade against the very people that have essentially destroyed this country in the last decade, while #8 has waged media war on the people that are destroying our homeland. BT and Nilu are among the most respected and intelligent of the young people on this site and have taken part on having this site up and running for years. To me, these people are beyond the petty and childish insults and should be treated with utmost respect. So, there is my 2 cents.
On topic, you seem to misunderstand the movement. This isn't a bunch of hippies looking for handouts. It is the middle class like you and me who are tired of being screwed over by the super rich. As someone very eloquently pointed out, our tax money, and by that I mean the average Joe out there, since the likes of GE and BP didn't pay a penny in taxes, saved the very banks from bankruptcy who refuse to restructure people's loans and kicking them out of their houses, while their C*Os take multi-million dollar bonuses and stock holders continue to get dividends and see record profits. This is just plain wrong and nobody is doing anything about it. Look at some of the tax numbers for the top 2% of the population and compare them between now vs. say the 50s and 60s. The very rich are paying only a small fraction of what they used to, so while the rich get richer, the middle class' quality of life degrades, unemployment rises, and corporations continue making record profit while freezing hiring. Something is broken in the system, and the people who run the system have no interest in changing it. This is about as obvious a case for radical action as it gets. You can only whip a work horse so many times before he breaks the rope and turns on you.
On topic, you seem to misunderstand the movement. This isn't a bunch of hippies looking for handouts. It is the middle class like you and me who are tired of being screwed over by the super rich. As someone very eloquently pointed out, our tax money, and by that I mean the average Joe out there, since the likes of GE and BP didn't pay a penny in taxes, saved the very banks from bankruptcy who refuse to restructure people's loans and kicking them out of their houses, while their C*Os take multi-million dollar bonuses and stock holders continue to get dividends and see record profits. This is just plain wrong and nobody is doing anything about it. Look at some of the tax numbers for the top 2% of the population and compare them between now vs. say the 50s and 60s. The very rich are paying only a small fraction of what they used to, so while the rich get richer, the middle class' quality of life degrades, unemployment rises, and corporations continue making record profit while freezing hiring. Something is broken in the system, and the people who run the system have no interest in changing it. This is about as obvious a case for radical action as it gets. You can only whip a work horse so many times before he breaks the rope and turns on you.
Aha, and that's different from what I said exactly how?
Did you spend any more time than looking at the "FIRST definition" of the American Heritage Dictionary to get a clue as to what the word means? Or, as usual, did you rush back here to prove your point, regardless of how idiotic your idiosyncrasy is?
Is there a light beginning to get illuminated in your head yet?
Did you spend any more time than looking at the "FIRST definition" of the American Heritage Dictionary to get a clue as to what the word means? Or, as usual, did you rush back here to prove your point, regardless of how idiotic your idiosyncrasy is?
Is there a light beginning to get illuminated in your head yet?
loool - PN, you must be an akhoondzadeh....roo keh nist....
Dear Khorus - I found it interesting that you failed to respond to the very subject that you originaly had a problem with....
as you can see - the very word idiosyncrasy would perfectlt apply here......just see how PN struggles.....what are the chances he would come out and admit to making a fool of himself.....and others who followed him - what are the chances? about Zero? that was my original point - as a nation we have a pathetic problem of admitting to past stupidities.....a certain idiosynchracy. Now if I mis-spelled anything, I apoplogize in advance.
B-Azar -
Where do you think the revolutions in Russia and the one in France Planned? Same place as the one in Iran was planned........
At least you are asking the right questions...
Dear Khorus - I found it interesting that you failed to respond to the very subject that you originaly had a problem with....
as you can see - the very word idiosyncrasy would perfectlt apply here......just see how PN struggles.....what are the chances he would come out and admit to making a fool of himself.....and others who followed him - what are the chances? about Zero? that was my original point - as a nation we have a pathetic problem of admitting to past stupidities.....a certain idiosynchracy. Now if I mis-spelled anything, I apoplogize in advance.
B-Azar -
Where do you think the revolutions in Russia and the one in France Planned? Same place as the one in Iran was planned........
At least you are asking the right questions...
LOL at asking "right questions"... What question did I ask you????
Masoud, the first "leftist" known (or at least widely recognized) in our history is Marhoom Mazdak who stood up against "mobads" of sasanids. Who do you think (or for that matter Rush thinks) was the sponsor or planner ? Vikings??????
Masoud, the first "leftist" known (or at least widely recognized) in our history is Marhoom Mazdak who stood up against "mobads" of sasanids. Who do you think (or for that matter Rush thinks) was the sponsor or planner ? Vikings??????
So far, you're the one who's acting like an akhund. Think about it (if that is permitted in Tea Bag land), so far most people think you're acting irrationally and you still have enough roo to come back and insist on your Daie Jon Napoleon crap. To me, that is the classic bacheh akhund!
Nope, it appears there is no light to come on
Nope, it appears there is no light to come on
Masoud jon..I agree with u in that all major protests and in that " OWS" is organised by somebody...whether the intention is " anti U.S." ...I don't know..lets see if it goes anywhere or accomplishes anything in the way of meaningful reforms..
Khorus jon...The Crowd is anti Wall Street..?..right..? not just anti Wall St. Bankers....and to that..I'd say..It's sort of emotional.. understandably of course...But, where would Dollar be if U.S. and Wall St. weren't home to likes of Nike's..Apple's..Microsoft.Coca Cola's..etc of this world..?..This crowd as in everyone living in U.S. is in one way or another beneficiary of Wall St... & btw- u should know better...No Business is supposed to hire anyone as a good will..They hire when they see it as necessary for their particular operation...So...what do these people really want..?...Do they actually want a more Socialist system ..and just don't quite know how to say it without all sorts of accusations from left & right..?..How can they say it when the word " socialist " has been misunderstood and made a taboo in U.S...? I'd say that's what they want and afraid to say it out loud..
Khorus jon...The Crowd is anti Wall Street..?..right..? not just anti Wall St. Bankers....and to that..I'd say..It's sort of emotional.. understandably of course...But, where would Dollar be if U.S. and Wall St. weren't home to likes of Nike's..Apple's..Microsoft.Coca Cola's..etc of this world..?..This crowd as in everyone living in U.S. is in one way or another beneficiary of Wall St... & btw- u should know better...No Business is supposed to hire anyone as a good will..They hire when they see it as necessary for their particular operation...So...what do these people really want..?...Do they actually want a more Socialist system ..and just don't quite know how to say it without all sorts of accusations from left & right..?..How can they say it when the word " socialist " has been misunderstood and made a taboo in U.S...? I'd say that's what they want and afraid to say it out loud..
lol at #8...... paddling
I am so proud of BT, Nilou,......and may more who have been exchanging thoughts, ideals and ideas with me and other older crowd here on ISP - in fact I take partial credit for their maturation....even for the likes of Ehsan.
Dear Khorous - In front of every destructive revolution of the past - stood some noble individuals with logical and valid expectations.... As beystr indicated - you are totally misreading what thgis is about and appear fully unaware on the bahind the scenes organization.
I am so proud of BT, Nilou,......and may more who have been exchanging thoughts, ideals and ideas with me and other older crowd here on ISP - in fact I take partial credit for their maturation....even for the likes of Ehsan.
Dear Khorous - In front of every destructive revolution of the past - stood some noble individuals with logical and valid expectations.... As beystr indicated - you are totally misreading what thgis is about and appear fully unaware on the bahind the scenes organization.
Khorous jaan - I neither take nor dish out anything personal on this site......and I do side or differ in views from any member from one topic to another - I don't function as part of a herd. In your case however, because of your age and your status and your past performance, I do value your inputs.......
- As I said, from one thread to another I can agree or disagree with PN on any issues.....when it comes to IR, thank god we are on the same page.
, when did this become about BT or Nilou - This thread is about OWS.......BT called a point I raised about Keyhan and Shariatmadari as a "Pathetic" attempt to attack OWS.....and I responded to him accordingly. however, you are openly admitting (and somewhat paddling) that your attack on me was a result of seeing me attack (in your mind) some of your favorite members......That is what I call herding. In all modesty, I think the first rule in debates is to follow your mind not your heart. Stick with the issues, and we shall all benefit. I think this issue of herding must be taken very seriously - I take your word for not being affected by mob mentality that exists here......we do have a long wayyyys to go to fix it.....but as you may know the first thing leftists tought the kids of our generation was this very mob mentality.
- As I said, from one thread to another I can agree or disagree with PN on any issues.....when it comes to IR, thank god we are on the same page.
, when did this become about BT or Nilou - This thread is about OWS.......BT called a point I raised about Keyhan and Shariatmadari as a "Pathetic" attempt to attack OWS.....and I responded to him accordingly. however, you are openly admitting (and somewhat paddling) that your attack on me was a result of seeing me attack (in your mind) some of your favorite members......That is what I call herding. In all modesty, I think the first rule in debates is to follow your mind not your heart. Stick with the issues, and we shall all benefit. I think this issue of herding must be taken very seriously - I take your word for not being affected by mob mentality that exists here......we do have a long wayyyys to go to fix it.....but as you may know the first thing leftists tought the kids of our generation was this very mob mentality.
Bia daramet -
Humor is the first refuge of the shallow....
BTW - one more comment about Idiosynchrasy....you see this #8 guy? - Just like many others on this site - He will never admit how he supported (or maybe still supports) Khatami, Karoubi, Moussavi ...and how he tried to make them into leaders of Iran's Green Movement. He goes on and calls me bi-adab...as if it would overshadow his deficiencies........
Humor is the first refuge of the shallow....
BTW - one more comment about Idiosynchrasy....you see this #8 guy? - Just like many others on this site - He will never admit how he supported (or maybe still supports) Khatami, Karoubi, Moussavi ...and how he tried to make them into leaders of Iran's Green Movement. He goes on and calls me bi-adab...as if it would overshadow his deficiencies........
