Unification of Iranians around TM

masoudA

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Once again Football is playing a role in unification of Iranians, even thousands of miles outside iran.
This is why the call it the National Team. I don't think the IR mullahs are linking this at all.....
dame irooni haye Australia garm.

[video=youtube_share;82cEXLR9c60]http://youtu.be/82cEXLR9c60[/video]
 

maziar95

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I was really surprised by the large Iranian turnout . I don't think any other Iranian expat community (besides US) could of pulled that off . I read a Australian Article that mentioned about 50k Iranian live there and the game attendance was 17k mostly Iranian. If let's say even 15k Iranians showed up to the game that's a good portion of the Iranian community there but I think 50k is the number of legal residents there is probably another 50k illegal Iranians in Australia.
 
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I was really surprised by the large Iranian turnout . I don't think any other Iranian expat community (besides US) could of pulled that off . I read a Australian Article that mentioned about 50k Iranian live there and the game attendance was 17k mostly Iranian. If let's say even 15k Iranians showed up to the game that's a good portion of the Iranian community there but I think 50k is the number of legal residents there is probably another 50k illegal Iranians in Australia.
There are more than 50k Iranians in Aussie that is for sure ..

Sydney, Melbourne ,Adelaide are major cities with more of Iranian population( mainly in Sydney and Melbourne) but some cities like Brisbane , Perth have also some Iranians
 
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My siblings and parents have got the tickets for the next game. They're attending with a group of 20 people. I guess the Sydney turnout would be even higher than Melbourne. Go TM.
 

masoudA

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Some of it is about football - but I think most of it is relinquishing of lost identity. Most of us Iranians do not identify with the Isamic regime and are left with very little to identify with. Either way it is great to see so many decent Iranians representing the old country and culture.
 
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I was really surprised by the large Iranian turnout . I don't think any other Iranian expat community (besides US) could of pulled that off . I read a Australian Article that mentioned about 50k Iranian live there and the game attendance was 17k mostly Iranian. If let's say even 15k Iranians showed up to the game that's a good portion of the Iranian community there but I think 50k is the number of legal residents there is probably another 50k illegal Iranians in Australia.
dude in 1997 15 000 iranians showed up in toronto for a friendly against Canada. remember it was just a friendly. Me, Real Madrid and Kasra from this forum were there. I am not sure about Babr, i think he was there too maybe.

[video=youtube;VuWCdjPsiCA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuWCdjPsiCA[/video]
 
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dude in 1997 15 000 iranians showed up in toronto for a friendly against Canada. remember it was just a friendly. Me, Real Madrid and Kasra from this forum were there. I am not sure about Babr, i think he was there too maybe.
Good old days , and this was the time Mayeli didn't call Daei for the game ...

Do you remember the woman behind us asking where is Ali Parvin ? :8:

kasra wasn't with us.
 

maziar95

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dude in 1997 15 000 iranians showed up in toronto for a friendly against Canada. remember it was just a friendly. Me, Real Madrid and Kasra from this forum were there. I am not sure about Babr, i think he was there too maybe.

[video=youtube;VuWCdjPsiCA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuWCdjPsiCA[/video]
Yea I remember that I know a lot of people from US going even though there was a TM-US game at the rose bowl just a few months away . You cant compare the attendance or the atmosphere of those games to what we saw just a few days ago. The Iran-US game at the rosebowl had 50k attending mostly Iranians, that will always be the record for the Iranian expat community unless TM shows up in California again.
 

Zob Ahan

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Yea I remember that I know a lot of people from US going even though there was a TM-US game at the rose bowl just a few months away . You cant compare the attendance or the atmosphere of those games to what we saw just a few days ago. The Iran-US game at the rosebowl had 50k attending mostly Iranians, that will always be the record for the Iranian expat community unless TM shows up in California again.

I was at that game. If I remember correctly Tabatabie was the GK.
 

Ali N.

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I was at that game. If I remember correctly Tabatabie was the GK.
It was an amazing week when TM came to US. I spent my whole week with them at their hotels in Oakland, Hilton in Pasadena every night!! What a great time that was... I have pics with all the players of that time. I think we were at least 50k in Rose Bowl in that US-Iran game, some even said around 60k! It was amazing...
 
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And as an Iranian this is the only reason I like us to win each and every game. these people had enough sorrow in the last 40 years so why not being happy even for a short period ....
Na aziz, if they really have sorrow they better go and do something against the real roots of that sorrow. Those guys in australia however dont have any sorrow to deal with. They are a mostly a financially sound bunch, well fed who dont even have a problem to wave the allah o akbar flag (they even willingly prefer it to the real iran flag because they dont want to have problems next time they fly to iran), they wear the IR jersey and cheer up players who seem to wholeheartedly try to top eachother in singing the ey emam song to impress the authorities. All in all, the bunch we see in australia, europe or north america is a real alaki khosh bunch who never dealt with real sorrow and just use such occasions to show off a little bit.

Thos who really had to do with sorrow are those in iran and there i suggest you go and take a taxi from meydoon shemroon to meydoon fooziyeh and talk to drivers and other people and start showing the same enthusiasm as some of our people show here and they look at you as if you are from mars because they have to do with so much hardship, they have so many vital and essential problems that they simply dont care the way a lot of iranians in abroad do. In a country like iran with two big peoples clubs, PP and SS get barely 50 000 people into ariamehr. It used to be around 110 000 and a lot of people didnt even find access and and had to keep out. The level of interest is decreasing fast and its absolutely understandable.

And the thread title...lol, what can i say? United? loool...we have so many other and by far more important issues where we need to be united and we arent. What kind of unity is that? Bunch of alaki khoshs dancing waving alah o akbar flags? These games are over in a week or two. What then? Back to sorrow and bechaap bechaape hamdige? :)
 
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Once again Football is playing a role in unification of Iranians, even thousands of miles outside iran.
This is why the call it the National Team. I don't think the IR mullahs are linking this at all.....
dame irooni haye Australia garm.
While, I generally agree with your assessment about the effect of TM on unifying Iranians of all types, , the laws of statistics dictate that there will always be outliers.:)
 
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Yea I remember that I know a lot of people from US going even though there was a TM-US game at the rose bowl just a few months away . You cant compare the attendance or the atmosphere of those games to what we saw just a few days ago. The Iran-US game at the rosebowl had 50k attending mostly Iranians, that will always be the record for the Iranian expat community unless TM shows up in California again.
Maziar jan: The US-Canada game was in August of 1997. The US-Iran game was January 2000. Not exactly a few months later. But I do agree with your point. I was at both games, also at the Iran-Mexico game in Oakland, and you are right, the atmosphere at both California games were amazing. The Iran-Mexico game had a fair number of Mexicans, but the US-Iran game was overwhelmingly Iranian.

I wish TM would visit US again. Hopefully soon.....
 
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dude in 1997 15 000 iranians showed up in toronto for a friendly against Canada. remember it was just a friendly. Me, Real Madrid and Kasra from this forum were there. I am not sure about Babr, i think he was there too maybe.

[video=youtube;VuWCdjPsiCA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuWCdjPsiCA[/video]
I wasn't there keyvan jan , couldn't make it ..
 

maziar95

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Maziar jan: The US-Canada game was in August of 1997. The US-Iran game was January 2000. Not exactly a few months later. But I do agree with your point. I was at both games, also at the Iran-Mexico game in Oakland, and you are right, the atmosphere at both California games were amazing. The Iran-Mexico game had a fair number of Mexicans, but the US-Iran game was overwhelmingly Iranian.

I wish TM would visit US again. Hopefully soon.....
You are right about 1997 TM also played Canada in June 1999 "Canada Cup" and a few months later was the US-Iran game.
 
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maziar95

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good articlee

As Reza watched the four-metre-high waves crashing down on the boat, he didn’t believe he would ever make it to Australia. Even if he did, he had no guarantee he would be allowed to stay.

Wanted by the Iranian government for protesting for economic equality in impoverished regions in the south-west of the country, Reza felt he had no choice but to flee. As wave after wave crashed against the small fishing boat in the pitch black of night, fear punctuated Reza’s worries about his future and thoughts of the life he had left behind. “I was so scared. The waves at night, they came four or five metres up both sides of the boat and then it went over the top,” says Reza, whose full name has not been published at his request. “But luckily I made it.” Today, three years after that dangerous voyage to Australia from Indonesia, there are only two things Reza misses about his homeland. Family is one; the Iranian national football team is the other Reza describes himself as a proud Persian. He shares the local community’s passion for their homeland, culture and identity, despite being at ideological loggerheads with the present regime. He says he has little chance of returning home and opportunities to show national pride are rare, which is why supporting “Team Melli” is so important to him. “What does Team Melli mean to me? Everything. I love it. It is my identity,” Reza says. So, despite his disdain for the government, Reza will be proudly waving the flag of Iran inside ANZ Stadium on Thursday night. Reza’s story highlights why Iran are proving to be one of the hottest tickets in town for the Asian Cup, with more than 25,000 fans expected to turn out for Thursday’s match against Qatar. It is not just because they are the highest-ranked team in Asia or that they are among the favourites to win the Cup, but also because the Iranian-Persian community regards Team Melli as a symbol that breaks down cultural and political divides. Inside the stadium, three national flags will be waved – one with the emblem of the present Islamic Republic, another with the historic lion and sun of Persia, and the three-coloured former national flag. All three reflect the divide that prompts nationals to refer to themselves as “Persians” or “Iranians” based on their political orientation. The two sects say they rarely mix in Australia, but inside a stadium they stand together. Football is a game of the people in Iran. A team drawn almost entirely from the working class led the nation to an Asian Cup title in its first attempt in 1968, before two more crowns were added in succession in 1972 and 1976. Football overtook wrestling as the predominant sport. “They had low-profile families and most of the Iranians were working class,” Iran-Australia Football Association president Alireza Ehsani says. “They raise from these backgrounds, and that is why we love our national team players.” Both sides of Iran’s political spectrum love the storyline of their national team’s success, struggles and resurgence. Such is football’s popularity in Iran that the sport has been used as a tool by both the Shah and the Ayatollah. One of the country’s biggest clubs, Taj (crown), was renamed Esteghlal (Independence) after the 1979 revolution and, despite the change, its fanbase remained. Those from Iran say there is a sense of pride in their football sides that transcends social and political splits. Australian footballer Aram Tayebi was called up to Team Melli’s youth team in 2008 and experienced the passion for himself when 10,000 turned out just to watch an unofficial friendly match. “Iranians may believe in different political ideologies but this is Team Melli. Just the name gives it away – the national team,” Tayebi says. Ali Moubasseri, a Persian-Australian, is travelling around the country to follow Iran at the Asian Cup. He says Team Melli gives members of a community who can’t return to their homeland for political reasons the chance to celebrate their identity. “Most of my family friends say they can’t go back to Iran. My dad says he can’t go back to Iran. I know some of my family members have served some jail time or have been harassed because of the revolutionary police,” he says. “There’s always going to be massive divides in the Persian community due to what happened in 1979, but when football comes around, we don’t care about our differences.” In a tournament holding a message of “Unite for the Asian Cup”, Team Melli is doing just that, with Persians and Iranians standing together inside ANZ Stadium, showing football’s power to bridge the cultural divide. “I will be there because it is very important for me to show that I am Iranian – that I am Persian,” Reza says. “It is very important for me to see them for the first time in three years.” - See more at: http://iransportspress.com/team-melli-uniting-divided-iran-at-asian-cup/#sthash.C4DCwtKt.dpuf