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The End of Trump?
Rupert Murdoch may have pulled the plug on him for 2024, but it’s not clear yet if the rest of the G.O.P. will follow.

“Is losing really a bigger sin for Republicans than harassing women, blackmailing foreign leaders, or seeking to remain in power by calling forth an angry mob to attack Congress?”




Donald Trump is running again for President in 2024, as he announced from Mar-a-Lago last night, but some Republicans who were his biggest supporters are all but rejecting him this time around. In particular, platforms like Fox News and the New York Post, which once buttressed Trump and his false claims, have made a nearly hundred-and-eighty-degree turn. “Election denial, as the midterm results have just shown, is not a political winner,” Susan B. Glasser writes, and, since last week’s elections, “the Murdoch media empire has embarked on a remarkable we-told-you-so campaign hitting Trump.” But a divided Republican Party is exactly what brought Trump to power—should we assume this time will be different? As Glasser asks, “Is losing really a bigger sin for Republicans than harassing women, blackmailing foreign leaders, or seeking to remain in power by calling forth an angry mob to attack Congress?” It’s a chilling question.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/lett...70&esrc=growl2-regGate-0521&mbid=CRMNYR012019
 

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It will be one major shitshow in 2024.. lmao


The week since the midterm elections has underscored an important but often overlooked fact about Trump: it was the Republican Party that made him President and it will be only the Republican Party that can kill him off politically. General-election voters—that is, Democrats and independents—have made clear over multiple elections what they think of Trump. They don’t like him. Never have, never will. He’s lost the popular vote twice, by millions. He’s dragged down candidates in the 2018 midterms, the 2020 general election, and now in the 2022 midterms. It’s the G.O.P. that has continued to support and enable him. In primaries this year, Republican voters repeatedly chose Trump-anointed, election-denying extremists in competitive primaries as their nominees—flawed candidates such as Mehmet Oz, in Pennsylvania, and Herschel Walker, in Georgia, who came up short where their more conventional Republican opponents might not have. And Republican officials, including Trump skeptics like Mitch McConnell, then went ahead and endorsed those Trumpian nominees anyway, and spent millions of dollars promoting their candidacies. Trump led Republicans down the path of electoral folly; they didn’t have to follow.

Sure, there are some reassuring signs that self-preservation, if nothing else, might finally cause Republicans to forgo the chance at another four years of Trump. But a divided Republican Party is actually very much in Trump’s interest right now. It’s exactly how he came to power in the first place, beating out a field of seventeen other G.O.P. candidates in the 2016 primaries. They did not unite behind a single rival to defeat Trump then, nor are they likely to do so now. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis—already anointed “Ron DeSanctimonious” by Trump—is being set up as Trump’s logical successor, a sort of Trump without the baggage. Polls since the midterms suggest DeSantis has gained ground with Republican primary voters beyond his home state. But Trump remains the clear leader in national surveys—including a new Politico/Morning Consult poll out on Tuesday, which had Trump leading DeSantis, forty-seven per cent to his thirty-three per cent. And there will be plenty of other Republicans who run, once again setting up a situation in which the anti-Trump vote is splintered. Pence, in book-tour mode, gave every appearance of running. Even Mike Pompeo, the former Secretary of State who was Pence’s rival in Trump-era obsequiousness, said on Tuesday that he would not step aside just because Trump is officially in the race.
 

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My only hope for iranian diaspora is to not get engaged in these things. Screw democrat and republican - one is in bed with NIAC and the other one talks about bombing our cultural sites.

Screw both of them.
Unfort still biggest politics powerhouse and election event of the world we live in. Sadly Trump has semi decent chances though losing popular votes twice.
 

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The 2022 G20, wealthiest nations. Bali summit was the seventeenth meeting of Group of Twenty (G20), which was held in Nusa Dua, Bali, Indonesia on 15–16 November 2022.

BRICS (brasil russia india china south africa AKA 3 billions people ) vs G7 (Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United Kingdom, and the United States, a narrow slice of world population) and Covid economical recovery

Leaders (G20) concluded a two-day summit on the Indonesian island of Bali on Wednesday deploring Russia's aggression in Ukraine "in the strongest terms", among other highlights. https://www.reuters.com/world/key-takeaways-g20-summit-bali-2022-11-16/

The theme of this year's G20 Summit is "Recover Together, Recover Stronger." The protracted COVID-19 pandemic has put the economic recovery of all countries to a severe test. “Recover Together” is against the backdrop of post-Covid economic crises and disruptions in global production value chains, made worse by the Ukraine war which has created serious food and energy insecurity.

wire magazine article

The G20 Claims it Wants to 'Recover Together' – But Does it Really?
The developed economies are largely inwardly focused and have little inclination to think about the impact of their macroeconomic policies on the developing world.



The G20 is often described as a talk shop which is long on intent but short on actionable details. Intent is reflected in the opening lines of its joint communique: “As large economies, we collectively carry responsibilities and … our cooperation was necessary to global economic recovery… and [we must] lay a foundation for strong, sustainable, balanced, and inclusive growth.”
The G20 economies represent 80% of global GDP, 75% of international trade and 60% of the world population. It is therefore a premier forum for global economic cooperation. The theme of the Bali G20 meet under Indonesia’s presidency is “Recover Together, Recover Stronger”.


The developed economies are largely inwardly focused and have little inclination to think about the impact of their macroeconomic policies on the developing world. So where is the element of togetherness in the global recovery mechanism?
Policy in the US, the world’s largest economy, is inwardly focused on taming inflation at any cost by aggressively raising interest rates. It has imposed heavy costs on developing economies, whose currencies are losing value rapidly, making it ever more costly to import food and energy. The food and energy crisis is aggravated by the constant appreciation of the dollar against the currencies of developing nations, which are net importers of energy.
Some US analysts call for extraordinary measures ― market interventions to stem the rise of the dollar beyond a point. This might provide some relief to the developing economies which could recover faster, thus lifting global growth, it was argued.

The rising US dollar and costlier energy imports have put even India’s macroeconomic situation at risk by drastically increasing the current account deficit to over 3% of GDP. For the first time in decades, India will see a large negative balance of payments for 2022-23.

The larger point is that the US and strong EU economies have a very high per capita income base. So if they adjust their policy to enable the low and middle income countries to recover quickly, then the G20 slogan of “Recover Together, Recover Stronger” might hold good.
The communique talks about enabling greater capital flows and trade, but the IMF has forecast GDP growth and global trade to decelerate sharply in 2023. All the macroeconomic strategies of the developed world, including the aggressively hawkish monetary stance of the US, are leading to one destination ― a sharp slowdown or mild recession. In such a situation, developing economies, which do not have an adequate social security net, will be hit hardest. The G20 Presidency is coming to India in the most challenging of times.

In 2008, after the global financial crises, the G20 did recover together because it was easier to get every country to loosen its fiscal and monetary policies. But today, macroeconomic coordination is far more challenging because every economy is under pressure to tighten fiscal and monetary policies, which were loosened a lot during the Covid crisis. The policy direction is opposite to what we saw after the 2008 global financial crisis.

If most G20 economies are tightening up, a sharp global economic slowdown and a lot of pain must ensue. Under India’s stewardship, G20 will have to discuss how this policy of hard landing, especially in the US and EU, can be calibrated to minimise damage to the poor nations. It’s a bumpy road ahead.

Thanks to US, Sounds like a few countries are fucked in process. A while back I noted like how 5 countries are totally bankrupt, soon add IRAN to it too.
 

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It is interestanig to know many Iranians in US that support women rights in Iran vote for extremists religious conservaties that are against women right in US.
A double standard.
Never understood GOP Iranians but then again Dems are very close behind them in terms of general policies.
 
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Unfort still biggest politics powerhouse and election event of the world we live in. Sadly Trump has semi decent chances though losing popular votes twice.
I agree with you, but tired of iranian origin folk who are hardcore on one side, Republican or Democrat, whilst ignoring, sidestepping or excusing bloodshed in Iran
 
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For example the right of women to their bodies and feminism. Even in IRI there is less restrictions in abortion than many States in US that US Supreme Court restricted. US Supreme Court is under influence of Christian Conservatism.
IRI also curbed or make it extremely difficult for abortion reading from headlines within the past year.
 

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It is interestanig to know many Iranians in US that support women rights in Iran vote for extremists religious conservaties that are against women right in US.
A double standard.
The two are really not comparable. Iranian women don't have a fraction of the rights and freedoms that Republicans believe in.

As for abortion, it's far more complex than just "right of women over her body". It's also about the right of the unborn and other issues.
 

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The two are really not comparable. Iranian women don't have a fraction of the rights and freedoms that Republicans believe in.

As for abortion, it's far more complex than just "right of women over her body". It's also about the right of the unborn and other issues.
There is no Mother’s right in Supreme Court ruling. Even the Dr says abortion should be done based on danger to life of the woman or the woman was raped. It is based on religion of Christianity. These rules were approved by Supreme Court recently and with a backward ruling. Many women in US travel to out of country or state to get abortion.
 
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Republican vs Democrat, Chap vs rast debate of US, European politics divides the Iranians and iranian origin overseas.

Obviously we are not as important as iranians in iran, but still important to show unity and support whatever we think about local politics

Getting into these things at the current time doesn't yield benefits for anyone. just my humble opinion,
 
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Republican vs Democrat, Chap vs rast debate of US, European politics divides the Iranians and iranian origin overseas.

Obviously we are not as important as iranians in iran, but still important to show unity and support whatever we think about local politics

Getting into these things at the current time doesn't yield benefits for anyone. just my humble opinion,
Having a cordial exchange is definitely something all hamvatan can learn from. People have opinions and they're not same, they learn by exchanges when someone critics their view.

I add this part, they learn if they're open-minded.
 
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Having a cordial exchange is definitely something all hamvatan can learn from. People have opinions and they're not same, they learn by exchanges when someone critics their view.
That's a very good point.

I'm just worried now that everyone is on edge, and that little things can escalate into people losing unity with each other.

But you are right
 

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There is no Mother’s right in Supreme Court ruling. Even the Dr says abortion should be done based on danger to life of the woman or the woman was raped. It is based on religion of Christianity. These rules were approved by Supreme Court recently and with a backward ruling. Many women in US travel to out of country or state to get abortion.
Many good points were already raised, I would add that abortion cannot possibly be a “right” of a woman, since it involves another human being that cannot defend itself, one would hope that it need not defence against its own parent, and regardless of the circumstances of the conception, still half of it is from the mother and the argument that it could grow to be the next genius, etc. All of that said, the bottom line is that abortion should not be politicized as a popularity contest to gain more votes. It should be an ethical, spiritual and medical decision, and a very weighty one that must be taken very seriously. Until humanity reaches a level of maturity, it will struggle with this decision.

In general, identity politics are not useful and are very similar to what the Islamic republic does and assumes every Iranian to be a Muslim of the same variety they are. It is actually quite ironic that for instance in the U.S the democrats who were pro-slavery, somehow have ended up assigning to themselves, by the help of identity-politics-loving media, defenders of minorities. People’s memory is very short it seems and no one asks the real tough questions about human rights, foreign policies, economics and taxes, government size and spending, etc. Of course these are the problems of partisan politics that are very divisive, and until there is more unifying way and form of governance, it’s best just to vote based on one’s conscience.

As for Iranians and the Democratic Party, one must not discount the Carter effect who most freedom-loving Iranians find at least partially responsible for the formation of Islamic republic, and then later Obama for prolonging its existence.