4 Mordad: Reza Shah passed away 69 years ago today/tomorrow

IranZamin

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اوخ اوخ پس اسم اشرف و شمس هم به خاطر همون عشق امام رضا بود که ميگفتی؟:) رفقای امام رضا
اشرف صداش ميکردن؟

کشف حجاب چی؟ نکنه اونم به عشق امام رضا بود؟
:)

برو بدبخت آخوند. برو خدا رو شکر کن که هميشه دو تا مشنگ اينجا پيدا ميشن وانمود کنن تو آدمی
 
May 9, 2004
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اوخ اوخ پس اسم اشرف و شمس هم به خاطر همون عشق امام رضا بود که ميگفتی؟:) رفقای امام رضا
اشرف صداش ميکردن؟

کشف حجاب چی؟ نکنه اونم به عشق امام رضا بود؟
:)

برو بدبخت آخوند. برو خدا رو شکر کن که هميشه دو تا مشنگ اينجا پيدا ميشن وانمود کنن تو آدمی
نه جناب
مزه نریز
اسامی دختران رضا شاه شمس و اشرف عربی است
و اسم دختر دیگرش هم فاطمه است
در صورتی که اسم مادر رضا شاه نوش افرین بوده یعنی نمی توانست اسم یکی از دخترانش را به اسم مادرش نوش افرین بگذارد ؟
در مورد کشف حجاب هم در همین ترید توضیح دادم
که زنان بخاطر حجاب به مدرسه نمیرفتند رضا شاه با این کار می خواست این تابو را از بین ببرد و می بینیم در اواخر و دوران پسرش اصلا کاری به حجاب ندارند
وقتی چیزی سرت نمی شود بیخودی فتوا نده
وقتی به کسری میگی مشنگ معلومه تا چه اندازه نفهم و نادان تشریف داری
 

kasra1930

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ایران زمین عزیز،بنظرم بهتر است بدون هیچ تعصبی انسان به مسائل نگاه کند.با توهین و فحش و فحش کاری هیچی*** درست نمی***شود.بیائید فرض بگیریم،جناب تیمسار،اصلا آقای لاجوردی یا خلخالیست،یا اصلا،منفورترین شخص در ایران(با عرض معذرت از تیمسار).خوب،اینطور که ایشان بیان می***کند،مشخص میشود که انسان با معلومات و فرهیخته آای می***باشد،اصلا کاملا مشخص است که کتاب خونده است،آنقدر به خود مطمئن است،که دارد همینطور جوابهای من و شما را پشت سر هم میدهد،و در هر جوابی*** که میدهد یک دلیلی*** دارد.خود من طرفدار رضا شاه هستم،چرا که او را پدر مدرنیسم،و اقای ایران می***دانم،روی همین اصل برای این مرد بزرگ ایران زمین بسیار اهمیت و احترام قائل هستم.

من هم همچون شما میخواهم جناب تیمسار را به چالش بکشم،و دوست دارم که ایشان را محکوم کنم،خوب،وقتی*** ایشان حرفی*** میزنند،که بر خلاف نظر من و سرکار می***باشد،باید با دلیل و مدرک جواب ایشان را بدهیم.ایشان می***گویند که رضا شاه انسان خوبی*** بوده است،ولی*** در عین حال دیکتاتور بوده است،خوب حالا بدون توهین،باید به ایشان ثابت کنیم،که نه رضا شاه دیکتاتور نبوده است،حقیقتش من سوادم به اندازه ایشان نیست تا جواب ایشان را در این زمینه بدهم،از شما خواهش می***کنم با دلیل و مدرک،و نه با توهین،جواب ایشان را بدهید.ما در این سایت از یک دیگر چیز یاد میگیریم حتا اگر اون شخص،دشمن ما باشد.هر انسانی*** میتواند خطا کار باشد،و ضعف در یک قسمتی*** داشته باشد،همچون من و شما.حالا یک نفر پیدا شده،با معلوماتی که دارد،و کتاب هأی که خوانده است،انسان بسیار اگاهی است،من نمی***خواهم ایشان را دانشمند خطاب کنم،چرا که امثال دوستان عزیزی چون شما،ممکن***است من را به تبانی با ایشان،و یا جاسوس یا هرچی*** دیگر خطاب کنید،اما قبول کنیم با انسان گردن کلفتی*** از جهت معلومات طرف هستیم،خوب حالا یا باید با فحش و ناسزا جواب ایشان را بدهیم،چرا که زورمان نمیرسد،یا با دلیل.ایشان از نظر من حرف درستی*** در باره اسم رضا،و اقتباس آن*** در باره بچه***هایش میزند،برایم بسیار جالب بود چرا که تا به حال به این فکر نکرده بودم،حالا من و شما مخالف حرف ایشان هستیم،خوب با دلیل سعی*** کنیم ایشان را محکوم کنیم،اگر شما با دلیل ایشان را محکوم کنید ،من هم خوش حال میشوم ،اما اگر نتوانستیم،حداقل باید از ایشان سپاس گذار باشیم که یک چیزی یاد من و شما دا
د.
 

IranZamin

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Feb 17, 2006
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Aghaye "Kasra" shoma dorost mifarmaiid:) lotfan az ghole man be "Nyalavolta" ke aslan khode shoma nabood ham salam beresanid:)

bale janam. motshakeram.
 
May 9, 2004
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ایران زمین عزیز،بنظرم بهتر است بدون هیچ تعصبی انسان به مسائل نگاه کند.با توهین و فحش و فحش کاری هیچی*** درست نمی***شود.بیائید فرض بگیریم،جناب تیمسار،اصلا آقای لاجوردی یا خلخالیست،یا اصلا،منفورترین شخص در ایران(با عرض معذرت از تیمسار).خوب،اینطور که ایشان بیان می***کند،مشخص میشود که انسان با معلومات و فرهیخته آای می***باشد،اصلا کاملا مشخص است که کتاب خونده است،آنقدر به خود مطمئن است،که دارد همینطور جوابهای من و شما را پشت سر هم میدهد،و در هر جوابی*** که میدهد یک دلیلی*** دارد.خود من طرفدار رضا شاه هستم،چرا که او را پدر مدرنیسم،و اقای ایران می***دانم،روی همین اصل برای این مرد بزرگ ایران زمین بسیار اهمیت و احترام قائل هستم.

من هم همچون شما میخواهم جناب تیمسار را به چالش بکشم،و دوست دارم که ایشان را محکوم کنم،خوب،وقتی*** ایشان حرفی*** میزنند،که بر خلاف نظر من و سرکار می***باشد،باید با دلیل و مدرک جواب ایشان را بدهیم.ایشان می***گویند که رضا شاه انسان خوبی*** بوده است،ولی*** در عین حال دیکتاتور بوده است،خوب حالا بدون توهین،باید به ایشان ثابت کنیم،که نه رضا شاه دیکتاتور نبوده است،حقیقتش من سوادم به اندازه ایشان نیست تا جواب ایشان را در این زمینه بدهم،از شما خواهش می***کنم با دلیل و مدرک،و نه با توهین،جواب ایشان را بدهید.ما در این سایت از یک دیگر چیز یاد میگیریم حتا اگر اون شخص،دشمن ما باشد.هر انسانی*** میتواند خطا کار باشد،و ضعف در یک قسمتی*** داشته باشد،همچون من و شما.حالا یک نفر پیدا شده،با معلوماتی که دارد،و کتاب هأی که خوانده است،انسان بسیار اگاهی است،من نمی***خواهم ایشان را دانشمند خطاب کنم،چرا که امثال دوستان عزیزی چون شما،ممکن***است من را به تبانی با ایشان،و یا جاسوس یا هرچی*** دیگر خطاب کنید،اما قبول کنیم با انسان گردن کلفتی*** از جهت معلومات طرف هستیم،خوب حالا یا باید با فحش و ناسزا جواب ایشان را بدهیم،چرا که زورمان نمیرسد،یا با دلیل.ایشان از نظر من حرف درستی*** در باره اسم رضا،و اقتباس آن*** در باره بچه***هایش میزند،برایم بسیار جالب بود چرا که تا به حال به این فکر نکرده بودم،حالا من و شما مخالف حرف ایشان هستیم،خوب با دلیل سعی*** کنیم ایشان را محکوم کنیم،اگر شما با دلیل ایشان را محکوم کنید ،من هم خوش حال میشوم ،اما اگر نتوانستیم،حداقل باید از ایشان سپاس گذار باشیم که یک چیزی یاد من و شما دا
د.
کسری جان
نوکرتم با کی بحث می کنی
بفرما این هم جواب ایشان
امده می گوید برو سلام نمی دانم کی را برسان و یک مشت حرف بیخود
بدبختی ما این است که این نوع افراد قشر تحصیل کرده و فرنگ رفته مملکت هم هستند که می بایستی مملکت را بسازند
با یک دهاتی بحث کنی دو تا بیل هوا هوا می کند اخر کار می نشیند و حرف حساب را گوش می کند
این باباحرف منطقی هم بزنی می خواهد بزور یه چیزی بگه که ثابت کنه حرف خودش درست است
می گویم رضا شاه اسم بچه هایش همه احمد محمد علی و فاطمه بوده
می گوید بیسواد رضا شاه بخاطر این اسامی بچه هایش را فاطمه و رضا و محمد و علی گذاشته چون می خواسته ترکیبی از اسم خودش باشد
حتما اسم فاطمه و شمس و اشرف را هم که گذاشته می خواسته ترکیب شیمیایی که بین اسم پسران و خودش بوده خراب نشود
:monster:
شما اگر زندگینامه رضا شاه را مطالعه کنید می بینید که ایشان در دسته های عزاداری فعالیت زیادی داشته
واقعا از ته دل در عاشورا شرکت می کرده
ولی در همان زمان اعتقاد زیادی به جدایی دین از سیاست داشته
این به دهان بعضی ها خوش نمیاید که رضا شاه عزاداری می کرده و حسینیه راه می انداخته و پسرش قسم می خورد که حضرت عباس خودش او را چند بار از مرگ حتمی نجات داده
به دهان اقایان خوش نمی اید
پس می بایستی تاریخ را عوض کرد رضا شاه را در قالب این اقایون پیاده کرد تا خوششان بیاید
درست مثل انشتین که می بینیم در چندین و چند قالب ریخته شده یکجا یهودی یکجا دئیست یکجا اگنوستیک یکجا شیعه دوازه امامی
می شود
شما نگاه کن ببین الان همین سیسی تقریبا از نظر عقیدتی مثل رضا شاه است
دشمن سر سخت اخوندهاست بیست هزار نفر از اخوان المسلمین را در عرض چند ماه انداخته زندان که رضا شاه حتی این کار را هم نکرد
ریش تراشی در ارتش شروع شده
صدها حکم اعدام در مورد اسلامگرایان
ولی به قول خودش فرستاده خدا است و پیامبر خدا از او راضی
یا قذافی که چشم اسلامگرایان را نداشت و از اخوند شیعه گرفته تا سنی را کشت و انداخت زندان
ولی امام جماعت میشد و نماز بر پا می کرد
خوب یک سیاسی که اعتقاد راسخی در مورد جدایی دین از سیاست داشته در زمانی که دین به سیاست چسبیده بوده به حکم می رسد حتما اخوندها را کنار می زند
چنانکه خیلی از سکولارها رو هم کنار زد هم قطارانش را هم کنار زد
ولی رضا شاه باید اتئیست بشود چون من اتئیست هستم
باید زرتشتی بشود چون من زرتشتی هستم
باید نمی دانم کمونیست شیعه سنی بشود چون من اینطور می خواهم
کاری به تاریخ به اسناد به دلایل نداریم
اگر کسی هم دلیل محکمه پسندی اورد توهین می کنیم و بلانسبت کس و شعر می نویسیم


بله جانم
 

kasra1930

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دوستان عزیز،متأسفانه،ما هنوز دنبال قهرمان هستیم،یعنی*** یکی*** را دوست میداریم یا خدایگان میشود،و یا ایشان را در کره ماه میبینیم،شاید هم تار مویش را لای قر آن***. هنوز هم وقتی*** با چیزی مخالفت می***کنیم،سعی*** می***کنیم،هرچی*** فحش و بد و بیراست نثار دیگری کنیم،بدون اینکه زحمت مطالعه را به خود بدهیم.در اینکه دوستان عزیز،رضا شاه و شاه فقید را خدمت گذار ایران مینامند،شکی نیست،ولی*** باید بپذیرید که امثال کارهای اینها نیز تاثیر کمی*** در انقلاب نداشت.

شما این عکس مشمئز کننده را نگاه کنید،واقعا تاسف بار است،یک تیمسار ارتش با این همه سنّ،مدال،دستک،و پستک،تا کمر ***خم شده،و دست یک پسر ده ساله که هنوز ولش میکردی تنبانش را خیس میکرد،را میبوسد. ایراد به آقای رضا پهلوی نیست چرا که در این عکس دهان ایشان بوی شیر میداد،ایراد از اون پدر و مادریست که با دیدن این عکس،لذت سر شار می***بردند،و ***خم به ابرو نمی***آوردند .خوب وقتی*** این پسر ده ساله که هنوز دندان شیریش نیفتاده بود را از الان،اینطور چپ و راستش می***کنید،وقتی*** این آقا ۱۸ سالش میشود ،می***خواهد که سر شما را ببرد.وای به اون روزی که در سنّ ۱۹ سالگی دستش را نمیبوسیدید،اون***وقت همچون پدر گرامیش،یک لگد در کون این و آن*** میزد.

اشکال کار از اینجا بود که جناب خدایگان،قبلهٔ عالم،در یک مصاحبهٔ مطبوعاتی گفت،مملکت فقط یک حزب دارد،اونهم رستاخیز،هر کس هم نخواهد،پاسپورتش را بگیرد و از این مملکت برود،بقول معاش قاسم،پنداری که مملکت ارث پدریش است،بابا این مملکت مال ۳۰ میلیون ایرانی*** بود،اینها هم سوار این ۳۰ میلیون بودند.

مردم،درست است که اشتباه کردند،ولی*** اگر به اون روزها دوباره برگردید،میتوانید حدس بزنید که انقلاب این مردمی که شب و روز تلویزیون را باز میکردند،و شاهد بوسیدن دست این پسر بچه ۱۰ ساله بودند،و،به پدرش،خدایگان،سایه خدا،از امثال این چیزها میگفتند چرا انقلاب کردند.
 

parham79

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As much as I respect the shah and all he did for iran(which was incredible) I hate this dast boosi nonsense.I feel it I beneath any humanbeing to resort to such a thing especially a LT General to be kissing a young 10 year old I don't care if he is a crown prince.You can bow to the king, but kissing his feet or hand is really not good.l it was all this chaploosi stuff and keeping things from the shah who was working day and night t make iran into super power which is exactly why we are in this mess.
 
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ChaharMahal

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it was all this chaploosi stuff and keeping things from the shah who was working day and night t make iran into super power which is exactly why we are in this mess.
احتیاجی نبود ایشان کاری بکنند
میشستند کنار در کاخ
میگذاشتند نمایندگان
آزاد مردم مملکت را اراده
کنند.
 

parham79

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Like who?. Roshan feker haye vaghet had turned their back on the system and were even supporting chereek hayee terrorist who were being trained by ghadafee and in the PLO camps.Back then shah's opponents did not want reform, they wanted to overthrow the monarchy at all costs.How many times in the 60's he reached out even after the 61 and 62 went the roshn kefers supporting khomenies failed coupe? It takes two to tango.Even Millani confirmed this as did Driush homayoun. Shah reached out in 1974 again to the roshan fekers and they rejected him again despite the progress the country was making.In 1978 only marhoom Dr Sedighi(mosadeghs cabinet member) who told the shah i will takeover only if you stay and allow and control the army to support me and shadravan Bakhtiyar tried as well..The rest of them were in khomeny's backpocket.Back then it there was no reformis, it was armed opposition.We all know about the killer Yazdi and his henchmen khalkhali as well.
 
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Chinaski

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خوب حالا این مرتيکه پست فطرت بی کس وکار ایران زمین، همون اشغال فرصت طلبی نیست که هر دفعه بنده رو بن میکنن میاد شروع میکنه وق وق کردن که از آب گل آلود ماهی بگیره؟ آخه این موجود رو اصلا میشه بهش گفت آدم؟
 

ChaharMahal

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Oct 18, 2002
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Like who?. Roshan feker haye vaghet had turned their back on the system and were even supporting chereek hayee terrorist who were being trained by ghadafee and in the PLO camps.Back then shah's opponents did not want reform, they wanted to overthrow the monarchy at all costs.How many times in the 60's he reached out even after the 61 and 62 went the roshn kefers supporting khomenies failed coupe? It takes two to tango.Even Millani confirmed this as did Driush homayoun. Shah reached out in 1974 again to the roshan fekers and they rejected him again despite the progress the country was making.In 1978 only marhoom Dr Sedighi(mosadeghs cabinet member) who told the shah i will takeover only if you stay and allow and control the army to support me and shadravan Bakhtiyar tried as well..The rest of them were in khomeny's backpocket.Back then it there was no reformis, it was armed opposition.We all know about the killer Yazdi and his henchmen khalkhali as well.
اولا احتیاجی نبود ایشان به کسی تعارف بزنند
اجازه میدادن افرادی که مورد تایید شخص خدشون نبودند وساواک نبودند بیایند در مجلس

همین دکتر صدیقی که شما میگویید یا خانه نشین بود یا زندان بود
هیمن دکتر بختیار چپ و راست زندان بود
ما دو تا کلا نماینده داشتیم در مجلس که حرفی میزدند
یکی آقای بن احمد بود یکی هم پزشک پور
ما بسیاری از رجال طرفدار حکومت را هم داشتیم
که به علت اختلاف سلیقه اجازه فعالیت نداشند
آقای علی نقی عالیخانی
آقای ابتحاج
تیمسار جم
..........
علی امینی

آنقدر الاحضرت به اصلاحات علاقه داشند که
به نامه سه امضا فروهر ,بختیار,سنجابی
در خرداد 56 نه تنها
بی اعتنایی کردن بلکه ساوواک را فرستادند سراغشان.


الاحضرت بهتر بود مثل 1320 تا 1332 میشستند در کاخ و میگذاشتند
مجلس کارش را انجام دهد.
 
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دوستان عزیز،متأسفانه،ما هنوز دنبال قهرمان هستیم،یعنی*** یکی*** را دوست میداریم یا خدایگان میشود،و یا ایشان را در کره ماه میبینیم،شاید هم تار مویش را لای قر آن***. هنوز هم وقتی*** با چیزی مخالفت می***کنیم،سعی*** می***کنیم،هرچی*** فحش و بد و بیراست نثار دیگری کنیم،بدون اینکه زحمت مطالعه را به خود بدهیم.در اینکه دوستان عزیز،رضا شاه و شاه فقید را خدمت گذار ایران مینامند،شکی نیست،ولی*** باید بپذیرید که امثال کارهای اینها نیز تاثیر کمی*** در انقلاب نداشت.

شما این عکس مشمئز کننده را نگاه کنید،واقعا تاسف بار است،یک تیمسار ارتش با این همه سنّ،مدال،دستک،و پستک،تا کمر ***خم شده،و دست یک پسر ده ساله که هنوز ولش میکردی تنبانش را خیس میکرد،را میبوسد. ایراد به آقای رضا پهلوی نیست چرا که در این عکس دهان ایشان بوی شیر میداد،ایراد از اون پدر و مادریست که با دیدن این عکس،لذت سر شار می***بردند،و ***خم به ابرو نمی***آوردند .خوب وقتی*** این پسر ده ساله که هنوز دندان شیریش نیفتاده بود را از الان،اینطور چپ و راستش می***کنید،وقتی*** این آقا ۱۸ سالش میشود ،می***خواهد که سر شما را ببرد.وای به اون روزی که در سنّ ۱۹ سالگی دستش را نمیبوسیدید،اون***وقت همچون پدر گرامیش،یک لگد در کون این و آن*** میزد.

اشکال کار از اینجا بود که جناب خدایگان،قبلهٔ عالم،در یک مصاحبهٔ مطبوعاتی گفت،مملکت فقط یک حزب دارد،اونهم رستاخیز،هر کس هم نخواهد،پاسپورتش را بگیرد و از این مملکت برود،بقول معاش قاسم،پنداری که مملکت ارث پدریش است،بابا این مملکت مال ۳۰ میلیون ایرانی*** بود،اینها هم سوار این ۳۰ میلیون بودند.

مردم،درست است که اشتباه کردند،ولی*** اگر به اون روزها دوباره برگردید،میتوانید حدس بزنید که انقلاب این مردمی که شب و روز تلویزیون را باز میکردند،و شاهد بوسیدن دست این پسر بچه ۱۰ ساله بودند،و،به پدرش،خدایگان،سایه خدا،از امثال این چیزها میگفتند چرا انقلاب کردند.
کسری جان
به خاطر همین جریان که تیمسار اریانا از بوسیدن دست ولیعهد خوداری کرد از ارتش کنار گذاشته شد
البته برخی از شایعات هم به این جریان کمک کرد
اریانا گفته بود در خوریک ارتشبد نیست که دولا شود و دست بچه ده ساله را ببوسد حتی اگر ولیعهد باشد
 

parham79

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اولا احتیاجی نبود ایشان به کسی تعارف بزنند
اجازه میدادن افرادی که مورد تایید شخص خدشون نبودند وساواک نبودند بیایند در مجلس

همین دکتر صدیقی که شما میگویید یا خانه نشین بود یا زندان بود
هیمن دکتر بختیار چپ و راست زندان بود
ما دو تا کلا نماینده داشتیم در مجلس که حرفی میزدند
یکی آقای بن احمد بود یکی هم پزشک پور
ما بسیاری از رجال طرفدار حکومت را هم داشتیم
که به علت اختلاف سلیقه اجازه فعالیت نداشند
آقای علی نقی عالیخانی
آقای ابتحاج
تیمسار جم
..........
علی امینی

آنقدر الاحضرت به اصلاحات علاقه داشند که
به نامه سه امضا فروهر ,بختیار,سنجابی
در خرداد 56 نه تنها
بی اعتنایی کردن بلکه ساوواک را فرستادند سراغشان.


الاحضرت بهتر بود مثل 1320 تا 1332 میشستند در کاخ و میگذاشتند
مجلس کارش را انجام دهد.
Shah ba dekhalat hash took iran from a sanctioned bankrupt country from 1953 to 1977 to a country that the world bank called the most progressive and rapidly growing industrial power on the planet.The world bank in the mid 70's also called iran's currency the best or the fast growing currency which it could use as one of the ten currencies in it's reserves. Ba dekhalat hash woman got he chance to vote for the first time before even most europian countries in 1963.ba dekhalat hash iran's economy was rated as one of the top 3 most investment friendly in the world and it had the fastest growing industrial and economic growth in a space of 15 years. iran's annual growth index went from 500 to 2100 dollars in a space of 5 to 6 years when the countries currencey could have a 7 to 1 ratio against the us dollars. it was estimated by the mid 80's iran's currencies would reach close to 3 or 4 ratio with the US.The net annual income would be in the 10 to 11 thousand region by the late 80's' early 90s. Today god knows how much it would have been and how valueable our currencies value would be like instead of 3000 region.

Lets not forget who couped against who in 1953 and dissolved the majles against the shah and legal powers at the time.Also Dr Amini refused shah's offer in 1974 to join a multi party, Jaam being purged was a disgrace and tottaly fardoosts fault for fabricating a coupe plot and the naïve shah bought it. Jaam was never politically against the shah. The other guys in that list i'm not sure. The other roshan fekers had no interest in reform.
 
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ChaharMahal

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Shah ba dekhalat hash took iran from a sanctioned bankrupt country from 1953 to 1977 to a country that the world bank called the most progressive and rapidly growing industrial power on the planet.The world bank in the mid 70's also called iran's currency the best or the fast growing currency which it could use as one of the ten currencies in it's reserves. Ba dekhalat hash woman got he chance to vote for the first time before even most europian countries in 1963.ba dekhalat hash iran's economy was rated as one of the top 3 most investment friendly in the world and it had the fastest growing industrial and economic growth in a space of 15 years. iran's annual growth index went from 500 to 2100 dollars in a space of 5 to 6 years when the countries currencey could have a 7 to 1 ratio against the us dollars. it was estimated by the mid 80's iran's currencies would reach close to 3 or 4 ratio with the US.The net annual income would be in the 10 to 11 thousand region by the late 80's' early 90s. Today god knows how much it would have been and how valueable our currencies value would be like instead of 3000 region.

Lets not forget who couped against who in 1953 and dissolved the majles against the shah and legal powers at the time.Also Dr Amini refused shah's offer in 1974 to join a multi party, Jaam being purged was a disgrace and tottaly fardoosts fault for fabricating a coupe plot and the naïve shah bought it. Jaam was never politically against the shah. The other guys in that list i'm not sure. The other roshan fekers had no interest in reform.
دوست عزیز شما از کل داستان مشروطه را متوجه نشدید
درد ما آزادی است.
درد ما خرشت خری نیست.
 
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Unfortunately, it was the pressure of the outsiders, traitors, shah's evil sister Ashraf, and others for Shah to sign the decree to get rid of Mossadegh.

The pressure was ongoing for a while. Money was spend by British and US to get street gangs causing problem.

Mossadegh found out about the plot, and tried to bring the situation under control, by extending the marital laws. When senate would not agree to it (with Ayatollah Kashani's top leutnent being the president of the senate), Mossadegh had no choice but to dissolve the senate.

Unfortunately, the outside powers won. And when they win, they put spies and then take control to run things in their favor.

After that, there were many informants and controller around Shah. Shah went dictatorial (Of course not 1/100000 as bad as Islamists). And when he formed OPEC and tried to control oil and power, he got removed by the same people who removed Mossadegh.

Shah should have never agreed to it, and giving him credit, he did refuse as much as he could under pressure, whether due to fear or just not feeling right doing it. He was the king under Mossadegh and nothing would have changed that. But when he signed the decree, he gave the control of Iran and himself to CIA. Throughout he was smacked around and then kicked out of power, and later killed by the same people.

Mossadegh forever will be the symbol of fight for democracy and democracy in Iran. Nationalization of oil, will forever contain his name of it in the history of Iran. Whether you like him or not, nothing can take that away. Shah did many good things and loved Iran, but the coup against Mossadegh that resulted in the Islamic republic will forever be part of Shah's history.
 

parham79

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Unfortunately, it was the pressure of the outsiders, traitors, shah's evil sister Ashraf, and others for Shah to sign the decree to get rid of Mossadegh.

The pressure was ongoing for a while. Money was spend by British and US to get street gangs causing problem.

Mossadegh found out about the plot, and tried to bring the situation under control, by extending the marital laws. When senate would not agree to it (with Ayatollah Kashani's top leutnent being the president of the senate), Mossadegh had no choice but to dissolve the senate.

Unfortunately, the outside powers won. And when they win, they put spies and then take control to run things in their favor.

After that, there were many informants and controller around Shah. Shah went dictatorial (Of course not 1/100000 as bad as Islamists). And when he formed OPEC and tried to control oil and power, he got removed by the same people who removed Mossadegh.

Shah should have never agreed to it, and giving him credit, he did refuse as much as he could under pressure, whether due to fear or just not feeling right doing it. He was the king under Mossadegh and nothing would have changed that. But when he signed the decree, he gave the control of Iran and himself to CIA. Throughout he was smacked around and then kicked out of power, and later killed by the same people.

Mossadegh forever will be the symbol of fight for democracy and democracy in Iran. Nationalization of oil, will forever contain his name of it in the history of Iran. Whether you like him or not, nothing can take that away. Shah did many good things and loved Iran, but the coup against Mossadegh that resulted in the Islamic republic will forever be part of Shah's history.
Shah went dictatorial because the country was fighting armed islamist/toudehi terrorists looking to make iran a soviet coloney. He had no reformist opposition, his opponents were either MKO terrorists and being helped by islamists.His vision of giving woman equal rights, making iran into a industrial power, Land reforms(which even his critics call a true revolutionary movement)having a good foreign policey of being friends with Israel, US, Europe and having stabel relationships in the east with China and even the soviets did not go down well with these armed terrorists. We were smack bang in the middle of the superpowers war. Iran would have been the first place the soviets would have invaded had it not been for irans wise foreign policey at the time

.It's easy to sit from afar and pass judgements.When the west was putting immense pressure on him to kill and execute communist students, he instead paid and send them abroad to be educated to comeback and serve heir country(sadly it did not happen). When the west asked him to attack Saddam he forced saddam to sign a humiliating accord without going to war and said one day of war will cost Iranian people a lot of lives and money that should be spent on building this country. When the west told him to attack Afghanistan he instad built a relationship and signed a security pact with them and Pakistan.Shah hated bloodshed and built the massive and proud armed forces as a deterent for countries to think twice about invading iran again.When the west pretty much bullied him to bring the oil prices down he replied by saying in 1979 I will start building our own refineries and will convert petrol into tens of different deravitives and start making private Iranian oil branches and refineries all over the world. We would have had Iranian owned petrol stations all over the world and would have started making our own engine oils and dominanating the world oil and petrol markets.As the shah said, there is no real profit in just selling oil, but the real profit is in refining it, making petrol stations all over the world and using it in different deravitives.


It's easy to say he should have created a paradise, but one must be fair and understand the circumstances we were under. Also to be fair,we were by far the most free society in the region at the time. Turkey had no press freedom. non whatsoever and despite that we had double annual income of the turks and much more progressive society.Iraq was had no freedom but they were pretty progressive to. We had far more freedom then anyonelse considering what kind of pressure the country was under.

Also mossadegh was no angel. he shut down plenty of papers and dissolved the parliament and his primer minster fatemi couped against the shah first. It was he who couped first not the shah. Shah had every legal power and right to sack mossadegh. Infact mossadegh tried to stop fatemi who next day orderd the papers to publish the pictures of the shah with a rope around his neck.You only listen to one side and watch the shah and his men biased bullshit and pass judgements regarding the shah's time. As for the shah's supposed coupe, well at the time iran was bankrupt and people were not happy with mossadegh as they were in poverty and they turned to the shah who cameback and made iran's economy and standard of life from 1963 to 1977 the best in the region and one of the fastest growing in the world.As stated by dr millani, well before china thought of first building a industrial power and then transition into a democracy, shah was planning that in 1963. This is a guy who opposed the shah but he has the guts to say that.Shah's plan was he would build the ground works for his son to make a transition into a society with more azadi siasi and from 1976 to 1978 shah had started that. The news papers were more azad to publish things and the Tv was the same and as a result look what happen.The problem at the time was even if you mentioned something positive, these roshan kekers would call you a backward taghooti. They even did the same with anyother roshan feker who made a positive comment about reza shah or the shah himself.Na ghajaan, aghe beh shah fosh nadee, roshan feker nistee.

These so called educated bunch were the sole reason khomenie who was uneducated clown tabdil shod be khoda. It is because people listend to this charlattans like sahabi, ghotbzadeh, sanjabi va yek mosht bi vatan hayed dighe who made khomenie into a demi-god. Comment like the sun is rising from paris this morning and we need to pray that way by these charlattans were hilarious and ironic. How can we forget khomenies strands in the holly book and his face in the moon beauties as well.

They knew full well who khomenie was but because they wanted power and revenge, they sacrificed iran because they thought they could crontroll khomenie once in power.They knew khomenie had the power through mass deciption and lies to unite the people behind them to grab power and they even backstabbed two of their former people in Sedighi and bakhtiyar just to get to the top. This charlattans are like voulchers but karma is a wonderfull thing.Now they are all suffering or have sufferd by the hand of the same man they held.Yazdi the murderer is in prison and hopefully will die a slow death. Ghotzadeh was executed by khomenie(how ironic). Sahabi is a senile old fool sitting somewhere still praising khomenie and calling him imam rahel(in 2009 he said shoar hyee sakhtar shekan nadid dar tazohoratt mardoom) , bazargan got screwed(but atleast he admitted we should have reformed the monarchy), sanjabi got booted out of iran(rotting in hell hopefully) and the rest of them are rotting as well all over the place. History has not and will continue to not look well aupon these sell outs power hungry voulchers.


Last but not least, shah agreed with the idea of making iran's oil national and infact it was reza shah who first said and talked about this.At the time iran did not have the power to go against the powers and reza shah was ousted.As ziba kalam said, there are two men who modern iran owes it's current exsistence to. Reza Shah and Mohamad khan.Not mossadegh or the shah.
 
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OSTAD POOYA

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جناب استاد
بنده به این قسمتی که از خاطرات ملکه مادر نوشته اید شک دارم
زیرا مثلا گفته شده که رضا شاه عمامه اخوند ها را در اورد و اینطور نبود ما می بینیم که حوزه علمیه قم در زمان رضا شاه به اوج خود رسیده است
زمانی که ایت الله حائری از نجف به قم می اید
یا مثلا در مورد اینکه یزد را دوست داشته چون زرتشتی بوده اند
خوب اگر رضا شاه این همه علاقه به زرتشت داشته چرا اسامی فرزندانش
محمد رضا
علیرضا
غلام رضا
عبدارضا
احمد رضا
حمید رضا
گذاشته
اینطور که پیداست عاشق رضا بوده که تمامی پسرانش پسوند رضا دارند
من والله اگر عاشق یک چیز یا کسی هم باشم حداقل یکی دو تا از فرزندانم را به ان اسم ربط می دهم نه اینکه همه فرزندان را محمد رضا و غلام رضا نام بگذارم
به نظر من مشکل تاریخ نویسان این است که هر کسی بنا بر عقیده خودش شخصیت های تاریخی را قالب ریزی میکند
حالا اگر شاه فقید محمد رضا شا ه هم ما نمی شناخیتیم و تاریخ و عکسی در دست نبود بعضی ها می امدند و می گفتند که هر ماه می رفته ارامگاه کورش و سجده میکرده
در صورتی که می بینیم هم حاج رفته هم هر ماه به قول خودش پابوس امام رضا می رفته و کمر بسته حضرت عباس بوده

Dear General,

I find you to be knowledgeable but not fair in your assessments. Reza Shah did take off the turban “Amaameh” from the akhoonds and it was illegal for them to wear them in many places. At the bazar in Tehran there were guys that would sit atop of the entrance with hooks and would remove theirs turbans upon entry. So that is indeed a fact.

Now he did love ancient Iran as well and did many things to further studies, archeology, and promotion of Iran’s past. His own last name “Pahlavi” is used to bring about the ancient language and Iranian history. I cannot comment fully why he chose those names but his own name being Reza as well as him needing to appease to the people, and also his own upbringing may have contributed to this. I am not saying he would not consider himself Muslim or not having religious beliefs but he did understand that akhoonds are parasites and bad for the society. So for that he fought them and pushed them to ghom. As you see my friend these conditions and reasoning are not a 100% and there are various factors that contribute to it. I would like to add that Reza Shah also visited Takhte Jamshid and ordered special commissions to excavate and improve the conditions there and many other historical sites.

He ordered to building of Ferdosi’s measoleum and liked him dearly and had reader read from the Shahname to him. This all proves his love for ancient Iran and its history. So I think his actions throughout the years speak volumes rather than some names were we do not know the full reasons behind it. Please read the details a bit more carefully as the post does not indicate that he was Zoroastrian. Rather that he liked it since it was the religion of Persia.
 
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OSTAD POOYA

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Shah went dictatorial because the country was fighting armed islamist/toudehi terrorists looking to make iran a soviet coloney. He had no reformist opposition, his opponents were either MKO terrorists and being helped by islamists.His vision of giving woman equal rights, making iran into a industrial power, Land reforms(which even his critics call a true revolutionary movement)having a good foreign policey of being friends with Israel, US, Europe and having stabel relationships in the east with China and even the soviets did not go down well with these armed terrorists. We were smack bang in the middle of the superpowers war. Iran would have been the first place the soviets would have invaded had it not been for irans wise foreign policey at the time

.It's easy to sit from afar and pass judgements.When the west was putting immense pressure on him to kill and execute communist students, he instead paid and send them abroad to be educated to comeback and serve heir country(sadly it did not happen). When the west asked him to attack Saddam he forced saddam to sign a humiliating accord without going to war and said one day of war will cost Iranian people a lot of lives and money that should be spent on building this country. When the west told him to attack Afghanistan he instad built a relationship and signed a security pact with them and Pakistan.Shah hated bloodshed and built the massive and proud armed forces as a deterent for countries to think twice about invading iran again.When the west pretty much bullied him to bring the oil prices down he replied by saying in 1979 I will start building our own refineries and will convert petrol into tens of different deravitives and start making private Iranian oil branches and refineries all over the world. We would have had Iranian owned petrol stations all over the world and would have started making our own engine oils and dominanating the world oil and petrol markets.As the shah said, there is no real profit in just selling oil, but the real profit is in refining it, making petrol stations all over the world and using it in different deravitives.


It's easy to say he should have created a paradise, but one must be fair and understand the circumstances we were under. Also to be fair,we were by far the most free society in the region at the time. Turkey had no press freedom. non whatsoever and despite that we had double annual income of the turks and much more progressive society.Iraq was had no freedom but they were pretty progressive to. We had far more freedom then anyonelse considering what kind of pressure the country was under.

Also mossadegh was no angel. he shut down plenty of papers and dissolved the parliament and his primer minster fatemi couped against the shah first. It was he who couped first not the shah. Shah had every legal power and right to sack mossadegh. Infact mossadegh tried to stop fatemi who next day orderd the papers to publish the pictures of the shah with a rope around his neck.You only listen to one side and watch the shah and his men biased bullshit and pass judgements regarding the shah's time. As for the shah's supposed coupe, well at the time iran was bankrupt and people were not happy with mossadegh as they were in poverty and they turned to the shah who cameback and made iran's economy and standard of life from 1963 to 1977 the best in the region and one of the fastest growing in the world.As stated by dr millani, well before china thought of first building a industrial power and then transition into a democracy, shah was planning that in 1963. This is a guy who opposed the shah but he has the guts to say that.Shah's plan was he would build the ground works for his son to make a transition into a society with more azadi siasi and from 1976 to 1978 shah had started that. The news papers were more azad to publish things and the Tv was the same and as a result look what happen.The problem at the time was even if you mentioned something positive, these roshan kekers would call you a backward taghooti. They even did the same with anyother roshan feker who made a positive comment about reza shah or the shah himself.Na ghajaan, aghe beh shah fosh nadee, roshan feker nistee.

These so called educated bunch were the sole reason khomenie who was uneducated clown tabdil shod be khoda. It is because people listend to this charlattans like sahabi, ghotbzadeh, sanjabi va yek mosht bi vatan hayed dighe who made khomenie into a demi-god. Comment like the sun is rising from paris this morning and we need to pray that way by these charlattans were hilarious and ironic. How can we forget khomenies strands in the holly book and his face in the moon beauties as well.

They knew full well who khomenie was but because they wanted power and revenge, they sacrificed iran because they thought they could crontroll khomenie once in power.They knew khomenie had the power through mass deciption and lies to unite the people behind them to grab power and they even backstabbed two of their former people in Sedighi and bakhtiyar just to get to the top. This charlattans are like voulchers but karma is a wonderfull thing.Now they are all suffering or have sufferd by the hand of the same man they held.Yazdi the murderer is in prison and hopefully will die a slow death. Ghotzadeh was executed by khomenie(how ironic). Sahabi is a senile old fool sitting somewhere still praising khomenie and calling him imam rahel(in 2009 he said shoar hyee sakhtar shekan nadid dar tazohoratt mardoom) , bazargan got screwed(but atleast he admitted we should have reformed the monarchy), sanjabi got booted out of iran(rotting in hell hopefully) and the rest of them are rotting as well all over the place. History has not and will continue to not look well aupon these sell outs power hungry voulchers.


Last but not least, shah agreed with the idea of making iran's oil national and infact it was reza shah who first said and talked about this.At the time iran did not have the power to go against the powers and reza shah was ousted.As ziba kalam said, there are two men who modern iran owes it's current exsistence to. Reza Shah and Mohamad khan.Not mossadegh or the shah.


Thank you so much for taking the time and posting this. Everyone should read this post.
 
May 9, 2004
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Dear General,

I find you to be knowledgeable but not fair in your assessments. Reza Shah did take off the turban “Amaameh” from the akhoonds and it was illegal for them to wear them in many places. At the bazar in Tehran there were guys that would sit atop of the entrance with hooks and would remove theirs turbans upon entry. So that is indeed a fact.
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جناب استاد
در این رابطه اشتباه می کنید
اینطور که شما می فرمایید نبود
ان دوران خیلی ها به عنوان اینکه سید هستند عمامه بر سر می گذاشتند حتی بسیاری از انها سواد خواندن و نوشتن نداشتند
و همچنین بسیاری از عامه عمامه بر سر می گذاشتند
تنها این گروه بودند که عمامه گذاشتن برای انها ممنوع شد
بنا بر قانون مجلس شورای ملی قانون اتحاد شکل لباس
گروه علما مراجع تقلید
مفتیان اهل تسنن
امام جماعت پیشنمازان دارای محراب
مدرسین فقه و اصول حوزه های علمی
روحانیون مسلمان غیر ایرانی
طلاب حوزه های علمیه پس از قبولی در امتحانات ویژه اصول و فقه
همه این گروها از این قانون مستثنی بودند
و مجوز داشتند کسی نمیتوانست عمامه را از سر انها بر دارد

تنها همانطور که گفتم ان کسانی که جزو این گروه هایی که گفتم نبودند و عمامه سر می گذاشتند خلع عمامه میشدند
که ان هم در بسیاری از مناطق اجرا نمی شد و تنها در تهران و چند شهر بزرگ ان هم در برخی موارد دیده شد
و این باعث نارضایتی حوزه علمیه نشد بلکه برخی انرا تشویق هم می کردند
خود اخوندها در عاشورا کسی که حامل مجوز نبود و می خواست بالا ممبر برود را منع می کردند
شخص روشه خوان می بایستی پایین ممبر روضه خوانی کند
این حتی تا زمان بعد از انقلاب هم دیده شده است
بلکه هم اکنون هم بسیاری از اخوندها با رفتن شخصی بدون مجوز از یکی از حوزه های علمیه به بالای ممبر مخالفت می کنند !!ا
چرا که مفتیان کوچه و بازاری و هر کسی برود عمامه سر کند برای حوزه خوش ایند نبود و نیست
همچنین می بینید در دوران رضا شاه حوزه علمیه بعد از قرنها دوباره قدرت گرفت تا انجایی که قدرت از حوزه علمیه نجفو کربلا به قم متقل شد
و چنانکه ذکر کردم عبدالکریم حائری از نجف به قم امد و حوزه را سر و سامان داد
درست در سالهای حکومت رضا شاه بزرگ


Now he did love ancient Iran as well and did many things to further studies, archeology, and promotion of Iran’s past. His own last name “Pahlavi” is used to bring about the ancient language and Iranian history. I cannot comment fully why he chose those names but his own name being Reza as well as him needing to appease to the people, and also his own upbringing may have contributed to this. I am not saying he would not consider himself Muslim or not having religious beliefs but he did understand that akhoonds are parasites and bad for the society. So for that he fought them and pushed them to ghom. As you see my friend these conditions and reasoning are not a 100% and there are various factors that contribute to it. I would like to add that Reza Shah also visited Takhte Jamshid and ordered special commissions to excavate and improve the conditions there and many other historical sites.

He ordered to building of Ferdosi’s measoleum and liked him dearly and had reader read from the Shahname to him. This all proves his love for ancient Iran and its history. So I think his actions throughout the years speak volumes rather than some names were we do not know the full reasons behind it. Please read the details a bit more carefully as the post does not indicate that he was Zoroastrian. Rather that he liked it since it was the religion of Persia.
دوست گرامی
چانکه گفتم رضا شاه به ایران تاریخ ایران افتخار می کرد
ولی اینطور نبود که ضدیتی با اصول اسلام داشته باشد
اگر می بینید در مورد برخی اخوندها سختگیری میکند به این خاطر بود که او عقیده داشت که سیاست نباید در دین دخالت کند مخصوصا که می دید
نفوذ اخوندها باعث می شود که از قدرت او کاسته شد
این را در جاهای دیگری هم می بینیم
مثل عبدالناصر
سادات
سیسی
و حتی پسرش محمد رضا شاه
می بینیم در حالی که این اشخاص به اسلام و اصول اسلام ایمان دارند در همان حال به قلع و قمع اخوندها می پردازند
عبدالناصر صدها تن از اخوان را اعدام کرد از سید قطب گرفته تا دیگران
سادات هزارنا نفر از اینها را زندان و اعدام کرد همینطور سیسی در این مدت کوتاه
کاری که رضا شاه نکرد
اینها خیلی دو اتشه تر از رضا شاه بودند و هستند
همچنین می بینیم درست مانند رضا شاه به گذشته دور خود افتخار میکنند
 

OSTAD POOYA

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Namak Nashnashaye kesafat



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پایین کشیدن مجسمه رضا شاه توسط دانشجویان بورسیه شده توسط دولت شاهنشاهی پهلوی ایران در سال 1979 در جریان انقلاب اسلامی

رضا شاه 1307 اعزام دانشجویان به فرنگ برای تحصیل:

"این اولین دفعه نیست که من از محصلین که در حقیقت فرزندان من هستند بدرقه می کنم. شاید مرتبه پنجم یا ششم باشد. منتهی تا کنون محصلین لشکری را اعزام می داشتم و حاال خیلی مسرورم که
شاگردان کشوری را روانه می داریم. باید بدانید چرا شما را از یک کشور پادشاهی به یک کشور جمهوری مثل مملکت فرانسه اعزام می داریم؛ فقط برای این است که حس وطن پرستی فرانسویان را سرمشق خود قرار داده و در اعماق قلبتان جایگزین سازید. اگر زمامداران سابق تا کنون مبادرت به چنین کارهایی کرده بودند مملکت ایران به وضع حالیه نبود و قطعا پیشرفت های بهتری حاصل شده بود.
فرزندان من! از خداوند متعال می خواهم که پس از بازگشت از اروپا، شماها را با ارمغان خوبی که برای وطنتان می آورید دوباره مالقات نمایم ... . آقای علاء که طرف اعتماد من است از برای سرپرستی شما معین شده است."

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