Is Assad at the verge and what does his fall mean for Iran?!

Flint · Feb 9, 2014

But to what end? Doesn't make sense. What IS no surprise is the link between Al-Qaeda and Iran. Iran is a perfect base for AQ and don't be fooled by this sunni shia "split". Politics trumps religion all the time. If they can exploit each other they will and they have. But aiding them in Syria? I don't get that part.

Chinaski · Feb 9, 2014

It actually makes sense. Look, what does the IR gain when this syrian thing is over? Nothing at all. But look since the syrian thing, they are getting invited to the spot light, they are trying to get something out of this situation, they get invited to sit at whatever table that is trying to decide something about the syrian matter. At the end of the day, this paling of IR and US is based heavily on this syrian matter. The IR is trying to break out of isolation and the syrian war has been the main factor for why the world is talking more about the IR then ever before. They want to be players (we all know they are not, they are puppets themselves) but this syrian war is making them become relevant in negotiations. Atleast it seems like they are relevant and its more than enough for such animals like IR to make their followers in Iran jump high and say: Mibinid ke donyaa az jomhoori eslaami hesaab mibare? Mibinid estekbaare jahaani be maa ehtiaaj daare? Az in heyvoonaa hame chi bar miaad.Maadar jendeh haai ke inaa hastan hichki too in mantaghe nist. Dorost hamoon moghei ke az esraail aslahe migereftan, migoftan "raahe ghods az karbalaa migozarad". Ye roodeye raast too shikame inaa nist.

Flint · Feb 10, 2014

Interesting.....

IR has always benefitted from behaving bad then ask for something in return to behave. So now they have the Syria card that they did not have before. By just throttling their presence in Syria, they can get stuff. I still think Assad is a goner even he stays. He'll be IR/Hezbollah puppet. But yes, he should watch his back. He could be sold down the river anytime.

Bi-honar · Feb 10, 2014

Flint said:

It will make a little more sense if you read the article below. Some fissures started forming between the ISIL and Al Qaida in the summer time over direction and leadership. Things heated up around he same time the US/Iran negotiations started and a few weeks ago ISIL officially split from Al Qaida. Now Al Qaida (with Iran's help) is helping fight the ISIL along side other rebel forces (both moderates and Islamist). I'm just hoping that this plays into a final negotiated solution in the talks (i.e. there's some behind the scenes realignment with a higher purpose):

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/10/us-syria-crisis-rebels-idUSBREA1909V20140210

Motori · Feb 10, 2014

Chinaski said:

Biaa China joon,

Vaasseh hamineh goftam ageh Assad az in jomboori e kaseef eslaami beborreh man ham T-Shirtesho mipoosham ham dar tazaahotaat e Pro-Assad sherkat mikonam.

In mellat tarafdaar e regime yaad nemigiran keh baba "Doshmani baa in regime khatarnaakeh vali doosti baa in regime marg aavareh", baavar nemkonin? az Ghotbzaadeh, ayatolla Laahooti va yaa az seyed mehdi Hashemi beporsin. In naneh sagg haa sharf nadaaran.yeki az hamin akhoondaa keh too regime yeh pokhi ham hast vaasseh inkeh vafadaari e khodesho beh dastgaah saabet koneh pesar e khodesho loo daad oon aa ham gereftan konshtanesh. In regime na faghat baraayeh mardom Iran balkeh vaasseh hameyeh mellat haayeh mantagheh samm e khaaleseh.

Chinaski · Feb 10, 2014

Motori said:

Motori joon, ghesmate dovome harfi ro ke shomaa injaa mizani ro man 3 saal pish mizadam. Mitoonim berim moroor konim. ghesmate avale harfet doroste montaahaa protagonistaaro eshtebaah entekhaab kardi o ghodrateshoon ro ham eshtebaah takhmin zadi. Assad aslan ghodrate in ro dige nadaare ke az kessi bebore o be kessi vasl she. In badbakht mamlekatesho kardan meydoone jang haaye siaasiye khodeshoon. Assad che bekhaad che nakhaad, IR khodesho bekhaatere manaafe khodesh vaarede jaryaan mikone. Assad che bekhaad che nakhaad oonvari haa in heyvoonaaro miaaran too keshvarsh o mindaazan be joone mardom. Assad che bekhaad che nakhaad, hamin IR miaad be oonvaram komak mikone ke in meydoone jang sholoogh bemoone o IR betoone too negotiation haa harfi vaase goftan daashteh baashe.

Motori joon, age injaa kessi harfi zade ke aakharesh hamoon shode, bande boodam. Man yaadame ye moghei tak o tanhaa baa ye artesh az doostaan dar mioftaadam o ban ham mishodam. chon vaagheyat ro migoftam ye seri az doostaan naa aagaah boodan (haalaa nemigim bisavaad

) o mozakhrat migoftan o aakharesham be jang o davaa tabdil mishod. Vali berid postaaye man ro too hamin thread yaa oon thread iran-syria bekhoonid. Hamin chizi ro ke alaan pish oomade ro man 1 yaa 2 saal pish goftam. Goftam haminaai ke alaan Assad Assad mikonan, fardaa hamin Assad ro eyne aabe khordan mifrooshan.

Hanoozam migam: In keshvar ro be naa hagh daaghoon kardan. IN vasat faghat yek aadame dorost vojood daare va oon Assade. Keshvaresh az hamoon aval ham shod baazicheye daste barnaame haaye US Admin o toole sagaaye europaai o tork o arabesh, az invaram in heyvoonaaye IR be esme komak oomadan o aakharesham behesh naaro zadan.

Hassan1980 · Feb 10, 2014

Now someone needs to tell this guy if it werent for Iranian and Hezbollah assistance Damascus would have been lost long time ago.

It were Iranian officers that put a security belt around damascus and kept the Salafists at bay.

Assad himself is thanking Iran for his support and we have some who say otherwise lol

Chinaski · Feb 10, 2014

Assad can thank them all day joojeh, Assad cant prevent the IR from importing their Uzbek al qaida fighters into syria. Assad at the end of the day cant do anything actively. Unfortunately as if there is one decent or semi decent guy in the whole dirty and deadly game, its assad. IR on the paper and officially is helping him, but IR needs both sides to keep fighting in Syria. This syrian war is like a joker for the IR. That means, once again the most dirty, do roo va kasif force in this game is the IR. IR doesnt want either side to win this battle, atleast not in the near future there for they get al qaida fighters to syria to keep the balance.

Hassan1980 · Feb 10, 2014

Why would Iran both send its own militias and at the same time send ''Uzbek Al Qaeda'' fighters ? What are the benefits of that ? i see no financial, militarily or political gain here. That rubbish story got created by some sensational newspapers and some people really take it serious.

Here, i found this article. Or you think this is true aswel ?

Western journalism has become a total joke.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ng-warship-guarded-Russians-Syrian-coast.html

Chinaski · Feb 10, 2014

yes western journalism is really about to be reduced to mozdoori for certain lobbies and powers and in many cases mozdoori for the one that pays the most bucks for those article. However the gain for the IR is explained above. That really makes sense. As long as this war continues, the IR has a joker to get invited to whatever round table about the syrian issue. This is an important political gain.

Hassan1980 · Feb 10, 2014

Makes no sense to me. Iran and America havent been at a negotiating table (publicly) for almost 35 years aside from the nuclear negotiations so why would Iran suddenly feel the urge to participate in meetings about Syria while there are much more beneficial issues for the country for example at the United Nations forums to participate in ? !

Even if, even if, the source that claims that Iran is sending AlQaeda into Syria why hasnt there been any videos,pictures leaked about it ? just as we see video material showing how Shia militias are fighting side by side with Syrian alawites.

Chinaski · Feb 10, 2014

They dont have to do it publicly. They have been in contact with eachother over the whole 35 years. Their representants met eachother on regular basis in Cyprus. Be har a lot of senseful things dont make sense to someone who is deep into IRs and Hezbollah asses. someone who never knew his beloved regime got milliards of dollars of military help from the israelies with the green light of the US.

Hassan1980 · Feb 10, 2014

Baaz dobare dari ehsasati mishi Eskandar khan. Iran and USA have alot of behind meetings yes but it is very unlikely to go in the same boat with Alqaeda just to have few meetings about Syria with the US delegation. makes no sense dude

Chinaski · Feb 10, 2014

goftam ke, it absolutely doesnt matter if something makes sense to a kid like you. Your whole system is dysfunctional. That means, almost everything that makes no sense to you, will probably make sense to anyone with a bit of a healthy brain. You need to realize that your IR is a US puppet. You need to realize that the israelies the same israelies that you bad mouth right and left, made your IR survive against the Iraqis. You need to realize, that the war we called "jange tahmili" was infact a war that we tahmik kardim be eraagh. We started it to weaken iraq for the israelies and americans. Maa jang ro be oonaa tahmil kardim na oonaa be maa. We need to go and second guess EVERYTHING they fed us with in the last 40 years. Goal was, to weaken saddam and not the IR! The israelies and americans actually brought up khomeini to get saddam involved in this process. I remember it was our F-4 fighters that flew over iraqi cities throwin down anti saddam and anti baath party elaamiyeh inviting the iraqis to uprise against their regime. THIS is the beggining of war and not the reaction of iraq to eventually start shooting back. I also remember iraq complained to the UN about all these violations of his air space and no one listened to him because they had their orders to let the IR provoke until iraq responds. Even after 2 years of war, Iraqis were ready to end the whole thing and it was your Israeli backed dog khomeini and his regime that didnt want to end it because the israeli didnt want that war to end so early. They wanted to drag their old enemy iraq into more trouble, more destruction and at the end it still didnt function. Iraqis won that war and your nehzaam had to drink that jaame zahr and the israeli-US complex had to wait for other opportunities to somehow get rid of Baath party and eliminate the most sarsakht israelie enemy in the whole region. Aare pessar jaan, you need to learn alot of things about your dirty nezaam.

Hassan1980 · Feb 10, 2014

Chinaski, what do you think about this ?

Also, wasnt Saddam installed by the CIA to replace his uncle Al Bakr ?

Hassan1980 · Feb 10, 2014

Also whats your opinion on this matter

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/26/us-saddam-hussein_n_3815109.html

Chinaski · Feb 10, 2014

Theys say nothing. Absolutely nothing. They have met with so many people and toppled them few months or years later. Mibini, mokhet eyne mokhe ye bachst. bahs ro nemitooni donbaal koni, baa do taa akse birabt mikhaaye bekeshish be haashiye. So there are many pic of rajavi meeting with your khomeini. Beram biaaram? Be darde kojaaye in bahs mikhore aakhe pessar jaan?

Chinaski · Feb 10, 2014

Hassan1980 said:

This is a made up bullshit and mainstream. What is A LOT MORE interessting is this article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/31/opinion/a-war-crime-or-an-act-of-war.html

Hassan1980 · Feb 10, 2014

Chinaski said:

In be biraahe keshidan va birabt aslan nist dude. This was a time that the US helped to prop up the Iraqi regime,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran–Iraq_war

United States support for Iraq during the Iran–Iraq War, against post-revolutionary Iran, included several billion dollars' worth of economic aid, the sale of dual-use technology, non-U.S. origin weaponry, military intelligence, Special Operations training, and direct involvement in warfare against Iran.[3][4]

Support from the U.S. for Iraq was not a secret and was frequently discussed in open session of the Senate and House of Representatives. On June 9, 1992, Ted Koppel reported on ABC's Nightline,that the "Reagan/Bush administrations permitted—and frequently encouraged—the flow of money, agricultural credits, dual-use technology, chemicals, and weapons to Iraq."[5]

what do you say about this ?

Chinaski · Feb 10, 2014

No. They have fed you with bullshit all the time. Saddam was not even responsible for those gasings in halabja. He atleast was not repsonsible for any kind of genocide. He even made use of a softer kind of gas (mustard) than the IR that made use of cyanide that kills on the spot and those kurds that got killed in that town were killed by iranian gas. The americans just needed something to put on him to be able to kill him. Those corpses were killed by a gas that iraq was not known to posses but iran. Even the first and official CIA and state department report, said it was iranian gas that killed the kurds. Later on, the state departement vaa veghaahate tamaam changed reversed their own report completely and blamed it on saddam because they needed it to justify invading iraq and killing saddam later on. This Prof. Pelletiere, had difficutlies to get this article through as state department didnt want NY Times to publish this article. loool. Why? I mean pelletiere was a CIA guy himself, state departements own opinion was based on Pelletieres report and investigation. Why didnt want one of their own guys, to publish something that was their owns state departments stance before? Its clear. all of a sudden the truth didnt serve the US admins plans to kill saddam. so that report needed to be supressed.

bale pessar jaan, alot of shit is forced down our throats in the last 40 years. The biggest disintegration factor in our region is and has been the IR and the IR is and has been a US and Israeli backed element from day one.

http://www.mediamonitors.net/robinmiller10.html

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