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TeamMeli

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I consider Switzerland a shithole just like Chinaski considers this part of the US a shithole , get it? don't waste your time giving me your life story with your usual long posts . No disrespect but I have no interest .



You answered yourself , no need to explain .
Rodger that I understand but I hardly consider a two paragraph response my life story. William Shakespeare couldn't give you his life story in two paragraphs. I answered myself but just remember that people can change. Back then I was a punk and honestly, I would have kicked my own ass but the military has a way of humbling you. Anyways, I get what you are saying and when I respond to you, I will just keep it football related because we need some football fans on this thread otherwise it will die.

Does that sound like a fair deal? We will keep things related to sports. I appreciate the fact that you said no disrespect and I understand you don't have an interest so I will keep things with you sports related. I'm just saying, I've seen people who were heroine addicts and they were able to get clean. I've seen people who served time in prison and they became reformed. Just because you were something in the past, doesn't mean that identifies you today. I'll guarantee you that you also evolved as a person. If you compare yourself to your former self 5 years ago, I'm sure you notice a huge difference right? Back to football. All I'm saying is people can change yes I was a liar back in the past but I was truthful since I was on here but I ackhowledge that I lied a lot on Persian Football so I understand your stance but I hope I was able to clear up my name a bit. I backed up things I said and I spoke to a psychologist about this issue but I am not going to bore you with that. Honestly, I'm happy with who I am and with myself so if people here don't believe me, that is their prerogative.

THIS IS WIDE OPEN there really is no clear cut dominant teams like we had in the past so it should make for a VERY EXCITING PLAYOFFS it's really anybody's Lombardy Trophy. Remember a few years ago when the Giants limped into the playoffs and beat the undefeated Pats and the Giants limped in with like a 9-7 record? That is what I am trying to say anybody has a chance.
 
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akheh haroomzadeh chera enghadr kooso shehr megi? "basically admitting"? why don't you enlighten me how I basically admitted. The only thing I admitted is that your the biggest hypocrite on this forum for bashing and preaching members about "investing" in the mullahs while all along you been traveling to Iran and giving them your own money why don't you practice what you preach?
Aare khaar kosse, you are admitting it with each post. aare nane ghahbe, you are admitting it with everything you say. You admit you are a fucked up little pussy with no knowledge about anything, not even about your own team. You mofo are admitting that in the midst of a discussion about football you come up with such ridiclulous and unrelated stuff as traveling to iran and nonsense like this. Aare tokhme haroom, you are admitting you have no clue about anything you talk about. Just a little illiterate piece of shit.

the old man claiming he right again when I caught him in his own Bullshit. if you search " I am right" on this forum there are 1000+ posts made by Chinaski. Do you get hard on every time you say "I am right" (oh I forgot you cant since you need Viagra) or do you just like padding yourself in the back for no reason? If you had any sense of football or sports in the US you would know a franchise expansion is not relocating. Relocating is the Indianapolis Colts , relocating will be the raiders if they move to LA . Expansion teams are teams like the Jaguars , Ravens or Tampa Rays in the MLB . If Art Modell relocated to Baltimore then there would be no Cleveland Browns today. I don't know why I am even wasting my time explain these simple things to a old fart like you since your brain is incapable of grasping these simple facts.
Yes tokhme sag, i am right. I am always right when it comes to a pice of shit like you. You better dont forget that. Chinaski is ALWAYS right when talking to a piece of shit like you. write it down 100 times, come back again and let me see if you got it.

Again you useless piece of shit: Your team that fucked up excuse of a team called baltimore ravens is basically the original cleveland browns. Period. Art Modell was sick of losing in cleveland so he just took his franchise, brought it down to you toilett lickers and called it baltimore ravens. Period. Now call it whatever you want..relocation or whatever, you mofos didnt have a team until modell moved his cleveland browns and all its players to baltimore and gave it a new name and logo. go jump off the cliff now, baltimore ravens are art modells cleveland browns brought down to baltimore and renamed. Or did you expect him to get his franchise to baltimore and still call it cleveland browns you silly mofo?



look olagh, you a guy who thinks he knows everything . Your a guy who claims to have played football . You must of done a lot of things in the 6 months you lived in the US , you became a football player and at the same time you traveled all across the US (more than me or anyone else on this forum as you claim) and learned about American's and race and everything there is to know about America. You can barely speak English so what other languages do you speak? is gibberish one those 4 languages? because your damn good at that.ar ar ar ....vagh vagh...
As i said heyvvoon: Yes. Chinaski knows it all. Get it in your motherfucking head finally. Between me and a fucked up animal like you there cant be any competition, there is only total domination and your destruction. You illiterate idiot and me...it not even a contest, its not even close you fucked up ghahve chi. Aare haroom zaadeh, aside from persian which you little mofo dont even understand let alone to read and write, i speak german and english and i can get across my point in french and possibly even in italian. So whenever you mofo can speak as good german or french as i do english, then you come back and start barking again.
Never forget heyvoon, man andaaze kolle heykale to faghat mirinam.
 
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TeamMeli

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Raasti tokhme sag, you will sit down and read whatever teammelli has to say to you. Period. Harfam nabaashe.
Honestly China jan it's not necessary I just wanted to answer to clear my name but everyone is entitled to their opinions and I am not going to be alble to change how people think. I read an interesting article a psychologist gave me back in the day. In that article it says 25% of the people will hate you no matter what and 25% of the people will love you no matter what. Now, you are not going to be able to get those 25% who hate you to like you, likewise you are not going to get those 25% who like you to hate you, unless you do something really bad. However, that leaves 50% of the people and you can turn them arround. People can think whatever they want of me. I used to go out of my way to try and impress people and part of it was my own insecurity. Plus I have successful family members and you know in our culture we get compared and stacked up by older family members but I realized something. I'm happy with who I am and I'm happy with who I've become from what I was. That is all the peace I need my friend. He can read or not read that is his prerogative. One thing I learned is you can't change people's minds but I just wanted to clear my name from the past. Shoot even fish evolve into bigger fish so people can change.
 

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Aare khaar kosse, . aare nane ghahbe, You admit you are a fucked up little pussy with no knowledge about anything, . You mofo . Aare tokhme haroom, . Just a little illiterate piece of shit.



Yes tokhme sag, i am right. I am always right when it comes to a pice of shit like you. . Chinaski is ALWAYS right when talking to a piece of shit like you. it.

Again you useless piece of shit

As i said heyvvoon: Yes. Chinaski knows it all. Get it in your motherfucking head finally. Between me and a fucked up animal like you , . You illiterate idiot and me...you fucked up ghahve chi. Aare haroom zaadeh, .
Never forget heyvoon, man andaaze kolle heykale to faghat mirinam.tokhme sag
 

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Honestly China jan it's not necessary I just wanted to answer to clear my name but everyone is entitled to their opinions and I am not going to be alble to change how people think. I read an interesting article a psychologist gave me back in the day. In that article it says 25% of the people will hate you no matter what and 25% of the people will love you no matter what. Now, you are not going to be able to get those 25% who hate you to like you, likewise you are not going to get those 25% who like you to hate you, unless you do something really bad. However, that leaves 50% of the people and you can turn them arround. People can think whatever they want of me. I used to go out of my way to try and impress people and part of it was my own insecurity. Plus I have successful family members and you know in our culture we get compared and stacked up by older family members but I realized something. I'm happy with who I am and I'm happy with who I've become from what I was. That is all the peace I need my friend. He can read or not read that is his prerogative. One thing I learned is you can't change people's minds but I just wanted to clear my name from the past. Shoot even fish evolve into bigger fish so people can change.


Look i dont care TM. To be honest i myself am not all too comfortable with many things you say here either and i am pretty sure you are still not completely over your lieing habits but i dont care. Its harmless, its not doing me any harm, your lies are not threatening me in any way. Its something you have to deal with, its none of my business. The fact that this little kid got himself worked up about your lies and the fact that those lies are still an issue to this idiot tells me alot about his childish character. Really, this little chaai chi, needs to sit down and listen because he is worse than everything he said to you or anybody else. This is a villager who has started to spam the thread with such a nonsense that i dont even know where to begin with. You can not recognize a clear intention, you can not recognize any substance or motivation as for why this little mofo actually started the whole thing and this is dumb. This is more than just dumb. The guy is dumb as hell and i dont like dumb people. I always try to backtrack to see where everything started and i really cant recognize a clear path in all his barking. I dont know what this dumb fuck wants. He has drifted so many times, into unrelated stuff and issues, then back again to the ravens and even there this dumb fuck is not able to just accept the obvious. Baltimore didnt have a football team after the colts left the city. Fact. Art Modell, being fed up with losing in Cleveland just took his team and brought it to baltimore and called it baltimore ravens. They started to play their games with alot of the same players who played for cleveland browns in cleveland. The only difference was a new city, a new name, new colors. I mean why is such an easy thing which can be looked up everywhere an issue in the first place? This little fuck is just insane. He comes up, starts to get himself involved into an argument with chinaski, gets spanked and goes off line and call it a day. :)
 
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Look i dont care TM. To be honest i myself am not all too comfortable with many things you say here either and i am pretty sure you are still not completely over your lieing habits but i dont care. Its harmless, its not doing me any harm, your lies are not threatening me in any way. Its something you have to deal with, its none of my business. The fact that this little kid got himself worked up about your lies and the fact that those lies are still an issue to this idiot tells me alot about his childish character. Really, this little chaai chi, needs to sit down and listen because he is worse than everything he said to you or anybody else. This is a villager who has started to spam the thread with such a nonsense that i dont even know where to begin with. You can not recognize a clear intention, you can not recognize any substance or motivation as for why this little mofo actually started the whole thing and this is dumb. This is more than just dumb. The guy is dumb as hell and i dont like dumb people. I always try to backtrack to see where everything started and i really cant recognize a clear path in all his barking. I dont know what this dumb fuck wants. He has drifted so many times, into unrelated stuff and issues, then back again to the ravens and even there this dumb fuck is not able to just accept the obvious. Baltimore didnt have a football team after the colts left the city. Fact. Art Modell, being fed up with losing in Cleveland just took his team and brought it to baltimore and called it baltimore ravens. They started to play their games with exactly the same players who played for cleveland browns in cleveland. The only difference was a new city, a new name, new colors. I mean why is such a easy thing which can be looked up everywhere an issue in the first place? This little fuck is just insane. He comes up, starts to get himself involved into an argument with chinaski, gets spanked and goes off line and call it a day. :)
I get what you are saying and honestly I get it however there is no more reason for me to lie because I am happy with who I am and I get what you are saying but whatever the situation is he is entitled to his thoughts and feelings. I realized I can't change people's opinions so I'm just going to stick to the topics that i know.I can't change how others view me all I can do is just look at myself in the mirror and if I am happy with myself, then that is all you need. I will quote something that Cyrus the Great said in English because my Farsi is not as good as yours. He said, 'Never compare yourself to others, COMPARE YOURSELF TO YOUR FORMER SELF." That teaching really hits home with me. As for Maizar, honestly it doesn't change my life one bit I don't know if he is a villager or if his family is a multimillionaire either way it doesn't change my life. He can do his thing and say what he likes I will respond to people about sports, politics or subjects I understand, such as engineering, economics, politics or history and if i don't know a subject very well, I will differ to our older members here who are more knowledgeable. For instance, I am not the most knowledgeable person here about the Islamic Revolution I know the basics but not every detail so if that is the tropic, I'll just read what people have to say.
As for the Ravens they have talent on that roster but just when you think they got their act together, a player will get arrested for doing something dumb. The joke is you want to play the Ravens in week one or week two because a few of their players will be suspended for doing something stupid during the off season.
 

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As for the Ravens they have talent on that roster but just when you think they got their act together, a player will get arrested for doing something dumb. The joke is you want to play the Ravens in week one or week two because a few of their players will be suspended for doing something stupid during the off season.
Well there are a lot of other teams and players who have off field issues. Its football and a lot of football players come from difficult backgrounds and that upbringing and background sometimes catches up to them and lets them get themselves involved in some shit. As example i always thought beast mode lynch would be out of such issues but even in such an age after becoming to one of the best RBs over the last few years, after winning the SB, he gets himself in trouble in a night bar, behaving like an 18 years old gang member of east St. Louis. Your own raiders had alot of players with on and off field issues. The same with steelers and every one else.
 

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. You are admitting that in the midst of a discussion about football you come up with such ridiclulous and unrelated stuff as traveling to iran and nonsense like this.
to aslan too bagh neeste , go back and read about how many times in so many of your posts you brag about knowing everything because you been nearly everywhere in the world. But you got caught in your hypocrisy . " be a strong character and cut all ties" "I always hated those who cursed at the regime but went there to make "business" , buying and selling goods" but then you admit you travel every year to Iran and I am sure you don't go there without buying "goods".



Your team that fucked up excuse of a team called baltimore ravens is basically the original cleveland browns. Period. Art Modell was sick of losing in cleveland so he just took his franchise, brought it down to you toilett lickers and called it baltimore ravens. Period. Now call it whatever you want..relocation or whatever, you mofos didnt have a team until modell moved his cleveland browns and all its players to baltimore and gave it a new name and logo. go jump off the cliff now, baltimore ravens are art modells cleveland browns brought down to baltimore and renamed. Or did you expect him to get his franchise to Baltimore and still call it Cleveland browns you silly mofo
idiot , like I said earlier if you knew about sports in the US you wouldn't type this BS. The Ravens did not keep "all its players" go compare the roster from the Cleveland Browns see that there were many changes including a new coaching staff. A lot of 95 Cleveland players did not join the new expansion team Baltimore Ravens. This guy living halfway across the world seems to think he knows more about the NFL and my teams history lol how pathetic. What do you call the Indianapolis colts? you silly mofo?





As i said heyvvoon: Yes. Chinaski knows it all. Get it in your motherfucking head finally. Between me and a fucked up animal like you there cant be any competition, there is only total domination and your destruction. You illiterate idiot and me...it not even a contest, its not even close you fucked up ghahve chi. Aare haroom zaadeh, aside from persian which you little mofo dont even understand let alone to read and write, i speak german and english and i can get across my point in french and possibly even in italian. So whenever you mofo can speak as good german or french as i do english, then you come back and start barking again.
Never forget heyvoon, man andaaze kolle heykale to faghat mirinam.
 

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to aslan too bagh neeste , go back and read about how many times in so many of your posts you brag about knowing everything because you been nearly everywhere in the world. But you got caught in your hypocrisy . " be a strong character and cut all ties" "I always hated those who cursed at the regime but went there to make "business" , buying and selling goods" but then you admit you travel every year to Iran and I am sure you don't go there without buying "goods".
So you haroom zaadeh are still admitting you didnt have anything to say about football right? Aare tokhme sage bisavaad? :)
But its interesting, you dumb fuck are not even good at changing the subject the right way. Yani enghdar khereft o bisavaadi that you dont even go and atleast read the threads where i talked and criticized making business in Iran to see what i actually said. What a fucked up mofo you are. Yes heyvoon, i went to iran and made business, i brought 1,5 kilo tokhme aaftaab gardoon back home to europe, i bought ye joft kafsh, went to restaurant a few times...i really helped the regime :)

Akhe to cheghadr kos mashangi? To cheghadr kodani aakhe? :)
 

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So you haroom zaadeh are still admitting you didnt have anything to say about football right? Aare tokhme sage bisavaad? :)
But its interesting, you dumb fuck are not even good at changing the subject the right way. Yani enghdar khereft o bisavaadi that you dont even go and atleast read the threads where i talked and criticized making business in Iran to see what i actually said. What a fucked up mofo you are. Yes heyvoon, i went to iran and made business, i brought 1,5 kilo tokhme aaftaab gardoon back home to europe, i bought ye joft kafsh, went to restaurant a few times...i really helped the regime :)

Akhe to cheghadr kos mashangi? To cheghadr kodani aakhe? :)
So are admiting your a hypocrite for visiting a country you consider a "shithole" that we should "cut all ties with ". Mr. Maziar95 wins mr chinaski loses .
 

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Well there are a lot of other teams and players who have off field issues. Its football and a lot of football players come from difficult backgrounds and that upbringing and background sometimes catches up to them and lets them get themselves involved in some shit. As example i always thought beast mode lynch would be out of such issues but even in such an age after becoming to one of the best RBs over the last few years, after winning the SB, he gets himself in trouble in a night bar, behaving like an 18 years old gang member of east St. Louis. Your own raiders had alot of players with on and off field issues. The same with steelers and every one else.
True but the Ravens stick out in my head here are some of the players on Baltimore's team who got arrested over the years. Of course ever team will have a few knuckleheads out of a 50 man roster, someone will do something dumb like smoke weed during the off season(that is really stupid if I got an opportunity to get a kick ass NFL job, I would put down the bong for sure).

1 Ray Rice-assalt
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10467981/ray-rice-baltimore-ravens-arrested-alleged-altercation-woman

2- Lorenzo Taliaferro-destruction of private property and public intoxication
http://www.whogotarrested.com/sports/ravens

3 Deonte Thompson arrested for marijuana.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10504617/deonte-thompson-baltimore-ravens-arrested-marijuana

4-Jah Reid-assalt
http://www.abc2news.com/sports/ravens-player-arrested-for-battery

5-Even their cheerleaders get arrested for doing something dumb Molly Shattuck(too many jokes) giving a 15 year old a blow job( lucky 15 year old but that is statutory rape)
http://www.nzpress.net/312-molly-shattuck-the-ex-ravens-cheerleader-arrested.html

If I post every arrest made by the Ravens I would be here all night.
 

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So are admiting your a hypocrite for visiting a country you consider a "shithole" that we should "cut all ties with ". Mr. Maziar95 wins mr chinaski loses .
Bebin resoondamet be ye khat. Heyvoon, i still have relatives who live in that shithole so i more or less have to visit that toilett every now and then. Just dont go and make business there, dont go and invest, don go and try to make extra money there. Thats exactly what i said and i am saying it to you little bisavaad again. Yani to koon nashoore bisavaad tamaam postaaye mano mikhooni vali na manishoono mifahmi, na ghaader be gereftane asle matlabi.

Look mofo, a dumb fuck like you will always have to sit down and listen and learn. I will make you learn koon nashoor, dont worry :)
 

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True but the Ravens stick out in my head here are some of the players on Baltimore's team who got arrested over the years. Of course ever team will have a few knuckleheads out of a 50 man roster, someone will do something dumb like smoke weed during the off season(that is really stupid if I got an opportunity to get a kick ass NFL job, I would put down the bong for sure).

1 Ray Rice-assalt
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10467981/ray-rice-baltimore-ravens-arrested-alleged-altercation-woman

2- Lorenzo Taliaferro-destruction of private property and public intoxication
http://www.whogotarrested.com/sports/ravens

3 Deonte Thompson arrested for marijuana.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10504617/deonte-thompson-baltimore-ravens-arrested-marijuana

4-Jah Reid-assalt
http://www.abc2news.com/sports/ravens-player-arrested-for-battery

5-Even their cheerleaders get arrested for doing something dumb Molly Shattuck(too many jokes) giving a 15 year old a blow job( lucky 15 year old but that is statutory rape)
http://www.nzpress.net/312-molly-shattuck-the-ex-ravens-cheerleader-arrested.html

If I post every arrest made by the Ravens I would be here all night.
lol. What a fucked up team then. I mean no wonder this little mofo loves them more than his own mama :)
and look this bisavaad was talking about BIG BEN lol
 
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Bebin resoondamet be ye khat. Heyvoon, i still have relatives who live in that shithole so i more or less have to visit that toilett every now and then. Just dont go and make business there, dont go and invest, don go and try to make extra money there. Thats exactly what i said and i am saying it to you little bisavaad again. Yani to koon nashoore bisavaad tamaam postaaye mano mikhooni vali na manishoono mifahmi, na ghaader be gereftane asle matlabi.

Look mofo, a dumb fuck like you will always have to sit down and listen and learn. I will make you learn koon nashoor, dont worry :)
So "cutting all ties" doesn't really mean cutting all ties . lol what a hypocrite.
 

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If you had any sense of football or sports in the US you would know a franchise expansion is not relocating. Relocating is the Indianapolis Colts , relocating will be the raiders if they move to LA . Expansion teams are teams like the Jaguars , Ravens or Tampa Rays in the MLB . If Art Modell relocated to Baltimore then there would be no Cleveland Browns today. I don't know why I am even wasting my time explain these simple things to a old fart like you since your brain is incapable of grasping these simple facts.
Bisavaad, as i said before, whenever you need help regarding the history and background of baltimore ravens, you need to ask me politely, you sit down and listen carefully to what Chinaski has to say. There is no way around it. You are a dumb idiot who cant even distinguish his right from the left hand, so such an illiterate fuck really needs to calm down, shut his mouth and try to learn the ABC of football, specially the ABC of history of his own fucked up football team and how it was put together. So as i said, your team is basically Art Modells cleveland browns, brought down to baltimore to give such sorry excuses of football fans like you something to cheer about. :)

 

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So "cutting all ties" doesn't really mean cutting all ties . lol what a hypocrite.
Yes tokhme sag. Cutting ties doesnt mean you cant go to a restaurant and have a dinner or buy yourself 1 kilo of tokhme aaftaab gardoon. loool...look how far i have already dummed most simple things down to make this little idiot understand and he still doesnt. :)
 

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lol. What a fucked up team then. I mean no wonder this little mofo loves them more than his own mama :)
This is why you want to play the Ravens in week one or week two because the odds are in your favor that more than one player will not be eligible to play. I know Baltimore has some rough areas, just watch the great HBO 5 season series called The Wire but the Raven players don't need to act like Avon Barksdale or Bubbles(you won't get the reference if you haven't watched the show btw one of my favorite series it showed how corrupt the police dept is, how the drug game is played, how politicians get in on the act I highly recommend it) but the players don't need to live like they are in the projects slanging dope. You are millionaires guys act like it. Plus playing in the NFL and representing THE SHIELD IS A PRIVILEGE NOT A RIGHT.
 

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This is why you want to play the Ravens in week one or week two because the odds are in your favor that more than one player will not be eligible to play. I know Baltimore has some rough areas,
I dont think its about the rough areas in baltimore as basically close to every single NFL city has some rough areas maybe except for Green Bay and even there not everything is rosey and shiney. I mean St. Louis, Detroit, NY, Chicago, Oakland, Pittsburgh, Philly ....have alot of rough areas so i think its more like how you lead your franchise and if you are able to act accordingly to either punish players who cause trouble or just sending a clear message that you wouldnt want to have such characters on your team in the first place. So i tend to believe a guy like Belichick along with his staff in Boston leads his team according to different codes of behaviour than the ravens organization.
 

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I dont think its about the rough areas in baltimore as basically close to every single NFL city has some rough areas maybe except for Green Bay and even there not everything is rosey and shiney. I mean St. Louis, Detroit, NY, Chicago, Oakland, Pittsburgh, Philly ....have alot of rough areas so i think its more like how you lead your franchise and if you are able to act accordingly to either punish players who cause trouble or just sending a clear message that you wouldnt want to have such characters on your team in the first place. So i tend to believe a guy like Belichick along with his staff in Boston leads his team according to different codes of behaviour than the ravens organization.
Fair point those cities have rough areas as well, it is bad for kids growing up in those areas that you mentioned like Oakland, Chicago, Baltimore St. Louis. A military saying is, "ATTITUDE REFLECTS LEADERSHIP." You brought up the New England Patraiots so I will use them as an example. Owner Robert Craft and HC Bill Billacheck are no nonsense guys. If you don't fall in ranks and do things THE PATRIOT WAY, your ass will be traded. This makes me think that the problem with the Ravens is with their leadership. There is no such thing as a bad employee only bad managers or leaders and the Ravens have bad leadership. Obviously they don't do much to keep their players in line and that is why they seem to be in the news more than any other team.
Back in the day the Raiders were known as the bad boys. Now there are many things that are wrong with the Raiders organization, starting with the fact that Mark Davis is a fucking idiot and he doesn't have a football background but one thing he does well is there is a zero tolerance policy. They got rid of their trouble makers like Rolando McClain the Raiders could have kept him he was a top 10 draft pick and that was a wasted pic but it sends a message to everyone else. Nobody is exempt you could be a star LB from Alabama but if you are a schmuck, then you are GONE. As long as the Ravens continue to go down the same path, more players will get arrested. The organization needs to do an ABOUT FACE (a 180 turn) and turn things around. If you need to let some people go, so be it.