Yes I remember Ahmadinejad also wanted to have proof of the Jewish holocaust in the WWII. 
If you want to act as the devil's advocate, at least try to stay on facts.
If you want to act as the devil's advocate, at least try to stay on facts.
I don't think similar level of evidence exists for the agenda to use Manoto or IranInt to harm Iran or cause division amongst Iranians. Again I ask you, please provide examples and evidence.
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But wait a minute.
This is exactly what I did with the Nazanin Zaghari case and the debate over IR receiving weapons from outside during the war. Put 2 and 2 together. I even posted links for the latter.
But a few still believed the official IR line.
So who was putting his head in the snow there?
This is exactly what I did with the Nazanin Zaghari case and the debate over IR receiving weapons from outside during the war. Put 2 and 2 together. I even posted links for the latter.
But a few still believed the official IR line.
So who was putting his head in the snow there?
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These are good questions and I don't know. Why would a foreign country spend millions on something like this. I really want to know too and also want to know whether there is a metric for their influence, harm/good they cause.
To be honest, I avoid Manoto and Iran Int news and debates. I only watch some their cultural programmes and happy events. So I am not the best judge anyway.
My original point was about their Norouz show and how they uphold the Iranian traditions by filling the void left by IRIB.
To be honest, I avoid Manoto and Iran Int news and debates. I only watch some their cultural programmes and happy events. So I am not the best judge anyway.
My original point was about their Norouz show and how they uphold the Iranian traditions by filling the void left by IRIB.
So, let me get this straight. Some here think that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is spending money, a lot of it, just to preserve and promote Iranian culture, out of the goodness of their hearts. Yeah, that makes sense.
I know history is a passé thing here. But allow me:
The rulers of this Arabic peninsula have been trying to extinguish Iranian culture for literally 1400 years, ever since they figured their way out of the deserts. They violently suppressed the sporadic resistance that popped out all over Iran. They destroyed centers of learning, imposed their religion and their language in an attempt to wipe out the Persian culture. They succeeded in Levante, North Africa, but failed in Iran. The main remnant of their barbaric culture remains in the religion they imposed by force. A religion that, like the two other "Abrahamic religions", is really an outgrowth of their culture with a misogynistic, hateful, and vengeful god with violent tendencies. The thing y'all and many others hate about IR is its attempt to complete the job, which it has failed at.
And the current rulers of this peninsula, the Al-Saud family, who would be chasing lizards, were it not for an accident of geology, epitomize the hatred of this place for all things Iranian. And y'all think, yeah may be they are doing it out of the goodness of their heart.
You believe that there is a zero chance that the 1 in a million dual nationals who are arrested in Iran may actually be guilty of something, but believe in the benevolence of MBS.
OK then. Carry on.
I know history is a passé thing here. But allow me:
The rulers of this Arabic peninsula have been trying to extinguish Iranian culture for literally 1400 years, ever since they figured their way out of the deserts. They violently suppressed the sporadic resistance that popped out all over Iran. They destroyed centers of learning, imposed their religion and their language in an attempt to wipe out the Persian culture. They succeeded in Levante, North Africa, but failed in Iran. The main remnant of their barbaric culture remains in the religion they imposed by force. A religion that, like the two other "Abrahamic religions", is really an outgrowth of their culture with a misogynistic, hateful, and vengeful god with violent tendencies. The thing y'all and many others hate about IR is its attempt to complete the job, which it has failed at.
And the current rulers of this peninsula, the Al-Saud family, who would be chasing lizards, were it not for an accident of geology, epitomize the hatred of this place for all things Iranian. And y'all think, yeah may be they are doing it out of the goodness of their heart.
You believe that there is a zero chance that the 1 in a million dual nationals who are arrested in Iran may actually be guilty of something, but believe in the benevolence of MBS.
OK then. Carry on.
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So, let me get this straight. Some here think that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is spending money, a lot of it, just to preserve and promote Iranian culture, out of the goodness of their hearts. Yeah, that makes sense.
I know history is a passé thing here. But allow me:
The rulers of this Arabic peninsula have been trying to extinguish Iranian culture for literally 1400 years, ever since they figured their way out of the deserts. They violently suppressed the sporadic resistance that popped out all over Iran. They destroyed centers of learning, imposed their religion and their language in an attempt to wipe out the Persian culture. They succeeded in Levante, North Africa, but failed in Iran. The main remnant of their barbaric culture remains in the religion they imposed by force. A religion that, like the two other "Abrahamic religions", is really an outgrowth of their culture with a misogynistic, hateful, and vengeful god with violent tendencies. The thing y'all and many others hate about IR is its attempt to complete the job, which it has failed at.
And the current rulers of this peninsula, the Al-Saud family, who would be chasing lizards, were it not for an accident of geology, epitomize the hatred of this place for all things Iranian. And y'all think, yeah may be they are doing it out of the goodness of their heart.
You believe that there is a zero chance that the 1 in a million dual nationals who are arrested in Iran may actually be guilty of something, but believe in the benevolence of MBS.
OK then. Carry on.
I know history is a passé thing here. But allow me:
The rulers of this Arabic peninsula have been trying to extinguish Iranian culture for literally 1400 years, ever since they figured their way out of the deserts. They violently suppressed the sporadic resistance that popped out all over Iran. They destroyed centers of learning, imposed their religion and their language in an attempt to wipe out the Persian culture. They succeeded in Levante, North Africa, but failed in Iran. The main remnant of their barbaric culture remains in the religion they imposed by force. A religion that, like the two other "Abrahamic religions", is really an outgrowth of their culture with a misogynistic, hateful, and vengeful god with violent tendencies. The thing y'all and many others hate about IR is its attempt to complete the job, which it has failed at.
And the current rulers of this peninsula, the Al-Saud family, who would be chasing lizards, were it not for an accident of geology, epitomize the hatred of this place for all things Iranian. And y'all think, yeah may be they are doing it out of the goodness of their heart.
You believe that there is a zero chance that the 1 in a million dual nationals who are arrested in Iran may actually be guilty of something, but believe in the benevolence of MBS.
OK then. Carry on.
I just said you don't have any idea how these companies are run or if they are porfitable or not. Zero proof: you are just speculating based on your personal belief.
Because if I really want to destroy a country, I wouldn't put my money on Sally Talk LOL, makes zero sense. I would create a network to give directions to people or at least try to. In fact a channel like Voice of America is more close to what you are saying.
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History may mean nothing to you, but I assure you it has a lotto do with how things ended up where they are now. Next time you complain about the Islamic Republic, think about where that "Islamic" part comes from.
It is funny how you ask for proof but tend to make exaggerated broad claims (for example regarding crime stats in Iran vs the west) without any such proof.
Of course there is no proof on who is funding them, or if they are profitable or not, unless someone has inside information. But here are the facts :
1- No one knows who funds them or even who owns them. THAT should be a big clue. At least we know who owns BBC or VOA or TASS.
2- There is very little chance they are profitable, based on all the other channels that have come and gone. Do I have their income statement? NO. But I have been alive long enough and have seen enough businesses to speculate that they are not profitable.
3- It is a common practice to build a user-base for any service before monetizing it. Most tech companies do that now. May be they will monetize their viewership, but it has been a while and somebody sunk in a lot of money here. Or may be the monetizing occurs when they start pushing their agenda later.
In any case, it does not take a genius to figure out that something does not make sense.
It is funny how you ask for proof but tend to make exaggerated broad claims (for example regarding crime stats in Iran vs the west) without any such proof.
Of course there is no proof on who is funding them, or if they are profitable or not, unless someone has inside information. But here are the facts :
1- No one knows who funds them or even who owns them. THAT should be a big clue. At least we know who owns BBC or VOA or TASS.
2- There is very little chance they are profitable, based on all the other channels that have come and gone. Do I have their income statement? NO. But I have been alive long enough and have seen enough businesses to speculate that they are not profitable.
3- It is a common practice to build a user-base for any service before monetizing it. Most tech companies do that now. May be they will monetize their viewership, but it has been a while and somebody sunk in a lot of money here. Or may be the monetizing occurs when they start pushing their agenda later.
In any case, it does not take a genius to figure out that something does not make sense.
I feel like I am repeating myself, but why do you keep asking for "proof"? proof is needed when an accusation is made NOT when a question is ASKED right? I can ask "Was Einstein a murderer?" Maybe? Maybe not. the moment i say "Einstein IS A murderer" Now I need proof because I am making a conclusion. I think we are getting mixed up here.
I am simply asking a question: What is in it for the Government of Saudi Arabia to fund these channels? Nothing? Everything? An Agenda? No Agenda? I am asking, I am not concluding.
I say it again, in MY OPINION, it is very odd for Saudi to all of a sudden care to provide entertainment for the people of Iran. Maybe there is NO Agenda, Maybe there is? WHO KNOWS, but it is worth asking the question at least no?
MBC Persia I am not sure, but GEM makes a lot of money with contracts from the Turkish/Dubai developer.
Also TV Stations like TAPESH and Shabkhiz do not need that much budget, the ads they have should be enough to cover the cost.(A guess of course).
Again, maybe the Saudi government is really nice and wants to keep the Persian culture going by funding the TV station like IranInt? if so, dameshoon garm, dasteshoon dard nakone!
I am simply asking a question: What is in it for the Government of Saudi Arabia to fund these channels? Nothing? Everything? An Agenda? No Agenda? I am asking, I am not concluding.
I say it again, in MY OPINION, it is very odd for Saudi to all of a sudden care to provide entertainment for the people of Iran. Maybe there is NO Agenda, Maybe there is? WHO KNOWS, but it is worth asking the question at least no?
MBC Persia I am not sure, but GEM makes a lot of money with contracts from the Turkish/Dubai developer.
Also TV Stations like TAPESH and Shabkhiz do not need that much budget, the ads they have should be enough to cover the cost.(A guess of course).
Again, maybe the Saudi government is really nice and wants to keep the Persian culture going by funding the TV station like IranInt? if so, dameshoon garm, dasteshoon dard nakone!
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Yes, isn't it funny how the burden of proof is suddenly on the shoulder of the accused? Whether it's the detainment of dual nationals or the funding of Iranian channels, those who are accused have to prove that the allegations aren't true. If I accuse you of stealing from me, I have to prove it. I can't say to you "prove that you didn't steam from me".
It's incredible really. I know that's how it works in the IR though so maybe it's hard to shake off that mentality.
It's incredible really. I know that's how it works in the IR though so maybe it's hard to shake off that mentality.
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