@ Keyvan Take a look at this documentary . Sven minutes but very scary fact .
https://youtu.be/c_eaceXaDJk
I think we are already fucked
https://youtu.be/c_eaceXaDJk
I think we are already fucked
bro europe is done. fucking finished.
but ... brexit no matter how stupid will help the brits flush some of the turds in the toilet.
France, Germany are done. all fucking US to destabilize the Euro. they keep invading these ape rag head countries and cause people to get dispersed when they are happy sitting in their villages and beating the shit out of their wives everyday.
fucking leave them alone let them stay in the fucking deserts.
but ... brexit no matter how stupid will help the brits flush some of the turds in the toilet.
France, Germany are done. all fucking US to destabilize the Euro. they keep invading these ape rag head countries and cause people to get dispersed when they are happy sitting in their villages and beating the shit out of their wives everyday.
fucking leave them alone let them stay in the fucking deserts.
LOOOOL.... you know by Muslims in that video, they count you too, don't you? and what happens when most of Europe will contain bunch of people like you and me? I guess the world will go under. Very scary! 
I've been living here for 37 years so believe me the clip is about active Muslim communities who produce children like rabbits and live on welfare. They contribute nothing to society.
We have civil minister in cabinet .
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According to whom?!! You and me, yes. A few educated politicians who look at statistics, yes. But the majority of "Svenssons" count us as Muslims! They don't even think about where the civil minister is from! Many times I encounter people (colleagues, friends of friends, neighbors) who start to talk about some foreign dude and when you ask them where he was from, they'd go: I don't know, Iran or Iraq or somewhere in that area. Is there even a difference, they'd say with a smile!
Not many people care where you are from. As long as you have black hair and look middle Eastern, you are a Muslim!
Not many people care where you are from. As long as you have black hair and look middle Eastern, you are a Muslim!
@sly
The issue we are talking here is what Islam and Muslims are turning these western countries to . Not what Swedes or German think of us . We are a part of the this society either the middle Svensson like it or not . We are going to be effected as much as them when these savages become a majority to be able to rewrite the constitution .
Those Swedes who rule Sweden , the elites, they don't see any Islam in us , because there isn't any . What middle svenssons think isn't important at all . They are employees of a lot of Iranians themselves.
But Somalis , Arabs are the ones who can't do without Islam . They are taking over
The issue we are talking here is what Islam and Muslims are turning these western countries to . Not what Swedes or German think of us . We are a part of the this society either the middle Svensson like it or not . We are going to be effected as much as them when these savages become a majority to be able to rewrite the constitution .
Those Swedes who rule Sweden , the elites, they don't see any Islam in us , because there isn't any . What middle svenssons think isn't important at all . They are employees of a lot of Iranians themselves.
But Somalis , Arabs are the ones who can't do without Islam . They are taking over
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i have a simple question for these muslims, arabs, iranians, afghanis, pakis whomever they maybe:
they are already mosques, no pig eating, no alcohol, sharia in the countries where they live. Why move to a Christian/Secular country to receive so much discrimination? remain where the fuck you are.
I have not seen ranting and raving about IR being an ok country with freedoms and shit. Why don't you people (iranian muslims on this forum) go back and live there.
look at the upside, you can actually watch your national team live. It is like me living in Germany.
come on move. now.
sell your shit or rent your shit. get a job in tehran (where there is no discrimination and pig eating) and go.
if your reply is but i want to be a shit-e in sweden or a sunni in France. You fucking can't because Swedish people in IR or French people in Egypt cannot practice being swedish or french so why the fuck should you be allowed to be iranian muslims or egyptian sunnis in Europe.
if you are allowed to go to mosque or put on hijab something is wrong with the fucking government where you are. meaning they have no balls.
they are already mosques, no pig eating, no alcohol, sharia in the countries where they live. Why move to a Christian/Secular country to receive so much discrimination? remain where the fuck you are.
I have not seen ranting and raving about IR being an ok country with freedoms and shit. Why don't you people (iranian muslims on this forum) go back and live there.
look at the upside, you can actually watch your national team live. It is like me living in Germany.
come on move. now.
sell your shit or rent your shit. get a job in tehran (where there is no discrimination and pig eating) and go.
if your reply is but i want to be a shit-e in sweden or a sunni in France. You fucking can't because Swedish people in IR or French people in Egypt cannot practice being swedish or french so why the fuck should you be allowed to be iranian muslims or egyptian sunnis in Europe.
if you are allowed to go to mosque or put on hijab something is wrong with the fucking government where you are. meaning they have no balls.
Totally valid question. I myself also ask the same question when I hear people talk about discrimination in where they live.
However, I know of many folks that have gone back to Iran after living in US for more than 3 decades. In fact, I know of a christian (Iranian/Assyrian) who went back to Iran after living in US for more than 30 years and is very happy with his life style in Iran. Given, he is a US citizen and gets to take exotic vacations every few months. But he was able to land a good job in oil industry and getting paid fairly well after losing all his life savings in US stock market.
I know of another christian who also went back after living in Montreal for over 30 years. At first, he just went for a short visit. He came back after few months and now he is back again doing very well. These are just few examples I am aware of. I am sure there are plenty more.
However, I know of many folks that have gone back to Iran after living in US for more than 3 decades. In fact, I know of a christian (Iranian/Assyrian) who went back to Iran after living in US for more than 30 years and is very happy with his life style in Iran. Given, he is a US citizen and gets to take exotic vacations every few months. But he was able to land a good job in oil industry and getting paid fairly well after losing all his life savings in US stock market.
I know of another christian who also went back after living in Montreal for over 30 years. At first, he just went for a short visit. He came back after few months and now he is back again doing very well. These are just few examples I am aware of. I am sure there are plenty more.
What the the documentary meant was the nature of immigrants coming to Europe is a kind they never experienced before. In seventies were Latin Americans In eighties, Iranian, nineties former Yugoslavia . All of them more or less adjusted themselves where they landed . The ones coming from Muslim part of the world ( mean suni , don't count the shie as real Muslims ) will never accept other ways of living .
Having several wives is quite common among Somali men . They divorce in Swedish and then bring another wife and so on . A Somali man can be father to 10 , 12 kids . Muslim population in west increasing very fast . I dare say there around at least 600000 quite active Muslims here .
Just think what under the cover of democratic system they could legally do here when they start a Islamic political party . Just a fatwa from an imam will do a lot of damages in very short time .
Scary,isn't it ?
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Having several wives is quite common among Somali men . They divorce in Swedish and then bring another wife and so on . A Somali man can be father to 10 , 12 kids . Muslim population in west increasing very fast . I dare say there around at least 600000 quite active Muslims here .
Just think what under the cover of democratic system they could legally do here when they start a Islamic political party . Just a fatwa from an imam will do a lot of damages in very short time .
Scary,isn't it ?
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@sly . I'm afraid you misunderstood the point here .
It says the majority of Muslim immigrants who have come last 15 , 20 years are literary believers of Islam and increasing fast in population . It won't take long time that they will be a political factor which can change the constitution of those countries towards Islamic laws .
I don't see Iranian refugees could be considered as any risk for western societies . Do you ?
What do you think about the problem the clip try to show ? Do you think there is any truth in it ?
It says the majority of Muslim immigrants who have come last 15 , 20 years are literary believers of Islam and increasing fast in population . It won't take long time that they will be a political factor which can change the constitution of those countries towards Islamic laws .
I don't see Iranian refugees could be considered as any risk for western societies . Do you ?
What do you think about the problem the clip try to show ? Do you think there is any truth in it ?
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I absolutely agree that certain group of immigrants (not generalizing) behave less civilized but I think the message of the video (Muslims taking over the western world and making it Islamic) is a bit naive, waaay far-fetched and over-exaggerated because of the westerners' regular, day to day paranoia.
Of course as it comes with any type of immigration, new cultures/civilizations will bring changes in the host society. It's just natural. Until 30 years ago, "halal" food/restaurants didn't exist in Sweden. There were no mosques and no terrorist attacks. But also as immigrants come in, slowly but surely they will be integrated in the society, whether they like it or not. Yes, the Somali guy may bring 10 wives to Sweden and go to the local mosque every Friday but the next generation immigrants will be a bit less extreme. the third generation will be more or less Swedes and so on....
Of course as it comes with any type of immigration, new cultures/civilizations will bring changes in the host society. It's just natural. Until 30 years ago, "halal" food/restaurants didn't exist in Sweden. There were no mosques and no terrorist attacks. But also as immigrants come in, slowly but surely they will be integrated in the society, whether they like it or not. Yes, the Somali guy may bring 10 wives to Sweden and go to the local mosque every Friday but the next generation immigrants will be a bit less extreme. the third generation will be more or less Swedes and so on....
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those are not few examples. those are TWO examples. that is first.
secondly muslims didn't run away from middle east to live in Assyria. that empire has been gone for many centuries. Neither do i know many iranians or arabs or pakistanis that immigrated to live in Armenia. that was second.
and third and lastly, when a rag head can practice wearing a hejab in london and attending mosque and eating halal meat .
a Swede or a scottish person should be able to eat pork, drink beer and wear bikinis in IR, pakistan and camel land. can they ?
do you have example of 'folks' who are doing that ?
sorry if i come across a little harsh but we really need to stick to the point here and not try to muddy the water with peripheral information that, however maybe true, has nothing to do with the discussion.
your examples here, as valid as they might be, have nothing to do with the topic.
secondly muslims didn't run away from middle east to live in Assyria. that empire has been gone for many centuries. Neither do i know many iranians or arabs or pakistanis that immigrated to live in Armenia. that was second.
and third and lastly, when a rag head can practice wearing a hejab in london and attending mosque and eating halal meat .
a Swede or a scottish person should be able to eat pork, drink beer and wear bikinis in IR, pakistan and camel land. can they ?
do you have example of 'folks' who are doing that ?
sorry if i come across a little harsh but we really need to stick to the point here and not try to muddy the water with peripheral information that, however maybe true, has nothing to do with the discussion.
your examples here, as valid as they might be, have nothing to do with the topic.
@ sly and other mates ;
The next generation of Muslims in western countries don't have to become extremists or terrorists to rule . In then name of democracy they will take over by becoming a majority . I think the rules of starting a political party here in Sweden is to register 100 members. Then you are in title to receive financial assistance for running your agenda . When such a party got started then it's too late to stop them from taking over . The clearest example is our country . You gave an akhond a finger they took the whole arm .
The next generation of Muslims in western countries don't have to become extremists or terrorists to rule . In then name of democracy they will take over by becoming a majority . I think the rules of starting a political party here in Sweden is to register 100 members. Then you are in title to receive financial assistance for running your agenda . When such a party got started then it's too late to stop them from taking over . The clearest example is our country . You gave an akhond a finger they took the whole arm .
Those two examples were about 2 non-muslims (Christians). If you read my response a little more carefully, you see that I said I know of many people that have gone back.
These are Assyrian/Iranians. Of course, they will go back to Iran because that's were they were born and raised.
Religious minorities are given more freedom in regards to Alcohol consumption. In fact, if they pull you over and find Alcohol in your car, they will let you go if you are not a muslim. They are also allowed to take Alcohol to their gatherings in their clubs.
No reason to apologize, we are just discussing and exchanging information. As for staying on the topic, I was merely responding to your own post.
These are Assyrian/Iranians. Of course, they will go back to Iran because that's were they were born and raised.
Religious minorities are given more freedom in regards to Alcohol consumption. In fact, if they pull you over and find Alcohol in your car, they will let you go if you are not a muslim. They are also allowed to take Alcohol to their gatherings in their clubs.
No reason to apologize, we are just discussing and exchanging information. As for staying on the topic, I was merely responding to your own post.
interesting about christians in Iran.
here is another story:
http://www.iranpressnews.com/source/207519.htm
here is another story:
http://www.iranpressnews.com/source/207519.htm