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But Iranian majority wants this 
She is living in a country with ISLAMIC laws that she has to obey. The police is just implementing the law of the land. For her to gain the right to wear any PALOON she likes she has to gather enough people to ask for her cause which means if your are not happy with what is going on there, just be brave enough and get enough people with you to stand up and fight for the right of wearing whatever you like. Did'nt Iranian pleople stand up and asked for Islamic republic 28 years ago? they got what they asked for, now instead of sitting outseide saying lengesh kon, go back to Iran and try to change things to your taste if you can and put an end to these 28 years of nagging !!
She is living in a country with ISLAMIC laws that she has to obey. The police is just implementing the law of the land. For her to gain the right to wear any PALOON she likes she has to gather enough people to ask for her cause which means if your are not happy with what is going on there, just be brave enough and get enough people with you to stand up and fight for the right of wearing whatever you like. Did'nt Iranian pleople stand up and asked for Islamic republic 28 years ago? they got what they asked for, now instead of sitting outseide saying lengesh kon, go back to Iran and try to change things to your taste if you can and put an end to these 28 years of nagging !!
R_E_Z_A, if such high percentage of people support the government and hejab, why would government have problem or be scared of a backlash?
Certainly IR has a percentage of their supporters who care about hijab and it needs to show them that they are still power. So, they would probably do about of muscle showing and then disappear back into their caves and use the oil money on their lavish lives. Something that they hide from a percentage of their poor supporters who have the mentality of Talibans.
Many of us hope that IR would realize that no dictatorship government will survive for too long in Iran, even if it means getting replaced by another one. That they would give out freedoms and participate for power just like every other group in Iran, before there is uprising and bloodshed.
Certainly IR has a percentage of their supporters who care about hijab and it needs to show them that they are still power. So, they would probably do about of muscle showing and then disappear back into their caves and use the oil money on their lavish lives. Something that they hide from a percentage of their poor supporters who have the mentality of Talibans.
Many of us hope that IR would realize that no dictatorship government will survive for too long in Iran, even if it means getting replaced by another one. That they would give out freedoms and participate for power just like every other group in Iran, before there is uprising and bloodshed.
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because, i beleive religion is a relationship between a person and god, not a person, the government and god.
and please, it's not very hard to find flaws in the shiasm preached by the IR.
is tobacco really haram? is ghand from russia really haram? i can give you hundreds of examples of flawed theology going all the way back to shah ismail's time.
just read mullah sadra, he was against all this garbage from the beginning
and please, it's not very hard to find flaws in the shiasm preached by the IR.
is tobacco really haram? is ghand from russia really haram? i can give you hundreds of examples of flawed theology going all the way back to shah ismail's time.
just read mullah sadra, he was against all this garbage from the beginning
rugs:
Why the hell should I be banned? I stated my opinion about Islam. I live in the West, not your beloved IR. Where I live I am free to express my opinion like I just did. You have a problem with that? Rewrite democracy.
Shahin:
Where did I say people can't follow any religion they want? People can follow any religion they want as long as they don't force it on others. I agree with you to that extent. Unfortunately that's not the case in Iran.
Why the hell should I be banned? I stated my opinion about Islam. I live in the West, not your beloved IR. Where I live I am free to express my opinion like I just did. You have a problem with that? Rewrite democracy.
Shahin:
Where did I say people can't follow any religion they want? People can follow any religion they want as long as they don't force it on others. I agree with you to that extent. Unfortunately that's not the case in Iran.
-John Stuart Mill
Majority rule, democracy in the minds of most, is nothing but tyranny. In fact it is one of the worst kinds of tyranny.
It is a fact that the majority are dull and not just that, they are jealous of the brilliant few taking comfort in their numbers. If we had perfect majority rule, the world would still insist that the sun rotates around the earth.
No there isn't. It is the same crap. It is only better because it's scope is more limited. It is limited to public schools and government buildings. It is still wrong because government has zero right to take money from people by force to give to schools or build government buildings and then tell the people who have paid for the schools and the buildings how they should dress.
Liberty is that no one has the slightest right what so ever, even if in the 99.999% majority, to harm or forcibly do good for others. No adult soul has ownership or responsiblity for another's soul. This is the one and only religion from God ever. Everything else is idol worship regardless of what you wish to call it.
Majority rule, democracy in the minds of most, is nothing but tyranny. In fact it is one of the worst kinds of tyranny.
It is a fact that the majority are dull and not just that, they are jealous of the brilliant few taking comfort in their numbers. If we had perfect majority rule, the world would still insist that the sun rotates around the earth.
No there isn't. It is the same crap. It is only better because it's scope is more limited. It is limited to public schools and government buildings. It is still wrong because government has zero right to take money from people by force to give to schools or build government buildings and then tell the people who have paid for the schools and the buildings how they should dress.
Liberty is that no one has the slightest right what so ever, even if in the 99.999% majority, to harm or forcibly do good for others. No adult soul has ownership or responsiblity for another's soul. This is the one and only religion from God ever. Everything else is idol worship regardless of what you wish to call it.
You can not limit people's freedom of choice if you have a "Republic" governing system.
Which version of Islam do you prefer more? The one that is sought freely or the one that is shoved down everybody's throat?
Why does a kid who is born to Iranian parents in Iran has to practice Islam without having the option to make his mind?
Also if somebody went out there 20 something years ago and said yes to "Jomhoori Eslami", well that doesnt necessarily mean their kids would have the same opinion either. You are speaking of people putting away their fears and renouncing this type of limitatings with a common voice, well with campaigns and disgusting acts such as this that time will come very soon.
It is very funny of the Islamic regime in Iran to be critical of France for stripping women of their Hejabs while they on the other hand impose the Hejab on unwilling people! They cry fould when Reza Shah did it but when they do the very same thing...then it is a different story!
Which version of Islam do you prefer more? The one that is sought freely or the one that is shoved down everybody's throat?
Why does a kid who is born to Iranian parents in Iran has to practice Islam without having the option to make his mind?
Also if somebody went out there 20 something years ago and said yes to "Jomhoori Eslami", well that doesnt necessarily mean their kids would have the same opinion either. You are speaking of people putting away their fears and renouncing this type of limitatings with a common voice, well with campaigns and disgusting acts such as this that time will come very soon.
It is very funny of the Islamic regime in Iran to be critical of France for stripping women of their Hejabs while they on the other hand impose the Hejab on unwilling people! They cry fould when Reza Shah did it but when they do the very same thing...then it is a different story!
fole panalt jan,
I totally agree with you. And it is exactly for this reason that the French are right to ban scarves in schools for very young girls who are almost certainly under pressure from their parents to conform to Islamic rules. How much free choice did she have in deciding for herself? Even if she wants to wear it, isn't this feeling of 'want' imposed on her from very early age by a very strict moslem household?
I say ban the hejab from schools until girls are at the legal age to be able to decide for themselves.
I totally agree with you. And it is exactly for this reason that the French are right to ban scarves in schools for very young girls who are almost certainly under pressure from their parents to conform to Islamic rules. How much free choice did she have in deciding for herself? Even if she wants to wear it, isn't this feeling of 'want' imposed on her from very early age by a very strict moslem household?
I say ban the hejab from schools until girls are at the legal age to be able to decide for themselves.
Finally a solution for badhijabs. Leave the country.
http://web.peykeiran.com/new/iran/iran_news_body.aspx?ID=39130
http://web.peykeiran.com/new/iran/iran_news_body.aspx?ID=39130
طباطبایی در گفت*وگو با خبرنگار آفتاب تصریح کرد: «کار نماینده مجلس خیلی مهم تر از این است که آقایان برای مد و لباس مردم تصمیم بگیرند.»
عضو فراکسیون اصولگرایان با بیان این که «اسلام دین عطوفت و رأفت است» در این باره خاطرنشان کرد: «در هیچ کجای اسلام نیامده که حجاب مردم چگونه و چه رنگ باشد. فقط دستور آمده که این حجاب باید به چه نحو رعایت شود.»
وی افزود: «روش های ارشادی باید در مورد حجاب به کار گرفته شود وگرنه روش های دیگر نتیجه عکس به جای می گذارد.»
طباطبایی در عین حال،* به کسانی که حاضر نیستند حجاب را رعایت کنند، توصیه کرد که از کشور بیرون روند چون در کشور اسلامی مثل ایران جایی برای آنها نیست.»
عضو فراکسیون اصولگرایان با بیان این که «اسلام دین عطوفت و رأفت است» در این باره خاطرنشان کرد: «در هیچ کجای اسلام نیامده که حجاب مردم چگونه و چه رنگ باشد. فقط دستور آمده که این حجاب باید به چه نحو رعایت شود.»
وی افزود: «روش های ارشادی باید در مورد حجاب به کار گرفته شود وگرنه روش های دیگر نتیجه عکس به جای می گذارد.»
طباطبایی در عین حال،* به کسانی که حاضر نیستند حجاب را رعایت کنند، توصیه کرد که از کشور بیرون روند چون در کشور اسلامی مثل ایران جایی برای آنها نیست.»
No. but it goes hand in hand with the fact that schools are secular institutions and education. That's the law of the land and the French have every right to enforce it.
It's not that the people are banned from wearing the hejab anywhere else in the society. France is a very free country andlet's be careful before criticising it too much.
It's not that the people are banned from wearing the hejab anywhere else in the society. France is a very free country andlet's be careful before criticising it too much.
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